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Marisol Shimaya
Artic Circle
The I.D.E.A.
25
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Posted - 2012.05.25 00:39:00 -
[931] - Quote
As paying customers , we have rights when the law is in this matter.
When they have change something and don't hear anything, ok that sounds good.
When we are complainning and they have change something we are not agreed on and
they have to change it back to what settings it was before they change it.
Sence it's many poeple complainning so much you in CCP have no choice in this matter
to give us back the old inventory box.
Copy this to text and posted in your post.
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
Kell Darkstar
United States MIlitary Gamers Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:03:00 -
[932] - Quote
Marisol Shimaya wrote:As paying customers , we have rights when the law is in this matter.
When they have change something and don't hear anything, ok that sounds good.
When we are complainning and they have change something we are not agreed on and
they have to change it back to what settings it was before they change it.
Sence it's many poeple complainning so much you in CCP have no choice in this matter
to give us back the old inventory box.
Copy this to text and posted in your post.
You don't seem to understand what "rights" and "freedoms" mean in regards to a video game. Since you have no rights, you should probably go back to pretending to know what the law is.
Personally, I like the new inventory. |
Marisol Shimaya
Artic Circle
The I.D.E.A.
26
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:13:00 -
[933] - Quote
Kell Darkstar
We have rights in this matter and don't tell me about what I should do or not do.
So get real and read all the pages and maybe you can tell us how many are right now think about this new thing
is crap , sucks and undo able.
75% hates this new inventory list
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
sera180
South Park Development
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:18:00 -
[934] - Quote
i agree with Marisol Shimaya it is bad if you like it dont bother us if you fell you need to try be smart and try to bother us you must be bord and have no life
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
khmervareman
Sra loror Corporation
6
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:12:00 -
[935] - Quote
item hangar close after dock ship hangar dont want stay open spend more time use with orca corp hangar ....more more plz bring us back the old inventory |
Melek D'Ivri
NIGHTMARE FACTORY INDUSTRIES
ROL.Citizens
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:28:00 -
[936] - Quote
As a professional salvager and admin that sells a large group of items at a time I can honestly say the new inventory system is bad for either of those. Simple features like always having the filter masks popup or having a little circle cycle through 20 times before your itms appear don't really do a lot for me. Maybe start by having options for the nature of the windows, because I would rather see ALL my ships at one time than all of them but the active. I don't want to make a new ship active by double clicking, I wanted to see inside it and access the cargo.
As a salvager:
I often have to access jetcans or wrecks for about 1/2 second. Now to loot each of them takes at least 10 seconds for 2-3 of them. Plus my ships cargo is left OPEN meaning more lag on my end because the game is probably trying to figure out the value of the contents for the tenth time in that pocket. When I go to put the items into the inventory cans I have to wait several minutes to get to the right one (for figuring out which cans are EMPTY this is actually nice.) Then once I do I have to open my ship cargo, REopen corp hangar, and put salvage in. Very messy overall.
As a seller:
I often have hundreds of items to sort through several steps (1 item might move five times or more). Your unified inventory has made this a mess too.
Anyone wanting to find something quickly, using multiple cans, accessing any openable object in space, or something of the like is going to dislike the new inventory more than likely. Find a way to turn off the features that CRASHED one of my instances causing me to have to do a COMPLETE SYSTEM SHUTDOWN to fix. My computers have handled multiple accounts before, but the newest patches are way to resource hungry to enjoy even a single account running. |
Nitsu
Vanguard Frontiers
Intrepid Crossing
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:35:00 -
[937] - Quote
So what you thought you had a good idea and changed it no matter what the negative feed back from SiSi. Guess what YOU BROKE SOMETHING THAT NEEDED NO F!@$%^# FIXING.
My corp moves a lot of freight for my alliance and its members to and from empire. What you have done is completely complicated what we do as an organization. a standard 30 minute op was turned into a 2 HOUR NIGHTMARE!!!!. put it back the way we had it before. There was nothing wrong with the way it was before.
I don't give a rats ass about other hangers and other POS MODS that are around me when i try like hell to open only the one i clicked on in the starting. I like seeing the hanger that i am moving things too not hoping that it went there beacuase all the other pieces of shite hangers are trying to open repeatedly around me every few seconds. Why on earh do you only let me open one window at a time why must i right click and then click another option to open a window that i want to view and then NOT LET ME OPEN ANOTHER. This is not a legacy concept just a screwed up idea that needs to be reversed. I am so upset with you CCP do we need to start shooting the damn statue in Jita again? you realy messed this up this time. You even took away the right click menues so i am forced to go the long way around through the cluster **** window to try and find my cargo hold/fuel bay/drone bay... You were not even smart enough to give us an option to disable this so we can CHOOSE to use it or not. Your new CFW sucks and just makes me and my corp take way too long to do one damn thing.
So you have 24 hours to fix this or i am taking my 5 accounts and their subscriptions somewhere else. This is just another Crucible forced change and i have had my fill.
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Sanew2k
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:37:00 -
[938] - Quote
Old was way better (like old neocom aswell)...
What a mess, can't even play this anymore. Please stop downgrading this game... seriuos  |
Barron Harper
Swirly Inertia LLC
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:43:00 -
[939] - Quote
Old one back please.
The time taken to salvage a mission is blown out and is really awkward and cumbersome. Moving stuff around the station is now just confusing and stupid.
I hate it. It has not even reduced the amount of clicking involved in emptying all the cans.
Perhaps install options - revert to old / keep new.
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Nitsu
Vanguard Frontiers
Intrepid Crossing
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:31:00 -
[940] - Quote
Next up after that!
Shift-clicking works fine, but like with all shortcuts, you need to know it exists.Quote: WeGÇÖre going to allow inventories to be GÇ£dragged outGÇ¥ of the main UI. ItGÇÖs basically the same functionality as shift clicking, but instead of being hidden behind a hotkey, you can simply drag and drop it out with your mouse.
Your active ship will be available both through the current tree but it will also be available in the hangar tree, to avoid confusion.
When you use a shortcut to open a specific bay, it will open in GÇ£separatedGÇ¥ mode, with the tree view compact so you can quickly get the view you want.
The main UI will always be available from the Neocom, even when you have separated windows open.
So, let me get this straight... You are going to "ALLOW" us to do something remotely close to what we were able to do before? I have a better Idea BURN AND TORCH THE WHOLE DAMN THING!!!! |
Tolmar
Capital Industries Research And Development
Fidelas Constans
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:14:00 -
[941] - Quote
 I am going to fricking lose my mind... Trying to pack up a carrier or using POS mods is a very tedious thing to do now. All of the everyday normal things has become insanely complicated due to this "Fix" you made. This is by far one of the worst things I have ever see a game do in a patch. I would rather the servers not come up for a month than to have a new interface that is totally unusable.
Hmm here is a little fix you could have done added a search with filters and left everything else alone. or made this interface an option you could click on. This addition has made the game has made a simple 5 min process take 20-30 min cause when you click on something or change ships it closes all windows and opens up a list of 100 ships which you have to scroll up and minimize list so you have a chance to find what you were looking for. Then I go and try to use a pos and there are 15 drop down menus cluttering your screen instead of just the storage you are trying to access. How high were you guys when you designed this! Have you ever played the game? what is going on!
PLEASE give us back our old useable interface.... |
Bestower
6 Miners Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:58:00 -
[942] - Quote
simply put "Get the old inventory back"
the new stuff isn't "more" anything except poo
move your shiny new toys to some other button.
your wasting our isk. |
Zeo Twa
Super Secret Wormhole Club
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 07:32:00 -
[943] - Quote
I understand that new things like new inventory are something you just need to get used to. But it needs an optimization/fix asap - corp hangars take ages to load!!! It is really annoying to wait so long!!! |
Don Shadow
Thundercats
Initiative Mercenaries
2
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:59:00 -
[944] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:Our UI people have been on a tear lately, reshaping EVE's many interfaces and making the experience of using them a lot more pleasant. Please read the latest on your user friendly EVE future in this blog from CCP Arrow and CCP Optimal.
hahahaha, nice one CCP! oh wait, in fact it's not a nice one at all, it's a fu****g pain in the ass, and all of it on our money also!
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Udonor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:59:00 -
[945] - Quote
New Inventory can still work.
However, maybe I would think about a toggle switch to give user ability to choose old or new invnetory as default (or new off) while you tune it - will keep mob from lynching you!
IMHO you have the general outline of something new and imporved down.
However, two key areas far short of acceptable: software performance and increased clicks/keystroke to do common repeated operations.
Software performance is probably just a matter of processing the current container focus first before whole hierarchy is updated.
But you need to do human task performance study of old interface versus new interface in common task especially mining (multiple jetcans and Orca), moving stuff at full blown POS especially with many hangar tabs, and lab-industrial ops -- plus the speed and ease of any combat related cargo/drone bay examination or exchanges.
Way too many things require multiple clicks/scrolls/drags to navigate and even then open up ugly (doulbe pane uses too much space). Opening ugly means more clicks to shrink and pretty to simple box.
Suggest some boxes (like jetcans or any Select item box container) needs to default to different (old) way of opening. |
Maraner
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
52
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:21:00 -
[946] - Quote
where is the damn CSM in all of this?
Give us back our old interface, keep your INCARNA 2.0 to yourselves.
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
75
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:37:00 -
[947] - Quote
Maraner wrote:where is the damn CSM in all of this?
Read this:
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/05/22/jesters-trek-quote-of-the-week-play-another-game/
nuff said |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
75
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:42:00 -
[948] - Quote
SoHo White wrote:I regret not logging onto the test server and telling you prior to the installation, that it is really AWFUL !
Hundreds of us did. It made no difference, they did it anyway.
Thats why I will NEVER test anything for them on SISI again, as there is clearly no fraking point.
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disasteur
Tellcomtec Incorporated.
Preatoriani
65
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:23:00 -
[949] - Quote
Rommiee wrote:SoHo White wrote:I regret not logging onto the test server and telling you prior to the installation, that it is really AWFUL ! Hundreds of us did. It made no difference, they did it anyway. Thats why I will NEVER test anything for them on SISI again, as there is clearly no fraking point.
i dont think they care about there old players....what im now curious about is what will new players think when they start messing with EVE and notice they have to read a walktrough/tutorial just for using there station hangars hehehe
who knows, in the future we can all read about how a good game became a pratical joke.
the best way to make a product is to listen to people who use the product, CCP however has a total different view  |
Rhianna BloodELF
Skyforger
Tactical Narcotics Team
9
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:22:00 -
[950] - Quote
RETURN OUR INVENTORY SYSTEM WITH PERSISTENT WINDOWS!!!
GET RID OF THIS UNIFIED INVENTORY AND THE TREE SYSTEM!!!
other than newbies with no POS or inventories to manage no one likes this ridiculus INVETORY UPGRADE (downgrade)... |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:25:00 -
[951] - Quote
LOL
#835 Posted: 2012.05.25 14:04 Wrote: Etharion Calthon
"Well....thankfully I was quoted in post #537. I was very critical of CCP in an earlier post, and it was censored. Now I see my post discussing be censored, was also censored. I guess I have no free speech in CCP's forums.
THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT?
The person doing the sacking, who just sacked the sacker, has just been sacked.
Also noted was Soundwave post that Monday was a PUBLIC holiday. Umm, CCP is a *private* enterprise, so
why weren't you working around the clock fixing the game?
Oh, where are my manners....you were OFF drinking beer toasting your lastest lame patch.
I'm done. Have a nice weekend.
SOMEONE QUOTE this so when they censor it will still be seen. Thanks!"
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Tesan
Can't Resist IRON FIST
4
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:36:00 -
[952] - Quote
CCP does not listen to their players (customers) at all...!?!?!?!
The UNIFIED INVENTORY is the worst idea I have seen in all the upgrades/patches since I started playing the game many years ago. Why would CCP fix a system that worked well and had no problems? And best of all, it failed on SISI and the players all let CCP know about it and they still forced it on us anyway.
I am seeing between 95% to 99% of comments in the forums asking for a return to the old true INVETORY SYSTEM with persistem windows. In my own personal experience the game is now unplayable, I can not manage my POS, or actually do Ratting or Mining in 0.0 with out considerable time and effort. Tasks that used to take only a few key clicks now take me an hour to perform. Then once I leave the station or the POS and return I have to do it all over again, what joy!!!
When the game ceases to be fun and is now a frustrating and extremely time consuming, I no longer desire to spend time in it... |
Sciathica Malhavoc
Can't Resist IRON FIST
10
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:57:00 -
[953] - Quote
Rhianna BloodELF wrote:RETURN OUR INVENTORY SYSTEM WITH PERSISTENT WINDOWS!!!
GET RID OF THIS UNIFIED INVENTORY AND THE TREE SYSTEM!!!
other than newbies with no POS or inventories to manage no one likes this ridiculus INVETORY UPGRADE (downgrade)...
GIVE US BACK OUR INVENTORY SYSTEM, WE DO NOT WANT A UNIFIED INVENTORY!!! |
Haruaki
Skyforger
Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:01:00 -
[954] - Quote
Tesan wrote:CCP does not listen to their players (customers) at all...!?!?!?!
The UNIFIED INVENTORY is the worst idea I have seen in all the upgrades/patches since I started playing the game many years ago. Why would CCP fix a system that worked well and had no problems? And best of all, it failed on SISI and the players all let CCP know about it and they still forced it on us anyway.
I am seeing between 95% to 99% of comments in the forums asking for a return to the old true INVETORY SYSTEM with persistem windows. In my own personal experience the game is now unplayable, I can not manage my POS, or actually do Ratting or Mining in 0.0 with out considerable time and effort. Tasks that used to take only a few key clicks now take me an hour to perform. Then once I leave the station or the POS and return I have to do it all over again, what joy!!!
When the game ceases to be fun and is now a frustrating and extremely time consuming, I no longer desire to spend time in it...
I agree, the game is no longer a pleasure, it has become a "time consuming" task. Get rid of this Unified Inventory or make it optional.. |
Tiver Gladius
Tactical Research LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:22:00 -
[955] - Quote
I have never posted to this Forum. I do not like the new inventory system and as others have said, it is much more burdensome and complicated than the old UI system. Please, don't try to fix what isn't broken - why not put the your programming efforts into new ship classes, etc - things that people who play internet spacehip games really want.
I planned to start an alt character soon and give you a guys another $179.40 per year in revenue, but until this matter is resolved I think I will vote with my purse and refrain from giving you more of my money. |
Windwalker 2007
Skyforger
Tactical Narcotics Team
12
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:22:00 -
[956] - Quote
CCP what happens to your player driven experience motto...!?!?!?
The Unified Inventory was tested on SISI and was a failure there, so CCP decides to drag it on to Tranquility. What is the purpose of SIS if CCP will not listen to the player base when they clearly say something does not work or should not be implemented. I am seeing almost 100% of the posts wanting the UNIFIED INVENTORY removed, so why don't you make it a check box instead of forcing it on all the players who do not want it...?
CCP should not ask players to log into SISI if they are not going to listen to player comments... |
Zanza Mechonis
Vulkan Innovations
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:34:00 -
[957] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:-censored myself because why not?-
No.
"On the internet you can be anything you want... It's strange that many people choose to be stupid." |
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
Perkone
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:58:00 -
[958] - Quote
Ban Hammers are raining down folks.
My other alt got banned for posting Monty Python Spam about the Spam Sketch in the FAKE SPAM THREAD.
Pathetic CCP. Such priorities in choosing who to ban and for why.
Now they start in on those who multi-posted about these UI Issues I guess.
First they ignore you...then THEY start 3 different GM threads about the issue to Divide and Conquer. Then they ban you.
The way the wind blows now is Obvious 
Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies.
"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced." |
Marisol Shimaya
Artic Circle
The I.D.E.A.
44
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:58:00 -
[959] - Quote
CCP after your reboot the server and my inventory still crash my client
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
Nitsu
Vanguard Frontiers
Intrepid Crossing
7
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:46:00 -
[960] - Quote
Update:
The new system did not change a thing so here you go CCP as promised i am disabling my accounts today. You have now lost 5 subscriptions. Whos with me?
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