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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:12:00 -
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How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.
As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion. -
"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:12:00 -
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How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.
As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion. -
"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:12:00 -
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now im going to ask - HOW hard was it to introduce thees changes... err 3 MONTHs earlier?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:12:00 -
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now im going to ask - HOW hard was it to introduce thees changes... err 3 MONTHs earlier?
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JoKane
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:16:00 -
[35]
I want what he¦s smoking.
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JoKane
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:16:00 -
[36]
I want what he¦s smoking.
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:21:00 -
[37]
It's good to have a Minmatar Dev playing with Minmatar guns
If this happens I might leave the Ammatar way of life and go back to the Matari one.
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:21:00 -
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It's good to have a Minmatar Dev playing with Minmatar guns
If this happens I might leave the Ammatar way of life and go back to the Matari one.
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KompleX
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.
As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.
Slow down there! I say tracking to both parts. I can hit frigates with 220MM now, and I like it.
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KompleX
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.
As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.
Slow down there! I say tracking to both parts. I can hit frigates with 220MM now, and I like it.
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Ultrabug
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:33:36 Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:32:18
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.
As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.
I agree, 1400 suffer more of the tracking and RoF than damage imo ! Inverted stats would make more sense to me but wouldn't be enough.
Lasers get all the benefits : tracking + RoF + NO AMMO CHANGING TIME. How can you imagine such little changes will balance that ? Why doing more damage if you can't get a hit ??? 
EDIT : added ammo changing time ! Lasers should have less RoF to balance the reloading time of other turrets....... |

Ultrabug
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:33:36 Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:32:18
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.
As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.
I agree, 1400 suffer more of the tracking and RoF than damage imo ! Inverted stats would make more sense to me but wouldn't be enough.
Lasers get all the benefits : tracking + RoF + NO AMMO CHANGING TIME. How can you imagine such little changes will balance that ? Why doing more damage if you can't get a hit ??? 
EDIT : added ammo changing time ! Lasers should have less RoF to balance the reloading time of other turrets....... |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:33:00 -
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Can we fix the blinking lights too? They can get way too hypnotic when your enjoying the good grass 
Turn your lights down low, and close the window curtain
Yeah man
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:33:00 -
[44]
Can we fix the blinking lights too? They can get way too hypnotic when your enjoying the good grass 
Turn your lights down low, and close the window curtain
Yeah man
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

pardux
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:34:00 -
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pardux
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:34:00 -
[46]
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:39:00 -
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o yeah jammin! Wub the changes -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:39:00 -
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o yeah jammin! Wub the changes -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:43:00 -
[49]
Please reply constructively
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:43:00 -
[50]
Please reply constructively
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:44:00 -
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it would have been better if you had given 15% more dmg to autocannons and 20% more tracking to artillerys... now 4x 280mm techII on a wolf with maximized skills = 1 frig boom in one volley
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:44:00 -
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it would have been better if you had given 15% more dmg to autocannons and 20% more tracking to artillerys... now 4x 280mm techII on a wolf with maximized skills = 1 frig boom in one volley
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:44:00 -
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were getting on a good way 
now nerf geddons damage and we can talk about balanced ships Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:44:00 -
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were getting on a good way 
now nerf geddons damage and we can talk about balanced ships Wanna fly with me?
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dred 'Morte it would have been better if you had given 15% more dmg to autocannons and 20% more tracking to artillerys
yes, maybe that would be a VERY nice solution. 
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dred 'Morte it would have been better if you had given 15% more dmg to autocannons and 20% more tracking to artillerys
yes, maybe that would be a VERY nice solution. 
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DarkMatters
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:50:50 Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:50:09 Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:49:26
Originally by: Ultrabug Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:33:36 Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:32:18
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.
As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.
I agree, 1400 suffer more of the tracking and RoF than damage imo ! Inverted stats would make more sense to me but wouldn't be enough.
Lasers get all the benefits : tracking + RoF + NO AMMO CHANGING TIME. How can you imagine such little changes will balance that ? Why doing more damage if you can't get a hit ??? Rolling Eyes
lasers went from rubbish ( all amarr ships fitting hybrids) to good with a single 5% per ship lvl decrease in cap use. this was because other turrets types simply out damaged lasers for the use of less cap leaving no point in fitting them.
the changes suggested are between 15%-20% of diffrent attributes, would it not be better to fully test these increase before nerfing lasers?
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DarkMatters
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:50:50 Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:50:09 Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:49:26
Originally by: Ultrabug Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:33:36 Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:32:18
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.
As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.
I agree, 1400 suffer more of the tracking and RoF than damage imo ! Inverted stats would make more sense to me but wouldn't be enough.
Lasers get all the benefits : tracking + RoF + NO AMMO CHANGING TIME. How can you imagine such little changes will balance that ? Why doing more damage if you can't get a hit ??? Rolling Eyes
lasers went from rubbish ( all amarr ships fitting hybrids) to good with a single 5% per ship lvl decrease in cap use. this was because other turrets types simply out damaged lasers for the use of less cap leaving no point in fitting them.
the changes suggested are between 15%-20% of diffrent attributes, would it not be better to fully test these increase before nerfing lasers?
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:49:00 -
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nah the original change is good, autocannons miss a hell of a lot.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |

Hakera
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Posted - 2004.12.21 16:49:00 -
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nah the original change is good, autocannons miss a hell of a lot.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |
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