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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.18 05:01:00 -
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Vizvig wrote:May be we need also special officer pod stopping disruptor, this prevents automatically tackle pod after explosion with chance 33 (officer) And gang link increase it to 75% Make the blob suffer, hahahaha.    You mean.. a bubble that only works on pods?
What happens if your small gang is attacked by 10 small gangs?
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Sentamon
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Posted - 2012.08.18 05:29:00 -
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Vizvig wrote:I think small gangs need more powerful weapon against blobtards.
The only thing that will ever help is LoS checks, everything else helps the blobs even more. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1696
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Posted - 2012.08.18 08:02:00 -
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You see, this sort of stuff keeps subs down. Looks like a scam. I can explain...
"You need a alt scout to - insert travel activity in kill-everything-that-moves-for-no-reason-land here". "In order to have what you need without having to pay a lot of ISK, you need an indy alt". "PVP does not pay well, but if you don't PVP, then you are the lowest form or carebear scum who should go back to WOW. But you still need a carebear alt to grind lvl 4 in high sec to pay for it all."
Ok so we are up to 4 accounts, scout alt, indy alt, carebear alt or if the carebear is the main, a "PVP alt".
Oh, but there appears to be a need for an OGB alt too.
And if you don't have one, you lose. And if you lose, your KB won't look good, and your pee pee will get smaller. (at least everybody acts like it does)
Looks like a scam: "To play EvE, you need at least 4 accounts, maybe 5. That's 60 to 75 dollars a month, or grinding Incursions".
To play in the past you had how many accounts?
So CCP will suffer because people are going to rage-unsub their OGB alts?
I think it's already suffering because people see a game where you can play with one account, and be the ass that gets kicked, but he who has the money for 4-5X the amount or some means of paying the rent and playing every day get to be the boot that does the kicking. if you want to be the boot too, you gotta pay more.
That's almost as bad as Pay To Win. People see it that way, and say to hell with it. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1871
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Posted - 2012.08.18 09:08:00 -
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Lumi Onren wrote:One thing to note is how prevalent off grid T3 boosters have become in low sec lately. Especially in FW areas and regions like Molden Heath which have been known for solo and small gang activities. More and more pilots seem to be using them to "1v1", which just seems wrong... honestly I doubt the current situation regarding boosters is good for long term health of the game
The first sign of something wrong or overpowered is when everybody starts using it else they can't compete any more.
Sure it brings in short term additional subs money to CCP but it's bad in the long term, as EvE becomes just another rigged P2W wannabe PvP game. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Halcyon Ingenium
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
168
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Posted - 2012.08.18 09:19:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Do you have enough rifters to keep on fighting?
No, we are now completely destitute, because Makalu, in his infinite wisdom, saw our great weakness, and has ordered the primary of rifters ever since. We are now all out. Now would be the perfect time for -A- to drop more supers in our home system.
They say that in learning the game Go, it is best to lose your first 50 games as soon as possible. This is because Go is complex, and the only way you will start to get an idea of strategy and play is by first sucking and failing as hard as you can. So...In EVE, it is best to get your first 50 deaths by combat as soon as possible. |

Solomunio Kzenig
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2012.08.18 10:25:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote: CCP isn't dumb and recognizes this.
I actually soiled my pants at this comment, Gé¼Gé¼P's history of making monumentally stoopid game breaking changes and causing players to rage quit is legendary (I could list them but I'd probably be at retirement age by the time I was finished), dude the Incarna Custerf&*k is only a few months ago, remember?
Anyways OGB's are a touchy subject, probably the fairest nerf would be to make them less powerful than on grid boosting, and definately remove the ability to boost from a POS. The OP's idea about restricting the ammount of playes the OGB can boost is actualy quite a good idea, but make it 10 players (1 squad) as opposed to 5 players.
Edit: oh and Liang's idea's are OFC the best here and the most sensible I've heard, therefore no chance in hell that Gé¼Gé¼P will actuallly adopt them  |

Vizvig
Savage Blizzard Bora Alis
8
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Posted - 2012.08.18 11:39:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:everything else helps the blobs even more. Some people want pay money for IWIN button, i try to explain it. |

Max Khaos
PSK Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.18 12:01:00 -
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Remove OGB for all apart from the Rorqual which by design is meant to be sitting in a POS crunching "whatever" giving boosts while unable to move, ------------- Insert Goon Tears Here ------------- |

Antisocial Malkavian
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Posted - 2012.08.18 13:56:00 -
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So is it JUST combat boosting theyre talking about or Orca too cause the only ppl I see QQing about it are combat ppl http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |

Lili Lu
344
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Posted - 2012.08.18 14:39:00 -
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Whar Target wrote:In a game that is all about those with the most isk/resources/numbers having an advantage, how can anyone feel system wide fleet boosts don't somehow fit into that?
If they force boosters on grid there will be many people with suddenly useless alts. I would probably be down from 3 accounts to one at that point. As for solo/small gang stuff, people will just go back to bringing falcon alts everywhere. Then we'll be back to people crying about ECM again, and how it's unfair, ruins the game etc etc..
It all comes down to people too lazy/unresourceful to get their own, crying to have the others taken away
By the way, will this nerf the titan fleet bonus as well? Force a titan on grid for it's shield/armor bonus lol..
Sorry, I haven't read the rest of this thread but you post was too juicy to pass up.
In short, you could just make your former tech III booster alts posting alts. Because it would be too hard to make them honorable command ship pilots, or something else useful like the probing alts you think everyone should make to find the eccm'd ss'd tech III boosting alts.
As for your statment on titans. YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! TITAN NEAR TO DIE!!!! |
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Lili Lu
344
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Posted - 2012.08.18 15:02:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Cyrek Ohaya wrote: -Entitlement over "I spent over a year training this alt, of course I deserve to be superior".
Thats how the entire game works. You spend a long time training and you are rewarded. Oh I see, so you really do support having command ships be the boosting ships because training a command ship pilot takes longer than a tech III pilot. But oh darn no bubble immune and eccm ss-ing the command ship. 
These threads make me laugh. All the dev statments are and have been that off-grid boosting was never working as intended. The game is about putting your ships at risk or into a battle, not having them somewhere accross the solar system safe while having an effect on the outcome of a fight or mining op. People can stomp their feet here all they like. But it is unlikely to make daddy change his mind about taking away the candy.
As for the mining folks. An orca in a belt is just as fine as command ships and tech IIIs in a fight. As for Rorqual and Titan boosts and being off-grid I have little sympathy. Certainly we have too many titans in-game now and more need to die. I don't see how it should be any different for the Rorquals. Think of the demand not just the supply  |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2417
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Posted - 2012.08.18 15:04:00 -
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Halcyon Ingenium wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Do you have enough rifters to keep on fighting? No, we are now completely destitute, because Makalu, in his infinite wisdom, saw our great weakness, and has ordered the primary of rifters ever since. We are now all out. Now would be the perfect time for -A- to drop more supers in our home system. Maybe they need to buff Makalu, given the current power imbalance? 
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Solj RichPopolous
Mentally Assured Destruction Northern Strike
9
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Posted - 2012.08.18 23:15:00 -
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Ugh these threads. They never stop. Nerf ogb or dont. I use boosters exclusively becausei tend to fight solo against blobs of nubs. Think 1 vs 30+. Anyways my booster is neutral which is great for high sec. I guess most people are talking about null or low which i dont care about. Low is fun, null is full of retards who only know how to aapproach and press f1. No ability to adapt or quit using ****** ships (BCs). But i like eve players either lack of knowledge or either poorness to adapt to situation . It keeps me on top.
Because of all the fuss i have started training for a command ship for my loki booster tho. If you think they are a prob now wait until you have a 100mn command ship zipping around at 2-3km/s 400km from a fight. Enjoy probing that when you land he will be out of range yet again. |

Lili Lu
346
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Posted - 2012.08.18 23:27:00 -
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Solj RichPopolous wrote: Because of all the fuss i have started training for a command ship for my loki booster tho. If you think they are a prob now wait until you have a 100mn command ship zipping around at 2-3km/s 400km from a fight. Enjoy probing that when you land he will be out of range yet again. There you go. Adapting. Eve player ingenuity at work. Although don't put all your eggs in the oversized afterburner basket either as it could get nerfed
We don't need 20 pages of people upset and hoping against hope to convince CCP that a near unprobable (and for a while was unprobable) boosting ship 50 au away is good for the game. They've been saying for years, even before the tech IIIs, that they didn't like off-grid boosting (which at the time was only a pos'd up command ship). The game is about risking your ship in a battle and the thrill that provides. If you want an alt to have a part in the battle, it will be doing the same. Dual boxing in the battle is a challenge, and doubly a thrill. Many people have been doing it for years. |

Solj RichPopolous
Mentally Assured Destruction Northern Strike
9
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Posted - 2012.08.18 23:49:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:Solj RichPopolous wrote: Because of all the fuss i have started training for a command ship for my loki booster tho. If you think they are a prob now wait until you have a 100mn command ship zipping around at 2-3km/s 400km from a fight. Enjoy probing that when you land he will be out of range yet again. There you go. Adapting.  Eve player ingenuity at work. Although don't put all your eggs in the oversized afterburner basket either as it could get nerfed  We don't need 20 pages of people upset and hoping against hope to convince CCP that a near unprobable (and for a while was unprobable) boosting ship 50 au away is good for the game. They've been saying for years, even before the tech IIIs, that they didn't like off-grid boosting (which at the time was only a pos'd up command ship). The game is about risking your ship in a battle and the thrill that provides. If you want an alt to have a part in the battle, it will be doing the same. Dual boxing in the battle is a challenge, and doubly a thrill.  Many people have been doing it for years.
I hope they dont nerf oversize ABing its been in game since the beginning its just t3s that reallybrought a spotlight to it . Also its the only thing that gives you workable speed in a combat situation. Plus no sig radius penalty is key. As of now fitting ABs are ******** they dont give enough speed and have no bonus vs webs. Which is what they will need to be viable should this get nerfed. Dont get me wrong i can still get a gistum a 10mn to 2+km/s but id rather not take that route. If they implement a bonus for ABs having a reduction on web % in conjunction with an oversized AB nerf that would be fun and interesting. |

Recoil IV
Knights of the Posing Meat
13
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:28:00 -
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Max Khaos wrote:Remove OGB for all apart from the Rorqual which by design is meant to be sitting in a POS crunching "whatever" giving boosts while unable to move,
:))
anyway.ccp.destryoing pvp,a little,each day |

Recoil IV
Knights of the Posing Meat
13
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:37:00 -
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and yes,what will happen to eve is exacly what happened to wow.
people complain,stuff got nerfed,then blizzard didint stopped until they nerfed eveything.
now wow is just a memory,and nobody plays anymore |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:46:00 -
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Recoil IV wrote:and yes,what will happen to eve is exacly what happened to wow.
people complain,stuff got nerfed,then blizzard didint stopped until they nerfed eveything.
now wow is just a memory,and nobody plays anymore
Complaining is irrelevant. It's just volume, that only matters in putting weight behind the actual arguments between the different sides. What really matters is those arguments and your ability to argue reasonably for or against any change to the mechanic. If all you manage to do is spout vague fearmongering in response to the arguments of your opponents, expect to lose the argument and CCP to side with your opposition. |

Recoil IV
Knights of the Posing Meat
13
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Posted - 2012.08.20 18:10:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Recoil IV wrote:and yes,what will happen to eve is exacly what happened to wow.
people complain,stuff got nerfed,then blizzard didint stopped until they nerfed eveything.
now wow is just a memory,and nobody plays anymore Complaining is irrelevant. It's just volume, that only matters in putting weight behind the actual arguments between the different sides. What really matters is those arguments and your ability to argue reasonably for or against any change to the mechanic. If all you manage to do is spout vague fearmongering in response to the arguments of your opponents, expect to lose the argument and CCP to side with your opposition.
everyone knows what happen with wow,so what i said above is actualy the best arguement i ever need anyway. |
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