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Venomire Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.03 16:00:00 - [181] You don't **** with RA.
Jacob Etienne Caldari Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.03 16:05:00 - [182] Edited by: Jacob Etienne on 03/05/2009 16:05:50 For IRC/ED this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. I've witnessed a good few of their evac carriers shuttling assets to empire. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk russians.
Hexor V Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.03 16:47:00 - [183] Originally by: Jacob Etienne Edited by: Jacob Etienne on 03/05/2009 16:05:50 For IRC/ED this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. I've witnessed a good few of their evac carriers shuttling assets to empire. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk russians. Ladidah privateers.. oh I mean EXALTED YEAH FCK YEAH MAN!! You guys really matter and mean something!! Doing all that you do.. having all that space and all.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.03 17:05:00 - [184] Originally by: Rikeka Edited by: Rikeka on 02/05/2009 20:09:24 As you said it, was just a drop. And that camping CJ-, we started roaming Insmother because LL and RAA were roaming Etherium Reach, and they were both neutral, so what's the problem? RA asked us to let them pass (and put them blue, but still they had us neutral...) we didn't wanted to, so RA attacked that camp while still in blue standings (and under the ciscunstances got owned anyway). Stuff like this, and the other events before it, kinda started it all. It would have been a much fair fight had the NC boys would have stayed out of it, but bleh, **** happens, RA was blue to them and we were now red, that's how EVE works. Here's for more cool fights, and congrats to RA and the NC for the cap kills. the mistake was in trusting russians in the first place. theyve been notoriously unreliable since..well forever.
Farham Gallente Titan Industries Technology Team Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2009.05.03 20:36:00 - [185] Edited by: Farham on 03/05/2009 20:36:27 "the mistake was in trusting russians in the first place." No, the mistake was trusting IRC leadership. They dragged ED and F0oundation into the entire RA plot that was hatched months ago and look who died in what order... Ral, I tried to tell you. I tried to tell many in IRC who was really running things. Oldma (IRC Co-CEO) is a good guy, he unfortunately listens to people who should never, ever be in leadership positions. I mean did you really think having someone who helped run Ka-Tet into the ground at the top was a good idea? Welp. Not hacking it in 0.0 since 2006
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.03 20:51:00 - [186] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 03/05/2009 20:50:51 Originally by: PDP Kordal It's going to be a fun weekend. http://www.damagedealer.com/game/eveonline/watchvideo/878 Just wanted to say this was a really nicely put together vid. Nice work. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Stayche Minmatar Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:18:00 - [187] Originally by: Hexor V Originally by: Jacob Etienne Edited by: Jacob Etienne on 03/05/2009 16:05:50 For IRC/ED this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. I've witnessed a good few of their evac carriers shuttling assets to empire. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk russians. Ladidah privateers.. oh I mean EXALTED YEAH FCK YEAH MAN!! You guys really matter and mean something!! Doing all that you do.. having all that space and all. QFT, you been flamed Jake, WHERE IS YOUR SPACE?
Kostantin Mort Amarr Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:31:00 - [188] Originally by: Stayche Originally by: Hexor V Originally by: Jacob Etienne Edited by: Jacob Etienne on 03/05/2009 16:05:50 For IRC/ED this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. I've witnessed a good few of their evac carriers shuttling assets to empire. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk russians. Ladidah privateers.. oh I mean EXALTED YEAH FCK YEAH MAN!! You guys really matter and mean something!! Doing all that you do.. having all that space and all. QFT, you been flamed Jake, WHERE IS YOUR SPACE? lol look at that exalted scrub thinking they are relevant lol ------ Innovation is a product of madness.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:36:00 - [189] Doesn't look like IRC's going to have space for much longer either
Jacob Etienne Caldari Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:46:00 - [190] Originally by: Hexor V Originally by: Jacob Etienne Edited by: Jacob Etienne on 03/05/2009 16:05:50 For IRC/ED this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. I've witnessed a good few of their evac carriers shuttling assets to empire. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk russians. Ladidah privateers.. oh I mean EXALTED YEAH FCK YEAH MAN!! You guys really matter and mean something!! Doing all that you do.. having all that space and all. Fair point, why don't you, your entire alliance, and all your blues get annihilated by russians about it? Further, why don't you lose all your space and go back to highsec mining about it? Fewer high-end mins than drone compounds, but needs must.

Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:47:00 - [191] space is overrated anyway imo (especially drone space) - Contagious -
Kostantin Mort Amarr Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:49:00 - [192] Originally by: Rawr Cristina space is overrated anyway imo (especially drone space) actually, I'm pretty sure that drone regions are firmly in the "crap-space-why-would-anyone-pay-for-it" part of the chart ------ Innovation is a product of madness.
Jacob Etienne Caldari Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:52:00 - [193] Originally by: Kostantin Mort actually, I'm pretty sure that drone regions are firmly in the "crap-space-why-would-anyone-pay-for-it" part of the chart Hey, true EVE prowess is determined by how well you can hold your own little irrelevant scrap of a terrible region. We're skulking in the shadow of EVE *gods*, kost. You know, while we're popping their caps and milking them for tears.
EvilweaselFinance Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.03 22:15:00 - [194] Originally by: Hexor V Ladidah privateers.. oh I mean EXALTED YEAH FCK YEAH MAN!! You guys really matter and mean something!! Doing all that you do.. having all that space and all. Touchy, aren't you.
EvilweaselFinance Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.03 22:50:00 - [195] Originally by: Brolo That was just a timing issue. Previously GS had been happy with the plan. We all know the current incarnation of RA isn't the RA it was, and if anything this conflict has proved that to be the case. RA had been an absentee landlord with little concern for it's security or it's neighbours. Here's what I don't get. I mean, it makes perfect sense your alliance leadership would lie to you - it was monumentally stupid to do what you did and the reaction from Goonswarm and other RA allies was entirely predictable, and so your alliance leadership needs to pretend they weren't so incredibly stupid. What I don't get is how any of you idiots actually buy it. I mean, RA is Goonswarm's oldest ally, from back when Goonswarm basically didn't have another one in the game. You seriously think Goonswarm would have been willing to sell them out to some crappy drone region alliances? And for what? Nobody cares about you or needs you, it's not like we'd have had anything at all to gain and a huge deal to lose. So seriously; how on earth are you dumb enough to buy this? The immediate and, well, dramatic Goonswarm response should have made it clear there was absolutely no tolerance for an attack on RA. What were our motivation in this fantasy where we would allow it, then slam you down that hard? Just...what? It makes no sense, and the alternative - that your leaders are lying to you - fits the evidence so much better that even cognitive dissonance shouldn't be protecting you.
Hexor V Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.04 01:14:00 - [196] Originally by: EvilweaselFinance Originally by: Hexor V Ladidah privateers.. oh I mean EXALTED YEAH FCK YEAH MAN!! You guys really matter and mean something!! Doing all that you do.. having all that space and all. Touchy, aren't you. Sarcasm. If posting on video game forums made me "touchy" I wouldn't be doing it now would I? :P "Fair point, why don't you, your entire alliance, and all your blues get annihilated by russians about it?" I find this post hilarious. The exalted flames after one troll post has absolutely made my day. :) ALL our blues, all of them! What about the reds? Can we take the 12,000 reds and get annihilated too? Oh what about your main exalted vs IRC/ED forum post? Do you guys even have a clue about what goes on in the space outside of skankron? The alliances surrounding IRC/ED.. You pin having tons of blues and farmers on IRC/ED? Epic.
Hexor V Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.04 01:16:00 - [197] Originally by: EvilweaselFinance Originally by: Brolo That was just a timing issue. Previously GS had been happy with the plan. We all know the current incarnation of RA isn't the RA it was, and if anything this conflict has proved that to be the case. RA had been an absentee landlord with little concern for it's security or it's neighbours. Here's what I don't get. I mean, it makes perfect sense your alliance leadership would lie to you.. How's Suez doing?
Lefiere Minmatar Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.04 02:25:00 - [198] I heard there were IRC feeling butt hurt about losing capitals on their own jump bridge network to Exalted. I already offered your leadership a generous offer to cease hostilities on these POS for a small monetary fee. Not my fault you IMM guys keep joining fail alliances. Also didn't we get rid of your mothership connection by, you know blowing up your mothership? Just sayin'.
Brolo Amarr VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.04 08:06:00 - [199] Edited by: Brolo on 04/05/2009 08:07:40 Originally by: EvilweaselFinance Here's what I don't get. I mean, it makes perfect sense your alliance leadership would lie to you - it was monumentally stupid to do what you did and the reaction from Goonswarm and other RA allies was entirely predictable, and so your alliance leadership needs to pretend they weren't so incredibly stupid. Risky, yes. Stupid, perhaps not & methinks you doth protest too much. Quote: What I don't get is how any of you idiots actually buy it. I mean, RA is Goonswarm's oldest ally, from back when Goonswarm basically didn't have another one in the game. You seriously think Goonswarm would have been willing to sell them out to some crappy drone region alliances? And for what? Nobody cares about you or needs you, it's not like we'd have had anything at all to gain and a huge deal to lose. You have a hostile neighbour. You have a call to deploy across RA space to help out in Tenerifis, or lose standings with NC. You do that and RA/pets do a spot of blue on blue, as they had been in the weeks or months previously. So maybe not stupid, maybe just inevitable. After all, the Red factions had it's ups and downs and were perhaps looking for new space to rent out. Maybe moving the fleets away in answer to the GS call would have been a stupid thing to do. Maybe that upset your plans to take our space while we were away helping you. But as a 'crappy little drone region alliance', we sure seemed to have stirred up a hornets nest. Along with perhaps showing just how weak RA has become if it needs all this suppport to deal with a bunch of miners and care bears. Quote: So seriously; how on earth are you dumb enough to buy this? The immediate and, well, dramatic Goonswarm response should have made it clear there was absolutely no tolerance for an attack on RA. Alternative history view. GIA had comprehensively infiltrated IRC/ED command channels so knew what was happening in advance, and yet did nothing to stop it. There, history branches. Chose from- a)GS knew, but approved. b)GS didn't know. c)GS knew and were exploiting the situation to remove IRC & ED. That perhaps adds context to 'immediate and dramatic' response. If you're thinking of a few CAOD & Scrapheap ultimatums, they were quite quick but lost dramatic impact when RA ignored their side of the ultimatums. If you mean Saba's corp theft, well, there's no suprises in GS exploiting a situation someone else creates for them. There's even less suprise that the corps/alliances shooting at us before the war are the same ones shooting at us now. There's less suprise for GS's phoney 'war' claims when you look at the NC parties involved. Perhaps unsuprisingly, some of the locals aren't intervening because they know the reality of Drone space rather than your version of it. Quote: It makes no sense, and the alternative - that your leaders are lying to you - fits the evidence so much better that even cognitive dissonance shouldn't be protecting you. If anyone is unclear what cognitive dissonance means, look it up, then think of it in context of the statement 'Trust Goons'. Those that understand, perhaps wonder what GS is protecting in RA space. Logistics wins wars after all.
torN Deception Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.04 10:27:00 - [200] Originally by: Brolo Those that understand, perhaps wonder what GS is protecting in RA space. Logistics wins wars after all. Are you insane? Do you understand anything about 0.0 logistics? The cold hard truth is that IRC/ED simply wasn't on Goonfleet's radar before they decided to massively ****-up. That's why nobody held your hand to tell you not to attack RA, that and I can only assume that our diplomats thought nobody could be that stupid. Everything that has happened has been utterly predictable, at least to everyone besides your godawful leaders, who have tried to covered their asses by lying through their teeth to their alliance membership.

Kostantin Mort Amarr Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.04 10:34:00 - [201] Originally by: Hexor V Originally by: EvilweaselFinance Originally by: Hexor V Ladidah privateers.. oh I mean EXALTED YEAH FCK YEAH MAN!! You guys really matter and mean something!! Doing all that you do.. having all that space and all. Touchy, aren't you. Sarcasm. If posting on video game forums made me "touchy" I wouldn't be doing it now would I? :P "Fair point, why don't you, your entire alliance, and all your blues get annihilated by russians about it?" I find this post hilarious. The exalted flames after one troll post has absolutely made my day. :) ALL our blues, all of them! What about the reds? Can we take the 12,000 reds and get annihilated too? Oh what about your main exalted vs IRC/ED forum post? Do you guys even have a clue about what goes on in the space outside of skankron? The alliances surrounding IRC/ED.. You pin having tons of blues and farmers on IRC/ED? Epic. oh man, that cuts deep, so deep you've got me good, there is literally nothing i can say that can oppose such shining wit and logic ------ Innovation is a product of madness.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:33:00 - [202] Originally by: Hexor V Do you guys even have a clue about what goes on in the space outside of skankron? nop sry (lol skankron) - Contagious -
Bapp Amarr Warriors tribe Red Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 12:43:00 - [203] 12:37:18 Notify The station A New Dawn has been captured by Warriors tribe corporation! R-6 is down. Whats next? <3, many hugs, B.A.P.P.
Talzaris Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.04 13:26:00 - [204] Originally by: Bapp 12:37:18 Notify The station A New Dawn has been captured by Warriors tribe corporation! R-6 is down. Whats next? <3, many hugs, B.A.P.P. Which station has all the crap that Gobblock & his friend(s) stole? That's the one you need to capture :)
EvilweaselFinance Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.04 16:28:00 - [205] Originally by: Brolo Risky, yes. Stupid, perhaps not & methinks you doth protest too much. Your leadership isn't saying "well it was risky but we had to do it, damn the consequences" they're saying "it wasn't risky because Goonswarm approved of it".
Hexor V Caldari I.M.M Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.04 16:49:00 - [206] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Originally by: Hexor V Do you guys even have a clue about what goes on in the space outside of skankron? nop sry (lol skankron) <3 yay someone actually got my "seriousness".
Jasmin Soulscream Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.04 16:51:00 - [207] Originally by: Bapp 12:37:18 Notify The station A New Dawn has been captured by Warriors tribe corporation! R-6 is down. Whats next? <3, many hugs, B.A.P.P. :redswarm:
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.04 16:57:00 - [208] Originally by: Bapp 12:37:18 Notify The station A New Dawn has been captured by Warriors tribe corporation! R-6 is down. Whats next? <3, many hugs, B.A.P.P. You're the primary of my heart. or not, it depends on whether or not you have access to my heart's vent.
Saba Quiestador Minmatar Titan Industries Technology Team Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2009.05.04 18:41:00 - [209] Originally by: Talzaris ... Which station has all the crap that Gobblock & his friend(s) stole? That's the one you need to capture :) Assets were in D-IZ, E8-, YM-, and RK-. 60B has been sold in-place (IRC - you will see those 26 dreads undocking soon in your cyno jammed systems, and the new owners will happily build supercaps using your 7000+ cap parts). 140B-worth has already been evacced to empire and mostly liquidated (I.M.M - good job recruiting that jump freighter pilot who had been bought on the forums 12 hours earlier, never asking for an API key or doing a vent interview). The remainder (about 100 battleships, 6 freighters, an orca, hundreds of other T1 ships, several billion units of trit/pye/mex, other misc. crap) will be sold in-place once the stations change hands.
Talzaris Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.04 18:43:00 - [210] Originally by: Saba Quiestador Originally by: Talzaris ... Which station has all the crap that Gobblock & his friend(s) stole? That's the one you need to capture :) Assets were in D-IZ, E8-, YM-, and RK-. 60B has been sold in-place (IRC - you will see those 26 dreads undocking soon in your cyno jammed systems, and the new owners will happily build supercaps using your 7000+ cap parts). 140B-worth has already been evacced to empire and mostly liquidated (I.M.M - good job recruiting that jump freighter pilot who had been bought on the forums 12 hours earlier, never asking for an API key or doing a vent interview). The remainder (about 100 battleships, 6 freighters, an orca, hundreds of other T1 ships, several billion units of trit/pye/mex, other misc. crap) will be sold in-place once the stations change hands. And this is why I love EVE. Beautiful :)



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