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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:27:00 -
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If we are being picky, we have to add a lot more alliances.
There are some Goons in the Drone Regions, but they too few and just roaming around (and I'll be blunt, not doing much). MM, aside of random roaming gangs, I've seen none. I could be wrong, though. Sc0rched was quite active, but had to retreat to defend their homespace. UNL is active in the war, but not as much as they were 1 or 2 weeks ago. IRON was too at first, but always with just some mid-sized roaming fleets, so may not had anything to do with the conflict, like MM.
Majesta, Initiative, Wildy and Stella Polar are attacking us from one side, and Red Alliance, Russian Army, Voodoo Tech, Lucky League, etc (I honestly forgot who else, not trying to ommit someone on purpose) from the other. At first, we could keep they at bay, but now they flying together, and as they cover most (if not all) timezones, it's getting hard. For the straight record, some NC alliances do have (or used to, 1 week ago) to have some of the RA tenants neutral (I think some of them even have the Goons neutral...) --------------------------
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.28 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Allahs Warrior on 28/04/2009 21:44:39
Goons have a 5-20 man gangs in IRC space all the time, and an AFK cloaked ship in D-IZ all day. UNL actually sent their capfleet and killed my domi :( and lost 3 or 4 sieging a POS. The POS did all the tackling and damage tbqh. Pretty fail for UNL.
I havent seen any MM. The only alliances I've confirmed seeing as shooting ED/IRC have bee:: Red Alliance (in the hundreds), Lucky League (dozens), Majesta Empire(hundreds), Initiative(somewhere between dozens to hundreds), Wildly Inappropriate(5-15, or 30-60), Goonswarm(1-30), triumvirate (which shoots all sides of the war, I think probably even themselves), Exalted(.) (1-30), IRON sent 80 or so a while ago, Red/RUssia army w/e sends 20 or so,
I'm not one to whine about numbers but when people distort the facts I'm compelled to correct them while in psychology class.
One interesting thing is there was a fight in SG- where Initiative and Majesta fought us on the gate, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxDeathXXx came in a BC to loot and salvage the remains as nobody had time to hold the field and loot, and got shot by one of the NC vagas that was trying to shoot my ronery enyo.
So maybe shadow can stop letting them dock in WNM?
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Kirja
Gallente R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.28 21:47:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Virum Acuedalla
Goons are there because of the impact they had on this conflict from the outset. While you may not be supporting RA with ships etc., you definitely have had a great deal to do with how this conflict is playing out. Alliance theft against IRC/ED that devastated their BPO's, ships, and some resources in effect castrating their ability to bring a heavy fight to RA. Follow that up with an ultimatum to IRC leadership that they get the **** out of RA space or risk having their home systems camped by Goons, which led them to retreat. I think that constitutes Goon involvement in the conflict. I know there was a mass call from IRC/ED leadership to their members for help in recovering from the losses. Hell I dontated 2 billion to the cause before I left. In the end who knows whether they have had the time or the help to rebuild from that little kick in the sack.
I think this is going to be fun to watch play out as both sides are willing to fight hard and bring it. I already told IRC leadership what I felt you needed to do in order to survive the conflict. Now I get to sit back and see what happens.
You may spin facts one way or another as much as you like but the truth is ed/irc/fdn was kicked out of c-j by brute force. The theft happened later and in some way it was a blessing for irc/ed leadership because they got an excellent excuse for simple grunts - "We aren't losing because we suck, we are retreating because of a dirty backstab". In fact I have not seen a single major encounter with ed/irc coming on top. Oh wait, there was that one time, when RA tried to enter zz5 and you succeeded to dd large part of the fleet. The slow pace of RA invasion is largely explained by smart management of stront timers with majority of towers coming at 2-6 AM Moscow time when its hard for us to assemble fleet of sufficient size.
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.28 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Allahs Warrior on 28/04/2009 21:50:18
Originally by: Kirja
You may spin facts one way or another as much as you like but the truth is ed/irc/fdn was kicked out of c-j by brute force. The theft happened later and in some way it was a blessing for irc/ed leadership because they got an excellent excuse for simple grunts - "We aren't losing because we suck, we are retreating because of a dirty backstab". In fact I have not seen a single major encounter with ed/irc coming on top. Oh wait, there was that one time, when RA tried to enter zz5 and you succeeded to dd large part of the fleet. The slow pace of RA invasion is largely explained by smart management of stront timers with majority of towers coming at 2-6 AM Moscow time when its hard for us to assemble fleet of sufficient size.
Really? Is that why we have sovereignty in Insmother and you don't have sov anywhere in Etherium Reach? Because you win all the time? Not like you don't time your towers for russian prime.
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Kirja
Gallente R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Allahs Warrior Edited by: Allahs Warrior on 28/04/2009 21:50:18 Really? Is that why we have sovereignty in Insmother and you don't have sov anywhere in Etherium Reach? Because you win all the time? Not like you don't time your towers for russian prime.
Dear friend, i dont know when and how you got some sov in Insmother nor do i think that you will keep it for much longer. But i wasnt talking about that. I was talking about fleet engagments and i havent seen any major wins on your side.
But i want to finish on a positive note. I think this conflict was a great training for your pilots and the individual skill has increased greatly and it shows. For RA this war is great as well - we got united, new talented FCs appeared, etc etc.. on top of that we can get some tasty dronelands ;)
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Kesper North
Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:49:00 -
[96]
Originally by: NotACynoAlt CynoAlt Look at that news report. Let's correct some stuff shall we?
Morhus Mihi [RAWR] - Delve Majesta Empire [ME] - DUnno The Initiative. [INIT.] - Dunno
Confirming that we live in Vale but are fighting ED/IRC in the Drone Regions.
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.28 23:17:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Kirja
Dear friend, i dont know when and how you got some sov in Insmother nor do i think that you will keep it for much longer. But i wasnt talking about that. I was talking about fleet engagments and i havent seen any major wins on your side.
As far as against RA it's definitely hard to win a major fleet engagement just vs you when you're either in your prime with hundreds of pilots or mixed with 5 other alliances. But yeah I'll give you that when you do fight us in a major engagement you've won more than we have, but we have sov in 5 systems in insmother, 2/3 of which have been there for weeks.
Overall I've had nothing but good fights and impressive use of C-J's 30km station dock range with a thanatos, and aggro mechanics in small gang warfare, and staying up late in n7. o/
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tropic142
Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.29 00:21:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Arronicus Im sorry, but we have already negotiated a deal to sell etherium reach to exalted, with puppet masters being the high bidder on the J7M constellation.
the 2 promethium moons and 1 dyspro that ED owns were sold for 46bill total, ircs 3 dyspro (no promo, lol) were sold for only 26 billion.
Much love to all who bidded in the auction, region will be traded via chribba.
This is bullpoo Puppets will not be buying irc/ed space , some corps left or have been removed from puppets and are forming a new "anu" alliance. Puppet master is still alive in curse region with the original corps.
-Master pen 15 Order
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Hexor V
Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.29 01:43:00 -
[99]
Originally by: NotACynoAlt CynoAlt
I'm going to say that the reporter spoke with ED and IRC who promptly began to spew out any alliance not-friendly that appeared on the killboard... Good try though. Ultimately, ED and IRC are fighting RA and then some northern alliances, everyone else on the list are boiled down in their own regions partaking in a real war XD
Lol you mean what your doing?
All alliances listed have had their take in the invasion/defensive fleets be it prior to the n7 attempt or during the more newer r-6 siege. You can go ahead and tack Stella Polaris onto there as well. Have fun killboard browsing.
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Serizawa Kaho
Minmatar I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.29 09:47:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Allahs Warrior
As far as against RA it's definitely hard to win a major fleet engagement just vs you when you're either in your prime with hundreds of pilots or mixed with 5 other alliances. But yeah I'll give you that when you do fight us in a major engagement you've won more than we have, but we have sov in 5 systems in insmother, 2/3 of which have been there for weeks. o/
you really need to keep your mouth shut on CAOD......
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Chrisdoc79
Gallente Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.29 11:56:00 -
[101]
Ooh someone is touchy today
The way i see it irc/ed are starting to get thier act togther more now and fair play to ya's, your starting to pick and choose your fights a bit better.
Personally i'm having loads of fun atm as there are some nice fights to be had, also noticed kami is starting to attempt fail bomber runs , did somebody finally mute his mic and take away the keys to his cap ship
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.29 15:18:00 -
[102]
No goons have been in any fleet fights against IRC/ED. You will note on your own killboard that they have all been single target kills using HACs, Recons, 'dictors and such.
No capitals have been deployed against IRC/ED, so to suggest we are at war with you is inaccurate.
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Setsnea Exia
Gallente THE ELECTRONIC UNION
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Posted - 2009.04.29 17:03:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Venomire No goons have been in any fleet fights against IRC/ED. You will note on your own killboard that they have all been single target kills using HACs, Recons, 'dictors and such.
No capitals have been deployed against IRC/ED, so to suggest we are at war with you is inaccurate.
ummm capitals does not mean your not involved with the war, all that means is your not sending allot of force to support the war efforts still the fact's is Goons have been in some of the RA gang fights and the system camping for hours cloaked is supporting RA by stoping there ratters/miners or w/e else you guys catching slipping from doing anything they can to replace/build ships for the alliance
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marxist revolutionary
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.29 17:20:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Setsnea Exia
Originally by: Venomire No goons have been in any fleet fights against IRC/ED. You will note on your own killboard that they have all been single target kills using HACs, Recons, 'dictors and such.
No capitals have been deployed against IRC/ED, so to suggest we are at war with you is inaccurate.
ummm capitals does not mean your not involved with the war, all that means is your not sending allot of force to support the war efforts still the fact's is Goons have been in some of the RA gang fights and the system camping for hours cloaked is supporting RA by stoping there ratters/miners or w/e else you guys catching slipping from doing anything they can to replace/build ships for the alliance
getting ganked by bops isn't "war"
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Marcus Riegn
Minmatar Blue Team
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Posted - 2009.04.29 19:21:00 -
[105]
ITT: RA chest beating after calling in UNL, U-RA, BYRN, LL, RA-A, GS, ME, INIT, WI, STELLA, and IRON to pull their nuts out of the fire
IRC acting like pubbies
Farnham and his merry band of morons being bitter
Goons being... well... goons
ED posting 0.o when the hell did they start posting?
Random pubbies (me included) commenting
TRI denying involvement after shooting everything
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Hexor V
Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.29 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: marxist revolutionary
Originally by: Setsnea Exia
Originally by: Venomire No goons have been in any fleet fights against IRC/ED. You will note on your own killboard that they have all been single target kills using HACs, Recons, 'dictors and such.
No capitals have been deployed against IRC/ED, so to suggest we are at war with you is inaccurate.
ummm capitals does not mean your not involved with the war, all that means is your not sending allot of force to support the war efforts still the fact's is Goons have been in some of the RA gang fights and the system camping for hours cloaked is supporting RA by stoping there ratters/miners or w/e else you guys catching slipping from doing anything they can to replace/build ships for the alliance
getting ganked by bops isn't "war"
Assisting the ops, fleets, funding, basically anything assisting "invasion" = "part" of war. I don't recall anyone claiming goons have deployed a mass cap fleet to assault IRC/ED. To say goons aren't involved, well.. Lawl.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.30 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hexor V Assisting the ops, fleets, funding, basically anything assisting "invasion" = "part" of war. I don't recall anyone claiming goons have deployed a mass cap fleet to assault IRC/ED. To say goons aren't involved, well.. Lawl.
This is incorrect. We are not at war with IRC/ED as was implied in the ISD article and at various points in this thread. IRC/ED knows what GS being at war entails when we helped haul your ass out of the fire vs SMASHKILL.
We have not deployed captials. We have not deployed any sort of fleet whatsoever. Ergo we are not at war.
Is BlackOps in the area making trouble for you? Certainly, that's what they do and they're quite good at it. But that is the equivalent of a Lobby Op in Syndicate, a chance for opportunity kills.
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Hexor V
Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.30 03:10:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Hexor V Assisting the ops, fleets, funding, basically anything assisting "invasion" = "part" of war. I don't recall anyone claiming goons have deployed a mass cap fleet to assault IRC/ED. To say goons aren't involved, well.. Lawl.
This is incorrect. We are not at war with IRC/ED as was implied in the ISD article and at various points in this thread. IRC/ED knows what GS being at war entails when we helped haul your ass out of the fire vs SMASHKILL.
We have not deployed captials. We have not deployed any sort of fleet whatsoever. Ergo we are not at war.
Is BlackOps in the area making trouble for you? Certainly, that's what they do and they're quite good at it. But that is the equivalent of a Lobby Op in Syndicate, a chance for opportunity kills.
Now I'm only taking the time to respond to the goon posts because they seem like more than just your average attempt to troll, but seriously where is the common sense? If alliance A and B are at war, and alliance C assists B and attacks A, that means C is, might I put in big letters for you, ASSISTING alliance B. That means your helping in the invasion of alliance A amirite? Yes, I am.
FFS read my posts, reaaaaaaaad them and see I've not once declared goons have deployed capitals nor has anyone declared goons have sent in the massive blobwarfare. Your "BlackOps" haven't cause me any issues as of yet, but I am merely stating what I witness, and what I have is Goons "involvement" in this particular .. war. The ISD article was vague as it should be and it did not mention anything about goon capitals. Get over it, we see what you did thar.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.30 07:41:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Hexor V Now I'm only taking the time to respond to the goon posts because they seem like more than just your average attempt to troll, but seriously where is the common sense? If alliance A and B are at war, and alliance C assists B and attacks A, that means C is, might I put in big letters for you, ASSISTING alliance B. That means your helping in the invasion of alliance A amirite? Yes, I am.
FFS read my posts, reaaaaaaaad them and see I've not once declared goons have deployed capitals nor has anyone declared goons have sent in the massive blobwarfare. Your "BlackOps" haven't cause me any issues as of yet, but I am merely stating what I witness, and what I have is Goons "involvement" in this particular .. war. The ISD article was vague as it should be and it did not mention anything about goon capitals. Get over it, we see what you did thar.
I think you need to reread my own posts. If we do not deploy capitals we are not at war. You readily admit we did not deploy capitals, therefore we are not at war. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Do I need to break it down further, use smaller words perhaps?
That is my point of contention here. We are not at war with IRC/ED. War for GoonSwarm involves capital ships, POS deployment and a myriad of other things which clearly have not happened. War for every other spaceholding alliance involves similar investments in hardware. If those strategic assets are NOT being deployed it is not a war.
Just because a handful of us visit Syndicate and shoot the hell out of people there does not mean we are at war with the people in Syndicate. Just because a handful of us visit your space and shoot you because you keep running your mouth doesn't mean we're at war with you either.
I am fully aware that you have not stated we deployed capitals. IRC has stated, however, that they are at war with us. Citing the points I wrote above (and previously) I am demonstrating that we are not at war, that the claim by IRC/ED that we are is false, and you're trying to paint yourself as some sort of victim.
Which you are a victim, of your own hubris away. However that's a different discussion altogether.
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Huma Tsalis
Minmatar Gateway Industries House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.04.30 11:06:00 -
[110]
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Hexor V
Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.30 14:21:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Hexor V on 30/04/2009 14:23:33
Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Hexor V Now I'm only taking the time to respond to the goon posts because they seem like more than just your average attempt to troll, but seriously where is the common sense? If alliance A and B are at war, and alliance C assists B and attacks A, that means C is, might I put in big letters for you, ASSISTING alliance B. That means your helping in the invasion of alliance A amirite? Yes, I am.
FFS read my posts, reaaaaaaaad them and see I've not once declared goons have deployed capitals nor has anyone declared goons have sent in the massive blobwarfare. Your "BlackOps" haven't cause me any issues as of yet, but I am merely stating what I witness, and what I have is Goons "involvement" in this particular .. war. The ISD article was vague as it should be and it did not mention anything about goon capitals. Get over it, we see what you did thar.
I think you need to reread my own posts. If we do not deploy capitals we are not at war. You readily admit we did not deploy capitals, therefore we are not at war. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Do I need to break it down further, use smaller words perhaps?
That is my point of contention here. We are not at war with IRC/ED. War for GoonSwarm involves capital ships, POS deployment and a myriad of other things which clearly have not happened. War for every other spaceholding alliance involves similar investments in hardware. If those strategic assets are NOT being deployed it is not a war.
Just because a handful of us visit Syndicate and shoot the hell out of people there does not mean we are at war with the people in Syndicate. Just because a handful of us visit your space and shoot you because you keep running your mouth doesn't mean we're at war with you either.
I am fully aware that you have not stated we deployed capitals. IRC has stated, however, that they are at war with us. Citing the points I wrote above (and previously) I am demonstrating that we are not at war, that the claim by IRC/ED that we are is false, and you're trying to paint yourself as some sort of victim.
Which you are a victim, of your own hubris away. However that's a different discussion altogether.
I do not need to reread it. Your all stuck on the fact war means capitals and that is incorrect. Your denying involvement in this war is just hilarious. Victim? as I recall your alliance stole how many caps from IRC and is assisting NC and RA? So, we get to play that card. Your post is absolutely entertaining though I must admit. A goon using a word such as hubris. You just tried to redefine war to your goon bias. You've got troops here, they are fighting in the war, SORRY SIR, you are at war! By jumping in and helping the opposing side in our war that does mean you are part of it. Get used to it.
edit in: I'd thought I'd sidenote the "jumping in" was a metaphor so don't get all fussed and turn that to a declaration GS is jumping in caps. You seem to be rather touchy with the capital subject so it mighnt be needed.
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Talzaris
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.30 14:45:00 -
[112]
Holy crap, I've been dragging my feet to join the other blops guys screwing around with IRC/ED, but now that I see what kind of tears it's generating I guess I know what I'll be doing tonight. Holy ****, you guys are hilarious. I'd love to see how fast your alliance would collapse if we were actually involved in the war and not just sending 5-10 guys over there to screw around and gank people that are flying around solo through unscouted gates.
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von Goethe
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.30 14:45:00 -
[113]
Goddamn, son. A couple of bored ******* goons =/= "sending in troops".
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Virum Acuedalla
Amarr Phantasmal Collective Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.30 16:02:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Hexor V Now I'm only taking the time to respond to the goon posts because they seem like more than just your average attempt to troll, but seriously where is the common sense? If alliance A and B are at war, and alliance C assists B and attacks A, that means C is, might I put in big letters for you, ASSISTING alliance B. That means your helping in the invasion of alliance A amirite? Yes, I am.
FFS read my posts, reaaaaaaaad them and see I've not once declared goons have deployed capitals nor has anyone declared goons have sent in the massive blobwarfare. Your "BlackOps" haven't cause me any issues as of yet, but I am merely stating what I witness, and what I have is Goons "involvement" in this particular .. war. The ISD article was vague as it should be and it did not mention anything about goon capitals. Get over it, we see what you did thar.
I think you need to reread my own posts. If we do not deploy capitals we are not at war. You readily admit we did not deploy capitals, therefore we are not at war. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Do I need to break it down further, use smaller words perhaps?
That is my point of contention here. We are not at war with IRC/ED. War for GoonSwarm involves capital ships, POS deployment and a myriad of other things which clearly have not happened. War for every other spaceholding alliance involves similar investments in hardware. If those strategic assets are NOT being deployed it is not a war.
Just because a handful of us visit Syndicate and shoot the hell out of people there does not mean we are at war with the people in Syndicate. Just because a handful of us visit your space and shoot you because you keep running your mouth doesn't mean we're at war with you either.
I am fully aware that you have not stated we deployed capitals. IRC has stated, however, that they are at war with us. Citing the points I wrote above (and previously) I am demonstrating that we are not at war, that the claim by IRC/ED that we are is false, and you're trying to paint yourself as some sort of victim.
Which you are a victim, of your own hubris away. However that's a different discussion altogether.
Heh, verbal pugilism ftw! I see your point here because technically goons aren't at war with IRC/ED. There's been no verbal declaration nor have the goons sent massive support to RA in the conflict that I'm aware of in terms of troop deployment. A few ships here and there so that pilots can have fun in pvp =/= at war as one of your compatriots stated. I also understand that you're splitting hairs. You're speaking to the article and simply stating that you aren't at war with IRC, but you also haven't stated that you have had no involvement either. Either way, some seem to view the little involvement that goons have had as a possible indication that if things go south for RA that you will become involved. I would also content that Goonswarm had a huge impact on the initial stages of the conflict and would definitely get their hands dirty if RA started getting rolled. Right? Wrong? Under new ownership |
Quetl
Caldari Capital Ships Inc. Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.30 16:23:00 -
[115]
From princeton.edu
the waging of armed conflict against an enemy; "thousands of people were killed in the war"
Goon is red to IRC/ED = Enemy Goon people fighting IRC/ED = armed conflict.
It's pretty simple, you can argue that you are not a major factor of this war, but you cannot argue that Goon is not at war, the only way you could support a claim that Goons aren't at war with IRC/ED is by ordering and enforcing the removal of Goon pilot activity in the area, especially in combined fleet ops.
The idea of not having Caps involved is like saying the U.S/UK are not at war in Iraq and Afghanistan because we haven't nuked them yet...
I know I have just reacted to your attempts to provoke reaction. But the level of your stupidity or egotistical arrogance/ignorance is just overwhelming. I just don't understand why some people (notably goons) would take up the role of utter idiot in this game, well i'm presuming its put on...
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Hexor V
Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.30 16:33:00 -
[116]
The two short posts are lultrolls but I suppose Virem is the best attempt they can get to try and deny involvement.
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stop fire
Minmatar Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2009.04.30 16:47:00 -
[117]
i don't know why the NC was attacking IRC/ED too, because the superior combat expierence of RA would managed the job by it's own too.
GOGO RA ! BAPP! RIP THEM OF!
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Saba Quiestador
Minmatar Titan Industries Technology Team Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.04.30 18:02:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Hexor V
... your alliance claimed they stole how many caps from IRC ...
There, fixed it for you.
It depends on what you mean by "capitals". It was 26 dreads (20 of them fit and fueled), 2 carriers, 3 jump freighters, 6 freighters, and 7000 capital parts.
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ThomastheTank
Minmatar Intergalactic Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.30 18:16:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Saba Quiestador
Originally by: Hexor V
... your alliance claimed they stole how many caps from IRC ...
There, fixed it for you.
It depends on what you mean by "capitals". It was 26 dreads (20 of them fit and fueled), 2 carriers, 3 jump freighters, 6 freighters, and 7000 capital parts.
You do the math.
I think Goons have pretty much single handedly given this to RA. First the crippling blow above^^ then when c-j was being sieged they called IRC off with their sweet songs of happiness. Then if I recall RA poses were being reinforced in N7 (station system) but ED/IRC had to pull out of that to deal with the massive NC pets (ordered by goons to attack) that were pos spamming their other systems. RA was losing towers left and right until Goon diplomacy saved them. Oh but I forgot its RA superiority that is winning this and Goons aren't involved.
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si14thePilot
Caldari Warriors tribe Red Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.30 19:08:00 -
[120]
Lol, guys, it's look like b***hurt. You lose and say "Goons helped them! RA is still dead!" Why you're trying to find an explanation to your fails instead of taking it like a man? Guys, do you really have b***s?
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