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VeniVidi Vici	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:13:00 - [361] Originally by: Coret Trobane Fret can take a screenshot of the capture/chatlogs folder when in "details" view mode, with the relevent logs highlighted, and the window large enough so that we can see when the log file was last changed. If it's got the time and date of when that convo actually ended, fret's definately in the clear. If it's not, that file has been tampered with :) and i'd hate to give Fret any ideas but what if he changes his comp's system date and time and then edits the file again to reflect the end of the convo? ------------------- http://cys.net.au
VeniVidi Vici	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:13:00 - [362] Originally by: Coret Trobane Fret can take a screenshot of the capture/chatlogs folder when in "details" view mode, with the relevent logs highlighted, and the window large enough so that we can see when the log file was last changed. If it's got the time and date of when that convo actually ended, fret's definately in the clear. If it's not, that file has been tampered with :) and i'd hate to give Fret any ideas but what if he changes his comp's system date and time and then edits the file again to reflect the end of the convo? ------------------- http://cys.net.au
Yasshiel	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:13:00 - [363] Originally by: Mammy Edited by: Mammy on 16/12/2004 06:01:47 Originally by: Vaio Edited by: Vaio on 08/12/2004 20:00:27 i retract my bid. OMG, didn't see this before. This is the one in the very same guy that wanted to steal from my corp (with Tion?). Did he learn of Tion's scam from Tion and retract the bid?? Lo and behold they have been in several corps together (1 with me) at the same time. Both of these guys reek of something... edit. clarified lol.. actually that post was like "The highest bid is 340mil. so far. C'mon people you can do better" =p then when i visited the thread again.. he changed it to that "I retract my bid." hmm...
Yasshiel	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:13:00 - [364] Originally by: Mammy Edited by: Mammy on 16/12/2004 06:01:47 Originally by: Vaio Edited by: Vaio on 08/12/2004 20:00:27 i retract my bid. OMG, didn't see this before. This is the one in the very same guy that wanted to steal from my corp (with Tion?). Did he learn of Tion's scam from Tion and retract the bid?? Lo and behold they have been in several corps together (1 with me) at the same time. Both of these guys reek of something... edit. clarified lol.. actually that post was like "The highest bid is 340mil. so far. C'mon people you can do better" =p then when i visited the thread again.. he changed it to that "I retract my bid." hmm...
Weebear	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:15:00 - [365] Originally by: Coret Trobane I'm surprised no one's mentioned this as an idea yet ... but even though there's little doubt remaining on Fret not being a scammer ... there is one easy way to see whether or not Fret's chat log was altered or not. Fret can take a screenshot of the capture/chatlogs folder when in "details" view mode, with the relevent logs highlighted, and the window large enough so that we can see when the log file was last changed. If it's got the time and date of when that convo actually ended, fret's definately in the clear. If it's not, that file has been tampered with :) Copy and paste the text elsewhere and edit the text would not update the modified date. ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
Weebear	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:15:00 - [366] Originally by: Coret Trobane I'm surprised no one's mentioned this as an idea yet ... but even though there's little doubt remaining on Fret not being a scammer ... there is one easy way to see whether or not Fret's chat log was altered or not. Fret can take a screenshot of the capture/chatlogs folder when in "details" view mode, with the relevent logs highlighted, and the window large enough so that we can see when the log file was last changed. If it's got the time and date of when that convo actually ended, fret's definately in the clear. If it's not, that file has been tampered with :) Copy and paste the text elsewhere and edit the text would not update the modified date. ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
s4mp3r0r	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:16:00 - [367] Originally by: Pandora Panda Originally by: s4mp3r0r What if : Axee = Tion = Fret ? God, I love a good mystery I doubt that. If that were the case, Tion/Axee would have obviously taken the money and run, to force tornsoul to pay Fret 750m. Since they didnt, and this drama started, it can be reasonably concluded that they are not fret. Are you sure ? If Fret = Axee & Tion, that could explain why Axee didn't log on yet. Axee got 750M (from what I can understand), Tion is the scapegoat. Axee, as long as he doesn't log on, will remain the main suspect IMHO. If the suspect never logs on again, BIG would evidently have to pay, especially since there's only 1 screeny. BIG being the big salesparty in EVE would have considerable experience with scammers and should be prepared when dealing with anyone. Aren't there corpwide rules when buying/selling stuff in BIG's name as a BIG member ? Only 1 screenshot ??? I mean come on... In any case, the original scam is still for 750M. If you send 750M to one of your own chars, you gain nothing. If you send 750M to one of your chars, act like a customer that didn't get what he paid for, BIG would have to pay the 750M, no ? This adds up to a healthy profit of 750M. Plus, if you had some dealings with FA/Torn/BIG before and you got screwed somehow, you could be inclined to spend a little more time perfecting a scam to tarnish their name. Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile !
s4mp3r0r	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:16:00 - [368] Originally by: Pandora Panda Originally by: s4mp3r0r What if : Axee = Tion = Fret ? God, I love a good mystery I doubt that. If that were the case, Tion/Axee would have obviously taken the money and run, to force tornsoul to pay Fret 750m. Since they didnt, and this drama started, it can be reasonably concluded that they are not fret. Are you sure ? If Fret = Axee & Tion, that could explain why Axee didn't log on yet. Axee got 750M (from what I can understand), Tion is the scapegoat. Axee, as long as he doesn't log on, will remain the main suspect IMHO. If the suspect never logs on again, BIG would evidently have to pay, especially since there's only 1 screeny. BIG being the big salesparty in EVE would have considerable experience with scammers and should be prepared when dealing with anyone. Aren't there corpwide rules when buying/selling stuff in BIG's name as a BIG member ? Only 1 screenshot ??? I mean come on... In any case, the original scam is still for 750M. If you send 750M to one of your own chars, you gain nothing. If you send 750M to one of your chars, act like a customer that didn't get what he paid for, BIG would have to pay the 750M, no ? This adds up to a healthy profit of 750M. Plus, if you had some dealings with FA/Torn/BIG before and you got screwed somehow, you could be inclined to spend a little more time perfecting a scam to tarnish their name. Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile !
SiN x	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:18:00 - [369] Hmm this might be interesting not sure what it could prove but... [ 2004.12.11 04:21:19 ] Tion > I do not know because I've never done it that is starnge for sure [ 2004.12.11 04:21:27 ] Fret > but hopefuly i get the char...after all thts what i want the most [ 2004.12.11 04:21:40 ] Fret > ty for your help sir, i have to go to lunch [ 2004.12.11 04:21:43 ] Fret > ill be in touch [ 2004.12.11 04:21:44 ] Tion > yes it's a nice char [ 2004.12.11 04:21:50 ] Tion > ok enjoy your lunch look at the screenshot again if this was the true timestamp on the convo then Quote: Fret > Ya i got the charecter, se(nd the ISK) would not match the time tion sent the isk. [ 2004.12.11 04:21:27 ] is when the message was typed 2004.12.11 04:15 is when tion sent the isk. Just pointing it out as I saw it.
SiN x	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:18:00 - [370] Hmm this might be interesting not sure what it could prove but... [ 2004.12.11 04:21:19 ] Tion > I do not know because I've never done it that is starnge for sure [ 2004.12.11 04:21:27 ] Fret > but hopefuly i get the char...after all thts what i want the most [ 2004.12.11 04:21:40 ] Fret > ty for your help sir, i have to go to lunch [ 2004.12.11 04:21:43 ] Fret > ill be in touch [ 2004.12.11 04:21:44 ] Tion > yes it's a nice char [ 2004.12.11 04:21:50 ] Tion > ok enjoy your lunch look at the screenshot again if this was the true timestamp on the convo then Quote: Fret > Ya i got the charecter, se(nd the ISK) would not match the time tion sent the isk. [ 2004.12.11 04:21:27 ] is when the message was typed 2004.12.11 04:15 is when tion sent the isk. Just pointing it out as I saw it.
Coret Trobane	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:22:00 - [371] True, it would be easily fake-able i guess (in reference to my idea in my last post) Hadn't thought it through thoroughly to be honest ... not been awake long :)
Coret Trobane	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:22:00 - [372] True, it would be easily fake-able i guess (in reference to my idea in my last post) Hadn't thought it through thoroughly to be honest ... not been awake long :)
DPO Agent	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:22:00 - [373] something here is not right. every second this goes on BIG get more bad PR. yet the evidence BIG brought forward does more to implicate their member than the 1 they are defending against. All this just happens to ocur in the 2 weeks of BIG's second BIGest lotto prize ever the imperial geddon. Somebody is out to get BIG but oddly it's NOT fret. confused? i am.
DPO Agent	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:22:00 - [374] something here is not right. every second this goes on BIG get more bad PR. yet the evidence BIG brought forward does more to implicate their member than the 1 they are defending against. All this just happens to ocur in the 2 weeks of BIG's second BIGest lotto prize ever the imperial geddon. Somebody is out to get BIG but oddly it's NOT fret. confused? i am.
Alli	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:29:00 - [375] Originally by: fallen killer Well Done Tornsoul Another scammer caught FRET give it up you tried and failed looser I see all the BIG/FA bashers are trying to clutch at straws pathetic the evidence is overwhelming You obviosly havn't read the whole thing!
Alli	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:29:00 - [376] Originally by: fallen killer Well Done Tornsoul Another scammer caught FRET give it up you tried and failed looser I see all the BIG/FA bashers are trying to clutch at straws pathetic the evidence is overwhelming You obviosly havn't read the whole thing!
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:29:00 - [377] This is one of the best threads ever. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:29:00 - [378] This is one of the best threads ever. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Quell Shriker	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:29:00 - [379] Edited by: Quell Shriker on 16/12/2004 11:34:03 Originally by: Coret Trobane There is one easy way to see whether or not Fret's chat log was altered or not. If fret was the only person to have logged on that account, lol! nah this is pretty interesting, I thought I pointed out some rather important things in my last post, but yeah there are wholes everywhere, I guess it could point to anyone if you only looked at the holes.
Quell Shriker	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:29:00 - [380] Edited by: Quell Shriker on 16/12/2004 11:34:03 Originally by: Coret Trobane There is one easy way to see whether or not Fret's chat log was altered or not. If fret was the only person to have logged on that account, lol! nah this is pretty interesting, I thought I pointed out some rather important things in my last post, but yeah there are wholes everywhere, I guess it could point to anyone if you only looked at the holes.
Alli	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:33:00 - [381] Originally by: Mrs Hauler Fret Your "im too stupid to use a computer - look at me im all innocent and niave" doesn't wash Who are you -- (nobody) who is BIG -- (Well known corp with proven track record that deal in many billions) Frankly love him or hate him Tornsoul wouldn't stoop to this crap - your trying to convince 20k of players that he would do a total u-turn for no apparent reason that protecting a member or stealing some ISK -well this is one player that you won't convince. He said at the beginning of the thread char transfer is not something he wants his corp to do - now we see why scammers like you targetting the T2 corps to try and damage thier rep -- well done you have just improved it 100 fold. To Tornsoul - fantastic work and the funniest story I've read for a long time. This coupled with the evidence given = Fret you are a total idiot - that screenshot shoots you down in flames - You gave it a try and failed - move on nothing more to do here. PS if there is a conspiracy here then try these are you and axee in this together ? was it your intention to attack BIG rather than go for the 750 mill- who's backing you? Are you that bitter and twisted that when caught you cant actually admit it? Did you get your account from ebay? When are you gonna admit that your caught and stop giving BIG's reputation an increase instead of doing the damage you intend? Try reading the whole thread befor you post.
Alli	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:33:00 - [382] Originally by: Mrs Hauler Fret Your "im too stupid to use a computer - look at me im all innocent and niave" doesn't wash Who are you -- (nobody) who is BIG -- (Well known corp with proven track record that deal in many billions) Frankly love him or hate him Tornsoul wouldn't stoop to this crap - your trying to convince 20k of players that he would do a total u-turn for no apparent reason that protecting a member or stealing some ISK -well this is one player that you won't convince. He said at the beginning of the thread char transfer is not something he wants his corp to do - now we see why scammers like you targetting the T2 corps to try and damage thier rep -- well done you have just improved it 100 fold. To Tornsoul - fantastic work and the funniest story I've read for a long time. This coupled with the evidence given = Fret you are a total idiot - that screenshot shoots you down in flames - You gave it a try and failed - move on nothing more to do here. PS if there is a conspiracy here then try these are you and axee in this together ? was it your intention to attack BIG rather than go for the 750 mill- who's backing you? Are you that bitter and twisted that when caught you cant actually admit it? Did you get your account from ebay? When are you gonna admit that your caught and stop giving BIG's reputation an increase instead of doing the damage you intend? Try reading the whole thread befor you post.
Coret Trobane	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:33:00 - [383] Originally by: Quell Shriker Originally by: Coret Trobane There is one easy way to see whether or not Fret's chat log was altered or not. If fret was the only person to have logged on that account, lol! You can't alter a chat log saved on the HDD already from within eve, and also, any logs generated would be saved on the computer of the one who logged in, not the one who owns the account.
Coret Trobane	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:33:00 - [384] Originally by: Quell Shriker Originally by: Coret Trobane There is one easy way to see whether or not Fret's chat log was altered or not. If fret was the only person to have logged on that account, lol! You can't alter a chat log saved on the HDD already from within eve, and also, any logs generated would be saved on the computer of the one who logged in, not the one who owns the account.
Evona Moucrou	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:35:00 - [385] Originally by: Coret Trobane ... Fret can take a screenshot of the capture/chatlogs folder when in "details" view mode, with the relevent logs highlighted, and the window large enough so that we can see when the log file was last changed. ... The involved players cannot supply the required proof, as they have to show whether they are trustworthy or not, we have to assume that they might temper will all evidence. Re: "last changed" From the Java API documentation: " java.io.File.setLastModified(long) Sets the last-modified time of the file or directory named by this abstract pathname. All platforms support file-modification times to the nearest second, but some provide more precision. The argument will be truncated to fit the supported precision. If the operation succeeds and no intervening operations on the file take place, then the next invocation of the lastModified() method will return the (possibly truncated) time argument that was passed to this method. "
Evona Moucrou	Posted - 2004.12.16 11:35:00 - [386] Originally by: Coret Trobane ... Fret can take a screenshot of the capture/chatlogs folder when in "details" view mode, with the relevent logs highlighted, and the window large enough so that we can see when the log file was last changed. ... The involved players cannot supply the required proof, as they have to show whether they are trustworthy or not, we have to assume that they might temper will all evidence. Re: "last changed" From the Java API documentation: " java.io.File.setLastModified(long) Sets the last-modified time of the file or directory named by this abstract pathname. All platforms support file-modification times to the nearest second, but some provide more precision. The argument will be truncated to fit the supported precision. If the operation succeeds and no intervening operations on the file take place, then the next invocation of the lastModified() method will return the (possibly truncated) time argument that was passed to this method. "
Faramir	Posted - 2004.12.16 14:00:00 - [387] I hope the "truth" is near, i'm running out of popcorn
Faramir	Posted - 2004.12.16 14:00:00 - [388] I hope the "truth" is near, i'm running out of popcorn
Farah Soster	Posted - 2004.12.16 14:05:00 - [389] I think it was the Butler that did it.
Farah Soster	Posted - 2004.12.16 14:05:00 - [390] I think it was the Butler that did it.

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