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nonig	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:10:00 - [511] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNUUpTIoEZ0
Herra Muron	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:10:00 - [512] Originally by: DJB16 they do part backups each downtime coz to so a backup for the WHOLE of eve in less than 10 hours would be impossible i do not think there exists a hard drive large enough that cannot be copied into an image in less than an hour. More hard drives can be copied in parallel.
Chokolata	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:10:00 - [513] Edited by: Chokolata on 07/05/2010 18:10:48 Those are my feelings at the moment.
Marcus Vorenius	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:11:00 - [514] Edited by: Marcus Vorenius on 07/05/2010 18:11:25 Originally by: Orbite Edited by: Orbite on 07/05/2010 18:06:09 Originally by: Marcus Vorenius give me a freakin break - the database is as good as the ISK you thow at it. Imagine one of the top-5 Investment banks going off-line for an hour ... not happening. I'm pretty sure the bank would have the money to throw at getting 5 9's uptime. Sure CCP could get 5 9's but your monthly fee would likely have to go up to pay for the extra hardware, licences and staff... Edit: 5 9's = 99.999% - Sorry, used to referring to it as that at work. .... which confirms my point: it's a matter of how much they invest in the tools (i.e. DB) and people (e.g. DB designers, admins etc.) ... obviously they need to throw a few more ISK at this
xmaddness	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:11:00 - [515] I am pretty sure the Eve database servers are not the issue here. I am pretty sure CCP has enough common sense to run them in clusters and to do proper replication on them just in case the SHTF. Just doing a restore on it is not the issue either. Somewhere, some code, really screwed up and is feeding the DB garbage. GIGO (Garbage in garbage out) Right now the ccp devs are debugging and stack tracing thousands of lines of code to figure out what is feeding the DB garbage. Have fun devs!
ZeroGSheep	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:12:00 - [516] Originally by: ImMattDamon Servers! UP! you're a bad man
Teibor	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:12:00 - [517] Originally by: ZeroGSheep Originally by: ImMattDamon Servers! UP! you're a bad man and you are far too polite.
Orbite	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:13:00 - [518] Originally by: Marcus Vorenius Originally by: Orbite Edited by: Orbite on 07/05/2010 18:06:09 Originally by: Marcus Vorenius give me a freakin break - the database is as good as the ISK you thow at it. Imagine one of the top-5 Investment banks going off-line for an hour ... not happening. I'm pretty sure the bank would have the money to throw at getting 5 9's uptime. Sure CCP could get 5 9's but your monthly fee would likely have to go up to pay for the extra hardware, licences and staff... Edit: 5 9's = 99.999% - Sorry, used to referring to it as that at work. .... which confirms my point: it's a matter of how much they invest in the tools (i.e. DB) and people (e.g. DB designers, admins etc.) ... obviously the need to throw a few more ISK at this So you (and others) wouldn't moan if that entailed your monthly payment (or whatever you choose for a payment cycle) went up as a result of providing for that?
asdadadad	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:14:00 - [519] server not up
Femerov Minmatar Brutor Gearheads and Grease Monkeys Ex Inferis.	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:14:00 - [520] ok. who forgot to feed the ccp hamsters ? :)
T00NCES	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:14:00 - [521] Originally by: Teibor Originally by: ZeroGSheep Originally by: ImMattDamon Servers! UP! you're a bad man and you are far too polite. For a moment I saw red, Then everyone around me was dead. WTF!
ImMattDamon	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:14:00 - [522] Lol Got your E Peens all erect for a moment there! Lol!
Nikon Evenstar	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:15:00 - [523] Originally by: xmaddness Right now the ccp devs are debugging and stack tracing thousands of lines of code to figure out what is feeding the DB garbage. Been there done that :( I don't envy them right now.
bigneo	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:15:00 - [524] Originally by: asdadadad server not up lol at this ^
DJB16 Gallente DJB16 Empire	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:15:00 - [525] Originally by: xmaddness Right now the ccp devs are debugging and stack tracing thousands of lines of code to figure out what is feeding the DB garbage. Have fun devs! try millions of lines of code and ull be getting closer
Sherringford Hovis	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:15:00 - [526] Originally by: ImMattDamon Servers! UP! You aware how many people want to war dec you when the servers really ARE up?
Riedle Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:16:00 - [527] In before all the computer geeks that know exactly what the problem is. oh wai.. D'oh!
Shoikan Minmatar Fleet of the Damned	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:16:00 - [528] Originally by: Herra Muron Originally by: DJB16 they do part backups each downtime coz to so a backup for the WHOLE of eve in less than 10 hours would be impossible i do not think there exists a hard drive large enough that cannot be copied into an image in less than an hour. More hard drives can be copied in parallel. Actually, doing this is not the smartest route to take. What they probably do (it depends a little bit on the manufacturer of the storage they use, but the general idea is the same for all), is that they create a 'snap'. This snap is basically a point in time, rather than a true copy of the storage. Next, they start up the databases/server(s) again. From the point of the snapshot onwards, only the stuff that differs from the situation at moment the 'snap' was taken will be written to storage. Meanwhile, the backup can be made of the 'snap', since that data is still there. Once the backup is finished, the 'snap' is destroyed. This means that all the 'old' versions of the stuff that changed is thrown away, thereby releasing the storage. This is the 'HP' way.. EMC does it the other way around, roughly....
ZeroGSheep	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:17:00 - [529] Originally by: Teibor Originally by: ZeroGSheep Originally by: ImMattDamon Servers! UP! you're a bad man and you are far too polite.[/quote I figure i lost my right to be shouty loud when i actually updated evemon to check On a more random note, my bonkers gf decided Zylenka from SG-Atlantis sounds scottish
xmaddness	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:17:00 - [530] Edited by: xmaddness on 07/05/2010 18:18:13 Originally by: DJB16 Originally by: xmaddness Right now the ccp devs are debugging and stack tracing thousands of lines of code to figure out what is feeding the DB garbage. Have fun devs! try millions of lines of code and ull be getting closer I say thousands because chances are they know the function, or at least the module that is feeding that particular row and/or table (most RDBM's can give you that info now days) and are just now trying to figure out what is wrong with it and why its doing what it's doing. I certainly do not envy them atm.
Diluain	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:17:00 - [531] Originally by: Riedle In before all the computer geeks that know exactly what the problem is. oh wai.. D'oh! I lol'd
Dunkle Lars Amarr	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:18:00 - [532] Wtf are you all complaining about? so the server isn't up for a few hours.. buh f..... huh! It's Friday night for ..... sake. Get outside, drink a beer, get some sunlight on the pale skin, get laid... Maybe if it was the 3'rd or 4'th day in a row this was a problem you'ld be entitled to complain. Anything before that..stfu! Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned all reason is like giving medicine to the dead
ZuKoS	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:18:00 - [533] Originally by: CCP Navigator Update at 16.47 UTC[/yellow] We will update players further as more information becomes available. All departments are working to resolve this situation as quickly as possible. We will update you all closer to 18:30 UTC. ITS 18:17 how close to 18:30 comes a update
Marcus Vorenius	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:18:00 - [534] Originally by: Orbite Originally by: Marcus Vorenius Originally by: Orbite Edited by: Orbite on 07/05/2010 18:06:09 Originally by: Marcus Vorenius give me a freakin break - the database is as good as the ISK you thow at it. Imagine one of the top-5 Investment banks going off-line for an hour ... not happening. I'm pretty sure the bank would have the money to throw at getting 5 9's uptime. Sure CCP could get 5 9's but your monthly fee would likely have to go up to pay for the extra hardware, licences and staff... Edit: 5 9's = 99.999% - Sorry, used to referring to it as that at work. .... which confirms my point: it's a matter of how much they invest in the tools (i.e. DB) and people (e.g. DB designers, admins etc.) ... obviously the need to throw a few more ISK at this So you (and others) wouldn't moan if that entailed your monthly payment (or whatever you choose for a payment cycle) went up as a result of providing for that? lol - if they can just provide a useable forum that would ge a great start. On your question: they should just make sure that the current features are working in a decent way - i.e. major fleet battles, then I would be happy to pay more
Teibor	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:19:00 - [535] Hmm, less than 15 mins before we find the new expected time for it to return.
Cory Sopapilla Minmatar Kiroshi Group	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:20:00 - [536] I'm unsure if this is related or could help in tracking things down, but I noticed my API was pulling some corp jobs still as incomplete that I had delivered from another character last week. Sounds like some kind of synching update that missed.
ImMattDamon	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:20:00 - [537] Go ahead and spend 100 mill a week no skin off my feet. Blow me! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy! All work and no Eve makes jack a dull boy!
asdadadad	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:20:00 - [538] Originally by: Dunkle Lars Wtf are you all complaining about? so the server isn't up for a few hours.. buh f..... huh! It's Friday night for ..... sake. Get outside, drink a beer, get some sunlight on the pale skin, get laid... Maybe if it was the 3'rd or 4'th day in a row this was a problem you'ld be entitled to complain. Anything before that..stfu! sun tan at night??
Poo Ka'hontas Red Eye Brigade Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:20:00 - [539] Edited by: Poo Ka''hontas on 07/05/2010 18:20:05 Originally by: ZuKoS ITS 18:17 how close to 18:30 comes a update 18:42 is closer than 18:17 ______________________________________________ My sig is on strike due to lack of attention!
T00NCES	Posted - 2010.05.07 18:20:00 - [540] Originally by: Dunkle Lars Wtf are you all complaining about? so the server isn't up for a few hours.. buh f..... huh! It's Friday night for ..... sake. Get outside, drink a beer, get some sunlight on the pale skin, get laid... Maybe if it was the 3'rd or 4'th day in a row this was a problem you'ld be entitled to complain. Anything before that..stfu! What is this "sunlight" you speak of?

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