No, not a hauler with 2 plexs in it.

I was talking about someone loosing a 500mil fitted hulk and 800mil worth of implants (about 2 plexes worth) in a 1.0 system. Not because the belt was dangerous, but because there are throw-away alts in fully re-imbursed destroyers gaming the clone system, with a guaranteed 10 mil profit if they kill the hulk, even if they get zero loot.

I was being sarcastic.

As for the corporation issue; it is indeed very important to play EVE in a player corporation to get the full EVE experience. Play it solo (or in a bad corp), and you will just scratch the surface of what this game has to offer. The trouble is, you will probably not realize just how significant an impact a good player corp has on your EVE experience until after the fact. Just telling you will not help. You have to experience it yourself. Its a very "matrixy" phenomenom

lol what

They run a good PR campaign, what can I say.

OP you are somewhat right and somewhat wrong. Goons might the largest alliance in EVE, but are still dwarfed next to the total server population. They might make lot of noise and generally take up more space than they deserve, but they are but one of many entities currently struggling for world dominance in EVE Online (albeit a rather successful one) Basically, claiming that EVE is "Goons online" is a such a wild exaggregation that it invalidates your entire case.

But I will still give you credit for one point. I have been playing this game for 5 years, and in those years I think the game has hardened significantly. Its "newbie friendliness" (not that it was very newbie friendly to begin with) has diminished, and the tone, both in-game and on the forums, has become sharper. The trolls, the scammers and the griefers have multiplied. Maybe this just reflects developments taking place in the outside (online) world, I dont know. Personally, I can just say that I have become less and less inclined to participate in any discussion on the forums due to this.

As for the corporation issue; it is indeed very important to play EVE in a player corporation to get the full EVE experience. Play it solo (or in a bad corp), and you will just scratch the surface of what this game has to offer. The trouble is, you will probably not realize just how significant an impact a good player corp has on your EVE experience until after the fact. Just telling you will not help. You have to experience it yourself. Its a very "matrixy" phenomenom

One note to the OP: I can testify that there are nice corps out there.

It is opposite to what troll OP states.

Good socialization in eve is the most important factor.
Trust is the only thing you cant buy.

eve-online is also the only mmo where the devs made a music video calling customers like this a huge whiny pussylol

I'm sure someone is going to call me a newbie whiner that should go back to WoW for posting this,

Posting in an Internet thread.

Also confirming that the OP has a grudge against 2.5% of the playerbase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

if goonswarm is only 2.5% of the player base, then why does CCP call "Burn Jita" a "playerbase-driven event"

Is CCP saying, "we are going to do whatever the loudest 2% tell us to do?"

This sounds a lot like the 1%-ers in the real world telling the other 99% what to do. But unlike the real world, CCP really does have god-like powers, they could easily give concord ships insta-warp ability and stop highsec ganking in an instant, but they choose not to, because they think it's what the players want.

EVE is supposed to be hard? The world is a rough place.

I'm sure someone is going to call me a newbie whiner that should go back to WoW for posting this, but here goes.

EVE online puts a HUGE emphasis on joining a corp and interacting with others, yet my 2 months of experience playing the game and reading the forums have shown me that this game is mostly comprised of unfriendly bigoted people who would rather insult you or pod you than actually be nice to you.

No wonder CCP thinks that "what goonswarm wants" is the same as "what the player-base wants": the only players left on EVE are either goonswarm members, or newbies. All the old players have given up in disgust after loosing 2 plexes worth of ship, fittings and implants to a single ganker in a 7 mil (fully reimbursed) ship

It really comes down to this, do you want eve to grow and add more players? or do you want eve to belong to goonswarm? you can't have both. Unless people stand up and say "the goons do not represent me", this is going to turn into GooN Online instead of EvE Online. All the easy care-bear targets will be gone, and the only players left will be PvPers (just like lowsec/nullsec is now)

By invading highsec, goonswarm destroys highsec. I'm sure the "goal" (if there was one) was to drive more players to lowsec, but they really just drove highsec players off the game entirely

I now look forward to the 4 pages of goonswarm members insulting me and the week of random people following me around in-game stealing my loot and ganking me, just for speaking my mind.

I hope that by world you mean EvE world, and not our real life world, because you probably live in the eve world equivalent of high sec (at worst a .5 sec status solar system). If you want to live in the null sec EvE comparison in our real life world you should probably head to a central america tropical jungle (Argentina/etc) or Africa's interior for example, that's where the world is actually a rough place.

You don't expect you get blown up in the US because we have police; highsec also has police, it should be equally safe.

if goonswarm is only 2.5% of the player base, then why does CCP call "Burn Jita" a "playerbase-driven event"

Is CCP saying, "we are going to do whatever the loudest 2% tell us to do?"

This sounds a lot like the 1%-ers in the real world telling the other 99% what to do. But unlike the real world, CCP really does have god-like powers, they could easily give concord ships insta-warp ability and stop highsec ganking in an instant, but they choose not to, because they think it's what the players want.

You don't expect you get blown up in the US because we have police; highsec also has police, it should be equally safe.

Imagine you live in the US and you are in your car driving to work. Suddenly a central-american terrorist shows up holding a disposable rocket launcher and blows up your car. You wake up in the hospital late for work and without a car, meanwhile the terrorist wakes up in central america and gets a bounty for killing an american, which is more than enough money to buy another rocket launcher, plus he gets to keep whatever money was in the americans wallet. Is it the American's fault for driving a car instead of an APC (armored personnel carrier)?