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Lord Byron	Posted - 2004.12.16 03:57:00 - [241] DAMN , what a PR I would gladly pay 1 BILL. for such a "scam". N.A.G.A Corp \| NeoCom Site Lord Byron - Burnt Head Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares
Lord Byron	Posted - 2004.12.16 03:57:00 - [242] DAMN , what a PR I would gladly pay 1 BILL. for such a "scam". N.A.G.A Corp \| NeoCom Site Lord Byron - Burnt Head Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares
Duncan	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:02:00 - [243] Originally by: Lig Lira Quote: 3. A new one that earned me 750 million ISK not too long ago is the æselling a fake characterÆ scam. Take screenshots of a character with lots of skill points, assets and good standings. Create an auction on the sell forum about you wanting to get rid of your character (post with an alt). DonÆt reveal the characters name and then have people bid on the character for 2-3 days. If you can find a person whoÆs willing to pay you the money first or even just æhalf now-half laterÆ like I got, you could find your wallet growing significantly without much effort. Note that this does not break any rules. So this is a coincidence? No one has tried to explain these comments yet. (I don't think I missed it) Plenty of SUper high Industial char have been sold in the last month month & half, i remember bids reaching 1.5 to 2bil, half of that comes to just about 750mil. Vegeta is not stupid enough to talk about an ONGOEING scam. But then only he really knows
Duncan	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:02:00 - [244] Originally by: Lig Lira Quote: 3. A new one that earned me 750 million ISK not too long ago is the æselling a fake characterÆ scam. Take screenshots of a character with lots of skill points, assets and good standings. Create an auction on the sell forum about you wanting to get rid of your character (post with an alt). DonÆt reveal the characters name and then have people bid on the character for 2-3 days. If you can find a person whoÆs willing to pay you the money first or even just æhalf now-half laterÆ like I got, you could find your wallet growing significantly without much effort. Note that this does not break any rules. So this is a coincidence? No one has tried to explain these comments yet. (I don't think I missed it) Plenty of SUper high Industial char have been sold in the last month month & half, i remember bids reaching 1.5 to 2bil, half of that comes to just about 750mil. Vegeta is not stupid enough to talk about an ONGOEING scam. But then only he really knows
Duncan	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:04:00 - [245] Originally by: Lord Byron DAMN , what a PR I would gladly pay 1 BILL. for such a "scam". LB check your mailbox, i've got a "character" i want to auction off Mind beeing the middleman???
Duncan	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:04:00 - [246] Originally by: Lord Byron DAMN , what a PR I would gladly pay 1 BILL. for such a "scam". LB check your mailbox, i've got a "character" i want to auction off Mind beeing the middleman???
voodoo	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:08:00 - [247] another thing thats interisting to me is the fact the auction was extended 3 hours from its dead line. with a BIG member acting as middleman the fact that teh auction was extended 3 hours is BS, what about the bidder that had the last bid when the auction was supposed to end, then its extended so that fret can get the char? that itself is bad business alone. the fact the auction was extended from its original time kinda blows why was the auction extended? and was everyone who bid notified that the auction was being extended? 10 min sniper rule??? BIG ok's and puts there name on the auction, is this how they run auctions just randomly extending when ever and for whoever they choose bad business and for that alone really they need to refund and eat the scam the auction was bogus and not what BIG stands for or is it? So BIG my question to you is, is this how you run auctions? The Blue Pills Make Me Happy
voodoo	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:08:00 - [248] another thing thats interisting to me is the fact the auction was extended 3 hours from its dead line. with a BIG member acting as middleman the fact that teh auction was extended 3 hours is BS, what about the bidder that had the last bid when the auction was supposed to end, then its extended so that fret can get the char? that itself is bad business alone. the fact the auction was extended from its original time kinda blows why was the auction extended? and was everyone who bid notified that the auction was being extended? 10 min sniper rule??? BIG ok's and puts there name on the auction, is this how they run auctions just randomly extending when ever and for whoever they choose bad business and for that alone really they need to refund and eat the scam the auction was bogus and not what BIG stands for or is it? So BIG my question to you is, is this how you run auctions? The Blue Pills Make Me Happy
Free2Fly	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:09:00 - [249] Originally by: Kantar Edited by: Kantar on 16/12/2004 03:59:14 Free2fly made a good observation there, the chat between the 2 of them fit better on the original one ( produce by Fret) then the screeny,I just ceck the screeny again and the transfer was made at 4.02 the money were in Tion wallet BUT checkin the log Tion ( when Fret say "ya i got it send the ISK") at 4.27 now if Fret ALREADY PAY IT why she would say " ya i got the char ,send the ISK ????????? 25 minute later she/he forgot that already deposit the 750 mil is his account?? hmmmm I think you just proved Tion is the scammer here! Look at the time stamp on the screenshot of when the money was transfered FROM TION to AXEE. It is done at 04:15 Look at the time stamp on the log where Fret supposedly said, 'ya I got the char send the isk'. It is at 04:21!!! So Tion sent the isk SIX MINUTES BEFORE Fret supposedly said he got the character!!! Yet TornSoul states that Tion only sent the ISK because he was given the go ahead per the screenshot as proof. Bull. Either Tion is scamming Fret and lying to BIG about it, or Fret's allegations about BIG corruption have some substance.
Free2Fly	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:09:00 - [250] Originally by: Kantar Edited by: Kantar on 16/12/2004 03:59:14 Free2fly made a good observation there, the chat between the 2 of them fit better on the original one ( produce by Fret) then the screeny,I just ceck the screeny again and the transfer was made at 4.02 the money were in Tion wallet BUT checkin the log Tion ( when Fret say "ya i got it send the ISK") at 4.27 now if Fret ALREADY PAY IT why she would say " ya i got the char ,send the ISK ????????? 25 minute later she/he forgot that already deposit the 750 mil is his account?? hmmmm I think you just proved Tion is the scammer here! Look at the time stamp on the screenshot of when the money was transfered FROM TION to AXEE. It is done at 04:15 Look at the time stamp on the log where Fret supposedly said, 'ya I got the char send the isk'. It is at 04:21!!! So Tion sent the isk SIX MINUTES BEFORE Fret supposedly said he got the character!!! Yet TornSoul states that Tion only sent the ISK because he was given the go ahead per the screenshot as proof. Bull. Either Tion is scamming Fret and lying to BIG about it, or Fret's allegations about BIG corruption have some substance.
Fret	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:11:00 - [251] Edited by: Fret on 16/12/2004 04:12:13 the reason why i feel BIG is responsible is because this was a BIG sanctioned auction... Blessed by tornsoul herself. The way i see it, if one of thier guys scamed someone using the BIG name...shouldnt they feel somewhat responsible? axee i believe is probly tion's alt. "A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception." Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
Fret	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:11:00 - [252] Edited by: Fret on 16/12/2004 04:12:13 the reason why i feel BIG is responsible is because this was a BIG sanctioned auction... Blessed by tornsoul herself. The way i see it, if one of thier guys scamed someone using the BIG name...shouldnt they feel somewhat responsible? axee i believe is probly tion's alt. "A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception." Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
Lord Byron	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:27:00 - [253] Originally by: Duncan Originally by: Lord Byron DAMN , what a PR I would gladly pay 1 BILL. for such a "scam". LB check your mailbox, i've got a "character" i want to auction off Mind beeing the middleman??? Only if it¦s the character of your friend¦s friend N.A.G.A Corp \| NeoCom Site Lord Byron - Burnt Head Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares
Lord Byron	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:27:00 - [254] Originally by: Duncan Originally by: Lord Byron DAMN , what a PR I would gladly pay 1 BILL. for such a "scam". LB check your mailbox, i've got a "character" i want to auction off Mind beeing the middleman??? Only if it¦s the character of your friend¦s friend N.A.G.A Corp \| NeoCom Site Lord Byron - Burnt Head Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares
LordIdaho	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:28:00 - [255] Has anyone ever considered that they're not going to such lengths for the measely 750 million, but rather, to protect the reprehensible actions of a rogue actions, or a cowardly fear to owe up to a mistake? ISK isn't such a big issue to a corporation like BIG; image and pride definitely is. I can only say, BIG has lost ALL my trust and I'll be spreading the word any way I can. Stick with NAGA; they have always worked well with me, and they'll never scam as a small corp. Out.
LordIdaho	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:28:00 - [256] Has anyone ever considered that they're not going to such lengths for the measely 750 million, but rather, to protect the reprehensible actions of a rogue actions, or a cowardly fear to owe up to a mistake? ISK isn't such a big issue to a corporation like BIG; image and pride definitely is. I can only say, BIG has lost ALL my trust and I'll be spreading the word any way I can. Stick with NAGA; they have always worked well with me, and they'll never scam as a small corp. Out.
ariannee	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:30:00 - [257] all logs and all screenshots can be faked.. until CCP steps in and tells the truth, its just going to go back and forth.. if fret is telling the truth then axee and his friend went through the trouble of faking everything if fret is lying then its a good scam attempt busted by one simple screenshot what ccp needs to do is to provide a trade agreement via the website, where the seller can send a trade window type thing and the buyer upon agreeing to the contract would have the isk and character automatically sent to each party. otherwise ccp has to step in each time for cases like these to clear the air, or everyone will be put off on doing 3rd party support
ariannee	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:30:00 - [258] all logs and all screenshots can be faked.. until CCP steps in and tells the truth, its just going to go back and forth.. if fret is telling the truth then axee and his friend went through the trouble of faking everything if fret is lying then its a good scam attempt busted by one simple screenshot what ccp needs to do is to provide a trade agreement via the website, where the seller can send a trade window type thing and the buyer upon agreeing to the contract would have the isk and character automatically sent to each party. otherwise ccp has to step in each time for cases like these to clear the air, or everyone will be put off on doing 3rd party support
Caesium	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:39:00 - [259] shouldn't someone have a bill of some sort from ccp for the char xfer cost?
Caesium	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:39:00 - [260] shouldn't someone have a bill of some sort from ccp for the char xfer cost?
Lord Byron	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:45:00 - [261] Originally by: Caesium shouldn't someone have a bill of some sort from ccp for the char xfer cost? Yes, the seller, who never showedup, should have one. Now let us hope we see a faked CCP bill... this would be fraud and will allow CCP to take legal action .... this is a thriller guys N.A.G.A Corp \| NeoCom Site Lord Byron - Burnt Head Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares
Lord Byron	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:45:00 - [262] Originally by: Caesium shouldn't someone have a bill of some sort from ccp for the char xfer cost? Yes, the seller, who never showedup, should have one. Now let us hope we see a faked CCP bill... this would be fraud and will allow CCP to take legal action .... this is a thriller guys N.A.G.A Corp \| NeoCom Site Lord Byron - Burnt Head Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares
Rthor	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:53:00 - [263] we could also have a.....murder of Axee... come on give us what we want!!!!
Rthor	Posted - 2004.12.16 04:53:00 - [264] we could also have a.....murder of Axee... come on give us what we want!!!!
Fret	Posted - 2004.12.16 05:07:00 - [265] yes good point...id love to see a receipt axee, however i can guarantee that one cant be produced...because there was never a transfer "A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception." Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
Fret	Posted - 2004.12.16 05:07:00 - [266] yes good point...id love to see a receipt axee, however i can guarantee that one cant be produced...because there was never a transfer "A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception." Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
Falhofnir	Posted - 2004.12.16 05:11:00 - [267] tbh, tion looks like the scammer in this story. the first fishy part is how he first wants to act as the middleman with a char NOT being tion nor in BIG (evanthe or whatever). Quote: [ 2004.12.11 03:55:56 ] Evanthe > I don't have much time before work... other wise I'd stop and switch. ;-) and Quote: [ 2004.12.11 03:57:15 ] Evanthe > well we can wait till I dock? [ 2004.12.11 03:57:44 ] Evanthe > 40 more jumps lol just don't go really well together, and i just don't see anyone forgeing that kind of proof on purpose. the 6 mins between chatlog and cash transfer just adds to that theory. axee=tion=scammer. oh yeah, btw, check first page, axee and tion grammar are to say the least, VERY similar. imo, it's just tion trying to scam away. hence the fact he wasn't mentioned in the first post by axee, but had to come up with something after tornsoul was made aware of the auction and the use of BIG name. i don't intend to blame BIG as a corp, i perfectly understand that tornsoul would rather believe his corpmate than a perfect stranger, and is probably truely believing Tion's side of the story. i say, put GM Columbo on the case ! This was btw a shameful attempt to be part of eve scamadrama #2 (since i never gave money to morbor), and hmm, yeah, i have psychic power, so expect me to be right.
Falhofnir	Posted - 2004.12.16 05:11:00 - [268] tbh, tion looks like the scammer in this story. the first fishy part is how he first wants to act as the middleman with a char NOT being tion nor in BIG (evanthe or whatever). Quote: [ 2004.12.11 03:55:56 ] Evanthe > I don't have much time before work... other wise I'd stop and switch. ;-) and Quote: [ 2004.12.11 03:57:15 ] Evanthe > well we can wait till I dock? [ 2004.12.11 03:57:44 ] Evanthe > 40 more jumps lol just don't go really well together, and i just don't see anyone forgeing that kind of proof on purpose. the 6 mins between chatlog and cash transfer just adds to that theory. axee=tion=scammer. oh yeah, btw, check first page, axee and tion grammar are to say the least, VERY similar. imo, it's just tion trying to scam away. hence the fact he wasn't mentioned in the first post by axee, but had to come up with something after tornsoul was made aware of the auction and the use of BIG name. i don't intend to blame BIG as a corp, i perfectly understand that tornsoul would rather believe his corpmate than a perfect stranger, and is probably truely believing Tion's side of the story. i say, put GM Columbo on the case ! This was btw a shameful attempt to be part of eve scamadrama #2 (since i never gave money to morbor), and hmm, yeah, i have psychic power, so expect me to be right.
Nike	Posted - 2004.12.16 05:35:00 - [269] Edited by: Nike on 16/12/2004 05:36:56 Originally by: Falhofnir tbh, tion looks like the scammer in this story. the first fishy part is how he first wants to act as the middleman with a char NOT being tion nor in BIG (evanthe or whatever). Quote: [ 2004.12.11 03:55:56 ] Evanthe > I don't have much time before work... other wise I'd stop and switch. ;-) and Quote: [ 2004.12.11 03:57:15 ] Evanthe > well we can wait till I dock? [ 2004.12.11 03:57:44 ] Evanthe > 40 more jumps lol just don't go really well together, and i just don't see anyone forgeing that kind of proof on purpose. the 6 mins between chatlog and cash transfer just adds to that theory. axee=tion=scammer. oh yeah, btw, check first page, axee and tion grammar are to say the least, VERY similar. imo, it's just tion trying to scam away. hence the fact he wasn't mentioned in the first post by axee, but had to come up with something after tornsoul was made aware of the auction and the use of BIG name. i don't intend to blame BIG as a corp, i perfectly understand that tornsoul would rather believe his corpmate than a perfect stranger, and is probably truely believing Tion's side of the story. i say, put GM Columbo on the case ! This was btw a shameful attempt to be part of eve scamadrama #2 (since i never gave money to morbor), and hmm, yeah, i have psychic power, so expect me to be right. Actually these observations, and the following Statement by Mammy Quote: Originally by: Maya Rkell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: Maya Rkell on 16/12/2004 02:07:55 Regardless of how this ends up, it wasn't handled well by the BIG member. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indeed it wasn't. The BIG member that handled this is a walking disaster. I've been in a corp with him and he's had his account "borrowed" by his "friends" before while he's on "vacation" and yet he sees no problem that he has just left his corp wide open for corp theft from his supposed "friends". He got another one of his "friends" into the same corp as I was. He later admitted this guy was only looking to steal from the corp. Totally not impressed by this guy. I see from his corp history that he was in BIG before. Why they would let someone of his caliber not once but twice into their corp is beyond me. Makes things further interesting. TornSoul and thus BIG are also victims in a very well planned scam.
Nike	Posted - 2004.12.16 05:35:00 - [270] Edited by: Nike on 16/12/2004 05:36:56 Originally by: Falhofnir tbh, tion looks like the scammer in this story. the first fishy part is how he first wants to act as the middleman with a char NOT being tion nor in BIG (evanthe or whatever). Quote: [ 2004.12.11 03:55:56 ] Evanthe > I don't have much time before work... other wise I'd stop and switch. ;-) and Quote: [ 2004.12.11 03:57:15 ] Evanthe > well we can wait till I dock? [ 2004.12.11 03:57:44 ] Evanthe > 40 more jumps lol just don't go really well together, and i just don't see anyone forgeing that kind of proof on purpose. the 6 mins between chatlog and cash transfer just adds to that theory. axee=tion=scammer. oh yeah, btw, check first page, axee and tion grammar are to say the least, VERY similar. imo, it's just tion trying to scam away. hence the fact he wasn't mentioned in the first post by axee, but had to come up with something after tornsoul was made aware of the auction and the use of BIG name. i don't intend to blame BIG as a corp, i perfectly understand that tornsoul would rather believe his corpmate than a perfect stranger, and is probably truely believing Tion's side of the story. i say, put GM Columbo on the case ! This was btw a shameful attempt to be part of eve scamadrama #2 (since i never gave money to morbor), and hmm, yeah, i have psychic power, so expect me to be right. Actually these observations, and the following Statement by Mammy Quote: Originally by: Maya Rkell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: Maya Rkell on 16/12/2004 02:07:55 Regardless of how this ends up, it wasn't handled well by the BIG member. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indeed it wasn't. The BIG member that handled this is a walking disaster. I've been in a corp with him and he's had his account "borrowed" by his "friends" before while he's on "vacation" and yet he sees no problem that he has just left his corp wide open for corp theft from his supposed "friends". He got another one of his "friends" into the same corp as I was. He later admitted this guy was only looking to steal from the corp. Totally not impressed by this guy. I see from his corp history that he was in BIG before. Why they would let someone of his caliber not once but twice into their corp is beyond me. Makes things further interesting. TornSoul and thus BIG are also victims in a very well planned scam.

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