Can you blame him with all the crap the community gives him? There's a difference between tyrannical devs and devs reacting to an assholish community.

Rules are simple in respect to what Navigator said. You respect employees AND volunteers. No exceptions.

Their forums.

Their rules.

Can't deal with it? GTFO.

will you please just shutup, you are the worst shitposter I've seen in ages.

will you please just shutup, you are the worst shitposter I've seen in ages.

These forums seriously need quadruple the amount of moderation and PERMANENT bans. You know its bad when a cesspit like kugu has higher quality discussion then the official forum.

When you stop bitching about company employee's acting well within their realm and rights, I might consider it. Otherwise, go biomass.

EDIT: If you don't like me, block me. Feature is there for a reason.

Why don't you apply that logic to the posters you think should be moderated?

Cause you're stupid.

Almost the first thing I did when I came into the forums was to acknowledge that there needs to be a place to discuss moderation in the general sense rather than specific instances of it. I am very much ready to discuss my own opinions regarding ways of moderation. This thread served that purpose, true, but it currently does more bad than good due to events that negatively affected it over the summer that I myself had nothing to do with because I wasn't a part of the Community Team yet.

Removing the sticky on this thread is not an attempt to bury it or hide it. I can lock and delete for that. I'm trying to convey the point that we know things aren't in their best possible state yet and we are actively working towards getting them there. The seminar will be held this week as I said, and we will continue on from there.

I'm not promising anything because I want to be able to deliver, but I can say that I have a specific goal and I am working towards that.

The future of Community and CCL

Almost the first thing I did when I came into the forums was to acknowledge that there needs to be a place to discuss moderation in the general sense rather than specific instances of it. I am very much ready to discuss my own opinions regarding ways of moderation. This thread served that purpose, true, but it currently does more bad than good due to events that negatively affected it over the summer that I myself had nothing to do with because I wasn't a part of the Community Team yet.

Removing the sticky on this thread is not an attempt to bury it or hide it. I can lock and delete for that. I'm trying to convey the point that we know things aren't in their best possible state yet and we are actively working towards getting them there. The seminar will be held this week as I said, and we will continue on from there.

I'm not promising anything because I want to be able to deliver, but I can say that I have a specific goal and I am working towards that.

Hopefully a short one.

Unfortunately, this would be way too open to abuse. Hence why moderation should never be done by the OP (especially as we have OPs that troll too).

I think the real fear is that a few very eloquent posters who really capture the spirit of the community would have the ability to interject ideas that the majority likes and the vocal minority wouldn't be able to troll the thread into derailment skirting the rules of conduct.

Your team is an effin joke

They are biased, un educated morons who lock topics they don't want to read about and keep open troll topics by moronic alliance people who cant string an educated idea together

Get a real forum officer

Not the idiots with no lives you currently have

You make me laugh.

Here is the only rule you really need to be concerned about.:

When you run the EVE Community team you can make all the rules you like and enforce them as you see fit. Until that time we would invite you to follow the current forum rules and show some respect to those staff and volunteers who aim to make it a better place for everyone else.

If that is something you feel is not within your power then we may have a problem.

There needs to be some oversight here. This guy is clearly hostile toward the player base. We have no recourse. File petition, he'll just delete it. Someone at CCP who's not involved with the Eve community team needs to review the petitions.

Hostility begets hostility. People can frame certain questions certain ways. Pipa framed hers in a hostile manner, plain and simple. People are assholes in this thread, so assholery will be given back to them. Act civily, and you get civility.

They TRIED to be professional and you bittervet assholes just tear them up. They should have just outright ban people instead of giving them warning. Nothing would be lost anyway.

stuff

No, the problem is that your idea would turn each thread into it's own fishbowl for the OP and whatever flunkies/sockpuppets they might have.

Your claim that other threads would check this behavior is ridiculous, as all the badposter OP would have to do would be claim the counter threads are just the result of that OP censoring their thread.


At best, it risks splitting every thread with a hint of contention into two threads yelling at each other.

Hostility begets hostility. People can frame certain questions certain ways. Pipa framed hers in a hostile manner, plain and simple. People are assholes in this thread, so assholery will be given back to them. Act civily, and you get civility.

They TRIED to be professional and you bittervet assholes just tear them up. They should have just outright ban people instead of giving them warning. Nothing would be lost anyway.

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 'sockpuppet'?

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 'sockpuppet'?

I think the real fear is that a few very eloquent posters who really capture the spirit of the community would have the ability to interject ideas that the majority likes and the vocal minority wouldn't be able to troll the thread into derailment skirting the rules of conduct.

7. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not contribute to the sense of community we want for our forums.

Hi,

Just to give you an update on the Killmail thing.

As of right now, the position we're sticking to is that posting killmails leads to trolling, and will be dealt with as an application of forum rule 7.



You may be pleased to know however, that we've been discussing this internally, a lot.
I don't know what the final decision is going to be, but I just wanted to assure you that we're not brushing this under the carpet.

Don't forget that there is a ISD seminar for the CCL team tomorrow and people will have the chance to ask questions of representatives of both the CCL team and the CCP Community team.

Have at look at this thread for details.

Thanks and fly safe.

Pipa,

I am not going to get into word games with you about this.

Just wait and see what the CCP Community team comes up with.