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Katsura Kotonoha
Caldari Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 06:58:00 -
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The reasons are very simple. The good news is helping their recruitment. If ISD were to publish that Kenny is losing, then their recruitment pool dries up. To prevent this, Kenny is trying to control ISD and have them publish stories which put them in as best of light as possible.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 07:07:00 -
[92]
Seriously ISD dude these damage control vague as hell responses have to stop. You're just digging a deeper hole for yourself. Last entity I remember doing that was Aurora. Good times.
:) ------------------------------------------------- Everyone hates goonswarm for one reason or another. ... And they promote ***gotism -Zurrar
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CL0VERFIELD
Minmatar Carley Group
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Posted - 2009.03.18 07:16:00 -
[93]
Haargoth, Mittani & thelung187 by planing new drama bomb on CAOD
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Lunas Feelgood
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 07:18:00 -
[94]
The last 2-3 years of ISD "news" articles has been a complet one-sided propaganda show.. If the head of the ISD cant see this. Then either he is very bad at his job or he just dont give a ****..
In my honest opinion ISD has been infiltreted by bob alts and ISD are being used unintentional to provide propaganda and thats a shame really..
Atm ISD make FOX news look good..
Originally by: Jade Constantine You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history
Originally by: BOB
"I played EVE for 5 years and all I got left is crappy forum alts"..
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Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.18 08:03:00 -
[95]
ISD News, Fair and Balanced.
How ironic is it that when I went to foxnews website to make sure Fair and Balanced was their saying that there is an eve add on the front page :p
might be targeted advertising but still amusing none the less
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 08:05:00 -
[96]
bfm are you drunk ---
Nothing is more discomforting than the discovery of our own inadequacies - Carl Jung |
Liranan
Gallente M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2009.03.18 08:21:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Liranan on 18/03/2009 08:22:02
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk It is the nature of news that not every reader will be happy with our coverage and should you be unhappy with it we would welcome any substantiated evidence of error that you may have, which you can submit to us via one of the methods detailed above.
Why do you guys rise to the filth spewed out by the Goons? It really is a waste of time arguing with them as this entire thread was summarised in the second post. Farjung is my God
You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link. |
Totally Slick
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 08:22:00 -
[98]
The fact that ISD require the players to spoon feed them information when it comes to reporting in 0.0 is pretty funny given that they are supposed to be reporters. |
Das Panzer
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.03.18 08:59:00 -
[99]
This thread is great
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Kaaii
Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.03.18 09:09:00 -
[100]
Its just leveling the playing field, I mean look at all the james 315, mittens, and countless goonspam circle jerk posts we have to wade through.
I for one, welcome our new ISD allies...
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Kanoubi
Amarr Enseki
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Posted - 2009.03.18 09:10:00 -
[101]
Mummy Goony !!! .. that bad ISD man stole my lollipop .
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.18 09:49:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/03/2009 09:49:52
As a neutral observer, I happen to think that the Delve stories over the last few weeks have all been pretty balanced.
As someone who has been interviewed by ISD reporters a few times over the years, I'd also like to say that in general the gist of what I've said has been well represented in the final article.
The secret to getting more coverage of what you're up to in the news is to let them know. If your enemy is getting lots of coverage, it's not exactly rocket science to send ISD some information of your own or getting them to interview you to find out your opinion on things.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.18 09:56:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
This has nothing to do with the subjective concept of happiness. It has to do with statistics. I am still to see a single article from ISD about a conflict where BoB, Kenny or whatever they are called these days had their asses kicked.
It took me thirty seconds to find this
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Zerakix
Minmatar LEAP Corp Arkai Confederation
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Posted - 2009.03.18 10:00:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Zerakix on 18/03/2009 10:01:04
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
To explain the reason behind what you've identified, we're volunteers and as such cannot rely on a formal commitment of time when it comes to reporting. We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news. This, coupled with the fact that we're not always told about events that happen (again, we don't have the staffing to know about everything that goes on or check every forum post), makes it very hard to produce a consistent output in terms of number of articles.
My take is they're limited on time and staff and there was to much goon spam to dig through to find out whats really going on and link to which makes sense give the ass load of posts the goons did in a day which the majority of was silly stuff one couldn't quote or bother linking as news.
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Cal Hydar
Caldari DAB PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.18 10:24:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
This has nothing to do with the subjective concept of happiness. It has to do with statistics. I am still to see a single article from ISD about a conflict where BoB, Kenny or whatever they are called these days had their asses kicked.
It took me thirty seconds to find this
Shhhh... Don't point this out to those complaining. -------- sig here |
Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.18 10:25:00 -
[106]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: thelung187
Originally by: CCP Mitnal If you disagree with what is written or have a news item you'd like Interstellar Correspondents to follow up on, you can always get in touch with them at [email protected] or via the link on the forums.
Yes, because they I'm sure they'd respond to any player inquiry with a hand-written (non-form letter) personalized response.
Hi, I'm Serathu, the head of the Interstellar Correspondents.
We respond to all email correspondence, where appropriate, and try to respond to submissions from the website where possible.
To answer some of the other concerns here, I can assure you that the reporter in question has no connection to the in-game entities that they have written about. Our internal policies have strict bias rules, part of my job is to enforce this and our actions are regularly reviewed by the same team that watches the actions of CCP developers - CCP Internal Affairs. If you feel that we are actually biased in this matter, I encourage you to contact IA with any evidence you have and ask them to investigate.
Finally, if anyone has any useful information for us that will help us to improve our news, you are encouraged to send us an email or submit a news lead as previously detailed.
The worst thing you did was to answer the vocals about the news don¦t give them any importance because i think you are doing fine.Even when the north reports were biased i didnt gave a crap because to the other eve players that arent in 0.0 politics it brings to them content and that to me is the biggest achivemeant.
If people didn¦t like the article well aplly to ISD and try to make your own ....Or you can NOT read the article ,F**** drama queens over here.
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Totally Slick
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 10:50:00 -
[107]
yeah who cares about the neutrality of CCP or their in-game news department
just mind your own business!!! move along!! nothing going on here!! no hands were caught in the cookie jar!!
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Spiffy Sunkist
Gallente Malevolent Evolution The Church.
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Posted - 2009.03.18 10:59:00 -
[108]
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources The fact that ISD doesn't seem to understand why 99% of the Eve playerbase just rolls its eyes when you claim to be unbiased blows my ****ing mind.
Hmmm. Coming from a Goon that's a statement.
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Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.18 11:07:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Totally Slick yeah who cares about the neutrality of CCP or their in-game news department
just mind your own business!!! move along!! nothing going on here!! no hands were caught in the cookie jar!!
No they just shouldn't get preoccupied from some comments off 0.0 power blocks say about their reports ,it stinks of propaganda .
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Misanth
Amarr RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2009.03.18 11:15:00 -
[110]
Biased or not (yah I too been wondering what rock they live under..), the log in screen would've been alot more dull without their posts.
Like CAOD without drama or battlereports. It'd just be 'watered out'.
Who cares what the content in their post is, just take is as some RP-ramble like some of the CCP posts. Those involved know wth is going on anyway. It's better that ISD post is there than not. Unlike Fox who actually has people believing that crap they're spewing, and that's real ****, not some internet spaceweb roflmayong.
There's alot more disturing things to put some energy on 'fixing' than this, and either case; biased news is better than no news. -
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Bagdon
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 11:50:00 -
[111]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
I hope that clearly answers this concern but if not, I'll be happy to explain further.
Why, hello there Mr. ISD Rupert Murdoch. I, for one, welcome the fair and balanced reporting and look forward to future articles where you report and we decide. After all, ISD is the most powerful name in news.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.18 11:58:00 -
[112]
The ISD news on the Delve conflict has been pretty good I'd say. On the whole I think the news team have been doing a decent job in recent times on reporting a range of conflicts and happenings across the Eve universe and while obviously nobody is going to be completely happy with the content on each article the reality is that all news is good news for the purposes of getting the participants names and identity out there in the public domain.
Of course ISD is going to be dependent on players submitting leads though - its ridiculous to believe it can work in any other way, you can't expect the news team to have full time jobs inbedded in particular alliances and coalitions and create this stuff on spec and if it was ever discovered this was going on then it would create its own righteous scandal of indignation from everyone else.
Ultimately I think the goons in this threat need to step back and realize that there is a big difference between the kind of CAOD spamming "domination" they have been shooting for over the past months and the process of submitting interesting and valuable news leads for ISD to follow-up and research for the in-game login news.
Sure a CAOD front page full of memes and "we pwned j00 11111!" plays well for goon alliance membership and private forums but it does absolutely nothing to inform or entertain the wider eve player base and hence is pretty worthless as a basis for independent news articles. I find it very ironic that the goons in this thread are advising ISD to read SHC to find out whats happening in Delve because their own alliance have effectively made CAOD worthless through their own repetitive spamming - talk about an admission of guilt.
Reality is that you goons are going to have to evolve out of your own niche posting standards and present accounts of the war that appeal to "pubbies" if you expect to be taken seriously and given the general air time you seem to believe you deserve.
Other than that. Carry on with what you're doing ISD news - from a player uninvolved with the Delve conflict its been an informative and interesting sequence of articles and I do appreciate the RP spin you've placed on an often bland and unattractively metagamy sequence of game mechanic ploys.
Well done.
ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD |
Mr Rive
Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:04:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Killer2
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk I can understand your viewpoint however I must point out that correlation does not imply causation.
To explain the reason behind what you've identified, we're volunteers and as such cannot rely on a formal commitment of time when it comes to reporting. We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news. This, coupled with the fact that we're not always told about events that happen (again, we don't have the staffing to know about everything that goes on or check every forum post), makes it very hard to produce a consistent output in terms of number of articles.
It's a situation I'm unhappy with which is why we're taking more reports on and will start prominently recruiting soon (we've got to make sure we have the people to train new volunteers first).
I hope that clearly answers this concern but if not, I'll be happy to explain further.
I can completely understand that ISD staff are simply volunteers and are therefore somewhat restricted to time constraints. However, please do not tell me that the excuse to the biased articles published are as a direct result of staffing issues. With that line of argument, you are telling me that it is some shocking coincidence where immediately after GKC forces had their first major win in weeks, that suddenly the staffing issues for ISD were resolved and you were able to publish a news article?
This isn't something that has just popped up overnight. The biased opinions and reports coming from ISD has been an ongoing problem, as I have highlighted in my previous post. You have had ample time to find new (impartial) reporters who are capable of presenting both sides of an argument. Your feature articles about Kenzoku or Band of Brothers have only ever represented their successes and perhaps only briefly mentioning their failures.
Claiming that ISD isn't able to know everything that's going on in Eve is not relevant in this scenario. We are not talking about some rediculous fight between two fifty-man corporations. This is an ongoing conflict between thousands of players who make up more than 50% of CCP's player base. If ISD staff live under a rock, perhaps I can understand not knowing about the conflict. Are you also telling me that ISD were aware of a breakout of GKC forces from PR- after being camped in for weeks on end, but you were unaware of the amount of deathstars and baby super-capitals that were destroyed in Delve by coalition forces?
Please stop trying to scratch at the surface in an attempt to find excuses for the biased view on ISD news reports. I am but one voice in this community, however I know for a fact that I am not the only one who feels this way. Perhaps it is time that ISD seriously reflects how articles are published and what effect they have on the eve community. I pray that you come to realize the mistakes ISD have consistently made spanning at least two years, before it is too late and the majority of the eve community simply ignores the articles you publish, which I am already beginning to do.
Respectfully, Killer2.
im just gonna quote his so i dont have the spend time writing a similar yet less well shaped opinion
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Blazde
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:09:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Funny change from the pretty obvious pro-NC crap that was spouted from ISD when we were up north. :)
I'm not totally sure but since you're a smart guy Waagaa I'll assume this comment is genuine sarcasm just dressed up as propoganda for anyone not concentrating? And if even Ken leaders are pointing out ISD is biased then it's undeniable there's a problem.
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk It is the nature of news that not every reader will be happy with our coverage and should you be unhappy with it we would welcome any substantiated evidence of error that you may have
The article (mentioned by others above) about BoB's capital defeats up north was this one: Titan And Two Motherships Downed In E-OGL4
It's one of the tiniest alliance articles ever so I'll even post it in it's entirety:
Quote: Northern Coalition and Greater BoB Community forces met in battle on the 26th and 27th of this month in the E-OGL4 star system. Over 1,000 pilots were present during the exchanges and hundreds of ships were lost, including two GBC motherships and a GBC titan.
Despite some earlier setbacks, it appears that The GBC ôMax Damageö offensive has been steadily advancing into the Tribute region via the Taisy/M-OEE8/E-OGL4 corridor. The NC has been successfully holding a defensive position in the next system of that corridor, 15W-GC.
On the night of the 26th, ShrikeÆs Avatar class titan was discovered and destroyed in E-OGL4 by a large Northern Coalition force. The ensuing rally by GBC forces and further reinforcement of NC forces combined into a large scale battle that claimed over 100 dreadnoughts, 20+ carriers, two motherships, and hundreds of battleships and support ships.
The GBC withdrew from the battlefield during both of the large scale fights on the 26th and 27th. Although the GBC surrendered the battlefields to NC salvagers, they still maintain a tight grip on the system.
This is pretty much what I'd expect a BoB leader to write if you put a gun to his head and absolutely forced him to report about the biggest capital defeats his alliance had ever suffered. It doesn't even mention Morsus Mihi (this is pretty much standard in articles about wars we're involved in so we're used to it - but c'mon this was the invasion of our tiny insignificant home). Read the title and you have no idea who lost the supercaps. For once BoB isn't mentioned much either, this could have been Skunk-Works losing a titan (no offence to 'em ) to the casual reader who doesn't know Shrike is actually the figurehead of the second the biggest alliance in 0.0, his ship the flagship of an entire coalition.
I could go on, the whole article is laced with bias. The "steadily advancing into Tribute" line drew the most laughs.
Inaccuracies are expected, and it's completely understandable that you lack manpower but honestly you just shouldn't have even bothered posting this article because it undermines all your other reporting.
There was one reasonably decent article about BoB's earlier losses during MAX and it serves very well to illustrate my next point. Anyone who remembers when the ISD reporters were formed will remember we were promised that bias would be avoided by contacting all parties and letting them have their say. Here's the article: Max Damage Minimized In Deklein
And here's the balanced say from all parties: ... |
Blazde
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:10:00 -
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Quote: One anonymous IRON pilot had this to say about the 'Maximum Damage' operation, "It doesn't seem to have been very successful for BoB..."
Krok elite of Red Alliance shared a similar view: "Operation 'MAXimum Damage' changed to 'MAXimum PODS going home'"
SpaceSavage, a member of Executive Outcomes (a member of the Greater BoB Coalition) had a different opinion: "If IRON believes they've stopped MAX, they are mistaken. The thing is with this sort of campaign is that you can't really stop it. With logistics being so easy, with the industrial strength, the only thing that will stop MAX is if BoB/GBC say stop. The most dangerous thing in [space] is a roaming entity, a fleet that has no specific goals other than to level part of the map, so far we've taken out fleets, taken high value moons, killed defenders and then killed attackers. MAX is designed to inflict maximum damage, thus far, it's happening. I think time will tell how efficient the campaign will be. I'm looking forward to many fights ahead; I was part of the group of 400 capitals that moved up here, a sight to behold, now all that's left is for someone to challenge that fleet."
This is a pretty common way to end any article that might otherwised put BoB in a bad light. Here's another gem from an article packed with BoB and Tri achievements and lots of Tri quotes ( Vale Of The Silent Conflict Grows ):
Quote: No representative of PURE. or the rest of the Northern Coalition could be contacted for comment prior to publication of this article, but we hope to have a Northern Coalition point of view for you in our next article!
I can't speak for other NC alliances but you made no attempt to contact RAWR despite us being right next-door with the Vale focused NC forces staging in our territory and despite us losing 3 motherships and 'activating a doomsday weapon' in your article. (The later was actually very newsworthy if you'd bothered to quiz us about it, but not at all flattering for us so we weren't exactly going to go out of our way to notify you.) For future reference myself, Orree, Killer2 are all good RAWR people to talk to for press stuff or failing that any of our diplos (listed on our wiki.eveonline.com page) will find you someone to talk to.
I'm not actually all that bothered about reading ISD news on 0.0 conflicts myself, and I suspect the same goes for a lot of 0.0 players. We get our news through more direct sources. What I do enjoy are those little stories about some empire corp I've never heard of being the first to do something random it'd never occurred to anyone else to do (or whatever), because it reminds me about the depth EVE has and I know it gives the players involved a lot of satisfaction to have all of EVE looking in on their world for a moment despite not being involved in EVE's 'endgame'. ISD correspondents do that stuff well. But I do think it's important to show off EVE's endgame on the front page news for new players (or potential players) because it's easy to play EVE for months and still not get what the fuss is about. In that sense ISD news succeeds. It doesn't matter it's biased, it still gives a flavour of 0.0. But if you do care about impartial reporting you should know that the majority of 0.0 considers you biased.
I don't buy that you're packed with BoB alts, my hunch is you've fallen for the BoB propoganda that they're somehow responsible for 'creating' all the 0.0 content and you thus have your sensors set artificially high for anything they do. Fair play to BoB (Ken), they consider getting news reports on their adventures to be very important and they do it well (up to and including the NY Times article). Maybe it's just another aspect of this great sandbox that they're able to play the official news agency like a tool, but you should know it's happening at the least.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:11:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 18/03/2009 12:12:38
Originally by: Mr Rive
Originally by: Killer2
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk I can understand your viewpoint however I must point out that correlation does not imply causation.
To explain the reason behind what you've identified, we're volunteers and as such cannot rely on a formal commitment of time when it comes to reporting. We're somewhat understaffed at the moment and given some recent illnesses and absences, we've not necessarily had the experience and the volunteer time to commit to writing such news. This, coupled with the fact that we're not always told about events that happen (again, we don't have the staffing to know about everything that goes on or check every forum post), makes it very hard to produce a consistent output in terms of number of articles.
It's a situation I'm unhappy with which is why we're taking more reports on and will start prominently recruiting soon (we've got to make sure we have the people to train new volunteers first).
I hope that clearly answers this concern but if not, I'll be happy to explain further.
I can completely understand that ISD staff are simply volunteers and are therefore somewhat restricted to time constraints. However, please do not tell me that the excuse to the biased articles published are as a direct result of staffing issues. With that line of argument, you are telling me that it is some shocking coincidence where immediately after GKC forces had their first major win in weeks, that suddenly the staffing issues for ISD were resolved and you were able to publish a news article?
This isn't something that has just popped up overnight. The biased opinions and reports coming from ISD has been an ongoing problem, as I have highlighted in my previous post. You have had ample time to find new (impartial) reporters who are capable of presenting both sides of an argument. Your feature articles about Kenzoku or Band of Brothers have only ever represented their successes and perhaps only briefly mentioning their failures.
Claiming that ISD isn't able to know everything that's going on in Eve is not relevant in this scenario. We are not talking about some rediculous fight between two fifty-man corporations. This is an ongoing conflict between thousands of players who make up more than 50% of CCP's player base. If ISD staff live under a rock, perhaps I can understand not knowing about the conflict. Are you also telling me that ISD were aware of a breakout of GKC forces from PR- after being camped in for weeks on end, but you were unaware of the amount of deathstars and baby super-capitals that were destroyed in Delve by coalition forces?
Please stop trying to scratch at the surface in an attempt to find excuses for the biased view on ISD news reports. I am but one voice in this community, however I know for a fact that I am not the only one who feels this way. Perhaps it is time that ISD seriously reflects how articles are published and what effect they have on the eve community. I pray that you come to realize the mistakes ISD have consistently made spanning at least two years, before it is too late and the majority of the eve community simply ignores the articles you publish, which I am already beginning to do.
Respectfully, Killer2.
im just gonna quote his so i dont have the spend time writing a similar yet less well shaped opinion
Two items from that post you quoted leap off the page really:
1. The conspiracy theory about why news gets published? - Well, it takes somebody to submit a news lead. Spamming CAOD doesn't count.
2. "This is an ongoing conflict between thousands of players who make up more than 50% of CCP's player base."
Seriously. If you really believe this is correct you really need to wake up and smell the coffee
ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD |
Cippalippus Primus
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:22:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
1. The conspiracy theory about why news gets published? - Well, it takes somebody to submit a news lead. Spamming CAOD doesn't count.
This is what I thought too, but apparently there are people who submitted news leads about events not-so-favourable for BoB and they have been ignored- or the news haven't been published. If they aren't lying about the fact that they submitted news leads, of course, which might as well be; but I doubt it.
I'm against conspiracy theories but I'm glad this thread came out. Anyway, ISD are supposed to be neutral like CCP in their news reporting but that isn't evidently the case, wether there is bias or simple lack of knowledge I don't know, but at the end of the day the news reported aren't neutral neither in their style nor in their content; not to mention timing. -clp
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Myz Toyou
Minmatar Ministry of Destruction SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:24:00 -
[118]
Coalition:
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Al'Htaed
Minmatar Hug Nutz
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:32:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Jade Constantine
1. The conspiracy theory about why news gets published? - Well, it takes somebody to submit a news lead. Spamming CAOD doesn't count.
This is what I thought too, but apparently there are people who submitted news leads about events not-so-favourable for BoB and they have been ignored- or the news haven't been published. If they aren't lying about the fact that they submitted news leads, of course, which might as well be; but I doubt it.
I'm against conspiracy theories but I'm glad this thread came out. Anyway, ISD are supposed to be neutral like CCP in their news reporting but that isn't evidently the case, wether there is bias or simple lack of knowledge I don't know, but at the end of the day the news reported aren't neutral neither in their style nor in their content; not to mention timing.
Dude it's jade. Don't bother.
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Syrinthal
Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:43:00 -
[120]
*PL titan tackled by GBC and almost goes down in Fountain* *2 hours later PL tackles BoB titan in Curse* *Hurley dies to Goons+PL* *3 hours later news post about the PL titan that got tackled and got out* *No news about the actual titan that went down*
During one of the fights in question, there were uncloaked ISD ships 20 odd km off fleets, ISD talk in local while the battle was still on. ISD convoing FC's while the fight was still on.
So ISD rite now~~
hurf blurf etc etc.
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