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Brunaburh
Aurora Security
49
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Posted - 2012.06.13 01:36:00 -
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XavierVE wrote:Quote:CCP Soundwave wrote:
Why would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVE and the war dec system wasn't built for that either. Because it's good game design. In fact, the way war decs were designed with Inferno was absolutely in keeping with the spirit of the sandbox. Allowing entities to rise up and defend other entities, should they wish to. Only problem was, that goofball Jade found a way to use the sandbox to grief Goons, something that is certainly not allowed, especially with devs who came into the game via Goonswarm to begin with being in charge of game mechanics. Favor the blob, everyone should be in 9000 man alliances! Stupid. I'd say you should just spawn them a few t2 BPO's while you're at it, but honestly, that's less egregious than changing the rules for the sole purpose of benefiting the largest entities in the game.
You are a horrid troll.
Balance isn't good game design. Balance is boring game design. If you want everything in balance, why bother flying anything but rifter/rupture/hurricane/malestrom - because all the other races are balanced to be exactly the same?
Balance is not equivalence, and claiming balance is what happens in the current wardec system is blind.
The fringe experience of Honda Accord and Goonswarm and Jade Constantine is not the experience of the hundreds of corporations and alliances in EVE - it is a handful of players (because most Goons aren't in Hisec).
If you want to "rise up and defend" other entities, start your own damn war. And take your stupid, misguided belief that CCP caters to Goonswarm and go play WOW. That type of delusional stupidity has no place in this forum or game. If you have reasonable, practical feedback on the changes on Sisi, please post that GÇô-ánot this drug-induced dribble that you think passes for witty repartee. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
945
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Posted - 2012.06.13 01:47:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Well unless people fly one specific super capital in large numbers, then obviously that needs to be fixed, then back to the unfair galaxy that is eve...
I thought you were for the supercapital nerf eh |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
238
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Posted - 2012.06.13 01:48:00 -
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Can we rename this clause "The CCP caves in to Goons Anti-Allies Provision" ? or more simpley " Lube up small corps get ready for the Goon Shaft Clause" ?
Greg Valanti wrote:im mrmessy wrote:How about something that fixes the wardec pile ons. Goonswarm has 37 corps allied with one war target. I have no idea on how to fix this or make it less annoying CCP Goliath wrote: GÇó Ally contracts have fixed length of two weeks GÇó Allies can not be part of mutual wars GÇô defender cannot hire allies into mutual wars and existing ally contracts are cancelled (with a 24 hour grace period) GÇó Added cost for hiring multiple allies for a war GÇô hiring more than one ally now incur a cost that goes to CONCORD. The cost rises exponentially the more allies are hired into the same war.
The day that CCP 'fixes' stop sucking is the day they start fixing vaccum cleaners |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.06.13 01:48:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Powers Sa wrote: We don't care about K/D, we don't care about the ~isk war~, we don't care about losses/metrics in general. We troll people who lose expensive ship, and make sure they learn from their mistakes. Nothing you are going to do will dissuade us from what we want to do. You aren't going to make our life any difficult than we want it to be. We wanted more targets, you gave us less targets. You should chalk this up as a win and walk away. Alternatively you can support my proposal and we'll both get what we appear to want. A bigger and better forever war. Alternatively, I approve CCP Soundwave's overall direction for the game. I want mercenaries like Noir. Mercenary Group to get paid what they are worth. Our whole venture into highsec with these wardecs has to build up a realistic bounty hunter profession, but unlike CCP's crappy ingame bounty system, ours actually works. Your massive boohoo fest was just a result of us testing things.
CCP Soundwave wrote: I think the biggest issue here is that we're trying to solve different issues. I'm trying to bring the merc trade back into EVE and you're trying to add some measure of fairness into wars, which Isn't really a design philosophy in EVE.
Why would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVE and the war dec system wasn't built for that either. I understand that it's annoying when a big alliance war decs you, but that's hardly new to EVE. Big alliances get annoyed with bigger coalitions outnumber them and so on. That's a fact of life in EVE and we're not likely to change that direction anytime soon. The other thing is that war dec prices are determined by the value you get from them. If you want to go to war with someone, a higher number of potential targets should be more expensive. If you're a smaller alliance, this makes you a less attractive target, unless you've made someone angry in which case you're responsible for any social repercussions you've created.
Letting attackers add allies conflicts with the notion that attacking someone is risky. If you decide you want to go to war with someone, the consequence is that he could punch harder than you anticipated. If this is just about stacking up allies, the power of that choice fades away a little bit.
This all looks good to me. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1497
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Posted - 2012.06.13 01:49:00 -
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Manssell wrote:I think a lot of the problem is that since day 1, other than limiting the ability to shed a war dec, there really never was a coherent framework given for the goals of the new war dec system.
+1
What is the purpose of the wardec system, CCP?
We already have PvP in hisec in the form of can flipping, suicide ganking and awoxing. We already have RvB and FW. The people who are interested in fighting have many avenues for exploring their desire to blow things up.
Forcing industrial corps to dock and log out for a week is not "content", and it will never result in hisec care bears taking that first vital step into PvP. They'll go and play Diablo III or Words with Friends instead.
Having objective based wardecs with a reward system in place might motivate care bears to participate rather than disappear.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2062
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:03:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Manssell wrote:I think a lot of the problem is that since day 1, other than limiting the ability to shed a war dec, there really never was a coherent framework given for the goals of the new war dec system. +1 What is the purpose of the wardec system, CCP? We already have PvP in hisec in the form of can flipping, suicide ganking and awoxing. We already have RvB and FW. The people who are interested in fighting have many avenues for exploring their desire to blow things up. Forcing industrial corps to dock and log out for a week is not "content", and it will never result in hisec care bears taking that first vital step into PvP. They'll go and play Diablo III or Words with Friends instead. Having objective based wardecs with a reward system in place might motivate care bears to participate rather than disappear.
The sad thing is that when you end up jumping down on emergent gameplay and imaginative uses of the wardec ally system to allow a massively outnumbered target to turn the tables on a big fat aggressor because "eve isn't supposed to be fair" it does kinda leave you wondering what the point of the wardec system is as the poster above asks.
Is it just a pay-to-grief (with zero consequences on the attacker tool) after all?
Its not working for merc corps ... Alekseyev Karrde the CSM rep who knows more about empire wars and merc fighting than the rest of the CSM put together says this 1.1 change was the only option all the CSM agreed wouldn't help at all!
So whats the wardec change for if its NOT to boost or improve the merc profession?
It sure doesn't help defenders fight back against bigger attackers. It doesn't help help little corps whose wars get jumped on by big fish. It doesn't add any structure or goal to the system.
The ONLY thing it does is add increased advantage and defense to large alliances who wish to engage in wardecs without risking escalation by the defender.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Brunaburh
Aurora Security
49
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:04:00 -
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LtCol Laurentius wrote:Brunaburh wrote:LtCol Laurentius wrote:Highsec entities a forced into wars without the diplo tools nullsec entities take for granted. Since when do Hisec entities not have the ability to use chat, Skype, voice communications and negotiating skills? Since when could any highsec entity just jump into a war and fire on enemies without beeing part of the wardec?
you are correct - it's a 24 hour notice to start a war, right? So it takes 24 hours.
However, the argument you are trying to make is answered by "in nullsec" - because CONCORD. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
113
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:08:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:The ally system has destroyed the viability of the mercenary profession as EVE has known it since launch. The fact that Inferno's "mercenary marketplace" has cause said destruction is very ironic and not a little bit insulting. Mercs would have been better off if CCP just patched the holes in the war dec system without meddling.
But hope is not completely lost, since CCP is talking about how to fix this issue and if fixed the ally system will actually be a very cool feature for everyone involved (and the merc marketplace will be expanded to something like what you're talking about down the line). The gobsmackingly painful thing about it is the change to the ally system they have decided to put onto SiSi was the only proposed "solution" that the entire CSM present advised against during the summit two weeks ago, didn't get any traction from the CCP people at that meeting, and would seem to not address the design goals set forth by CCP Soundwave earlier in this thread in a meaningful or successful way.
Dialogue on the internal CSM/CCP forums on this issue is ongoing but my expectations are not high.
See, now, that's good dialogue. Thank you, Alek. Most informative. Hopefully our hopes can be higher in the future.
Edit: Oh, and yes, I still think the rest of this patch looks great. :) I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
michael boltonIII
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
203
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:12:00 -
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I'm so glad that Jade is actually still checking this thread so I can dumpster him.
Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. Or you could have friends who are close enough to help split the costs with you. Eve is a social game bro, looks like you just need to work on your play style.
All-in-all it sounds like you want game mechanics to be altered to help cover up the fact that your social skills are not good enough to make friends with anyone of significant military note. Do you also throw food that you get for free onto the street corner and call every homeless person who picks it up your brother-in-arms? |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2062
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:15:00 -
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Mechael wrote:Alekseyev Karrde wrote:The ally system has destroyed the viability of the mercenary profession as EVE has known it since launch. The fact that Inferno's "mercenary marketplace" has cause said destruction is very ironic and not a little bit insulting. Mercs would have been better off if CCP just patched the holes in the war dec system without meddling.
But hope is not completely lost, since CCP is talking about how to fix this issue and if fixed the ally system will actually be a very cool feature for everyone involved (and the merc marketplace will be expanded to something like what you're talking about down the line). The gobsmackingly painful thing about it is the change to the ally system they have decided to put onto SiSi was the only proposed "solution" that the entire CSM present advised against during the summit two weeks ago, didn't get any traction from the CCP people at that meeting, and would seem to not address the design goals set forth by CCP Soundwave earlier in this thread in a meaningful or successful way.
Dialogue on the internal CSM/CCP forums on this issue is ongoing but my expectations are not high. See, now, that's good dialogue. Thank you, Alek. Most informative. Hopefully our hopes can be higher in the future.
Yeah pretty much, example of good CSM communications - though it does show what a worrying fiasco the wardec change really is.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2062
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:19:00 -
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michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you.
I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300.
You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1125
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:24:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Well unless people fly one specific super capital in large numbers, then obviously that needs to be fixed, then back to the unfair galaxy that is eve... I thought you were for the supercapital nerf
I was, for the sake of balance.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Elecktra Blue
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:25:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war.
You've got 36 groups of people that would of jumped on the war regardless if it was against you, or if we had declared war on the flying unicorn corp/alliance, the fact of the matter is, we did not whine about these mechanics, we embraced it. Its high-time you did the same and get over it, you wanted war and you got it, and we plan on playing by whatever changes are put or left in place. Also, stop claiming victory when you are not even participating in the war. |
Nastrado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:26:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war.
How will you ever find time to post useless 10,000 word essays and run you rp "business". You barley log on as it is.
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michael boltonIII
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
203
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:27:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war.
Quote:All-in-all it sounds like you want game mechanics to be altered to help cover up the fact that your social skills are not good enough to make friends with anyone of significant military note. Do you also throw food that you get for free onto the street corner and call every homeless person who picks it up your brother-in-arms?
You forgot to mention the part where none of those people are your actual friends. They are the homeless people on the street corner who you give free bread too, now your complaining that you have to pay for all the free food you give out. I can't even imagine how quickly they'd peace out if they had to pay for the food.
I'd have no problem ponying up a bill a week to protect test's allies in game if they needed help, it sounds like you just aren't good enough at the social game to build those kinds of allies. |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1125
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:28:00 -
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Elecktra Blue wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war. You've got 36 groups of people that would of jumped on the war regardless if it was against you, or if we had declared war on the flying unicorn corp/alliance, the fact of the matter is, we did not whine about these mechanics, we embraced it. Its high-time you did the same and get over it, you wanted war and you got it, and we plan on playing by whatever changes are put or left in place. Also, stop claiming victory when you are not even participating in the war.
Jade coming out on top in any shape or form of goons war decing SF really pisses you off doesn't it?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2062
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:29:00 -
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Nastrado wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war. How will you ever find time to post useless 10,000 word essays and run you rp "business". You barley log on as it is.
Excuse silly fellow I'm currently logged in farming LPs so I can donate to the minmatar "lets get a level 5 store" effort. And you'll find my killboard participation is pretty jaunty this time of year - its not fault that goons are afraid of lowsec.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
372
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:29:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war. I've still not seen your proof that we asked for this. |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1125
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:29:00 -
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Nastrado wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war. How will you ever find time to post useless 10,000 word essays and run you rp "business". You barley log on as it is.
Confirming logging in is a requirement to playing EVE. Also mittens would like to have a word with you.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2062
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:31:00 -
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michael boltonIII wrote: You forgot to mention the part where none of those people are your actual friends
I'll let you into a secret. I know those people in the allied wardec coalition as well as you know most of the mooks who are registered with TEST alliance.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
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michael boltonIII
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
203
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:35:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote: You forgot to mention the part where none of those people are your actual friends I'll let you into a secret. I know those people in the allied wardec coalition as well as you know most of the mooks who are registered with TEST alliance.
Oh you mean the guys in test who would show up by the hundreds to get in fleet with me if it needed to be done?
How often do the people in that allied wardec coalition work together as a team I wonder? Oh right, never. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
372
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:35:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote: You forgot to mention the part where none of those people are your actual friends I'll let you into a secret. I know those people in the allied wardec coalition as well as you know most of the mooks who are registered with TEST alliance. Not very well, then?
Still waiting for that proof that we asked for this. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:39:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Elecktra Blue wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war. You've got 36 groups of people that would of jumped on the war regardless if it was against you, or if we had declared war on the flying unicorn corp/alliance, the fact of the matter is, we did not whine about these mechanics, we embraced it. Its high-time you did the same and get over it, you wanted war and you got it, and we plan on playing by whatever changes are put or left in place. Also, stop claiming victory when you are not even participating in the war. Jade coming out on top in any shape or form of goons war decing SF really pisses you off doesn't it?
Somehow I doubt Jade would come out on top in anything. Self-appointed forums hallway monitor |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2062
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:41:00 -
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michael boltonIII wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote: You forgot to mention the part where none of those people are your actual friends I'll let you into a secret. I know those people in the allied wardec coalition as well as you know most of the mooks who are registered with TEST alliance. Oh you mean the guys in test who would show up by the hundreds to get in fleet with me if it needed to be done? How often do the people in that allied wardec coalition work together as a team I wonder? Oh right, never.
Well you are a big hat space dictator. Your followers are supposed to follow you like some cult leader.
I on the other hand am a space anarchist and I prefer distributed asymetrical warfare and psychological traps. The heroic cells of freedom-loving anti-goon partizans may well never meet or share a cup of tea or indeed have to gather and listen to some speech by a "great leader" but that doesn't stop them being comrades-at-arms in the great struggle against eve imperialism encroaching on the capsuleer trade hubs.
Your big mistake is to assume everyone fights their wars the way you do. (your second mistake is to overestimate the number of jaegerbombs you can sustain before critical balance failure)
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3309
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:43:00 -
[565] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Elecktra Blue wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war. You've got 36 groups of people that would of jumped on the war regardless if it was against you, or if we had declared war on the flying unicorn corp/alliance, the fact of the matter is, we did not whine about these mechanics, we embraced it. Its high-time you did the same and get over it, you wanted war and you got it, and we plan on playing by whatever changes are put or left in place. Also, stop claiming victory when you are not even participating in the war. Jade coming out on top in any shape or form of goons war decing SF really pisses you off doesn't it? So do these unicorns in my house. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3309
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:48:00 -
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They keep pooping rainbows and wizards keep showing up. |
Klann Schreck
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:58:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:I'm reading the same post over and over and over again while trying to find some issues people are having with Inferno 1.1 it's a bit tiring here, have this
You are my favorite CCP. EVER! |
Dabigredboat
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:59:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Elecktra Blue wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade have you ever thought that if you are making enemies out of 5000 man alliances, then it would logically be reasonable that in order to fight them maybe you should be good enough at making friends to have another large alliance ally you. I've got 36 allied corps and alliances ready to go. If CCP don't nerf the alliance system by this time next year it'd be 300. You guys are the ones who want to stop my space-friends from being part of the war. You've got 36 groups of people that would of jumped on the war regardless if it was against you, or if we had declared war on the flying unicorn corp/alliance, the fact of the matter is, we did not whine about these mechanics, we embraced it. Its high-time you did the same and get over it, you wanted war and you got it, and we plan on playing by whatever changes are put or left in place. Also, stop claiming victory when you are not even participating in the war. Jade coming out on top in any shape or form of goons war decing SF really pisses you off doesn't it? So do these unicorns in my house.
Sorry about that. Ill get those taken back to my place tonight :3: |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1022
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:59:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:They keep pooping rainbows and wizards keep showing up. The Mittani is is wizard, right? Lightning comes from his fingers or something. That's what the newbees got out of that one CEO update :shobon:
Also, highsec is a lot more like nullsec now. Random WTs camping gates, it's great ! Of course, I won't lose my alt's pod because no bubbles (unless I lag or afk or something silly). And it's easy to dock and move things about with another alt. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
michael boltonIII
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
203
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Posted - 2012.06.13 02:59:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:michael boltonIII wrote: You forgot to mention the part where none of those people are your actual friends I'll let you into a secret. I know those people in the allied wardec coalition as well as you know most of the mooks who are registered with TEST alliance. Oh you mean the guys in test who would show up by the hundreds to get in fleet with me if it needed to be done? How often do the people in that allied wardec coalition work together as a team I wonder? Oh right, never. Well you are a big hat space dictator. Your followers are supposed to follow you like some cult leader. I on the other hand am a space anarchist and I prefer distributed asymetrical warfare and psychological traps. The heroic cells of freedom-loving anti-goon partizans may well never meet or share a cup of tea or indeed have to gather and listen to some speech by a "great leader" but that doesn't stop them being comrades-at-arms in the great struggle against eve imperialism encroaching on the capsuleer trade hubs. Your big mistake is to assume everyone fights their wars the way you do. (your second mistake is to overestimate the number of jaegerbombs you can sustain before critical balance failure)
Oh good, since all of your allies are making such sacrifices for their lofty beliefs then they should have no problem paying what is comparably a small fee in the fight against oppression. I'm sure your so glad that the new mechanics will weed out the pretenders who are merely exploiting your noble cause for their own evil capitalist cost cutting ventures. As for the mean of "psychological trap" I can only assume you are referring to your own indeterminate gender identity, I fail to see what affect this has on the war but you should talk to Xenuria, as I believe he is the leading expert on such tactics and I feel you two would get along like father and son.
Also, they were rum bombs, I hate Jager. I never fall over when drunk, I am merely a balance anarchist who prefers an asymmetrical center of gravity and psychological inebriation in order to combat more ~mainstream! concepts of standing up. |
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