Huh?

Aside from the random crap the OP spewed I have to agree that eve is a pretty anti-social in nature. The only activity that really takes more then one person after you wrack up some SP is PvP, WH space, and large plex sites. Most of the time when I am on (this is my alt btw, main is in apoc-legion) I am solo unless in a fleet.

Eve needs larger venues like incursions that force players to work together. It really is not a socially engaging game other then relaxing in corp/alliance TS.

'so no one told you life was gonna be this wayyyy'

Aside from the random crap the OP spewed I have to agree that eve is a pretty anti-social in nature. The only activity that really takes more then one person after you wrack up some SP is PvP, WH space, and large plex sites. Most of the time when I am on (this is my alt btw, main is in apoc-legion) I am solo unless in a fleet.

Eve needs larger venues like incursions that force players to work together. It really is not a socially engaging game other then relaxing in corp/alliance TS.

eve is a pretty anti-social in nature

The only activity that really takes more then one person after you wrack up some SP is PvP

Go take hold of a system in 0.0 and keep it defended solo.

I would sure like to make 10 mil for 10 minutes of work, it sure beats running missions for 1 mil isk each. But unlike a lot of the people on EvE and in the real world, I don't feel that easy money should come at the expense of others. I guess actually having a sense of ethics puts me at a disadvantage here.

Which isn't to say I'm opposed to fighting people, just do it the right way. There is a huge difference between challenging someone to a pistol dual (war dec), and shooting someone in the back of the head with a sniper rifle (suicide gank)

It seems to me you dont get what the nature of eve is.

Eve pve should be improved, nobodies argue; eve however is pvp at its soul.

I have been to lowsec. the 5 minute thing was my personal experience, two weeks into the game. some jackass decided to pod me, in my destroyer, just for the lulz

Everything i read in the wiki makes it sound like every gate and station in lowsec has a gate camp at it, the wiki itself makes lowsec sound more dangerous than I want to bother with

I'm moaning that someone is shoving their superiority in my face

unfortunately that would also mean that the person who got me into eve (who has been playing 2006 and has been showing me how to play) doesn't really understand the game either. He has been able to play solo for years and make more than enough isk to buy a plex each month and play for free. It's only in the last few months that solo play has gotten harder.

unfortunately that would also mean that the person who got me into eve (who has been playing 2006 and has been showing me how to play) doesn't really understand the game either. He has been able to play solo for years and make more than enough isk to buy a plex each month and play for free. It's only in the last few months that solo play has gotten harder.

I swear, I read this same thread last year..

anyway.... lets clear up a few things.

~ Your name is schlong; you're in a Corp and presumably not an alt, and your name is schlong. That doesn't speak well for you. If you were an obvious alt troll, things would be different. I'm not sure what it says about you in this case.

~ You started this thread on a flawed premise. You went in with a number of very obvious assumptions, and proceeded to make yourself look like a tool by stating them as unrefutable facts.

You'll notice my initial response reflected that. I generally give people some room when they post about difficulties adapting to EVE, but in your case I just went 'whatever'. In your response posts I didn't see much if any change to this attitude and I still haven't; you appear very narrow minded and have an atypical troll-like disposition.

~ Goons are an Alliance. They take pride in being infamous and posting on the forums in a sometimes trollish fashion, but generally only if it suits them or the poster they are responding to appears to be a bit clueless. Actually, they are some of the most informed and reasonable people in the game that post here.

~ You clearly don't understand the game and make some clear misconceptions to how things work. If you are indeed new, then a certain amount of that is acceptable and even understandable, but it doesn't mean you should just ignore other players advice or people correcting your misconceptions. If you do that, you lose all credibility whatsoever and with that the tolerance of players such as myself. I'm stretching my tolerance out here; you actually moved past it on your first post.

The game is what it is. Don't expect it to change and learn to adapt to it, and adapt to it again when changes are made somewhere that affects you. Every player has to at some point. This is not half a dozen games I don't care to mention or play.

~ Own up. Admit you made a mistake and actually invest the time to find out where. EVE is not what you seem to think it is or say it is and neither are the majority of the player base you see here on the forums. You subscribe to absolute tripe the likes of which some other players have posted here who offer similar observations to yourself without really caring that they are incorrect or skewed to a perspective that EVE should be a particular way.

~ Not everybody who posts against your ideas is entirely right. Some have biases towards a particular play style and others just do it to get on your nerves. Mostly though, they are trying to get you to see that attacking game mechancis or the 'sandbox' is only going to ruin the game. EVE is about adaption, not making the game adapt to your playstyle, and not about making every other player adapt to those core mechancis changes for your sake alone.

~ There is a middle ground. EVE is actually close to it already, though slightly skewed in the favor of the gankers. You can still work around that. Most of it is just poor mechancis and balance issues. Those are being changed as we speak and we've yet to see where it will go. It will be either better or worse, and that will depend on exactly which part of it you are looking at.

~ No game with a PvP element that is multiplayer and not 'just a First Person Shooter' is going to have a perfect balance between industry and PvP and all the activites in between.

Good?

If I could change my name I would. It was the name I picked for the trial account, and I figured it didn't matter that much so I just kept going with the same character. And the corp I'm in is only 2 people, because it means 0% taxes

The more I read from people who disagree me (once they got past the "i can has ur stuff?" stage) the more I realize I was wrong about what eve is.

My choices now are to either try to play it the way everyone else plays and just accept the PvP part, or leave and find a different game. I still have 3 weeks left on this month, so I'm joining a larger corp that has a WH base and I'm going to see where that leads.

I think that goons are excellent roleplayers. They're just playing the bad guys but I genuinely think that they're not as alienated as they try to show.

I also think that CCP is hurting himself by neglecting the safety of HIgh-sec. The security hit should be extended to each and every account and character of the suicide ganker. We all like risk and consequences, don't we?

About the forums, you'll soon realize that if you ignore the 2 or 3 trolls it's quite a funny place to roam. And if you leave GD, you may even find useful informations.

My in-game experience has been quite different. I've mostly found friendly and helpful blokes, even the ones whith whom I fought.

unfortunately that would also mean that the person who got me into eve (who has been playing 2006 and has been showing me how to play) doesn't really understand the game either. He has been able to play solo for years and make more than enough isk to buy a plex each month and play for free. It's only in the last few months that solo play has gotten harder.

I'm not here to "win", you are.

I'm here to bring more attention to a problem with eve and have a civilized discussion about it.

I'm sure someone is going to call me a newbie whiner that should go back to WoW for posting this, but here goes.

EVE online puts a HUGE emphasis on joining a corp and interacting with others, yet my 2 months of experience playing the game and reading the forums have shown me that this game is mostly comprised of unfriendly bigoted people who would rather insult you or pod you than actually be nice to you.

No wonder CCP thinks that "what goonswarm wants" is the same as "what the player-base wants": the only players left on EVE are either goonswarm members, or newbies. All the old players have given up in disgust after loosing 2 plexes worth of ship, fittings and implants to a single ganker in a 7 mil (fully reimbursed) ship

It really comes down to this, do you want eve to grow and add more players? or do you want eve to belong to goonswarm? you can't have both. Unless people stand up and say "the goons do not represent me", this is going to turn into GooN Online instead of EvE Online. All the easy care-bear targets will be gone, and the only players left will be PvPers (just like lowsec/nullsec is now)

By invading highsec, goonswarm destroys highsec. I'm sure the "goal" (if there was one) was to drive more players to lowsec, but they really just drove highsec players off the game entirely

I now look forward to the 4 pages of goonswarm members insulting me and the week of random people following me around in-game stealing my loot and ganking me, just for speaking my mind.

Paid two visits to highsec today, The Mittani sends his regards~
Two towers are dead.

You only succeed with friends in this game.