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Chalion
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:39:00 -
[571]
Originally by: William Caldon
Originally by: Ralph42nd lots of rage, rage, I need to get out and see sunshine, etc
Wow, lots of rage there. You realize that trolling is against CCP's forum policy right? Thus they are in the right. Go on, keep being righteous...your not.
Also, I've noticed that 90% of all this feedback is basically trolling from Goons. Thus 90% is actually worthless. Go figure. Oh and keep flaming, it totally impresses your alliance, your corp and yourself. (In other words, you could be mature, but your not, thus making it hard for people like CCP and myself to take you seriously) Also, CCP has fully explained their actions. Why can't you figure that out?
You can't call cuba.
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Vanija
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:39:00 -
[572]
Originally by: William Caldon
Originally by: Ralph42nd lots of rage, rage, I need to get out and see sunshine, etc
Wow, lots of rage there. You realize that trolling is against CCP's forum policy right? Thus they are in the right. Go on, keep being righteous...your not.
Also, I've noticed that 90% of all this feedback is basically trolling from Goons. Thus 90% is actually worthless. Go figure. Oh and keep flaming, it totally impresses your alliance, your corp and yourself. (In other words, you could be mature, but your not, thus making it hard for people like CCP and myself to take you seriously) Also, CCP has fully explained their actions. Why can't you figure that out?
Because they explanations make no sense.
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Psi Klone
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:41:00 -
[573]
This is WEAK! Go back to the old capital changes that have already undergone months worth of testing on Sisi which the player base is happy with. Get your act together CCP!
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Ralph42nd
Gallente Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:41:00 -
[574]
Originally by: William Caldon Edited by: William Caldon on 20/11/2009 02:39:51
Originally by: Ralph42nd lots of rage, rage, I need to get out and see sunshine, etc
Wow, lots of rage there. You realize that trolling is against CCP's forum policy right? Thus they are in the right. Go on, keep being righteous...your not.
Also, I've noticed that 90% of all this feedback is basically trolling from Goons. Thus 90% is actually worthless. Go figure. Oh and keep flaming, it totally impresses your alliance, your corp and yourself. (In other words, you could be mature, but your not, thus making it hard for people like CCP and myself to take you seriously) Also, CCP has fully explained their actions. Why can't you figure that out?
@Minto: you have no idea what I do.
Please link where any of my questions or anyone else's have been fully answered.
Thank You
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Kris Longknife
Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:41:00 -
[575]
Originally by: Syno Ahlt Edited by: Syno Ahlt on 20/11/2009 02:37:34 I normally don't post on CAOD, but this merited a post.
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This Isn't COAD, this is real. This is happening, waking up from the nightmare isn't going to be a valid option
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Xareth Tovan
New Eden Rock Doctors
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:42:00 -
[576]
Originally by: William Caldon Edited by: William Caldon on 20/11/2009 02:39:51
Originally by: Ralph42nd lots of rage, rage, I need to get out and see sunshine, etc
Wow, lots of rage there. You realize that trolling is against CCP's forum policy right? Thus they are in the right. Go on, keep being righteous...your not.
Also, I've noticed that 90% of all this feedback is basically trolling from Goons. Thus 90% is actually worthless. Go figure. Oh and keep flaming, it totally impresses your alliance, your corp and yourself. (In other words, you could be mature, but your not, thus making it hard for people like CCP and myself to take you seriously) Also, CCP has fully explained their actions. Why can't you figure that out?
@Minto: you have no idea what I do.
what you have failed to notice is the fact that goons, AAA, IT are all agreeing. that alone speaks volumes
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Ice Fist
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:43:00 -
[577]
Originally by: William Caldon
Originally by: Ralph42nd lots of rage, rage, I need to get out and see sunshine, etc
Wow, lots of rage there. You realize that trolling is against CCP's forum policy right? Thus they are in the right. Go on, keep being righteous...your not.
Also, I've noticed that 90% of all this feedback is basically trolling from Goons. Thus 90% is actually worthless. Go figure. Oh and keep flaming, it totally impresses your alliance, your corp and yourself. (In other words, you could be mature, but your not, thus making it hard for people like CCP and myself to take you seriously) Also, CCP has fully explained their actions. Why can't you figure that out?
Quoting someone that isn't ever going to set foot in nullsec and probably won't ever fly a capital ship. Yeah there are alot of us Goons here, but if you noticed we have IT, AAA, Bobby Atlas of all people trolling and agreeing along with us. And it doesn't matter that they explained their reasons, its that their reasons suck. Damn, everytime a politician explains their reasons do you bite and go "ok, do what you want" then too? What is so difficult for you nose-bleeding empire carebears to understand? They promised us gold and are paying us in hopes and dreams. What is NOT to be upset about in our position?
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razzo
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:44:00 -
[578]
Edited by: razzo on 20/11/2009 02:45:57
Originally by: Fire Hawk Actually just spent some time on SISI looking at the dps of turrets on the Erebus VS Moros. with all skill at 5 a moros will out DPS an erebus purely becuase of the Base fitting of a dread ( most of them if not all have 3*damage mods and therefore increase the rate of fire). The erebus or the avatar under current game mechanics can not sacrifice those slots.
Under current game mechanics if a Titan gets tackle in a capital fight and remains tackle it would die in 3.5 minutes to a dread fleet, just like the one IT had running under 2 hours ago in a regular op.
Now CCP my questions are the following:
1) You claim you want the titan to be logistic ship, yet instead of boosting the logistic capabilities you just blaime the player base for not realising their role in the last 2+ years. Now do you really believe the player based community is too dum to realise the potential you claim? or wouldnt it be more logical that you CCP have infact undermined the role of the titan all together and have a wrong appreciation of their real value?
2) You say the titans will be able and I quote " to cause havock in a capital fight", may we the player base find out what facts you are baising this statement on? and no the number of HP is not that relevant when you see cap fights involving 300 dreads, where a pos is put in reinforce in under 3 minutes.
3) Every name you have choosen for the titans are based on legends or greek heroes... which represents death and suffering, how is that represented in your game mechanics? By being logistical beast? which by the way they arent, they just save you from doing a few jumps for lazzy ppl.
4)In an Economical " hypathetic" what is the return an alliance gets by building one titan (45 billion mins + BPC/BPO) over building lets say 30 dreads ( 750 million+BPC/BPO), the dreads will represent rafly 15 times more kills (even including new DD) and represent 3 to 4 more times more HP on the battle field.
5) By nerfing the titans and motherships so much, how do you justify the amount of hours spent by most 0.0 alliance over the last 2 years in the production of those mentioned super capitals.
6)By delaying the release of motherships based on your unhappyness with the changes and at the same time admitting the ship has no real purpuse, What you would say to current mothership pilots for them to keep paying their suscription for another 6 month? or do you actually expect them to just sit quietly and not moan?
7) How do you justify the change of development leadership over the last 2 weeks? Do you think those changes will affect your credibility?
8) as stated nultiple times in this thread that target painters dont work on the intended targets, How do you plan to implement new "effective chances" if you dev team does not seem to understand game mechanics in the firts place?
There are some many more questions is unfunny and tbh i¦d be already extremely surprise if you actually answer any question raised in this thread let alone one of mine.
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William Caldon
Caldari Golden Cross Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:44:00 -
[579]
Edited by: William Caldon on 20/11/2009 02:45:40 "During the development of Dominion we have been looking at the whole of capital ship warfare and in particular the Motherships--reviewing their place on the battlefield and our goals for them as designers. We're unhappy with the role they currently occupy in practice and after much deliberation and testing we aren't happier with the direction we were taking them as anti-capital Supercarriers. In too short a time we've redesigned a ship class that doesn't have a unique enough role or serve a diverse enough purpose. These are massive ships that require amazing amounts resources to produce. They are part of the power equation of EVE's unique and important Alliance Warfare. As designers we need to do is take a few steps back, deliberate more (with your help), go through more testing (also with your help) and really perfect the Mothership redesign."
There. Underlined the important parts. That explains all your questions, just not in the way you want.
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Vanija
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:48:00 -
[580]
Get on stickam and we can drink together.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:48:00 -
[581]
Originally by: William Caldon Also, I've noticed that 90% of all this feedback is basically trolling from Goons. Thus 90% is actually worthless.
Did you not notice that the posts that goons are making are requesting the same thing that everyone else is?
Originally by: William Caldon Also, CCP has fully explained their actions.
No.
RELEASE ABATHUR FROM BONDAGE ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Sertan Deras
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:48:00 -
[582]
Originally by: William Caldon "During the development of Dominion we have been looking at the whole of capital ship warfare and in particular the Motherships--reviewing their place on the battlefield and our goals for them as designers. We're unhappy with the role they currently occupy in practice and after much deliberation and testing we aren't happier with the direction we were taking them as anti-capital Supercarriers. In too short a time we've redesigned a ship class that doesn't have a unique enough role or serve a diverse enough purpose. These are massive ships that require amazing amounts resources to produce. They are part of the power equation of EVE's unique and important Alliance Warfare. As designers we need to do is take a few steps back, deliberate more (with your help), go through more testing (also with your help) and really perfect the Mothership redesign."
There. Underlined the important parts. That explains all your questions, just not in the way you want.
Do you regularly accept the game design acumen of someone who didn't know what ships could and couldn't be target painted, and didn't know capital ships fight at close range? Seems to me, that if he doesn't know those basic things, then he isn't qualified to be giving us reasons as to why he's decided to go back on months of discussion and play testing.
Answer me this: Why would any of us now want to "help" him re-design motherships? So more of our time can be wasted on ideas CCP will implement, test, get a massive amount of positive feedback from, then back out of for, at best, shaky reasons that are barely explained, leaving an 18bn ISK ship worthless for another six months?
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Valanan
Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:49:00 -
[583]
Edited by: Valanan on 20/11/2009 02:50:44 Well, I was running a second account to train a Cap Alt guess I don't need to anymore.
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Minto Took
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:49:00 -
[584]
Originally by: William Caldon Edited by: William Caldon on 20/11/2009 02:46:55 Edited by: William Caldon on 20/11/2009 02:45:40 "During the development of Dominion we have been looking at the whole of capital ship warfare and in particular the Motherships--reviewing their place on the battlefield and our goals for them as designers. We're unhappy with the role they currently occupy in practice and after much deliberation and testing we aren't happier with the direction we were taking them as anti-capital Supercarriers. In too short a time we've redesigned a ship class that doesn't have a unique enough role or serve a diverse enough purpose. These are massive ships that require amazing amounts resources to produce. They are part of the power equation of EVE's unique and important Alliance Warfare. As designers we need to do is take a few steps back, deliberate more (with your help), go through more testing (also with your help) and really perfect the Mothership redesign."
There. Underlined the important parts. That explains all your questions, just not in the way you want.
Someone not in a 0.0 alliance tries to comment about ships used in 0.0 alliances.
lol
FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
Ban CCP Nozh (and stucks) |
Gouglash
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:51:00 -
[585]
I just want to let you know that I just came back to this game after a year off. I left because your ridiculous company reimbursed a titan due to "server logs showed..." in a fight where we dropped about 400 people onto it, and the server didn't even crash. I'm sure that people not even familiar with this incident can guess what alliance that titan belonged to.
So I finally got over it, and decided to give the game a chance, and I'm only a month back and I have to admit that this one employee of yours, Nozh, is quite possibly even more ridiculous than whatever dolt reimbursed that titan.
You set a high bar, CCP. I thought you'd never be able to top it, but you did.
Congratulations.
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Slayton Ford
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:52:00 -
[586]
Nohz should be fixing AFs, not caps. At least then his changes won't cost the player base a significant amount of isk.
It seems CCP wants a ship thats a carrier but better but not as good as a Mom. Fine. Create a supercarrier. Base it off a carrier hull, give it 2x the HP of a carrier, let it use up to 15 drones/fighterbombers/etc. No ewar immunity, let it dock, let it cost ~5-6b. Its simple and could be done in a day. Keep the mom the same except give it 5x the HP of a carrier and can use up to 20 fighterbombers/drones/etc. Its still a red-headed-stepchild but it isn't instapoppped now.
The dread changes show that there was no thought or intelligence involved. Unless close range is 10k. Also, you guys finally fixed Nag and now the nerf. Yea, Nerf minmatar is the CCP rule, I guess they couldn't find another minmatar ship to nerf this patch anyways. --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer... |
The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:55:00 -
[587]
I was having a chat with a goon director who shall remain nameless, and they pointed out to me an issue which I think we should consider in a sober light.
At fanfest, CCP made a big production about how their new corporate rallying cry for this year was 'Excellence'. They showed videos and even had that delightful little rap-rock "HTFU" thing proclaiming their solidarity as a company and the quality of their work.
Does someone who does not comprehend basic aspects of capital warfare - or even ewar mechanics - being in charge of the capital dev portfolio represent CCP's 'Excellence'?
As much as I'd like to simply post lil dude and talk about how wonderful - or shall I say 'excellent' CCP Abathurs changes were - how delightful it was to see a transparent, two-way feedback process between devs and players on Sisi - this blog forces the question.
Where's the excellence?
Sins of a Solar Spymaster: my ~fair and balanced~ column TheMittani @ Twitter
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Toman Torax
Rage For Order Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:56:00 -
[588]
Originally by: William Caldon Edited by: William Caldon on 20/11/2009 02:46:55 Edited by: William Caldon on 20/11/2009 02:45:40 "During the development of Dominion we have been looking at the whole of capital ship warfare and in particular the Motherships--reviewing their place on the battlefield and our goals for them as designers. We're unhappy with the role they currently occupy in practice and after much deliberation and testing we aren't happier with the direction we were taking them as anti-capital Supercarriers. In too short a time we've redesigned a ship class that doesn't have a unique enough role or serve a diverse enough purpose. These are massive ships that require amazing amounts resources to produce. They are part of the power equation of EVE's unique and important Alliance Warfare. As designers we need to do is take a few steps back, deliberate more (with your help), go through more testing (also with your help) and really perfect the Mothership redesign."
There. Underlined the important parts. That explains all your questions, just not in the way you want.
Hey there empire buddy... guess what? They proposed a new role for these ships. They seemed good, and were balanced. People generally liked them. Then something happened. Abathur's ideas were scrapped. This guy Nozh came in - someone who doesn't even know how simple mechanics work/do not work with capital ships. He puked out some ideas, and people were like WTF? Then he came back later and said "okay so that won't work, so lets try this instead". And that had an even worse reaction. Now, instead of going back to a set of ideas THAT WERE TESTED AND ACCEPTED AS FINE... CCP's response is "**** it, we'll do NOTHING instead". Do you see the problem with any of this? No, of course you don't. You never leave empire. And obviously, some of the people WORKING on this game don't actually PLAY it.
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disposable tradealt
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:56:00 -
[589]
Originally by: Slayton Ford Yea, Nerf minmatar is the CCP rule, I guess they couldn't find another minmatar ship to nerf this patch anyways.
They already nerfed all the good ones anyway.
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WrathOfOprah
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:57:00 -
[590]
Originally by: Gouglash I just want to let you know that I just came back to this game after a year off. I left because your ridiculous company reimbursed a titan due to "server logs showed..." in a fight where we dropped about 400 people onto it, and the server didn't even crash. I'm sure that people not even familiar with this incident can guess what alliance that titan belonged to.
This story is hard to believe because we all know that CCP's logs never show anything.
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Johndalar
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:57:00 -
[591]
I want to be a fly on the wall when its morning in iceland and the boss sees this. Heads are going to roll
And for good reason, you fail to communicate to your customers and now the hand that feeds you is biting back.
If there is a logical explanation for the past two weeks I would love to hear it but until you give us the "feedback" we need I am with the mob. I Want Heads!
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razzo
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:57:00 -
[592]
Originally by: Slayton Ford Nohz should be fixing AFs, not caps. At least then his changes won't cost the player base a significant amount of isk.
It seems CCP wants a ship thats a carrier but better but not as good as a Mom. Fine. Create a supercarrier. Base it off a carrier hull, give it 2x the HP of a carrier, let it use up to 15 drones/fighterbombers/etc. No ewar immunity, let it dock, let it cost ~5-6b. Its simple and could be done in a day. Keep the mom the same except give it 5x the HP of a carrier and can use up to 20 fighterbombers/drones/etc. Its still a red-headed-stepchild but it isn't instapoppped now.
The dread changes show that there was no thought or intelligence involved. Unless close range is 10k. Also, you guys finally fixed Nag and now the nerf. Yea, Nerf minmatar is the CCP rule, I guess they couldn't find another minmatar ship to nerf this patch anyways.
//Signed//
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:58:00 -
[593]
Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 20/11/2009 03:01:05 Try me. Let me guess, that would be someone who holds sov, because anyone else who doesn't hold sov: "DOESN'T UNDERSTAND OUR PAIN!!!". (and if that isn't elitist, I don't know what is...) While I sympathize with those who fly Motherships, wouldn't you rather that CCP release quality products? Considering, I might add, these quality products are free. Take a chill pill you guys, geez....you make this one dev blog sound like the entire expansion is ruined. While the Target painting comment was a bit whacked, I'll agree, I think your blowing it out of proportion.
So tl;dr: chilllllllllllll.
Did I mention I brought a flame-proof suit?
Hah, not going to give quoters the pleasure... Signature is now under construction: check back in a couple weeks. Or months....
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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Sertan Deras
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 03:00:00 -
[594]
Guys guys, the person who is in control of the most expensive ships in the game doesn't understand basic game mechanics. It's cool though, chillllllll.
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Hratli Smirks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 03:00:00 -
[595]
Edited by: Hratli Smirks on 20/11/2009 03:04:07 Serious post: Did nobody kind of look over this thing and say, "Hey, man, you can't targetpaint POS modules or sieged/triaged capitals or really anything a capital is supposed to shoot at." I mean it isn't like Nozh is running a one man show here, somebody had to bring this up at some point, right?
Unless this is really just a big troll like I was saying before.
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Kushmir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 03:01:00 -
[596]
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Ferroque
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 03:02:00 -
[597]
"heh"
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Vanija
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 03:03:00 -
[598]
Originally by: Hratli Smirks Serious post: Did nobody kind of look over this thing and say, "Hey, man, you can't targetpaint POS modules or sieged/triaged capitals." I mean it isn't like Nozh is running a one man show here, somebody had to bring this up at some point, right?
Unless this is really just a big troll like I was saying before.
Obviously you don't realize how ******ed CCP is....
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Minto Took
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 03:03:00 -
[599]
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker ...wouldn't you rather that CCP release quality products?
They could, you know, push back the release date.
FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
Ban CCP Nozh (and stucks) |
Astetta
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Posted - 2009.11.20 03:04:00 -
[600]
Edited by: Astetta on 20/11/2009 03:04:21 Hey guys, this internet spaceship game wasn't really all that fun anyway. Let's go find one where the developers have a clue and use their own product. ٩๏̯͡๏)۶__________/
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