A lot of thinking and decisions making at CCP's place from someone thinking he matters

Alot of people whining about off grid boosters being OP and unfair, even though they have been around for a very long time.

I don't think CCP is ready to pull the plug on off grid boosting, because the fact of the matter is ... There many accounts being plexed and paid for just so they can provide the boosts.

CCP is a business afterall and it isn't good for business to be making changes that will reduce their income. I for one don't really feel too strongly how this matter is resolved, but I will unsub my OGB toon if they remove off grid boosting. Thats $15 a month less income for CCP. I'm sure many other OGB alt owners feel the same.



I have a reasonable solution though.

If I worked at CCP I would do the following:

1. No boosting inside a POS bubble (this is just downright unfair)

2. T3s can only boost for around 5 pilots or so, limiting their use to small gangs only. Buff to small gang warfare, which is never a bad thing. Unless you are a blobbing noob.

3. Fleet Command ships keep their 3% bonus, but also can give bonuses to the entire fleet. Maybe even buff their survivability a bit.


POS whiners are happy, Small gangs are happy, and command ship pilots can perform their role without T3s getting in the way. Unsubs are minimal, and gameplay/balance/whatever is fixed.

Bad posters dont recognize that the entire cluster is the battlefield and if a booster at a POS is a problem for you its due to you not having the imagination, intellect, willpower or resources to deal with it.

OP is totally right. Remember how CCP never nerfed Falcon range and so everyone still has a Falcon alt?



Long-term game balance is far more important for CCP's bottom line than short-term alt subscriptions. CCP isn't dumb and recognizes this. Off-grid boosting is going to be removed and yes, your alt is going to become useless.

Well, you are wrong. Leadership skills would become more valuable since demand would increase by a lot. I am not knocking your ideas or anything but just knocking that part of your argument because it is wrong.

edit; actually, I would knock on your suggestions too if I had the time.

thats not a hard fix.

make it so links only effect ships on grid with them, and they cant be activated inside a pos bubble, and buff the warfare processor sub on tech 3s so they have a comparable or better tank than a CS. If you fit a proper tank to a CS they are already pretty damn hard to kill if you have enough logi to keep them alive.

You mean like they won't ban bots, since they're paying customers or they won't nerf datacore farming, since many people had datacore farming alt accounts and it had been around for a very long time? I'm sorry but your 15 dollars aren't any more important than anyone elses and if you think it buys you a nerf shield, you're delusional. CCP is making the best game they think they can and occasionally changing things just to keep the game interesting. Threats of account cancelation are heard with every major change to the game and are ignored unless they reach massive numbers. On the other hand well constructed counter arguments can change their minds every time.

They need to swap the bonuses for the tech 3 and commandship. Tech 2 is supposed to specialize, while tech 3 is supposed to be generalized (so under this assumption vulture>tengu, but that's not the case). I trained for a vulture on my main but I decided to say f*ck that and got my alt into a tengu.

If you made this change it would really hurt tech 3 cruiser boosting and buff commandship boosting. Also, I want to fly my vulture again.

Stop dreaming, eventually stop taking those things getting you high it might help to face reality: off grid boosting is going to change, and those changes you will not like them doesn't matter how much you dream.

Be reasonable, be a big boy and stop complaining.

I like your ideas, but your premise that CCP wont do anything about the problem is flawed. Or have you forgotten the 1500+ (I'm not sure what the current number is) of RMT accounts that have been banned. So, it is NOT a money issue, more likely a resource issue. I am sure they would love to fix this along with all the other things they have already fixed and are continuing to fix. It might make it into the upcoming patches, who knows.

I don't think CCP is ready to pull the plug on off grid boosting, because the fact of the matter is ... There many accounts being plexed and paid for just so they can provide the boosts.

Well, hopefully CCP realizes that this makes their "player base" (in quotes, as it's often one guy with 10 alts) very fragile.

If that one guy quits, for whatever reason - work, family, illness, loss of interest, better game, etc - they will lose not one account, but ten. If this happened on a large enough scale - like in case of a better game - the population could collapse to unsustainable level virtually overnight.

I mean, we're being given numbers like 450 subscriptions. Does that mean 450k unique individuals? Probably not. It likely means 450k paid/PLEXed accounts. Suppose an average EVE player has 3 accounts. Which I think is not too far from the truth. That means there's only 150k actual players. That's a pretty tiny and fragile population, as the Incarnageddon dip last year showed. It could easily fall 10% or more at the drop of a hat.

In other words, if CCP are smart, they will change game mechanics to encourage MORE PEOPLE, not more accounts. Current off-grid passive boosting encourages more accounts. Which in turns drives away people. I myself am pretty unhappy with being handicapped unless I use an alt account to boost myself. It's not enough to make me quit yet, but in the back of my mind it's yet another minus against EVE. Which I feel is a huge mistake.

More people is always better than more accounts.

Eh, i hate small gang off-grid boosting more than anything.

Umm... Why it's so difficult to just train CS5?