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Shardrael
Caldari
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:08:00 -
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Bro to get all that information I posted right there you simply have to follow CAOD, ScrapHeap, Kuguts, For sale forums on eveo and occasionally talk to people on game.
I know it seems like hardwork to keep up to date on whats going on in this game but if you arent willing to do that then you might so something stupid like attack RA and think goons wont burn down your house ohh wait....
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ThomastheTank
Minmatar
Intergalactic Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Shardrael
Bro to get all that information I posted right there you simply have to follow CAOD, ScrapHeap, Kuguts, For sale forums on eveo and occasionally talk to people on game.
I know it seems like hardwork to keep up to date on whats going on in this game but if you arent willing to do that then you might so something stupid like attack RA and think goons wont burn down your house ohh wait....
Oh, but playing with a nice pair is a lot more fun...
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Hexor V
Caldari
I.M.M
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shardrael
Edited by: Shardrael on 04/05/2009 21:06:16
Originally by: ThomastheTank
Oh ok that clarifies it... what was the part where jump freighters are needed for adding again?
Don't worry little guy this is some complex stuff so I understand that you dont get it. So I will start from the beginning
You see a 200 bil theft is all good and dandy but is worth next to nothing to gobbloc (<3 gobb) or anyone else involved while it is sitting in IRC space. He can either sell assets back to IRC (that would be bad because IRC is mean and attacked russian broskis) sell it to other people that had access to the stations or people that thought they would have access to the stations soon (Hi NC and RA) the final option is to evac the stuff from 0.0 now some of it was BPO's and BPC's (god who invents at that horrible me rate) and for some a noobship is the best method for evacing this stuff amirite?
For others however a jumpfreighter and jumpfreighter spies/jumpclones are the way to do things. However because you cant make it all in one trip the value that has succesfully been sold off or atleast gotten out of the ebil IRC space will change over time, in fact it will actually change each time a jump freighter filled with noobi loot makes it back to empire. So at one point in time it may be accurate to say 60 bil has gotten out (lol t2 tracking enhancer bpo buyout for 30 bil) while if someone talks about it a day later it may now be at the 90 bil ticker or like the most recent one sitting at 140 bil (thanks IMM for not checking api keys, not doing vent checks, and not recognizing it was suspicious to have a jump freighter pilot join the corp out of nowhere and just fly stuff back and forth non stop after your alliance just got relieved of 200 bil in assets-- arent recruiting standards awesome!!)
wow I guess that makes IMM the new mamba of IRC 0/ \0
well that concludes story time for today I hope it was helpful to you in your career as forum warrior ThomastheTank
I am sorry though any more questions will cost you 100 mil per, please make payment ingame.
edit; hexor ur right we are pretty dumb for having our number changes with a completely legit reason behind them, I am curious though, if IRC really got a trillion in donations right after the theft what happened to that money, its obvious aweco hasnt really bought more dreads, which leaves you guys up on deck to lose em(taking it for the team hi5 IMM) and its obvious they havent bought more battleship bpos to replace the ones you guys were loosing, given the fact they appear to be giving up on r6 so it didnt really go to towers...... so speaking of ficticious numbers where did all that money go.
and while we are on the subject your alliance is going down in flames (apparently the rats are on fire as well) in part because they dont have any ships left to do anything yet you guys have 3 titans left that see barely any use and a nighthawk bpo held by your alliance.... you would think maybe if it meant saving the alliance they would sell one of those to buy more ships. I guess they dont really give a toss about you guys though (hi5 on joining the alliance to be their meatshield)
Walls of text completely miss you for 0.0 damage!
Yes, since every 27 day old IMM member (yeah, I logged in to check) character has access to AWECO wallet let me tell you their doing great? F.uck if I know.
Use a bit of logic will ya? If you've FOR SURE stolen 200+B of stuff then why after that are the numbers changing. Please take note I'm not questioning the truth of id you did or didn't steal we've heard the story thousands of times, I'm just highlighting your lovely inconsistencies.
Also whats with the mamba thing? Where is the relevance or joke? If your telling jokes they need to be understandable to be funny. 
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Shardrael
Caldari
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:24:00 -
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you are right it is difficult to keep making up inconsistencies if you ever start actually reading what the numerous posts containing the different numbers or the numerous posts offering reading comprehension lessons say. So go right ahead and keep doing what your doing.
Also careful when taking your evac carriers through the wpv jumpbridge I hear exalted is killing IRC caps like evry day.
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Saba Quiestador
Minmatar
Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.05.04 22:22:00 -
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So, here's the thing. When you "liberate" that much stuff, it is kind of hard to put a value on it until it is actually converted to ISK.
First, there is the problem of sheer quantity. There was a lot of stuff. While some of the stuff is easy to value (morphite is just a couple of line items in the spreadsheet, relatively easy to move, and the value can be computed quickly), other stuff isn't (a general freight container full of T1 named components and ammo, for instance).
Next, you have to take into consideration where it is located. I got the cap component, battleship, and Tracking Enhancer II BPOs out in a noob ship (with much 3-stooges/Charlie Chaplin slapstick), but how much are 7002 cap parts really worth when they are sitting in a hostile station? Jita price is around 42B. But it would also take 80 freighter loads to move them out to Jita, which is not practical. So while you could value those parts at 42B, it is more prudent to actually value them at the amount of ISK someone is willing to pay for them.
Last example. In the spreadsheet line item 4117 says "Tracking Enhancer II Blueprint". Now, I thought at first that all of the T2 prints were copies. And most of them were. As a copy, that line item is worth maybe a million or two. Instead, it turned out to be a BPO, worth slightly more.
In terms of being bitter, you're darn right I'm bitter. I spent over 2 years working my ass off for IRC, the last 6 months of it as one of the ruling council and then a director. But I couldn't take the stupidity of IRC leadership any more and resigned. Then less than a day later the leadership of IRC decided to boot me and my TITTS brosefs out on our collective asses and set us "red for life".
Even then, even though I had the capability to do it, I didn't take any of their stuff. We wanted to just get on with our EVE lives, and leave the drone regions behind us. It wasn't until weeks later, when IRC attacked RA and messed up the Eastern front in the war against Kenny/AAA, that I used that alt.
Funny anecdote - the alt that actually performed the "strategic reallocation of assets" had both POS and full hangar roles. When I "liberated the assets", the POS roles had been removed (which is why the titan wasn't aborted and IRC retained their jump bridge network), BUT THE HANGAR ROLES WERE STILL THERE. They actually did a "security sweep" to remove the POS roles from people... but not the hangar roles. That's almost as awesome as I.M.M not doing a vent interview or API check on a character recruited during wartime who had been bought on the forums 12 hours earlier.
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Presidio
Minmatar
ZipZoom Kaboom
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.05.04 22:48:00 -
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Kudos to the **** members for being such key players in the world of eve that 200 bill worth of assets they stole from their previous alliance is not enough to cover the grief they had to endure. So much grief they had to endure that now we, the rest of eve community have to hear about it on a consistent basis.
You know I was a director in this corporation called Generals of Destruction Syndicate. Older players may have heard of this corp. GODS were part of the Phoenix Alliance during the Great Northern War. PA was the first alliance ever to be attacked by BoB. We fought for 9 months.In those 9 months I hate to brag but GODS had the highest losses and kills of any PA corporation despite our small membership. We were vehemently hated by the BoB fellas. Which caused remaining corporations in PA to consider kicking us out in order to negotiate the cease of hostility. PA has virtually lost the war at this point anyways and only few corporations including GODS were still fighting badly outnumbered.
When PA leadership decided to vote us out of the alliance we proudly left without ever speaking of the incident publicly. This is the first time I ever mentioned this (4 years later almost).
Why am I sharing this? Just to let you know that you are not the first or last corporation to be kicked out of an alliance. Man up and get over it.
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Shardrael
Caldari
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.04 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Shardrael on 04/05/2009 22:56:22
ur right bro I have totally seen the error of my ways, proceeding to man up and get over it
btw I am responding to questions so maybe you guys shouldnt be so curious about it?
edit: also grats on kdr bro
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Farham
Gallente
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.04 22:56:00 -
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"When PA leadership decided to vote us out of the alliance we proudly left without ever speaking of the incident publicly. This is the first time I ever mentioned this (4 years later almost).
Why am I sharing this? Just to let you know that you are not the first or last corporation to be kicked out of an alliance. Man up and get over it."
You were voted out over differing views. You walked away.
We were lied about, accused of trying to destroy the alliance and knifed in the back. We simply returned and are returning the favor.
Don't be mad at us because Ral followed IRC down a path of he was asked not to take by folks who would have seen ED protected. Ral is a good guy as I have said. It is shame what is happening to ED.
We have been mostly quiet and content in our move to new digs. That doesn't mean as the final days approach IRC in the drone regions we won't poke our heads in to get in a few "I told you so". The Kami comment from the EOG member is simply priceless. Nice choice their eh IRC?
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penifSMASH
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.04 23:01:00 -
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gobblock always estimated the theft to be somewhere around 200-250b. saba's post calculating the total value at "60b + 140b + remainder" clearly falls in that range.
what's so difficult to understand? christ you IRC pubbies are either great trolls or horrifically stupid.
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Shardrael
Caldari
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.04 23:05:00 -
[250]
Originally by: penifSMASH
gobblock always estimated the theft to be somewhere around 200-250b. saba's post calculating the total value at "60b + 140b + remainder" clearly falls in that range.
what's so difficult to understand? christ you IRC pubbies are either great trolls or horrifically stupid.
listen to the vent recording of the dread fleet dieing, I think its linked in twr, after its pretty clear they are the latter.
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Chrisdoc79
Gallente
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.04 23:21:00 -
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Hmm to all at titt's personally i thought u were ok fellas, but now i see what a bitter little bunch of children u really are, ye irc fecked up big time and you's left under a bad cloud but i belive that IRC also gave you the money for your station when u left did they not ?? but you still felt the need to come on here like, well i'm at a loss for words really i think the mods would instantly ban me if I wrote what i'm thinking, when mamba left they basically lost thier station due to you backstabbing, i'm suprised another alliance would let ya's all in after all you've shown what you will do given the chance 
Yep IRC HC are getting what they deserve and reading from the other bloke about Kami kickint the fleet FC, yep totally belive it, that man shouldnt even be let in a rifter never mind a cap ship, IRC/ED save your selves and just mute the guy honestly you'll actually stand a chance then.
Good to hear busman was going all jihad nothing but love for ya bro now undock a nice hic for me so that I can ram a screaming death monkey in it, i'll give ya a cookie 
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Shardrael
Caldari
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.04 23:28:00 -
[252]
confirming I am bitter because most of eve is going exactly the way I want it now :p
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Venomire
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.04 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hexor V
Oh now I'm so mixed and confused since goonies and RA make fun of things like that. What will I ever do.
Lose your space.
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Hexor V
Caldari
I.M.M
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.05 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Hexor V on 05/05/2009 01:26:33
Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Hexor V
Oh now I'm so mixed and confused since goonies and RA make fun of things like that. What will I ever do.
Lose your space.
I'll sell you r-6, how about it?
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Sixie666
Caldari
Abrakadabra.
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.05.05 01:59:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Hexor V
I'll sell you r-6, how about it?
You don't think RA already rented it out?
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Farham
Gallente
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.05 02:05:00 -
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"Hmm to all at titt's personally i thought u were ok fellas, but now i see what a bitter little bunch of children u really are,"
Coming from someone who jumped ship and is now shooting IRC...well, I think you get the idea.
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Hexor V
Caldari
I.M.M
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.05 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sixie666
Originally by: Hexor V
I'll sell you r-6, how about it?
You don't think RA already rented it out?
Take the joke son, take the joke.
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Saba Quiestador
Minmatar
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.05 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Saba Quiestador on 05/05/2009 02:18:38
Originally by: Chrisdoc79
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but you still felt the need to come on here like, well i'm at a loss for words really i think the mods would instantly ban me if I wrote what i'm thinking, when mamba left they basically lost thier station due to you backstabbing, i'm suprised another alliance would let ya's all in after all you've shown what you will do given the chance
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I keep hearing things like "backstabbing" and "traitor" and stuff like that.
You gotta understand, IRC and TITTS were red to each other for A MONTH before anything happened.
How exactly is that treachery or backstabbing? I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
EDIT: Fixed my failquote.
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente
I.M.M
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.05 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Saba Quiestador
I keep hearing things like "backstabbing" and "traitor" and stuff like that.
You gotta understand, IRC and TITTS were red to each other for A MONTH before anything happened.
How exactly is that treachery or backstabbing? I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
EDIT: Fixed my failquote.
Pretty sure you were blue though
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Farham
Gallente
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.05 03:24:00 -
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"Pretty sure you were blue though"
You would be wrong. We were reset a few days after we left because we felt like letting our story out.
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.05.05 03:53:00 -
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Nuff said.
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xithus
Gallente
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.05 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Allahs Warrior
Originally by: Saba Quiestador
I keep hearing things like "backstabbing" and "traitor" and stuff like that.
You gotta understand, IRC and TITTS were red to each other for A MONTH before anything happened.
How exactly is that treachery or backstabbing? I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
EDIT: Fixed my failquote.
Pretty sure you were blue though
pretty sure you are wrong as I was the one that set IRC red after we got an evemail from dibrle maybe 2 days after we left stating we were red for life unless we kicked one of our members out immediately.....
welp red for life it is.
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente
I.M.M
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.05 05:42:00 -
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Talking about Saba
who was in AWEco
and was blue (dur)
and betrayed them?
not titts
not ZAF
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Farham
Gallente
Titan Industries Technology Team
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.05 06:09:00 -
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"Talking about Saba
who was in AWEco
and was blue (dur)
and betrayed them?
not titts
not ZAF"
What is it with you guys? Saba was a member of TITTS the day we got the knife, check his employment history. We were all red when the reappropriation of assets took place.
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Brolo
Amarr
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.05 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Farham
You would be wrong. We were reset a few days after we left because we felt like letting our story out.
One version of it at least, leaving out a few details like Hardgay and the way you were compensated for your station. But details, details. Hell hath no fury like an FC spurned. You loved IRC, but you always end up hurting the ones you love I guess, and this time making a healthy profit out of it.
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Althun
Caldari
Rukongai
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.05 07:00:00 -
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ED & IRC....
You knew it was coming eventually. Never trust RA & friends. It serves you right after bailing on all the other alliances that they removed before you.
Enjoy the whirlwind!
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Bapp
Amarr
Warriors tribe
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.05 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Bapp on 05/05/2009 07:05:46
Originally by: Althun
ED & IRC....
You knew it was coming eventually. Never trust RA & friends. It serves you right after bailing on all the other alliances that they removed before you.
Enjoy the whirlwind!
why so serious? Did we hurt u too? 
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Hexor V
Caldari
I.M.M
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.05 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Bapp
Edited by: Bapp on 05/05/2009 07:05:46
Originally by: Althun
ED & IRC....
You knew it was coming eventually. Never trust RA & friends. It serves you right after bailing on all the other alliances that they removed before you.
Enjoy the whirlwind!
why so serious? Did we hurt u too?
A bapp appears :O, primary!
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Holy Lowlander
Amarr
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.05.05 08:00:00 -
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I don't really get why people are so bitter to the TiTT guys ... =S
they seem to be the ones who got backstabbed, didn't actually cause much trouble at all for the alliance and then got backstabbed some more... right ?
I don't know anyone in eve that wouldn't return the favor if they had the chance....
Maybe irc should give the whole TiTT thing a litle less attention and put a bit more energy in things that actually matter at the moment , say saving your space for instance ?
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Gho Higyidr
Amarr
Black Serpent Technologies
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.05 08:23:00 -
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This is my last send, which is not to smack, so my appologies Riven, please dun kill me!!
The original plot of this thread was about ED not what IRC did to TiTTs and not what was stolen from IRC.
Sh*t happened, and now the two alliance which I had grown to enjoy are getting stomped on, and it's kinda sad. Thefts like this seem to be growing more and more popular as it's an easy way to kill an alliance and break morale, and some think it's funny.
And to add: I remember seeing TiTTs red soon after they disembarked when Saba joined. *shrugs* Bygones are bygones now, can we stop beating the dead horses please? ;)
Ralian is a good guy. He lives not 20 minutes from me. It sucks to see ED and IRC getting shat on by all of EVE, lol. However that's the way of the game. Ya win some, ya lose some (or all)... Pick up an move on. :)
*accepts her punishment from Riven*
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