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ISD Serathu Ashk
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:21:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Finally, if anyone has any useful information for us that will help us to improve our news, you are encouraged to send us an email or submit a news lead as previously detailed.
Take a good look at all the news reports that have been released about Delve. Then take a look at what is actually happened in delve over the last 6 weeks.
It doesn't take any kind of deep insider intel to realize that the reporting in the south has been TERRIBLE. Normally I don't care about the reporting, but what we've seen lately makes a mockery of your entire organization.
It is the nature of news that not every reader will be happy with our coverage and should you be unhappy with it we would welcome any substantiated evidence of error that you may have, which you can submit to us via one of the methods detailed above.
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ISD Serathu Ashk
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:23:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
...but i agree, they should post more news...
The Interstellar Correspondents is taking applications from those who wish to become reporters in order to help increase and improve our output.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:28:00 -
[63]
I for one, am outraged that there was not more news items about PuPpETmAsTeRz and FoRceS oF EvIL valiant conquests in fountain
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Killer2
Amarr
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:34:00 -
[64]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
To answer some of the other concerns here, I can assure you that the reporter in question has no connection to the in-game entities that they have written about. Our internal policies have strict bias rules, part of my job is to enforce this and our actions are regularly reviewed by the same team that watches the actions of CCP developers - CCP Internal Affairs. If you feel that we are actually biased in this matter, I encourage you to contact IA with any evidence you have and ask them to investigate.
Finally, if anyone has any useful information for us that will help us to improve our news, you are encouraged to send us an email or submit a news lead as previously detailed.
This made me laugh. Not only is ISD biased but their also quite dellusional.
It does not take a rocket scientist to know that ISD news articles are purely the representation of a biased view. This has been an ongoing issue for quite sometime and it only seems to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Kenzoku have been suffering from constant defeats for the last 6 weeks and no ISD articles were published during this period. They have their first major win in this time period and it's followed by two ISD news articles. Where were the ISD reporters during the initial 6 weeks? Why weren't any articles published about the daily slaughter Kenzoku and their allies received while the two coalitions (north and south) sieged Delve and Querious?
If you want the community to take ISD seriously with the news they publish, please make it as unbiased as practically possible and try to show some consistency with the events that may warrant a news report. |
Shinma Apollo
Caldari
Shut Up And Play
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:42:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Killer2
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
To answer some of the other concerns here, I can assure you that the reporter in question has no connection to the in-game entities that they have written about. Our internal policies have strict bias rules, part of my job is to enforce this and our actions are regularly reviewed by the same team that watches the actions of CCP developers - CCP Internal Affairs. If you feel that we are actually biased in this matter, I encourage you to contact IA with any evidence you have and ask them to investigate.
Finally, if anyone has any useful information for us that will help us to improve our news, you are encouraged to send us an email or submit a news lead as previously detailed.
This made me laugh. Not only is ISD biased but their also quite dellusional.
It does not take a rocket scientist to know that ISD news articles are purely the representation of a biased view. This has been an ongoing issue for quite sometime and it only seems to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Kenzoku have been suffering from constant defeats for the last 6 weeks and no ISD articles were published during this period. They have their first major win in this time period and it's followed by two ISD news articles. Where were the ISD reporters during the initial 6 weeks? Why weren't any articles published about the daily slaughter Kenzoku and their allies received while the two coalitions (north and south) sieged Delve and Querious?
If you want the community to take ISD seriously with the news they publish, please make it as unbiased as practically possible and try to show some consistency with the events that may warrant a news report.
Dear god, did I just publicly agree with you K2? the end is nigh.
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Al'Htaed
Minmatar
Hug Nutz
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:46:00 -
[66]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
It is the nature of news that not every reader will be happy with our coverage and should you be unhappy with it we would welcome any substantiated evidence of error that you may have, which you can submit to us via one of the methods detailed above.
Playing innocent is not going to get you far. You know why anyone would think you're taking sides.
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
...but i agree, they should post more news...
The Interstellar Correspondents is taking applications from those who wish to become reporters in order to help increase and improve our output.
If you're not going to report on 6 weeks worth of complete removal of Kenzoku from Delve then don't report on their undocking from a station.
You can't damage control your way out of this.
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ISD Serathu Ashk
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:55:00 -
[67]
Edited by: ISD Serathu Ashk on 18/03/2009 00:55:39
Originally by: Killer2
This made me laugh. Not only is ISD biased but their also quite dellusional.
It does not take a rocket scientist to know that ISD news articles are purely the representation of a biased view. This has been an ongoing issue for quite sometime and it only seems to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Kenzoku have been suffering from constant defeats for the last 6 weeks and no ISD articles were published during this period. They have their first major win in this time period and it's followed by two ISD news articles. Where were the ISD reporters during the initial 6 weeks? Why weren't any articles published about the daily slaughter Kenzoku and their allies received while the two coalitions (north and south) sieged Delve and Querious?
If you want the community to take ISD seriously with the news they publish, please make it as unbiased as practically possible and try to show some consistency with the events that may warrant a news report.
I can understand your viewpoint however I must point out that correlation does not imply causation.
To explain the reason behind what you've identified, we're volunteers and as such cannot rely on a formal commitment of time when it comes to reporting. We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news. This, coupled with the fact that we're not always told about events that happen (again, we don't have the staffing to know about everything that goes on or check every forum post), makes it very hard to produce a consistent output in terms of number of articles.
It's a situation I'm unhappy with which is why we're taking more reports on and will start prominently recruiting soon (we've got to make sure we have the people to train new volunteers first).
I hope that clearly answers this concern but if not, I'll be happy to explain further.
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the Poet
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:55:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Originally by: Saaya Illirie
Aw Mr. Goonie is sad because ISD didn't make a post to increase his E-Peen size and give him more to gloat about on forums. QQ more nublette.
Can you please inform of who this cOrE ElEMeNt corporation of the BlAckGuArD cOaLiTiOn is.
That BOB arrogance is showing through.
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Etho Demerzel
Gallente
Holy Clan of the Cone
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:02:00 -
[69]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
It is the nature of news that not every reader will be happy with our coverage and should you be unhappy with it we would welcome any substantiated evidence of error that you may have, which you can submit to us via one of the methods detailed above.
This has nothing to do with the subjective concept of happiness. It has to do with statistics. I am still to see a single article from ISD about a conflict where BoB, Kenny or whatever they are called these days had their asses kicked. When you add this to the fact that they failed miserably everytime they decided to start a campaign in the last 2 years, that is quite a coincidence, don't you think?
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Haargoth Agamar
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:04:00 -
[70]
Originally by: the Poet
Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Originally by: Saaya Illirie
Aw Mr. Goonie is sad because ISD didn't make a post to increase his E-Peen size and give him more to gloat about on forums. QQ more nublette.
Can you please inform of who this cOrE ElEMeNt corporation of the BlAckGuArD cOaLiTiOn is.
That BOB arrogance is showing through.
calm down
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Gram Hellfire
Caldari
The Subtle Knife
United Pod Service
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:30:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Al'Htaed
If you're not going to report on 6 weeks worth of complete removal of Kenzoku sovereignty from Delve then don't report on their undocking from a station.
You can't damage control your way out of this.
A month of being camped in a station while allied caps take down 30 towers a day is quite impressive, but even more boring. Pulling out a cap fleet meant that battles could occur, thus making the delve war dynamic and not static. That is defiantly news-worthy. The upcoming weeks of bob being ****ed off because -A- is good and they're terrible should be interesting :) - will -A- stay on bob's side? will the core corps in bob assimilate into -A-? will bob relocate to curse?
Anyways, we got enough "news" from the goons in CAOD during the camp :P
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Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:34:00 -
[72]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Finally, if anyone has any useful information for us that will help us to improve our news, you are encouraged to send us an email or submit a news lead as previously detailed.
Take a good look at all the news reports that have been released about Delve. Then take a look at what is actually happened in delve over the last 6 weeks.
It doesn't take any kind of deep insider intel to realize that the reporting in the south has been TERRIBLE. Normally I don't care about the reporting, but what we've seen lately makes a mockery of your entire organization.
It is the nature of news that not every reader will be happy with our coverage and should you be unhappy with it we would welcome any substantiated evidence of error that you may have, which you can submit to us via one of the methods detailed above.
I think you missed my point. I'm not questioning the truthiness of your news. I am questioning the breadth of your news.
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Morning Mist
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:45:00 -
[73]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
To explain the reason behind what you've identified, we're volunteers and as such cannot rely on a formal commitment of time when it comes to reporting. We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news. This, coupled with the fact that we're not always told about events that happen (again, we don't have the staffing to know about everything that goes on or check every forum post), makes it very hard to produce a consistent output in terms of number of articles.
It's a situation I'm unhappy with which is why we're taking more reports on and will start prominently recruiting soon (we've got to make sure we have the people to train new volunteers first).
I hope that clearly answers this concern but if not, I'll be happy to explain further.
Being understaffed is not a reason for biased reporting.
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ISD Serathu Ashk
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:48:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I think you missed my point. I'm not questioning the truthiness of your news. I am questioning the breadth of your news.
Please see my above answer with regards to staffing issues limiting our breadth of coverage significantly.
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Berious
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:53:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Gram Hellfire
A month of being camped in a station while allied caps take down 30 towers a day is quite impressive, but even more boring.
OK then, how bout a week of epic battles that utterly dwarf the latest report in terms of ships deployed and lost? Or an all or nothing mass migration of the biggest alliance in EVE who abandoned vast tracts of space in the process?
You can't really argue nothing really interesting or unusual has been happening post-disband.
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Shikome Alluin
Gallente
Genco
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.18 02:22:00 -
[76]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I think you missed my point. I'm not questioning the truthiness of your news. I am questioning the breadth of your news.
Please see my above answer with regards to staffing issues limiting our breadth of coverage significantly.
Stop squirming and start earning your ISD tag ffs 
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Shinma Apollo
Caldari
Shut Up And Play
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Posted - 2009.03.18 02:49:00 -
[77]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I think you missed my point. I'm not questioning the truthiness of your news. I am questioning the breadth of your news.
Please see my above answer with regards to staffing issues limiting our breadth of coverage significantly.
I think you're largely missing a point. During Max, you reported 1 battle and claimed 'steady progress on the part of Band of Brothers' yet you failed to report a battle a few days later when a titan was killed. (third titan for one pilot) You somehow then ignore all changes in that campaign until a titan on the Northern coalition side is killed, and go silent about a titan being killed by goonswarm. (Not to mention the titan killed by Pandemic Legion, which was substantial insofar as it was the first sub-cap kill)
You then fail to mention a fairly significant defeat by Kenzoku, which included yet another titan loss, but somehow find the time to write about sov maps changing twice one way, but not the other.
Now, you can claim that Shrike losing titans is barely newsworthy, but by that token, is an alliance undocking anymore so? I think it's time to drop the charade of the 'unbiased reporter' and either add more people to that campaign, since clarity brown can only write about BoB (or triumvirate's) minor success, and somehow miss their major failures, or admit that you're not providing unbiased coverage, and at least let some of the more talented goon/nc/pl writers to provide news items.
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Killer2
Amarr
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.18 02:54:00 -
[78]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
I can understand your viewpoint however I must point out that correlation does not imply causation.
To explain the reason behind what you've identified, we're volunteers and as such cannot rely on a formal commitment of time when it comes to reporting. We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news. This, coupled with the fact that we're not always told about events that happen (again, we don't have the staffing to know about everything that goes on or check every forum post), makes it very hard to produce a consistent output in terms of number of articles.
It's a situation I'm unhappy with which is why we're taking more reports on and will start prominently recruiting soon (we've got to make sure we have the people to train new volunteers first).
I hope that clearly answers this concern but if not, I'll be happy to explain further.
I can completely understand that ISD staff are simply volunteers and are therefore somewhat restricted to time constraints. However, please do not tell me that the excuse to the biased articles published are as a direct result of staffing issues. With that line of argument, you are telling me that it is some shocking coincidence where immediately after GKC forces had their first major win in weeks, that suddenly the staffing issues for ISD were resolved and you were able to publish a news article?
This isn't something that has just popped up overnight. The biased opinions and reports coming from ISD has been an ongoing problem, as I have highlighted in my previous post. You have had ample time to find new (impartial) reporters who are capable of presenting both sides of an argument. Your feature articles about Kenzoku or Band of Brothers have only ever represented their successes and perhaps only briefly mentioning their failures.
Claiming that ISD isn't able to know everything that's going on in Eve is not relevant in this scenario. We are not talking about some rediculous fight between two fifty-man corporations. This is an ongoing conflict between thousands of players who make up more than 50% of CCP's player base. If ISD staff live under a rock, perhaps I can understand not knowing about the conflict. Are you also telling me that ISD were aware of a breakout of GKC forces from PR- after being camped in for weeks on end, but you were unaware of the amount of deathstars and baby super-capitals that were destroyed in Delve by coalition forces?
Please stop trying to scratch at the surface in an attempt to find excuses for the biased view on ISD news reports. I am but one voice in this community, however I know for a fact that I am not the only one who feels this way. Perhaps it is time that ISD seriously reflects how articles are published and what effect they have on the eve community. I pray that you come to realize the mistakes ISD have consistently made spanning at least two years, before it is too late and the majority of the eve community simply ignores the articles you publish, which I am already beginning to do.
Respectfully,
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Maj'k Lootar
Caldari
Trinity Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.18 03:28:00 -
[79]
look how pubbie you have become.
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Of Montreal
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.18 03:53:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Killer2
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
I can understand your viewpoint however I must point out that correlation does not imply causation.
To explain the reason behind what you've identified, we're volunteers and as such cannot rely on a formal commitment of time when it comes to reporting. We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news. This, coupled with the fact that we're not always told about events that happen (again, we don't have the staffing to know about everything that goes on or check every forum post), makes it very hard to produce a consistent output in terms of number of articles.
It's a situation I'm unhappy with which is why we're taking more reports on and will start prominently recruiting soon (we've got to make sure we have the people to train new volunteers first).
I hope that clearly answers this concern but if not, I'll be happy to explain further.
I can completely understand that ISD staff are simply volunteers and are therefore somewhat restricted to time constraints. However, please do not tell me that the excuse to the biased articles published are as a direct result of staffing issues. With that line of argument, you are telling me that it is some shocking coincidence where immediately after GKC forces had their first major win in weeks, that suddenly the staffing issues for ISD were resolved and you were able to publish a news article?
This isn't something that has just popped up overnight. The biased opinions and reports coming from ISD has been an ongoing problem, as I have highlighted in my previous post. You have had ample time to find new (impartial) reporters who are capable of presenting both sides of an argument. Your feature articles about Kenzoku or Band of Brothers have only ever represented their successes and perhaps only briefly mentioning their failures.
Claiming that ISD isn't able to know everything that's going on in Eve is not relevant in this scenario. We are not talking about some rediculous fight between two fifty-man corporations. This is an ongoing conflict between thousands of players who make up more than 50% of CCP's player base. If ISD staff live under a rock, perhaps I can understand not knowing about the conflict. Are you also telling me that ISD were aware of a breakout of GKC forces from PR- after being camped in for weeks on end, but you were unaware of the amount of deathstars and baby super-capitals that were destroyed in Delve by coalition forces?
Please stop trying to scratch at the surface in an attempt to find excuses for the biased view on ISD news reports. I am but one voice in this community, however I know for a fact that I am not the only one who feels this way. Perhaps it is time that ISD seriously reflects how articles are published and what effect they have on the eve community. I pray that you come to realize the mistakes ISD have consistently made spanning at least two years, before it is too late and the majority of the eve community simply ignores the articles you publish, which I am already beginning to do.
Respectfully,
Killer2.
Internet news articles about internet spaceships is serious business. Seems this is more Ken hax to me. Could shift the balance of power in their favor. I also think that the Gallente and Amarr get WAY to much attention in these articles, is there indeed a bias in the media towards us gallente and the Amarr?
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Tobruk
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 04:07:00 -
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Usually a lack of objectivity isn't that big of a deal. however, ISD has a complete monopoly of "official" eve news.
Thus, your inability to report in an unbiased manner really leaves only a couple of options. One; stop doing reports on the conflict. Like any good arbiter of fairness you ought to know best when to recuse yourself. Two; give up your monopoly on news and let other eve news organizations have loggin space/ time or compete in some other way (multiple choices on the concord board).
Its a shame that the players have to police ISD, but after T20 (and the countless other inconsistencies) the trust in CCP and its subsidiaries will never be there again. Thus, its best to leave it to the players and let "fact" seekers find some truth in the middle.
You can blame T20 (i do) but I think its time for ISD to hang up their hat.
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SK Rooster
Gallente
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.03.18 04:09:00 -
[82]
wow there are a lot of tears in this thread. ISD whatever his name is has made is painfully simple:
1. if you think something is not accurate, dont whine about it on forums, report it to proper people
2. if you think important events are not being reported, step and and apply for the ISD yourself then you can help do the reporting
they are a VOLUNTEER force so you cannot expect them to put out a story for everything, and if you want your stories out there maybe write one yourself and submit it to them
PS cry more goons, PL and NC
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Challic
Minmatar
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.18 04:28:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Challic on 18/03/2009 04:30:25
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I think you missed my point. I'm not questioning the truthiness of your news. I am questioning the breadth of your news.
Please see my above answer with regards to staffing issues limiting our breadth of coverage significantly.
So these "staffing issues" that you speak of...does it include the intensive and extremely time consuming task of "open CAOD --> click on sov map --> OH **** SON GOONSWARM TOOK OVER DELVE!"
They even made the color yellow to please the eyeballs....I'm just saying, it took me 64 seconds (I had to get a beer so the time is not exact)Let me guess...you must be an AIG employee in the R.L.
GO TEAM KENNY...er I mean GO TEAM ISD! \o/
Crawl back in your cave bud...your damage control skills are weak. Just fire the clown who keeps feeding you those crap articles and get some real reporters. If I want spin I'll watch Fox news.
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Jonis Sinmaker
Amarr
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 05:12:00 -
[84]
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Semper Fi,
Jonis Sinmaker
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 05:56:00 -
[85]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: thelung187
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
If you disagree with what is written or have a news item you'd like Interstellar Correspondents to follow up on, you can always get in touch with them at [email protected] or via the link on the forums.
Yes, because they I'm sure they'd respond to any player inquiry with a hand-written (non-form letter) personalized response. 
Hi, I'm Serathu, the head of the Interstellar Correspondents.
I'm just going to quote this ownage.
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Jamin Berry
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 05:56:00 -
[86]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news.
Seems fairly logical to me. KenZoku and friends are losing, the pilots become unavailable due to "illnesses and absences," no articles are written. When KenZoku and friends decide to start playing Eve again, they find themselves with more time to write articles.
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Mo adib
Amarr
Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.18 06:03:00 -
[87]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Edited by: ISD Serathu Ashk on 18/03/2009 00:55:39
Originally by: Killer2
This made me laugh. Not only is ISD biased but their also quite dellusional.
It does not take a rocket scientist to know that ISD news articles are purely the representation of a biased view. This has been an ongoing issue for quite sometime and it only seems to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Kenzoku have been suffering from constant defeats for the last 6 weeks and no ISD articles were published during this period. They have their first major win in this time period and it's followed by two ISD news articles. Where were the ISD reporters during the initial 6 weeks? Why weren't any articles published about the daily slaughter Kenzoku and their allies received while the two coalitions (north and south) sieged Delve and Querious?
If you want the community to take ISD seriously with the news they publish, please make it as unbiased as practically possible and try to show some consistency with the events that may warrant a news report.
I can understand your viewpoint however I must point out that correlation does not imply causation.
To explain the reason behind what you've identified, we're volunteers and as such cannot rely on a formal commitment of time when it comes to reporting. We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news. This, coupled with the fact that we're not always told about events that happen (again, we don't have the staffing to know about everything that goes on or check every forum post), makes it very hard to produce a consistent output in terms of number of articles.
It's a situation I'm unhappy with which is why we're taking more reports on and will start prominently recruiting soon (we've got to make sure we have the people to train new volunteers first).
I hope that clearly answers this concern but if not, I'll be happy to explain further.
The base problem with this response is that literally spending 5 minutes per week browsing 1 or 2 threads on scrapheap or on caod or even both if you can spare the 10 minutes would give an infinitely more complete picture of what is going on in the eve universe then whatever method you actually use now. Granted the way you provide an out for yourselves it is at the limits of but within believable possibility that the only people contacting you with news articles are from either kenzoku or their friends, however this is a slim to none kind of deal.
The real issue here is that ISD saw fit to report on nothing for more then a month and then only decides to come back and report on the one victory a side has had in that month + period, and also that this is not a rare thin but historically is quite common. I am sorry to say but if you want to be a news service you are going to have to do a little research yourselves. We have a different name for reporting services that only print out what they are given, they are called propaganda machines and to be honest no propaganda machine should be directly assosciated with CCP in any way shape or form.
If you lack the resources to pull something off that is fine dont do it, but don't print out incredibly biased statements with no research on a somewhat regular basis, that is a far worse crime then doing nothing at all. Reallistically why would anyone interested in reporting what is actually going on in eve be interested in joining an outfit that is for all outward appearences just a propaganda tool.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 06:45:00 -
[88]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I think you missed my point. I'm not questioning the truthiness of your news. I am questioning the breadth of your news.
Please see my above answer with regards to staffing issues limiting our breadth of coverage significantly.
Welp until I can find an archive of alliance news I will stick with vague references that point to extreme ISD bias.
Back in 07 when shrike lost his titan and the BoB offensive crumbled, Goonswarm subsequently took 4 regions from BoB with nary a news article, as we pushed into delve there was a news article painting BoB in the light of valiant defenders that hadn't just lost most of their space and left a large chunk of their pets to get slaughtered. (Pets that paid them billions in rent)
There wasn't a news article for even one of the dozens of station captures or hundreds upon hundreds of pos we killed or when we pushed into delve and took qy6 and started pushing further. The very day after BoB retook qy6 there was a news article telling the "epic tale" of how they triumphed etc etc.
Sorry but if you really want to try this not biased thing you should go with a better defense than "We can not cover every story"
In delve II we killed nearly half a thousand pos in a few short weeks as we camped one of the most feared entities in the game into an NPC station for a ****ing month but it wasn't worth a news article until they broke out AFTER we took all of delve? How do you seriously justify that? The number of ironic happenings in those few weeks is so high it would make any real journalist wet himself. ISD chose to sit idly by until their Kenzoku heroes broke out(Which they could have done for weeks if they simply logged in and undocked)
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EdFromHumanResources
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Posted - 2009.03.18 06:47:00 -
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The fact that ISD doesn't seem to understand why 99% of the Eve playerbase just rolls its eyes when you claim to be unbiased blows my ****ing mind.
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Everyone hates goonswarm for one reason or another. ... And they promote ***gotism -Zurrar
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EdFromHumanResources
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Posted - 2009.03.18 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I think you missed my point. I'm not questioning the truthiness of your news. I am questioning the breadth of your news.
Please see my above answer with regards to staffing issues limiting our breadth of coverage significantly.
You really trying to say you didn't have the staff to do one article IN AN ENTIRE MONTH?!
Every one of you could write a sentence over the span of a week and it would make an article. Legit excuses are fine but stop outright lying to us.
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