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CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.19 19:56:00 - [1] CCP Caedmon's new dev blog covers the new character creator and a chance to recustomize your character. To read the full blog click here. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Nirnaeth Ornoediad Caldari Cryo Innovations Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.01.19 19:59:00 - [2] Definitely appreciate the ability to re-customize in the future, even if such a feature is several months away. --------------------------------------------- U.S. Diplomat Cryo Innovations
Jack Paladin Solar Storm Sev3rance	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:07:00 - [3] Thanks CCP ... keep up the good work :)
Midas Man Caldari Dzark Innovations	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:07:00 - [4] Brilliant. Buy everyone @ CCP a drink. You can withdraw the ISK from my wallet, I hear its more valuable than the rl isk
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:10:00 - [5] Edited by: Tippia on 19/01/2011 20:15:50 One thing: In this image, you're still missing a critical problem that makes the creation process needlessly obtuse. That snapshot in the dialogue box needs to be much* larger. Why not use the full-res local render that the camera creates? It already exists, and we can already get at it by skipping out of the client, so why not use it? Why use a far too small* snapshot that doesn't tell you what the result actually looks like? If that means blowing the dialogue up over half of people's screens, so be it. That's infinitely better than giving them a tiny, featureless, detail-less, lossy-reduced image¦ (and the render is only 512+512px, so you'd have to be on a veeeeery tiny screen to have it become too large to show). ¦ The reason I describe it as such is because I have a gut feeling that the snapshot used in that image is the full-res image, scaled down to become a thumbnail, which would mean you're actually doing more work for far less usability and effectiveness. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
skye orionis	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:14:00 - [6] Confirmation Image needs to be larger - use the 512 pixel version, the avatar on my client appears with her eyes closed, but this was impossible to see in the snapshots.
Lady Naween	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:17:00 - [7] It would be nice if we could also see what the avatar will look like in the smaller portraits, my alt (this one) looked great in the large fullscreen but the tiny icon in say chat and local looks messy since the background and the hair melds together poorly.
Mistress Valkyrie	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:17:00 - [8] Question: Say that some lazy dude (or someone who is just otherwise offline for the time being) doesn't create a new avatar at all until the time runs out, what happens? Will you get a randomized character? Will you be forced to enter the character creator next logon? What happens if you abort the creation? do you still get logged in or do you get thrown out?
Kuan Yida Minmatar Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:22:00 - [9] When we re-customize, will this be starting from scratch, or using the avatar we worked so hard to create? http://kuanyida.tumblr.com/
Xodd Hil Gallente Trucido Veritas	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:23:00 - [10] Also, in previous iterations, there was an "undo bar" at the bottom. Which was actually really helpful. Also: does "recustomization" mean I have to start from scratch, or from the existing character? (Obviously, we'd like the latter option.) 60day ETC
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:23:00 - [11] Yay! Well done :-)
Fred Munro Gallente Silicis Luguolo	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:25:00 - [12] Awesome, I could use some tweaking to my character image :D He looks a little bland :(
Mereen AFK	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:27:00 - [13] Thank you CCP! So I will be able to redo the portrait of my main (which I do not dare to show here) and hopefully create a convincing result on this one.
Akaylah Lafisques	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:30:00 - [14] Excellent news. I have another suggestion. When you are taking your portraits, You should be able to see what those portraits look like in the sizes that will be used in game. I chose a pose that looked good when looking at it in it's larger form, but it the tiny size most of us see on a regular basis it doesn't look good at all.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion RONA Directorate	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:32:00 - [15] So when you guys put in long hair for intaki you will let all intaki characters re-roll their portraits right?
Akaylah Lafisques	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:32:00 - [16] Originally by: Xodd Hil Also, in previous iterations, there was an "undo bar" at the bottom. Which was actually really helpful. Also: does "recustomization" mean I have to start from scratch, or from the existing character? (Obviously, we'd like the latter option.) According to the message I got sent in response to a petition, we will use our current portrait as a starting point. So I think that means we'll start from what we already have.
Trixie HumpsALot	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:33:00 - [17] somehow, my main ended up looking like a gay biker. Didn't look that way in the character creator, or maybe it did and it just took some time to sink in......maybe its the lighting.... Linkage
Akaylah Lafisques	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Obsidian Hawk So when you guys put in long hair for intaki you will let all intaki characters re-roll their portraits right? In a future expansion, we'll be able to customize our characters with tattoos, piercings, etc. I assume that hairstyle will be another thin we'll be able to change.
Erik Finnegan Gallente Polytechnique Gallenteenne	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:35:00 - [19] Very appropriate response. I feel embarrassed, though, not having noticed the problem. Having created a number of characters on sisi, that last step never appeared to me as problematic.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Kuan Yida When we re-customize, will this be starting from scratch, or using the avatar we worked so hard to create? From all that's been written lately it seems you'd start with your current model; though it would be nice to get a clear confirmation from CCP. ...
Akaylah Lafisques	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:47:00 - [21] Trixie - I'm jealous of your boobs! I couldn't get mine very big at all :(
riverini Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:48:00 - [22] This is good news! German Giggles riverini p.s.: IBTC
Brannoncyll	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:49:00 - [23] I agree that it would be nice to see the small portrait shown in the chat window. Although my character looks good in the larger images, his expression looks quite different at the small scale due to the shadows.
Hammering Hank Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:56:00 - [24] Is it possible to have portraits with different clothes and not just poses? I would like to compare one portrait with sunglasses and one without, one with a jacket and one without. Currently, when I change clothes, all my portraits go away. (T)Hank(s)

CCP Caedmon	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:58:00 - [25] Thanks for the feedback. I can confirm that Akaylah and Razin are right. The starting point for recustomization will be your character as you left him or her. As for the undo bar, AKA the history slider, it wasn¦t quite ready to be released. We plan to get it back into the character creator soon.

Am Loh	Posted - 2011.01.19 20:59:00 - [26] do we have to submit a petition to get a go again?
Ebisu Kami	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:07:00 - [27] Originally by: CCP Adida CCP Caedmon's new dev blog covers the new character creator and a chance to recustomize your character. To read the full blog click here. How about adding an option to change the used snapshot as and whenever one sees fit? After all, the toon is there, rendered and all. Just needs new snapshots.

CCP Caedmon	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:08:00 - [28] Originally by: Am Loh do we have to submit a petition to get a go again? No. At the point when we implement the UI changes all characters who have already completed the character customization process will automatically receive another chance to recustomize. There is no need to raise a petition.

Bagehi Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:10:00 - [29] IBC. Also, quite happy that we can have another shot at customizing the characters. This signature is useless, but it is red.
Euphoriiia	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:12:00 - [30] Perhaps before you do this, you should make sure everyone can get into the creator? I still get stuck at 'entering character creator'...
Ramos Cornelious Caldari Lonestar Distribution Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:13:00 - [31] Wow, just --- wow, this is absolutely fabulous! This clearly shows that CCP is more than willing to listen to its community, I am very pleased with the opportunity to recreate my character. I guess I'll speak for many of us (customers/community) when I say/type, Thank you, CCP!
Porama Chez	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:15:00 - [32] This new feature is really great! one thing i missed was the option of a dress... so will there be more newer clothing and more of everything or is it to much to implement? and another idea might be to let people access the whole avatar as a sneak before walking in station is introduced... have something on the side that u actually can see the whole character since u built a full body... just a wish this is
Lina Miaoke	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:17:00 - [33] Edited by: Lina Miaoke on 19/01/2011 21:20:30 Edited by: Lina Miaoke on 19/01/2011 21:19:35 Originally by: skye orionis Confirmation Image needs to be larger - use the 512 pixel version, the avatar on my client appears with her eyes closed, but this was impossible to see in the snapshots. Agreed! Looking at the snapshot on the left I didn't notice the flaws but once I checked the large portrait in this folder (Keep in mind this is Window 7 location) C:\Users\Lina\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_eve_tranquility\cache\Pictures\Portraits and noticed the flaws so I retook the snapshot until I got the one I wanted. Larger Confirmation image please!
Jim Luc Caldari Rule of Five Split Infinity.	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:34:00 - [34] Originally by: Lina Miaoke Edited by: Lina Miaoke on 19/01/2011 21:20:30 Edited by: Lina Miaoke on 19/01/2011 21:19:35 Originally by: skye orionis Confirmation Image needs to be larger - use the 512 pixel version, the avatar on my client appears with her eyes closed, but this was impossible to see in the snapshots. Agreed! Looking at the snapshot on the left I didn't notice the flaws but once I checked the large portrait in this folder (Keep in mind this is Window 7 location) C:\Users\Lina\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_eve_tranquility\cache\Pictures\Portraits and noticed the flaws so I retook the snapshot until I got the one I wanted. Larger Confirmation image please! Great workaround in the meantime! I was going to design my new upgraded self tonight, so this is good to know, thanks! I too am very pleased to hear they plan to add tattoos and future assets, and the ability to refresh your portrait at a whim, while keeping the underlying character the same (facial/body features, etc).
Dierdra Vaal	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:34:00 - [35] Quote: as we release tattoos, scars and piercings Does this cover stuff like masks and microphones too, the little gadgets we had in the old creator? * * * Director of Education :: EVE University * * * CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman
Fon Revedhort Monks of War DarkSide.	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:47:00 - [36] Will this new version fix hood bugs? I swear I didn't mean to look this way. This was the goal and that's how I look at my login screen: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DicRoNero/fon-new-real-fss.jpg I demand my hood back! ---[center] Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Chiselhead	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:48:00 - [37] No, I do not want to update my char. It was fine the way it was, its a shame your team couldn't have given a little more thought to this and allowed players to import the avatar they already had to a body that I don't need for sitting in a spaceship, yes I know this is another step in the preperation for your Ambilation, a feature I personaly don't see a need for in a spaceship game. Now the position I'm taking by refusing to update any of my characters on all of my accounts is this, I'm so tired of features in this game that I keep growing to like that keep getting destroyed in some part by your dev teams, so lets put them up for an example, in the time I've played I saw the speed nerf, and yes some people besides me are still none to pleased with that nerf, then the mess your team made of exploration, I still don't like it the way it is now, then you offered PI and then your team reduced my production in this by a whopping 66.6%, and I could go on about the features that have so screwed up that at least for me I feel I have no better choice to make but say NO. Let us import our old faces surley this is in the realm of possibilties, Good luck.
Turelus 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:55:00 - [38] Very nice patch, sure going to make a lot of people happy. Will the "future updates" add more hair colours? Caldari Deteis still need to have access to black hair (something they had before the update and in previous versions of the CC) While they may now be a bloodline with lighter hairs I'm sure somewhere you can buy black #1 hair dye.
Aeo IV Amarr Oneironautics Research Institute	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:01:00 - [39] Sounds like a good idea, but I'd like to see at least a few devs devoted full time to producing assets for each new expansion, maybe even implants that when plugged in give you access to new implant pieces.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:02:00 - [40] Edited by: Iraherag on 19/01/2011 22:02:19 Originally by: Ramos Cornelious This clearly shows that CCP is more than willing to listen to its community, I am very pleased with the opportunity to recreate my character. This also clearly shows that CCP live in their own world and repeatedly need to be pointed to some of the most obvious things before they realize those are needed. As to the portrait preview: You gain massive points for introducing a preview and sensible confirmation dialog about a semi-irreversible action. Unfortunately you lose those them all for not showing every relevant format (64x64 in chat, 256x256 in my own char sheet, 512x512 in character selection)
Wolf theQuarrelsome	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:03:00 - [41] I personally am really frustrated with this new feature. Now before ya'll at CCP say ** you and ignore me, I do want to say good job on, most of it. My main frustration points are the following. Why can't we have re customization of at least the clothing, makeup, and picture shot now. Even if it's a station service and costs 10,000,000 isk. 2, this expands on 1 and one of the reasons you are putting this patch out. I'm really happy with my new portrait, except in the tiny in chat size, it looks like in that size. And no not hot , or golden , more like cow patty smeared on a bagel **. My frustration is I had no way of knowing the tiny sized version was going to look so bad until I logged in, long after I can currently fix it.(Since I'm sure their is good technical reason to not allow pilots to have different portraits for different sized uses, I won't ask.) 3. Please send the artists to more than goth industrial clubs, and corporate dress code meetings when researching hair styles. How can i be a truly terrifying pirate without my pigtails? (Yes seriously, I want pigtails, k? please? thanks!) In short, ya'll came 90% of the way... I know scrum means you won't launch with 100% but please don't delay or skimp on adding more content for this, and unlocking it's use. Hell I would just like to be able to go stare at my new avatar in 3D, right now it's like nothings changed... I'm still just a picture and I can't even for vanity reasons go look in holographic mirror. Otherwise keep rockin and thanks for taking the time to talk with the unruly mob of players.
Valator Uel Caldari Cursed Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:06:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP Caedmon Originally by: Am Loh do we have to submit a petition to get a go again? No. At the point when we implement the UI changes all characters who have already completed the character customization process will automatically receive another chance to recustomize. There is no need to raise a petition. Can we wait before we have to (re)redo our chars or should we wait for further patches?
Inbrainsane	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:11:00 - [43] Would it be possible to present us the 512x512 version of the character portrait before finalization? Sometimes there are small glitches that go unnoticed on the smaller images.
HyperZerg	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:14:00 - [44] Best would be all 3 pictures you can see ingame. Local, Player-Info and Login/Character-sheet.
Keiko Kobayashi Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:14:00 - [45] Edited by: Keiko Kobayashi on 19/01/2011 22:16:19 I donÆt think showing all the different preview sizes is really very useful, because the final server-rendered version will look slightly different anyway. E.g. the shadows will look better, it will be anti-aliased, and also some glitches that showed up for me in the large preview image didnÆt appear in the server version. Also I think character movement is not stored in the snapshot (including eye blinking); I timed the snapshot on æbreathe-inÆ, but when I compared the local render with the server render, the movement was not included. So those who worry about closed eyes, probably itÆll be fine. From what I understand normally the local version is cached for a day or so before the server version is received, but you can force EVE to send you the server version by finding the image in EVE application data /cache/Pictures/Characters and renaming it to something else. Anyway I agree that the final nature of save was a bit unexpected (itÆs fine when creating a new character), IÆm glad to have this confirmation window and the opportunity to tweak my characters a little further. And if any 512x512 should be shown in the confirmation, it should be a server render of the final snapshot, so we can really see what our character will look like.
ssuLost Caldari QQ Continuum	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:21:00 - [46] Edited by: ssuLost on 19/01/2011 22:23:00 I was wondering is there a chance in these future release of the character editor are we going more options for clothing and hair styles? The lack of a tennis shoe style foot wear for Caldari is a bit odd. Originally by: Dierdra Vaal Quote: as we release tattoos, scars and piercings Does this cover stuff like masks and microphones too, the little gadgets we had in the old creator? This too I miss the implants I had on the side of my old characters face.
Pasmerktas	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:22:00 - [47] Once these new customization abilities comes, can you please add one thing: our characters body shape and facial features show as they are now, just add new clothing tattoos and piercings, also will we be able to change the characters height and eye size, could this be done without doing everything from scratch again?
Lucinda Deschan	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:23:00 - [48] Nice blog, and really great, prompt responce, to the EVE community desires
Aridae	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:30:00 - [49] Are our avatars also stored as a datafile with all the changes, or just as a picture? If not, why is that? There's so many logical reason to have such an option that I simply can not understand CCP didn't make the extra effort. - we could save our "work" halfway (or completed one but then load it for another character - we could go back when redoing our character (via petition or otherwise) and alter our existing avatar instead of having to remake it from scratch (which will ofcourse never work out properly). - being able to export avatars as datafiles could start off some sort of profession, just like we now have artists make signatures, they could then create avatars and sell those ingame.
Typhado3 Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:32:00 - [50] would really like to hear some more about TATTOOs I'm very pedantic about my character looks already spent 2 hours on my first character. Having to go through the whole process again when tattoos come out is a pain. What annoys me most is I havn't heard anything except that it's coming soon(tm). Eve has trained me to be paranoid so the lack of news is giving me all sorts of nightmares (like having to pay to get any shudder). Since it didn't make opening release just don't rush it, the difference between coming out 3 weeks late or 3 months late isn't that much. What I'm worried about now is that a lot of the things I'd love to see (battle tattoos, meaning/language behind tattoos etc.) won't be in cause your rushing to get it out on the server fast. ------------------------------ God is an afk cloaker
Vaneshi SnowCrash	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:32:00 - [51] Originally by: CCP Caedmon As for the undo bar, AKA the history slider, it wasn¦t quite ready to be released. We plan to get it back into the character creator soon. It raises the question that if the staggered release was to cut down on incomplete features, why is the new character creator mandatory for us to use when it's missing something as 'simple' as an undo button? Whilst I understand and accept that 'trinkets' will be a vanity item for purchase it seems to be missing fundemental basics as it currently stands. Clothing seems limited, seriously limited compared to the tech demo video (skirts, dresses, shirt & makeup options, etc) and as stated it's missing core functionality (undo button). So why isn't this marked as 'beta' and optional for us to use much as the neocom & contracts updates were anticipated to be?
Acid Flipper Sock Robbers Inc. Syndicate.	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:36:00 - [52] i need a gasmask to breathe. It is not a vanity item or a tinket.
Midnight Void	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:52:00 - [53] Thanks, CCP =)
Captain Campion Corp 1 Allstars Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.01.19 22:55:00 - [54] Edited by: Captain Campion on 19/01/2011 22:56:13 A 3d view and a 200x200 preview aren't good enough. To get it right I need: - to see my character in a station with other characters - to see a preview the size of a portrait in chat - to see a preview the size of the character sheet portrait Without this, I can't make the right choices. I also want to make my character really black. It seems I'm unable to do so, this is discrimination.
Akaylah Lafisques	Posted - 2011.01.19 23:02:00 - [55] Originally by: Chiselhead No, I do not want to update my char. It was fine the way it was, its a shame your team couldn't have given a little more thought to this and allowed players to import the avatar they already had to a body that I don't need for sitting in a spaceship, yes I know this is another step in the preperation for your Ambilation, a feature I personaly don't see a need for in a spaceship game. Now the position I'm taking by refusing to update any of my characters on all of my accounts is this, I'm so tired of features in this game that I keep growing to like that keep getting destroyed in some part by your dev teams, so lets put them up for an example, in the time I've played I saw the speed nerf, and yes some people besides me are still none to pleased with that nerf, then the mess your team made of exploration, I still don't like it the way it is now, then you offered PI and then your team reduced my production in this by a whopping 66.6%, and I could go on about the features that have so screwed up that at least for me I feel I have no better choice to make but say NO. Let us import our old faces surly this is in the realm of possibilities, Good luck. Wow. you are an unhappy individual! I'm not sure what your problem really is. It would be impossible to import your old 2D low quality head shot onto a new 3D high quality body. Not only impossible, but impractical and ridiculous. Yes there have been changes to this game as it has evolved. And yes these changes cause a lot of us inconvenience and in some cases a lot of time/effort/work we've invested in them. Yes, it sucks that your PI has been reduced by 2/3. But everyone's has. They did that to address some sort of balance issue. Yes, the speed nerf really hurt a lot of people that had trained their character to use speed as a method of defense that could no longer do so, at least not effectively. And yes, it's sad to lose that tiny little face that you designed so long ago and have grown to know (as well as the faces of your corp mates!), but such is the price of progress my friend. And this progress isn't easy. Even something as unimportant to the gameplay of EVE as creating your character has caused a LOT of problems for the players and therefore the devs as well. But once the issues have been worked out and the flaws ironed out, more progress can come after. YOU might not want ambulation. But looking at these forums a LOT of people are really looking froward to that. It is unlikely that CCP would halt progress toward that end because you (and you're not alone!) want to keep their old portrait. Would you want them to halt all progress so as not to step on anyone's toes? Would you have them reload EVE to it's 2003 Beta version? Just take advantage of these new features and make the best of it like we all have!
Joshua Cy	Posted - 2011.01.19 23:05:00 - [56] I hope we get more hair options for men. Like longer hair.
Bruttius Sulla	Posted - 2011.01.19 23:12:00 - [57] Edited by: Bruttius Sulla on 19/01/2011 23:12:45 The picture that ends up looking the very worst in game is the chat picture (32x32). I suggest you include versions of each portrait in some standard sizes at the finalize stage... 32, 64, 256, 512. At 256x256 the pictures look about the same in the creator as they do in game. The lighting and lighter hues seem to really effect smaller versions of the portraits making them look really blurry in game.
Myronik	Posted - 2011.01.19 23:40:00 - [58] Originally by: Tippia In this image, you're still missing a critical problem that makes the creation process needlessly obtuse. That snapshot in the dialogue box needs to be much* larger. Why not use the full-res local render that the camera creates? It already exists, and we can already get at it by skipping out of the client, so why not use it? Why use a far too small* snapshot that doesn't tell you what the result actually looks like? supporting this or i need to buy glasses first time in my life to see tiny avatars details Also please make sure that lights must affect on background color not only the character model. And add more warm temperatures ffs!
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.19 23:46:00 - [59] hope renewed, I really didn't expect any change for 6 months. Thanks CCP.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:02:00 - [60] Thank you CCP ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
Ravcharas GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:08:00 - [61] Yeah, the preview needs to include all the different thumbnail sizes. What's fine in 512 might look real strange when scaled down.
Comstr Bat Country Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:08:00 - [62] Without a picture of what it looks like in local chat and in the forum, it's pretty useless.
Hesperius	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:16:00 - [63] Please make the final preview image bigger, I ended up with 3 characters with a lazy eye...
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:24:00 - [64] Edited by: Diomedes Calypso on 20/01/2011 00:25:21 Super!, all of the information is good news and really reasassuring. It will produce better results and make the potentially great new toy a lot more fun. Your commitment to allow us to attack it all again when the rest of your planned features are released is maybe the most important . We'll know after the beta period is over we'll be able to do the best we can with the full fledged creator that i'm sure will find ways to meet player concerns. I'm hoping that at that time in a few months, they'll be some choices of skin color and eye shape in a few of the bloodlines that will help use achieve closer to the ethnic appearance of our prior characters in the same lines and also allow more accurate depications of most of the peoples of the world. Now that you the characters have moved mostly to real world replicas of human beings from being a rag tag collection of cartoons with a few alien features, a different level of inclusiveness is called for. Very good news indeed... now off to have fun with the new toy with far less trepidation! Cheers!
Solo Player	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:31:00 - [65] Can you please comment on the following: Will said update (tattoos, piercings et al., including, hopefully, a lot more hairstyle, clothing and colour options) be available before the end of the grace period? Are you planning said extended customisation options to require micro-transactions? Is there anything that opposes the option of choosing different portraits for every portrait size? Thanks.
Wenzl	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:35:00 - [66] Originally by: Euphoriiia Perhaps before you do this, you should make sure everyone can get into the creator? I still get stuck at 'entering character creator'... Totally agree!! All this sounds really interesting, but I have no idea what everyone is talking about, because I too would like to create my character BUT CAN'T while I keep getting stuck at '"entering character creator". Somebody fix this please!
Terianna Eri Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:36:00 - [67] make sure the lighting works on the next runthrough! i kid but thanks for the very prompt (relatively speaking ) update on what's goin on ________________ Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
Hazuki Luna	Posted - 2011.01.20 00:38:00 - [68] I too look foward to all the little accesories and additions beyond glasses. Hopefully we can get some nice scarring, some non-sunglass glasses, maybe the return of the headset I know my old character had. Can't wait for the new customization options. I already spent a couple hours just tweaking my alts. Still tentative on my main so I appreciate the Grace Period.
LOL CYBERKNIGHTS	Posted - 2011.01.20 01:14:00 - [69] Thank you CCP, happy to see you still listen to us =)
Hardreign Minmatar Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2011.01.20 01:19:00 - [70] "We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak." ~ Epictetus Thank you CCP for having ears. Unite the tribes. Death to the Empress.
Brain Boy	Posted - 2011.01.20 01:45:00 - [71] Edited by: Brain Boy on 20/01/2011 01:46:09 This is good news, letting us redesign when the product has aged a bit. I'm sure that it'll help with the diversity problem, rather with the lack of diversity. Towards that end please please please pretty please, with a long limbed roe on top, can we have skeletal deformations to play with? Having everyones meaty bits pasted on the same frame is really making the otherwise great job you did look far less impressive.
Noun Verber Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.20 01:49:00 - [72] Just for clarity: is current planning to be able to only need to edit our characters once new options are put in place (compared to needing to completely recreate from the base)?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.20 01:52:00 - [73] You know, I really, really dislike your use of "re-customize"... when it really means "re-create from scratch". You failed to give us any method of exporting/importing any customisations, and I have a nagging feeling the "recustomization" we'll get will NOT load our previous character as default... also, there's no "reset to default" button. And don't even get me started on the fact you just can't see where in the pool of possible choices you currently are (the total absence of sliders is ridiculous), plus it's really hard at times to "grasp" the proper place on the face when the avatar keeps fidgeting about. I did not really think EVE could get even less usable UI-wise, but the new portrait generator takes the cake. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.20 02:22:00 - [74] Now see, CCP, this is what I love about you guys! Instead of letting us **** in the wind, you actually listen to your userbase! Especially when what they ask is reasonable. Chapeau! --
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.20 02:54:00 - [75] Originally by: Razin Originally by: Kuan Yida When we re-customize, will this be starting from scratch, or using the avatar we worked so hard to create? From all that's been written lately it seems you'd start with your current model; though it would be nice to get a clear confirmation from CCP. Oh? From everything I have read, it looks like you're starting from scratch. Confirmation, please. --
Chaos Winds	Posted - 2011.01.20 03:12:00 - [76] Does anyone know if the incoming tattoos, scars and piercings are going to cost real-life money like portrait changes do? And will the "ability to repeatedly recustomize characters in a future release" cost real-life money also, or just isk in-game? I sure hope they go the isk route, but I find it hard to believe that after all these years of charging money to redo avatars, CCP is just going to give this stuff away in-game for isk....
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.20 03:17:00 - [77] Originally by: Hesperius Please make the final preview image bigger, I ended up with 3 characters with a lazy eye... Yeah. The lazy eye has to do with the fact that you're character is constantly fidgeting. This is, in itself, a cool feature: makes it life-like (the Mass Effect in-game character menu screen does this too). It's not such a useful feature when actually crafting your character, though. In my case I wound up with clipping errors in my hair (like the lazy eye, because of the unfortunate timing of the snapshot). While we're comparing, the Mass Effect in-game character creator has your character be perfectly still during creation, as it should be. Originally by: Euphoriiia Perhaps before you do this, you should make sure everyone can get into the creator? I still get stuck at 'entering character creator'... You need to get a real video card. I have a modest nVidia GTX 285, and it works flawlessly. Wasn't there an issue with needing 3.0 shaders, for example? Updating your drivers might be a good idea, too. --
Gwydion Voleur Darn Near Respectable	Posted - 2011.01.20 03:20:00 - [78] Glad to see this post. My TQ patch didn't have the scroll bar at the bottom that allowed rollback of changes, or any option to stop my customization where it was and pick up at a later time. Thanks CCP, saved me a petition.
Petite Morte	Posted - 2011.01.20 03:57:00 - [79] Is anyone else having trouble using the interface? All I can get is a floating set of teeth...
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.20 04:17:00 - [80] Originally by: CCP Caedmon Thanks for the feedback. I can confirm that Akaylah and Razin are right. The starting point for recustomization will be your character as you left him or her. As for the undo bar, AKA the history slider, it wasn¦t quite ready to be released. We plan to get it back into the character creator soon. Guise, read the fricken first page of the thread! Great descision CCP. I must say that this char cration was the most fun I had in EVE for quite a while. Can¦t wait to have another go at it. BTW, do give us all available resolutions on that finalize screen. It¦s stupid that we have to scour the fricken cache by hand to find ALL results. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.01.20 04:36:00 - [81] I would like to know why there is no SAVE and Finalize button? Why can't we save, come back, play with it, and spend as much time as we need, under the grace period? Best regards, Apollo Gabriel
Funkalicous	Posted - 2011.01.20 04:46:00 - [82] Damn I'm hot!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.20 05:17:00 - [83] Edited by: Tres Farmer on 20/01/2011 05:21:55 Edited by: Tres Farmer on 20/01/2011 05:21:10 Originally by: Lady Naween It would be nice if we could also see what the avatar will look like in the smaller portraits, my alt (this one) looked great in the large fullscreen but the tiny icon in say chat and local looks messy since the background and the hair melds together poorly. THIS! ^^ Several backgrounds only look good in the big version and the small avatar thumbnail for the channel lists of the forums looks screwed as the contrast isn't high enough.. The same with the zoom function.. some people zoom so far out to see boobies or some pose that you can't recognise them on the small thumbnails. Please give: - More bright backgrounds - Small thumbnail preview like it is on the forums/channels with ANTIALISING - I have to choose BRIGHT EYE colors (white/blue and white/green) just because the dark stuff isn't visible and makes the avatar in the thumbnail loose his eyes >>> give option to accentuate eyes by increasing their brightness in the thumbnails support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Killajoules	Posted - 2011.01.20 05:40:00 - [84] Edited by: Killajoules on 20/01/2011 05:42:24 Although I myself am happy with my portrait, I support the redo that CCP is allowing. I myself had plenty of time to mess around with the creator in Sisi and can confirm that I actully messed up my portrait in there, so I took caution while using it live. Not everyone has the time (nor should have to) for what I did and with such a radical change, the point that CCP came around to understand allowing a 2nd chance and making UI imrpovements is good. Just don't get frustrated with your customers, their view points are valid as it would seem you understand now (@CCP) As for everyone else Emo-Raging about the features, changes, fixes, gameplay altering nerfs ect. stfu and htfu. You're not the only one that plays this game, and go cry to someone else about how you had to alter your combat style to be successful. Theres a million other ways to pvp, try some. And anyone emo-raging about CCP's late response, oversights, ect. Grow-up too, nobody's perfect. They're more transparent (now anyways) than most other MMO's. The point of the fact is they corrected their mistakes, what more could you ask for? (do you want it on a silver plater too?) The only thing tbh CCP has upset me with in the past is the whole BOB thing, and I pray they learned from their mistakes and will stay out of the IT conflict. (Literally and figuratively) TL:DR, grow up: play the game and like it or leave. No-one is forcing you to play it. --- P.S. +1 to Please add viewing of all 3 portrait aspects (chat, forum, and char selection) when asking about finalization. It is the chat icon I have found myself most dissapointed in upon entering game with a new char.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.20 06:03:00 - [85] Edited by: Tippia on 20/01/2011 06:04:45 Originally by: Akita T And don't even get me started on the fact you just can't see where in the pool of possible choices you currently are (the total absence of sliders is ridiculous), plus it's really hard at times to "grasp" the proper place on the face when the avatar keeps fidgeting about. I could get behind that. Give us a "mathematician's / modeller's view" toggle that pops down a list of all the xy (or just x, in some cases) sliders a la Poser. It might be a bit much to get in for this quick-fix patch, but definitely for future iterations (along with a xml export of said values ù hey presto, new oog-market for ready-made sculpts). ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Alpha Seitheach	Posted - 2011.01.20 06:09:00 - [86] Please consider providing more colors for clothes. Now it looks like all pilots shop in the same store stocked with nothing but grey clothes. Thanks,
Mr Garo	Posted - 2011.01.20 06:14:00 - [87] Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 19/01/2011 20:15:50 That snapshot in the dialogue box needs to be much* larger. Why not use the full-res local render that the camera creates? It already exists, and we can already get at it by skipping out of the client, so why not use it? Why use a far too small* snapshot that doesn't tell you what the result actually looks like? I disagree. My character portrait looked just fine on the preview but the small icon looked awful. The Character Creator should display all those different render sizes so I can verify that all those versions look fine. All hail to CCP for this change! - Garo
Linda Duane Gallente Bluestar Enterprises	Posted - 2011.01.20 06:53:00 - [88] Edited by: Linda Duane on 20/01/2011 06:55:46 +1 for the Devblog. Got to adjust the eyes on this one. It looks like I'm looking slightly downwards. Btw, what happened to the customisation of eye-ball sizes? Btw2, what happened to the more powerful customisation options in the photobooth regarding expressions. I tried time and time again to get some smiling or a smirk, but it just doesn't work. Is this intentional to make those pictures look like passport pictures? If so, then please state this. PS: my hair was longer in the char creator (left side on picture, actually nearly till the shoulders) than it is in the server rendered picture. Any solution to this?! And the server includes antialising, where as the client doesn't do this for the preview.. THAT SUCKS!!!!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.20 07:01:00 - [89] Originally by: Mr Garo Originally by: Tippia That snapshot in the dialogue box needs to be much* larger. Why not use the full-res local render that the camera creates? It already exists, and we can already get at it by skipping out of the client, so why not use it? Why use a far too small* snapshot that doesn't tell you what the result actually looks like? I disagree. My character portrait looked just fine on the preview but the small icon looked awful. The Character Creator should display all those different render sizes so I can verify that all those versions look fine. It's the missing antialising in the photobooth that completely blows. Even the local folder to check what you get contains the antialised version.. support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Akaylah Lafisques	Posted - 2011.01.20 07:34:00 - [90] Edited by: Akaylah Lafisques on 20/01/2011 07:35:02 Originally by: Akita T You know, I really, really dislike your use of "re-customize"... when it really means "re-create from scratch". You failed to give us any method of exporting/importing any customisations, and I have a nagging feeling the "recustomization" we'll get will NOT load our previous character as default... also, there's no "reset to default" button. And don't even get me started on the fact you just can't see where in the pool of possible choices you currently are (the total absence of sliders is ridiculous), plus it's really hard at times to "grasp" the proper place on the face when the avatar keeps fidgeting about. I did not really think EVE could get even less usable UI-wise, but the new portrait generator takes the cake. See this post http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1451716. This is what you see if you click on the link at the EVE login screen. maybe you forgot to read that one. It says "If you are not happy with the character portrait that you have made for your character, do not despair. In the next few days we are going to give everyone who has already customized their character at that time one re-customization for use during the grace period. This will allow you to restart the character portrait creation process with your current character portrait as the starting point. Please be aware that once you have saved your character portrait it will be final until we introduce in-game re-customization in a future release."
Akaylah Lafisques	Posted - 2011.01.20 07:37:00 - [91] Originally by: Alpha Seitheach Please consider providing more colors for clothes. Now it looks like all pilots shop in the same store stocked with nothing but grey clothes. Thanks, Please, PLEASE, read information provided before posting. It has been stated several times by CCP devs that in the future we will be able to obtain/buy/create new clothes in-game and re-customize our portraits with these clothes and accessories.
Akaylah Lafisques	Posted - 2011.01.20 07:41:00 - [92] Originally by: Solo Player Can you please comment on the following: Will said update (tattoos, piercings et al., including, hopefully, a lot more hairstyle, clothing and colour options) be available before the end of the grace period? Are you planning said extended customisation options to require micro-transactions? Is there anything that opposes the option of choosing different portraits for every portrait size? Thanks. No. These updates will be in a future expansion (Incarna - when ambulation will be added) at which time you will be able to re-customize your portrait. Can't speak from anything I've seen, but I'm sure this will be an option. I DID read, however, that we will be able to 'build' clothes from blueprints similar to how we produce ships, etc. A good idea, but probably bandwidth/storage/rendering issues.
Doctor Nho	Posted - 2011.01.20 07:53:00 - [93] Someone else pointed out that you can't find any two avatars that look alike. Seems so to me, and that's a good thing. Overall it's definitely a step up, and clearly a lot of work went into it. But I was used to my Achura looking Asian. Now I can't come close. All the skin tones seem Caucasian, the eyes are definitely not Asian, I can't get the cheekbones right, and I can't seem to get rid of this cleft between the eyes that makes it look like the toon had a close encounter with an axe as a child. Ok, well it's not quite that bad, but I've not gotten anything I wanted to finalize. On the other hand, I felt the same way with the earlier character portrait at first, so maybe I'll get used to being Caucasian. Eventually.
Kalya Varr	Posted - 2011.01.20 08:14:00 - [94] Originally by: Wenzl Originally by: Euphoriiia Perhaps before you do this, you should make sure everyone can get into the creator? I still get stuck at 'entering character creator'... Totally agree!! All this sounds really interesting, but I have no idea what everyone is talking about, because I too would like to create my character BUT CAN'T while I keep getting stuck at '"entering character creator". Somebody fix this please! My pc still crashes in the character creator, on SiSi worked just fine.
Nicky McClane	Posted - 2011.01.20 09:00:00 - [95] When making the char laughing during the photoshooting, I got some pixel errors under the mouth. In EVE the char should look angry? I realized it to late having all four photoshooting pictures in larger quality in my portraits cache folder on the harddisk for verifying this. Hopefully this will be fixed before the recustomization. opened also a Bug Report 106007
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.20 09:08:00 - [96] Thanks for the info CCP and the fix. I am curious about one thing though. As the portrait is final FIINAAALLL voice of doom will the portrait change in the future when we get tattoos and stuff. Or will the tattoos and such only show on the ingame character (not really sure how to call it, but portrait + ingame character sounds...logical...)? It would feel a bit odd that we are now whining/rambling about stuff being final and then in the future we can monkey around with the portrait as much as we want? So will the monkeying only happen on the 3D-models and NOT on the portrait? Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Salandra SurenWorh	Posted - 2011.01.20 09:12:00 - [97] Thank you CCP for letting us our chance to recustomize our characters ! I admit that i messed up particularly well the redesign of my main character and in haste of testing new features, i saved my work without thinking it would be definitive. Besides I post on the forums with my alt character's avatar, which looks already better ______________________________ Sorry for my unperfect english
Inbrainsane	Posted - 2011.01.20 09:27:00 - [98] Since they are deploying it TODAY, I dont think we get our 512x512 preview. DAMN! Why dont you listen? Now you will get tons of petitions again complaining about some pixel errors here and there!
Joe Astor Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.01.20 09:31:00 - [99] Originally by: Inbrainsane Since they are deploying it TODAY, I dont think we get our 512x512 preview. DAMN! Why dont you listen? Now you will get tons of petitions again complaining about some pixel errors here and there! Never know, it might be at 512x512. It might only be a few lines of code to change. Then again on the other hand, it might not be. Time shall tell either way.
Janith Arakz	Posted - 2011.01.20 10:24:00 - [100] Edited by: Janith Arakz on 20/01/2011 10:24:48 Nothing like a bit of nerd rage to get the blood flowing huh? Anyway, don't know what you lot are moaning about with these portraits. I look totally hot.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.20 10:30:00 - [101] Originally by: Janith Arakz Edited by: Janith Arakz on 20/01/2011 10:24:48 Nothing like a bit of nerd rage to get the blood flowing huh? Anyway, don't know what you lot are moaning about with these portraits. I look totally hot. With your portrait I would only moan about gravity...takes a toll... Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Wasabi Donut	Posted - 2011.01.20 10:44:00 - [102] well... still even Sims2 has a better character creator with more options^^ now all chars look like taken from actual RL, no more strange, SciFi stuff... booring
Dav Varan	Posted - 2011.01.20 10:52:00 - [103] Originally by: Akaylah Lafisques Excellent news. I have another suggestion. When you are taking your portraits, You should be able to see what those portraits look like in the sizes that will be used in game. I chose a pose that looked good when looking at it in it's larger form, but it the tiny size most of us see on a regular basis it doesn't look good at all. This. A confirmation screen with all portrait sizes for us to check would be better. My character also suffers from a poor quality small pic.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:38:00 - [104] I was just thinking about all this the other day, good news \o/
Heroltior Ghedonia	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:39:00 - [105] What if you have a character account that is suspended at the moment? Will you be given an oportunity to recreate after the "grace period," or will you be defaulted to a random?
i hatechosingnames Gallente Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:44:00 - [106] Edited by: i hatechosingnames on 20/01/2011 11:44:56 please please please add some more weird hairstyles... i miss my psycho gallente hair style :(
Sahnay	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:53:00 - [107] Originally by: CCP Caedmon As for the undo bar, AKA the history slider, it wasn¦t quite ready to be released. We plan to get it back into the character creator soon. Yay! for that. Since you frequently end up altering say a width instead of a height it's a very welcome function. Also my vote for a bigger preview image.
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:55:00 - [108] Edited by: Jint Hikaru on 20/01/2011 11:56:02 Originally by: i hatechosingnames Edited by: i hatechosingnames on 20/01/2011 11:44:56 please please please add some more weird hairstyles... i miss my psycho gallente hair style :( I have to agree..... While I thought the creator was amazing and prodiced very realistic results.... there was a HUGE LACK of sci-fi stuff... For example Wild Hair styles - (as pointed out above) Facial jewlery - one of my alts used to have chrome stripes on his face Tatoos and face paint - as shown above Sci-Fi clothes - all i saw i could probably buy in my local mall. Glasses - REALLY? one style, from the late 1980s... thats it? And many other things.... For WIS to work, people need to feel like the whole look of their character is unique. That means you need to provide a lot of options in all areas.... as it stands I recon 5% of the eve population is probably wearing the same jacket as me. ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Crystal Cornelious	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:59:00 - [109] Originally by: Heroltior Ghedonia What if you have a character account that is suspended at the moment? Will you be given an oportunity to recreate after the "grace period," or will you be defaulted to a random? The "grace period" mean, players can decide 'not' to recreate their character at this very moment, this explains why some people still have a silhouette in-game and not a normal portait. After the "grace period" has ended, players are required to recreate their character, if one denies, you can't enter the game anymore, it will not default you to the default character of your race and bloodline, it simply means you can not enter the game without a new portait anymore (a choice you can currently still make).
luna1102	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:02:00 - [110] Edited by: luna1102 on 20/01/2011 12:06:54 Originally by: Heroltior Ghedonia What if you have a character account that is suspended at the moment? Will you be given an oportunity to recreate after the "grace period," or will you be defaulted to a random? In the description was something like this: If you login after the grace period you will be forced to change your portrait. Therefore you won't have a portrait for that character and you can't login into game without choose a new portrait. Hmmm ... too late
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:09:00 - [111] I really wish it was a reset button in the posture screen, would make it so much easier to undo bad posing. Also having all the various thumbnail sizes show up in the final confirmation would be great (64x64, 128x128, 200x200, 256x256 and 512x512).
Amara Valde	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:18:00 - [112] You can preview your portrait after you've taken the snapshot. You need to alt-tab to your cache, under the pictures/portraits directory and you'll see portraitsnapshot_0.jpg, portraitsnspshot_1.jpg etc in the directory. They are pretty big, and not squeezed into those ridiculous thumbnails in the character creator. You can see all kinds of blemishes which you can't see in the creator, and keep adjusting until you get what you want. Doesn't mean that you can - my Civire alt keeps having these eyelash nightmares - but at least you'll not save thinking you have something nice and being nastily surprised when you return to the character selection screen.
Laendra Mercurialis Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:24:00 - [113] Honestly, players should be able to go in and change their snapshot anytime. It is just a picture of your character. And to be really honest, after seeing how often my own daughter changes her "look", everything, other than the physical attributes that you modify by clicking and dragging, should be modifiable....such as makeup, hair color/length, clothes, etc., to reflect your (player or pilot's) mood. One thing I would like to see added is to make it easier to smile, frown, wink, look flirtatious, etc., for your portrait. Right now, smiles look rather forced when you try them. And another thing that rather irritates me, is there is a definite lack of the ability to instill valid "hotness" in your characters....all of the females have a distinct manliness, which perhaps subconsciously/consciously reflects the fact that most females are played by males, but I would much rather import a portrait of someone that I envision more closely resembles the image of the pilot that I have in my own mind, than be stuck with a mannish looking pilot. -------------------
Svizac Marmotov Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:25:00 - [114] What about hair? When are we going to be able to chose long hair, customize the length, and maybe it's style. Can I refuse to create an avatar, maybe petition so that my actual avatar remains this faceless shadow until I have the option to make it the way it was with the old character?
PropheticWarrior	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:58:00 - [115] Thank you CCP for the update. I'm a little disappointed that current character customization options are race/bloodline limited. I'm more comfortable making a customization that I will not be happy with in some cases now that I know I will get the option to re-customize later.
Xzal Firentii	Posted - 2011.01.20 13:23:00 - [116] Edited by: Xzal Firentii on 20/01/2011 13:25:02 Initially I was a little disappointed with the Carbon Creator. The ? in the bottom left does provide most information you need, but the creator doesnt really inform you of what can be done on each section. I think quite a few of us got to the Photo Section, set light a pose and was done there without even having any indication we could alter facial expressions, or head/should orientation. Although now that I have fiddled with it a little more it is a very good creator. Have a look below :3 Pre-Carbon : http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/Character/90184823_256.jpg Post-Carbon: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5271/firentiicarbonized.jpg The post Carbon is unfortunately just a draft as my current avatar over there (<) was drawn up first and mistakenly accepted. The post carbon is the intended design and as you can see they are remarkably similar with the carbonized one just missing the Visor.
winona wilder	Posted - 2011.01.20 13:36:00 - [117] I don't know if there are issues related to new char. creation have been posted yet but I'm having troubles. When I click on my character and then should enter character creation, windows crashes and I have to restart my pc. Any idea how this can happen? (Eve is not installed on my local hard disk but on an ext. one) kind regards and thanks
Heroltior Ghedonia	Posted - 2011.01.20 13:39:00 - [118] Originally by: Crystal Cornelious Originally by: Heroltior Ghedonia What if you have a character account that is suspended at the moment? Will you be given an oportunity to recreate after the "grace period," or will you be defaulted to a random? The "grace period" mean, players can decide 'not' to recreate their character at this very moment, this explains why some people still have a silhouette in-game and not a normal portait. After the "grace period" has ended, players are required to recreate their character, if one denies, you can't enter the game anymore, it will not default you to the default character of your race and bloodline, it simply means you can not enter the game without a new portait anymore (a choice you can currently still make). Awesome! Thank you. That explains it a lot better.
Veronica Jugs	Posted - 2011.01.20 13:39:00 - [119] Quote: we will give all characters who have already completed character customization a chance to recustomize I'm going to take my shirt off.
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.20 13:45:00 - [120] Originally by: Amara Valde You can preview your portrait after you've taken the snapshot. You need to alt-tab to your cache, under the pictures/portraits directory and you'll see portraitsnapshot_0.jpg, portraitsnspshot_1.jpg etc in the directory. They are pretty big, and not squeezed into those ridiculous thumbnails in the character creator. You can see all kinds of blemishes which you can't see in the creator, and keep adjusting until you get what you want. Doesn't mean that you can - my Civire alt keeps having these eyelash nightmares - but at least you'll not save thinking you have something nice and being nastily surprised when you return to the character selection screen. Good tips! Thanks! :) Maybe now I can find a snapshot that will take care of the clipping errors in my hair. --
Rigeborod	Posted - 2011.01.20 14:02:00 - [121] Edited by: Rigeborod on 20/01/2011 14:07:10 Edited by: Rigeborod on 20/01/2011 14:04:09 Add plz also some additional long hair options for male chars! Not only females have long hair! :) I basically do like long hair but don't like to choose from 1 option.
Gerard Pepin Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.01.20 14:15:00 - [122] When will they add an option to disable character fidgeting? It is VERY difficult to sculpt the character when they keep moving.
Gun Hog Caldari APEX ARDENT COALITION Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.01.20 14:23:00 - [123] When I try to use the creator, EVE just hangs and if left alone too long, crashes my computer :( Am I screwed when the grace period ends? _______________________________________________
tehSiner Abnormal Experience	Posted - 2011.01.20 14:35:00 - [124] once the character has been created, is there an option to view it in 3D?
Trocent Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2011.01.20 14:48:00 - [125] Will be able to enter the Customization screen again and Cancel... Allowing us the orginal portrait we made but Still allow us that chance to recustomize?
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.20 15:14:00 - [126] Originally by: Trocent Will be able to enter the Customization screen again and Cancel... Allowing us the orginal portrait we made but Still allow us that chance to recustomize? This I'd like to know too. If I understood the blog right, it said we can recreate once, within the grace period. It didn't say anything about cancelling an ongoing edit. So, it would be good to have confirmation, one way or the other. --
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.01.20 15:15:00 - [127] Thank you CCP for listening. Could you also look at making the last picture in the conformation screen larger, so we get a better idea of how we look. Also can you take a look at the 'WANTED' sign, with new portraits I think it needs a re-design. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Javator	Posted - 2011.01.20 15:17:00 - [128] But be careful, when you create portrait like mine, it will be replaced with Nickname strip in NeoCom. Are you planning to show us strip wide during character creation?
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.20 15:20:00 - [129] Originally by: Mag's Thank you CCP for listening. Could you also look at making the last picture in the conformation screen larger, so we get a better idea of how we look. I strongly support this. Now that the expansion update has been postponed, this would be a good time to add that. :) Especially since snapshots are really that: taken just when your character may have her eyes closed or something. It's really important to get that right. Hontou ni! :) Like the clipping errors in my hair. I assure you, they weren't there in 'big'. --
Liorah	Posted - 2011.01.20 15:22:00 - [130] My computer is still struggling with the character creator, but I've had a chance to look it it, albeit laggy. I was very disappointed to see that hair colour, eye colour, and skin colour were specific choices, and not a colour palette we could pick from. At a glance, that would be an easy indication of racial differences, since each race would have slightly different palettes to choose from. And we can do all these fancy customisations to the body, molding and shaping it to our wills, but we have predefined hairstyles? What about letting us mold and sculpt hair as well. At a minimum, there should be a slider for overall length, and a slider for overall curl. Oh, and add a slider for overall body height. Amarr characters need to have an additional slider for the length of their heads. That was something many users really enjoyed about the Amarr characters. (Notice that I said sliders, and not predefined choices) Also add a button to pause character action. When shaping a character, the model needs to be stationary. Push "play" to see your work in motion. There needs to be an undo button, that remembers several steps, so you can step back out of changes you've made that you decide you don't like after all, instead of trying to remember what miniscule steps to manually undo. Have the tool allow an export of the options that exist for the current character, in the event the user likes the design and wants to base an alt character off of it. Then have a corresponding input box that reads such an export string or file and builds the character to that point, with the caveat that same gender, race, and bloodline are required. Of course, no undo information would be transferred. This could also be a way to save a "temporary work-in-progress". If a person wants all of his or her characters to be identical, this is an easy way to allow it. This information obviously already exists, it just needs to be exposed to the user, but only at initial character creation time. (Please don't forget to validate the input?) The initial character creator is where options specific to your race or genetic background are selected. For Minmatar, this includes their tribal tattoos, which should be added by default with a warning for removing them. Some stock jewellery/piercings and scars should be available, but much more should be available in the in-game stores. Obviously scars are more involved, so a customisation (cutting) tool would be needed in addition to some stock choices ... let people cut their characters instead of themselves. The initial choice of clothing should reflect that race's culture to some degree: functional and utilitarian for Minmatar, flashy and flambouyant for Gallente, stylish but utilitarian for Caldari, and either robes or regal attire for Amarr. You could get anything else in the Empire stores. Perhaps something "rogue-ish" for each race as well, to reflect the disassociated youth. This tool is a great start, and has so much potential.
Mick Dealer	Posted - 2011.01.20 15:57:00 - [131] Ok the Character creator makes my guys look extremely good. I'm very pleased with it. It's all going in the right direction. I do have one problem which I hope is being rectified in the next patch and that is my Amar char has a hood and I didn't design him with one and I didn't save him with one and I don't want him to have one. So please fix this. Also, I'd like to put my voice in for allowing a player to "monkey around" with his portrait as a permanent feature of the game at NO isk cost please and for expanding the choices available for characters. For example, the clothing is excellent looking but too limited and the color palette is a little too "Eve"; that is "bland" and limited and dark. Again, the Character Creator is incredible and fun and a great way to further involve and attach the player with the game. Great job. Mick
Gabi Angel	Posted - 2011.01.20 16:00:00 - [132] I have some problem with the character creator. When using shader at medium/high performance to scroll the available hair, cloth, etc... takes and eternety, because you dont have a scroll bar nor arrows to move tje selection. Instead you need to switch between option by click on right or left of the window (selection the option and rendering all over again). I have laptop with a dedicated vfdeo card of 1GB and still takes a lot of time to finalize the character. I gave it up for now. Will try again when i have more time.
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2011.01.20 16:07:00 - [133] Will this re-customisation option (coming at a later date) include a free supercomputer for all to enable us to run this blasted new character creation tool at anywhere near a decent & acceptable speed ?? MOOCIFER Emerald/Alpha Oldtimer who has been a part of EVE a lot longer than you.
Spirulina Laxissima Minmatar TotalControl Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.20 17:19:00 - [134] Thank you very much for your reassuring words! I can get over not being an asian-european mutt anymore (round eyes mainly), but I'd please like the option to use the old background (fist with rays). The re-do of the portrait will come in handy, thanks! (+.,_,.#¦¦`+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦) ): Incarna be dammed!
Henricus Gaufridus Amarr Cyrix Ltd. Tamanium	Posted - 2011.01.20 17:36:00 - [135] Originally by: Gun Hog When I try to use the creator, EVE just hangs and if left alone too long, crashes my computer :( Am I screwed when the grace period ends? No idea, seems like CCP is paying more attention to fixing the actual gameplay stuff first. I have no idea if they're bothering with the character creator issues currently (or ever) because it affects a small minority of players (ie myself). It WOULD be nice, however, for CCP to acknowledge that there is an issue on their end on this. I don't see anything on the latest patch notes in regards to char creator issues. Have you tried ****ing around with your graphics settings, and does your CPU meet minimum requirements (ie is it SSE2 capable)? Some people have managed to wiggle their way through the char creator by repeatedly playing with shader and texture levels... but it's not doing the trick for me on either of my machines.
Mrs Zor	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:07:00 - [136] Originally by: Henricus Gaufridus Originally by: Gun Hog When I try to use the creator, EVE just hangs and if left alone too long, crashes my computer :( Am I screwed when the grace period ends? No idea, seems like CCP is paying more attention to fixing the actual gameplay stuff first. I have no idea if they're bothering with the character creator issues currently (or ever) because it affects a small minority of players (ie myself). It WOULD be nice, however, for CCP to acknowledge that there is an issue on their end on this. I don't see anything on the latest patch notes in regards to char creator issues. Have you tried ****ing around with your graphics settings, and does your CPU meet minimum requirements (ie is it SSE2 capable)? Some people have managed to wiggle their way through the char creator by repeatedly playing with shader and texture levels... but it's not doing the trick for me on either of my machines. All that they said was they will allow ppl to redo their characters.
Vincent Athena	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:20:00 - [137] I saw one request for skirts. And if Tarzan, Scotts, roman gladiators and Gods in space can wear skirts, I do not see why I cannot.
Zakurai Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:41:00 - [138] I like having the ability to go back and fix our portraits. My first run (thank god I used my alt) I didn't know the 4th snapshot was the defalt one to be used. Taking four snapshots lead me to believe I could switch between portraits as I pleased (or for a fee). Which leads me to the question about why the need for 4 snapshots? If we only use one, then why not just take one pic and be done with it?(not complaining, just curious) I was also wondering if it would be possible to remove sun glasses once the scars/gagets/trinkets come out. The complete lack of these things prompted me to use glasses (since it looked better than having nothing)but if I have more options I might want to ditch them for something else (perhaps a googly eyed space monical) Oh and just to throw it out there, cigars would make for interesting trinkets. (You could make a toon look like Peter Parkers's boss) :D
Steph Wing Gallente Blame The Bunny Reverberation Project	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:48:00 - [139] So basically, the problem CCP is having is the problem that's been talked about on Sisi since the new character creator was put up for testing? And now we're suddenly surprised that the portrait phase isn't clear, despite all that discussion from the last few months? Honestly, I don't even know why they bother with the test server if they're going to ignore the feedback.
Menyet Ikeemoo	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:54:00 - [140] Originally by: Solo Player Can you please comment on the following: Will said update (tattoos, piercings et al., including, hopefully, a lot more hairstyle, clothing and colour options) be available before the end of the grace period? Are you planning said extended customisation options to require micro-transactions? Is there anything that opposes the option of choosing different portraits for every portrait size? Thanks. this
ArchAngel Prime Gallente Alien Ship Builders Caedite Eos	Posted - 2011.01.20 19:01:00 - [141] Edited by: ArchAngel Prime on 20/01/2011 19:02:13 we need an image of thumbnail, the same one in chat. that is the one most people will look at. when i finished the chat thumbnail image was no good but i could not go back and change
Aetius Aurellius	Posted - 2011.01.20 19:04:00 - [142] Originally by: Henricus Gaufridus Originally by: Gun Hog When I try to use the creator, EVE just hangs and if left alone too long, crashes my computer :( Am I screwed when the grace period ends? No idea, seems like CCP is paying more attention to fixing the actual gameplay stuff first. I have no idea if they're bothering with the character creator issues currently (or ever) because it affects a small minority of players (ie myself). It WOULD be nice, however, for CCP to acknowledge that there is an issue on their end on this. I don't see anything on the latest patch notes in regards to char creator issues. Have you tried ****ing around with your graphics settings, and does your CPU meet minimum requirements (ie is it SSE2 capable)? Some people have managed to wiggle their way through the char creator by repeatedly playing with shader and texture levels... but it's not doing the trick for me on either of my machines. I moved all my settings to the lowest settings possible, with the same result...just hanging with the progress bar, everything else blank. Left it that way for 15 minutes, to no result.
Echo Mande	Posted - 2011.01.20 19:10:00 - [143] Edited by: Echo Mande on 20/01/2011 19:14:56 Originally by: Gerard Pepin When will they add an option to disable character fidgeting? It is VERY difficult to sculpt the character when they keep moving. +10 We're 'sculpting' an object and making still images of it. Having said object fidget while it is being worked on is a Bad Thing; a 'freeze' button would be a big bonus. I also agree that having the confirm dialog show the picture in all used resolutions (channel list to large-scale) is a good thing that should be included. Even better, the active picture's various sizes should be shown on or, in a popup selectable on, the camera screen .
Neryman Tulocky	Posted - 2011.01.20 19:32:00 - [144] Just as many players already said: Thanks at first to CCP for the great job! I generally like the new Chars. But also - as many already mentioned - I'm also a bit of disappointed. Even tough, the old Char-portraits were 2D only, there were more possibilities to adjust the look of the avatars. With the new editor and its great (potentially unlimitted) possibilities, IMHO there are at the moment too few options for customizing a charakters look. Just to complete the wishlist from my point of view: If I wanted to create a char with a bald head... I mean, a real bald head, that's not looking like shaved, but like simply having no hair (anymore). This ist not possible. Wanting to create a very skinny/meager char (or even a very fat one), the given options don't cover this. Even the skinniest setting lets the char still look like an athlet. Apart from that, there's often just a quite limitted palette of colours available. A guy with albinotic red eyes wouldn't be possible atm. Last thing, the clothes. I don't know, if the selectable clothes depend on the Chars nation and origin, but I felt, there were by far too little choices. Again: I do really like the new Chars, but my impression of the editor is a bit like "incomplete". Nery (sorry, had to copy & paste most of this posting, 'cause I mixed up the threads ^^)
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion RONA Directorate	Posted - 2011.01.20 20:19:00 - [145] Originally by: Rigeborod Edited by: Rigeborod on 20/01/2011 14:07:10 Edited by: Rigeborod on 20/01/2011 14:04:09 Add plz also some additional long hair options for male chars! Not only females have long hair! :) I basically do like long hair but don't like to choose from 1 option. This especially, seriously the threads are up and us hippy religious artist intaki are mad we had to cut our hair. All these dreads make us look like old sebistor minmatar.
Blackjack Dragoon Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.20 20:26:00 - [146] As a poster said earlier about the amarr "The Hoods" on my login screen I still have my original port. but in game I have the hood, and although it came out ok in game with the hood and I like it I would like to have been able to tweek the look of my char. with the hood in the original port. but it never showed the hood in the creator.
qou vadis	Posted - 2011.01.20 20:29:00 - [147] Hi i noticed there were a couple of posts on the the enter char selection screen "hanging" i had this problem to start with but got round it by pressing esc key till settings window opens then clicking a few tabs along the top row ,and hey presto the char creator kicks in and u can get on and design your new toon
Chiselhead	Posted - 2011.01.20 22:19:00 - [148] Originally by: Akaylah Lafisques Originally by: Chiselhead No, I do not want to update my char. It was fine the way it was, its a shame your team couldn't have given a little more thought to this and allowed players to import the avatar they already had to a body that I don't need for sitting in a spaceship, yes I know this is another step in the preperation for your Ambilation, a feature I personaly don't see a need for in a spaceship game. Now the position I'm taking by refusing to update any of my characters on all of my accounts is this, I'm so tired of features in this game that I keep growing to like that keep getting destroyed in some part by your dev teams, so lets put them up for an example, in the time I've played I saw the speed nerf, and yes some people besides me are still none to pleased with that nerf, then the mess your team made of exploration, I still don't like it the way it is now, then you offered PI and then your team reduced my production in this by a whopping 66.6%, and I could go on about the features that have so screwed up that at least for me I feel I have no better choice to make but say NO. Let us import our old faces surly this is in the realm of possibilities, Good luck. Wow. you are an unhappy individual! I'm not sure what your problem really is. It would be impossible to import your old 2D low quality head shot onto a new 3D high quality body. Not only impossible, but impractical and ridiculous. Yes there have been changes to this game as it has evolved. And yes these changes cause a lot of us inconvenience and in some cases a lot of time/effort/work we've invested in them. Yes, it sucks that your PI has been reduced by 2/3. But everyone's has. They did that to address some sort of balance issue. Yes, the speed nerf really hurt a lot of people that had trained their character to use speed as a method of defense that could no longer do so, at least not effectively. And yes, it's sad to lose that tiny little face that you designed so long ago and have grown to know (as well as the faces of your corp mates!), but such is the price of progress my friend. And this progress isn't easy. Even something as unimportant to the gameplay of EVE as creating your character has caused a LOT of problems for the players and therefore the devs as well. But once the issues have been worked out and the flaws ironed out, more progress can come after. YOU might not want ambulation. But looking at these forums a LOT of people are really looking froward to that. It is unlikely that CCP would halt progress toward that end because you (and you're not alone!) want to keep their old portrait. Would you want them to halt all progress so as not to step on anyone's toes? Would you have them reload EVE to it's 2003 Beta version? Just take advantage of these new features and make the best of it like we all have! Sorry but it is very possible to do an import. Not you nor myself ever created a 2D image, it is only observed as a 2D image kinda like the new avatars will be seen in only 2D. The only reason I can see for not being able to import a previous image is it wasn't considered at all, I do appriciate your attempt at trying to be helpgul but honestly in this instance you are incorrect.
Gray Phantom	Posted - 2011.01.20 22:51:00 - [149] Originally by: qou vadis Hi i noticed there were a couple of posts on the the enter char selection screen "hanging" i had this problem to start with but got round it by pressing esc key till settings window opens then clicking a few tabs along the top row ,and hey presto the char creator kicks in and u can get on and design your new toon I had the same problem and fix on one of my computers!
Yonaquel	Posted - 2011.01.21 00:10:00 - [150] Appreciate CCP quickly reacting to feedback with these changes which are appropriate and appreciated. I'm pretty happy with my avatar but will likely tweak a bit before grace period expires. But I am confused by one thing. There are no dark skinned people in EVE? No Browns? No Blacks? ..... OK I just went off and checked and it looks like the only option to be able to have dark skin is choosing the Brutor bloodline in Minmater race. hmmmmmmmmm
Henricus Gaufridus Amarr Cyrix Ltd. Tamanium	Posted - 2011.01.21 00:36:00 - [151] Originally by: Gun Hog All that they said was they will allow ppl to redo their characters. Yeah, I noticed. It'd be nice if I could actually create my character's new looks.
Adrasta	Posted - 2011.01.21 00:46:00 - [152] Edited by: Adrasta on 21/01/2011 00:52:17 This whole project looks like a dissertation project for a bunch of IT students in an avg. UK university. I would be embarassed to show this level of quality to my coleagues at work. But ofc MMO's historically required minimum effort from developers since the idi... customers I mean, will eat it anyway right? Also noting a lot of undocumented changes in the patch which is while still typical of MMO's is considered to be rude and unprofessional in all other branches of IT business. I still love how you guys beg for money on the charcter sheet now that is possibly the best change you've done, if only because it shows what you guys hope to achieve with this game :) (a cash shop very soon right? t4 for plex right?) Also love how the dev blog once again babbles about future support. Truly this must be a mantra which is repeated in all ccp "new feature" dev blogs. So what happened to all things such as faction warfare, cosmos missions, "more" t3 ships/modules etc etc? (the list is long and I cba to recap it all) I really wonder. I dare not mention Tyrannis expansion because I love being a tyrant to my little circles and squares its really cool. /irony off Aren't you guys planning to nerf mother... sorry "supercarriers" again. Make your mind up. Do you want those supercapital accounts to be active or not already. I mean its your income in the end :)
Daool	Posted - 2011.01.21 01:51:00 - [153] I can't find this anywhere in forums so I am probbaly just doin something wrong, but when I get into creator (Low shader as high bluescreens my system) I can't sculpt anything. Pretty sure I'm doin it right, but nothing I do seems to change any features in terms of the sculpting. Anyone else seeing this? Does being in low shader mean no sculpting? I assume not as haven't seen the comment anywwhere.
Ava Savant	Posted - 2011.01.21 03:16:00 - [154] the only thing that i am personally worried about is being forced to recreate a character pic i spent hours on perfecting. There will be an OPTION that can be passed as to keep the profile pic currently applied correct? if there isnt i feel that it would be an easy and nessicary thing to add for those who spent hours fine tunning thier character as i did and dont want to lose it.
Publius Valerius Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.21 03:38:00 - [155] Originally by: Ava Savant the only thing that i am personally worried about is being forced to recreate a character pic i spent hours on perfecting. There will be an OPTION that can be passed as to keep the profile pic currently applied correct? if there isnt i feel that it would be an easy and nessicary thing to add for those who spent hours fine tunning thier character as i did and dont want to lose it. I hope too... but I think its easy to make for CCP.
Marcus Gillian	Posted - 2011.01.21 04:06:00 - [156] I don't particularly care for the new character creator for the following reasons: 1. Less variations in back rounds. 2. Far less hair formats and configurations. 3. No Tattoos. This sucks!!! 4. No other accessories besides glasses? Give me a break. 5. While some of my avatars improved the majority of those remaining are a far cry from their former selves, especially my Matari characters. 6. Clothing choices REALLY suck bad!!!! 7. The parameters of facial expression are far less than before. 8. No ability to move the eye focus/direction on it's own without moving the head. It looks to me like a half ass job. You should have delayed deployment until you got it right. You gave us less choices and ability to create.
Lux Scindere Caldari Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.01.21 04:13:00 - [157] Edited by: Lux Scindere on 21/01/2011 04:15:31 +1 To showing a preview of the new portraits various compressed versions when finalising. (if possible) @daool try toggling the video settings whilst inside the CC, worked for me might work for you.
Lusty Wench	Posted - 2011.01.21 04:33:00 - [158] Originally by: i hatechosingnames Edited by: i hatechosingnames on 20/01/2011 11:44:56 please please please add some more weird hairstyles... i miss my psycho gallente hair style :( YES THIS!!
Phelix Maxx	Posted - 2011.01.21 04:39:00 - [159] Edited by: Phelix Maxx on 21/01/2011 04:43:28 Originally by: Marcus Gillian 8. No ability to move the eye focus/direction on it's own without moving the head. Actually, you can. When taking the snapshot, just click on the eye and drag, they most definitely move. Originally by: Marcus Gillian 2. Far less hair formats and configurations. 3. No Tattoos. This sucks!!! 4. No other accessories besides glasses? Give me a break. 5. While some of my avatars improved the majority of those remaining are a far cry from their former selves, especially my Matari characters. 6. Clothing choices REALLY suck bad!!!! All that, however, I do agree with, as do most it seems. I can't wait for them to add tattoos again. It's a shame that those fun things didn't happen with this update. Also, one suggestions that hasn't been mentioned: How about letting us pause and save a character creation session so that we can resume and finalize later? Some of us don't have that many hours in a row to devote to tweaking characters. I'd like to take my time and create the character I want, but it would be nice if we didn't have to do it all in one sitting.
Raigir Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.21 04:50:00 - [160] Originally by: CCP Caedmon Thanks for the feedback. I can confirm that Akaylah and Razin are right. The starting point for recustomization will be your character as you left him or her. As for the undo bar, AKA the history slider, it wasn¦t quite ready to be released. We plan to get it back into the character creator soon. I am glad to hear this. However, I would like to extend the question out a little further. When we go to recustomize our portrait, will the portrait we finished with the 1st time, be our starting point? Because I would like to be able to change something as simple as the lighting without affecting in any way my body position/facial expression etc., I had those where I wanted them, just wanna change one details.
Gloredon	Posted - 2011.01.21 04:51:00 - [161] I have a couple serious issues with the new character creator. 1. The sunglass are all the exact same frame and style. Wow! All this and no originality whatsoever in regards those. 2. No tattoos! What self-respecting Minmatar has no tattoos? 3. Hair color choices were VERY limited. No decent blondes, no oddball colors either. 4. I'm very saddened that my Caldari Achura looks so damned Japanese (no offense to Japanese women, but I've never been a fan). Her old character image had only a slightly Asian cast, but nothing I did allowed me to lose the epicanthic folds on her eyes this time. Boo! 5. We spend all that time working with the body and we don't get to even see it anywhere until the possible future release of Incarna? At least give us a full-body character capture so we can remember how hawt we made them before they turned into little busts. 6. No jewelry! 7. Really AWFUL drab clothing. Can we get some in-game rewards items that allow us to change our clothes, add tattoos, piercings, wild hair styles, etc. with Incarna? Maybe have a tattoo parlor and piercing shop, along with a hairstylist or three in each station? 8. I really wanted to make ONE of my characters a fat slob. No such luck. Capsuleers could very easily become such. Missed out on an opportunity there. I could go on. Overall, I liked the experience of the actual editor, and we definately have some nice options. But it seems we lost a lot as well (like a purple hood for one of my guys? gone, no chance of that.)
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.21 05:15:00 - [162] If you're updating at the weekend, CCP: Please remove the race-lock on clothing and hairstyles. Let every race and bloodline have access to every hairstyle and piece of clothing. Please, CCP. I and countless other players have been trying for three days now to get any kind of response from you about this. We just want an answer. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Typhado3 Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.21 05:18:00 - [163] Originally by: Gloredon 2. No tattoos! What self-respecting Minmatar has no tattoos? "A Minmatar without his markings is not considered a Minmatar at all. Such a one would be as alien to the Minmatar as a universe without God would be to the Amarr." - Chronicles Ironically this chornicle was released about the same time they said tattoo's wheren't gonna be in the first iteration ------------------------------ God is an afk cloaker
LeJen Minmatar The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.01.21 05:34:00 - [164] -------:My Positive & Negative Thoughts About The New Character Creator:------- Awesome. You guys have clearly put a lot of effort and it has certainly paid off. I feel more attached to my character now, and I can't wait until I can see the fully realized version in later versions. Very Intuitive! Without even clicking on the Question Mark for help I was able to manipulate the character without ever feeling confused. Noticeable improvement in performance. Although the clothing style felt like different variations of the same 4-5 templates, I think it was good to start out with. For female models, there is an unmistakable Asian appearance I couldn't change very easily, no matter what I did. Great Job on the hair. I'm loving how it falls around the character, especially for the female models. The Braided hair style is masterfully done in my opinion. The best I've seen in a game, and certainly not of a quality I would expect from a game where most players spend their time looking at ships rather than actual faces or portraits. For my particular race, bloodline, and gender of my Main character, (Minmatar, Vherokior, Female), I was really disappointed in the lack of a sufficiently dark complexion for the skin. It felt more like I was tuning the light settings rather than changing the complexion, looked as if I just left the beach were a modest tan. Even when I first created this character four years, I was still put off by the lack of darker choices; and now this new release adds salt onto the wound. Perhaps it has something to do with my chosen bloodline why only with my selection are those darker complexions absent. If this is the case, I seriously regret my bloodline choice today. I believe a darker complexion, should be available for all bloodlines and even all other races, too.Please address this issue. Thank You developers for all your hard work. I hope at least one of you sees, reads, and understands my thoughts & suggestions and considers them for implementation in some future release.
Vvaffel	Posted - 2011.01.21 06:06:00 - [165] Originally by: skye orionis Confirmation Image needs to be larger - use the 512 pixel version, the avatar on my client appears with her eyes closed, but this was impossible to see in the snapshots. Me too, I want a chance to redo it without paying >_< I spent an hour on it and now it looks like trash
Vvaffel	Posted - 2011.01.21 06:08:00 - [166] I want to be able to adjust mine again without paying, the closed eyes thing has ruined my entire portrait
Val Kaleth Minmatar Kippered Snacks	Posted - 2011.01.21 06:18:00 - [167] The blog lies, all it asked me was SAVE yes or no, no example picture, and now my avatar sucks. Shifty eyes...
Rhok Relztem Caldari CGMA Synergist Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.21 06:44:00 - [168] Originally by: Kalya Varr Edited by: Kalya Varr on 20/01/2011 08:19:51 Edited by: Kalya Varr on 20/01/2011 08:18:52 Originally by: Wenzl Originally by: Euphoriiia Perhaps before you do this, you should make sure everyone can get into the creator? I still get stuck at 'entering character creator'... Totally agree!! All this sounds really interesting, but I have no idea what everyone is talking about, because I too would like to create my character BUT CAN'T while I keep getting stuck at '"entering character creator". Somebody fix this please! My pc still crashes in the character creator, on SiSi worked just fine. and before someone starts about shaders, my vid card supports to 4.0 Originally by: Aetius Aurellius Originally by: Henricus Gaufridus Originally by: Gun Hog When I try to use the creator, EVE just hangs and if left alone too long, crashes my computer :( Am I screwed when the grace period ends? No idea, seems like CCP is paying more attention to fixing the actual gameplay stuff first. I have no idea if they're bothering with the character creator issues currently (or ever) because it affects a small minority of players (ie myself). It WOULD be nice, however, for CCP to acknowledge that there is an issue on their end on this. I don't see anything on the latest patch notes in regards to char creator issues. Have you tried **ing around with your graphics settings, and does your CPU meet minimum requirements (ie is it SSE2 capable)? Some people have managed to wiggle their way through the char creator by repeatedly playing with shader and texture levels... but it's not doing the trick for me on either of my machines. I moved all my settings to the lowest settings possible, with the same result...just hanging with the progress bar, everything else blank. Left it that way for 15 minutes, to no result. Originally by:** Gray Phantom Originally by: qou vadis Hi i noticed there were a couple of posts on the the enter char selection screen "hanging" i had this problem to start with but got round it by pressing esc key till settings window opens then clicking a few tabs along the top row ,and hey presto the char creator kicks in and u can get on and design your new toon I had the same problem and fix on one of my computers! This is ridiculous. There are still a LOT of players, myself included, who still cannot access the Character Creation, all with the same symptoms, yet CCP has not so much as acknowledged that there is a problem. My system meets the requirements to run EVE but without the new character portrait, sometime within the next few weeks, I, along with MANY others, won't be able to play because of this bug. I've tried all of the 'remedies' and suggestions posted by others throughout the forums but none has worked for me. I've tried changing bios settings, graphics setting in my system and in the EVE settings; I've logged in with all of my system defenses disabled; I've let the hung progress bar on the black screen just sit there for over half-an-hour thinking maybe it was just REALLY slow loading; I've tried using esc and messing with the settings window; I've tried full-screen and various windowed settings and resolutions... I'm stuck. Many others are stuck. CCP has said absolutely NOTHING about this issue and apparently doesn't give a rat's a*s about this problem or about those of us who are experiencing it. WTF CCP? How about throwing us a piece of cheese and at least tell us that this issue isn't being worked on currently. Then we can at least move on to a game that actually works on our systems.
MaahVin Gallente Kippered Snacks	Posted - 2011.01.21 07:02:00 - [169] they should allow unlimited changes to portraits until the system works right.
harry varmint	Posted - 2011.01.21 08:37:00 - [170] Yeah ,ccp ,implement all the forementioned changes,then perhaps only 0.3% of your subscribers would be able to run the client.
Makaio Gentilis Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age	Posted - 2011.01.21 11:44:00 - [171] I'm still mad that my backdoor brutor can't have all that shiny make-up anymore. Why weren't these "signature" elements of the old portraits ported into the new system?
Tapopo	Posted - 2011.01.21 12:20:00 - [172] Can I make a suggestion? Include the picture sizes of the forum and in game local etc during creation. Quite often the image does not look at all what you expect it to when it is shrank down.
Annesta Khardula Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.21 12:49:00 - [173] Since we have had a look at how our characters animate and we designed these characters from the head to the toes (even though only a bust is featured in the portrait), any plans on WiS being released soon thereafter?
i hatechosingnames Gallente Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.01.21 13:18:00 - [174] BTW what happened to the option of changing the colour of underwear... that even got a funny message in the original dev blog about the character creator...
Pingu Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.01.21 13:22:00 - [175] Edited by: Pingu on 21/01/2011 13:24:23 Edited by: Pingu on 21/01/2011 13:22:47 Real comment: more options needed. Microtransactions? First poster looking for plex-for-***-enhancement vanity add on x2. (compensation effect for small ** irl ofc, tick
Megan Ryder Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2011.01.21 13:56:00 - [176] I'm hoping that by then someone in the eve universe will invent hair dye as I was very disappointed in the choice of hair colour available. Is there any reason why the colour palette was so small? I can understand limiting skin colour, though a greyish blue would have been nice for old chars, but why the limit on hair colour?
AnSky BALKAN EXPRESS B A L E X	Posted - 2011.01.21 13:57:00 - [177] Absolutely non essential, pointless and ridiculus waste of assets, both of ccp dev workhours and user's hardware for handling it... This game is everything else but changing clothes on one's avatar. There are bigger and way more important issues than this.. imo
Adrasta	Posted - 2011.01.21 14:33:00 - [178] Originally by: Annesta Khardula any plans on WiS being released soon thereafter? Lets hope not. What a waste of programming time that is and since its the student committee... oh wait sorry CCP I mean... releasing it, it is going to be ****e. As is everything they have done since apocrypha :)
Marcus JuniusBrutus	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:04:00 - [179] Are all male Amarr supposed to have a hood? Although I did not add one, I am stuck with one for some reason and even the character re-editor patch only allows 1 of 3 options for me; 1. flesh coloured hood not up 2. all black face hood 2/3rds covered, no eyes and flesh coloured stripe at back of hood 3. all black face 50% hood covered, eyes visible, same flesh coloured stripe Can we have a 4th option please - i.e. no hood at all. Many thanks.
Evil piemaker	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:14:00 - [180] Edited by: Evil piemaker on 21/01/2011 15:15:48 All these whine posts towards CCP reminds me why IT "support" is so much "fun". When people run out of things to whine about in game, they'll whine about having nothing to whine about ... You should just take a step back listen to yourselves ffs. @ Adrasta: Why are you still here if everything since Apocrypha is ****e?
Tora Bushido	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:16:00 - [181] Would be nice to see more longer hair styles. And those sun glasses.....omg. A bit more cool please, not those 70's style.
Celgar Thurn Minmatar Department 10	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:20:00 - [182] re. Gloredon's post point #8 you can make your char into a fat slob to a degree.You can give them a 'Bash Street Kids comic-style' pregnant sort of swelled up stomach. But you can't go into more fat aspects such as fat head/fat other body parts etc.
Celgar Thurn Minmatar Department 10	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:26:00 - [183] Wow. My portrait doesn't look like the one I chose. I didn't make it that dark. It's going to have to be changed. Btw I think this update is the worst in the eight or so months I have been playing EVE. There was no consultation on the choices we were going to be offered. The racial differences have largely been wiped and we are all left looking homogenously human. Extremely disappointed. Along with the changes that have been made to Planetary Interaction it almost makes me want to quit playing but I shall stay and see how it plays out.
Astral Lateris	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:40:00 - [184] Thank you CCP
Adrasta	Posted - 2011.01.21 15:44:00 - [185] Originally by: Evil piemaker Edited by: Evil piemaker on 21/01/2011 15:15:48 @ Adrasta: Why are you still here if everything since Apocrypha is ****e? Because for a free chat app its not so bad I guess? :) Its not much for gameplay tho I'm afraid :)
Zasx	Posted - 2011.01.21 16:10:00 - [186] Still cant get threw it on either of my computers thats two accounts. They renew in two weeks I was going to buy a year now I am thinking of a month and see if they can fix it before I go back to WOW
MonkeyKiller02	Posted - 2011.01.21 16:15:00 - [187] Edited by: MonkeyKiller02 on 21/01/2011 16:16:13 I think this is character portrait is lame and is completely unnecessary use of ccp time and code. I fly a space ship I don't need to waste time on my pilots face; instead why not fix the balancing issues with battle-cruisers like the Drake and or develop a tech 2 version of it. Also the patch I tried to update eve crashed the program completely and now a window pops up and says I need "SSE2 Support needed to run the game". I'm sorry but these patches are to buggy and need to be tested better before release. I don't care if the patches take months to develop my game should not crash every time a patch is released and not developed to work properly.
Abramul Gallente StarFleet Enterprises Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:24:00 - [188] It seems a number of people including me are having lighting options not work. I believe this occurs on graphics cards without SM3 support: I'm running a Radeon X700, and the people I asked were running unspecified 'old cards'. I would suggest popping a warning on the second page along the lines of "Due to your graphics card being obsolete, lighting will not show in the character creator. Refer to http://www.eveonline.com/whatever/characterlighting.jpg for a table showing light colors, directions, and intensities as they will be rendered on the final portrait." Also, for those having trouble opening the character creator (or who are too lazy to create a portrait for all their characters), I'd suggest a third "use default" (or "have server create a random portrait") option. As for the character creator options, I'd like to see: -Old backgrounds available (should be fairly easy) -'Closest match to old character' option once you're done with clothes, tattoos, and such. This would probably have to be limited to matching clothes, lighting, and other non-sculptable options.
Mick Dealer	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:36:00 - [189] I redid my char after the update but he still has a hood on him in game, even though I did not create him with one nor save him with one. I am disappointed that this issue was not fixed. I hope it will be fixed soon. As well, for the future, you might consider allowing the player to go back and forth between the character creator and the in game UI before they accept the picture. This would allow the player to see the proposed portrait "in context". This is important because the portrait can look good in the creator but not be acceptable in game. Finally, you need to warn people to remember that it is possible to save the portrait with the eyes closed so be careful. ps. Ignore Monkeykiller. He's just cranky today Cheers Mick
Katie Kincaid	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:45:00 - [190] Edited by: Katie Kincaid on 21/01/2011 17:45:30 Would have been better if you got a portrait like you've made it in the creator. I was perfectly happy with mine but then the cached one changed to the server rendered ingame and a day later it changed on the login screen too I wanted closed eyes and hair that follows the laws of gravity I find it a bit odd that a lot of customizability was removed (tatoo, direction of eyes, more variation of ... everything), makes it look like it all was a rushed job. edit: also got unwanted clipping errors :/
Khanid Overlord	Posted - 2011.01.21 18:09:00 - [191] Originally by: Mick Dealer I redid my char after the update but he still has a hood on him in game, even though I did not create him with one nor save him with one. I am disappointed that this issue was not fixed. I hope it will be fixed soon. This. I sent a petition asking for my 'magic hood' to be removed.
shonajane	Posted - 2011.01.21 18:50:00 - [192] do we have to wait till next dt to see character change because mine hasn`t changed
Adarynin Wiland	Posted - 2011.01.21 18:52:00 - [193] Sorry, if I missed an obvious answer, I didn't read the whole thread. But I do not see any character in the creator, I only see teeth. I waited for today's patch... I switched all creator settings to low quality, low textures, no physical simulation... windowed mode and smallest resolution... No improvement. Otherwise, I have no problems playing EVE with shaders=low, textures=medium, LOD=high, in fullscreen with the biggest resolution. (ATY Radeon X1600) What happens if I cannot create a new character before the deadline?
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2011.01.21 19:15:00 - [194] Edited by: SencneS on 21/01/2011 19:16:51 While I like the idea of the ability to "re-create" what I want to know is... 1) Why can't Amarrian's have glasses? 2) Why does Amarrian's have such poor clothing choices in baby turd browns and greens. If you're keeping to the colors, where is the GOLD!!? 3) Why do some races/sexes have an extra layer of clothing "Outer Top", a top that goes over the shirt but under the jacket, yet others don't? 4) Why does (I forget which bloodline) Gallente men have the pale white skin coloring, as in so pale you look dead? Most other races would LOVE this skin coloring, like a Caldari, with their dark black outfits, they could make some striking looking characters. 5) Why do "Caucasian" females have "manly" noses? When the "Asian" character females have feminine noses? 6) Why must I have pants on if my Amarrian top is a single piece skirt that almost comes down to the knees? I mean you can't even see the underwear, why must I have pants on! For that matter where are the shorts?? 7) Why can't I go barefoot? I'm sure those Minmatar animals hate the idea of shoes!! 8) Lastly why do fat men look pregnant? I'm sorry to say, if you want to have a fat cat male character you're out of luck, or you look pregnant! Your gut will look like someone shoved a basket ball underneath your shirt... There are plenty more, but these are some of the top one I just can't believe are in the release. It's a awesome creator and the best one I've seen. Just all it's glorious features advancements there is one.. What the F*#$ thing missing or something crazy. I don't mean to sound ungrateful what CCP has done here is masterful and raises the bar for EVERY game that has a Character creator, but it shouldn't have been released in this almost beta feeling stage. Amarr for Life
TYBURNTREE Minmatar United Amarr Templar Legion Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.01.21 19:31:00 - [195] All this talk of the character creator has me exicted. Only problem is, I can't get into it and I know I'm not alone. My progress bar goes to 100% and hangs. CCP, why the wall of silence on this one? Can we at least get a "we know it's a problem and we're fixing it when" I feel like the kid who didn't get invited to the birthday party! :(
Eris Gundarson	Posted - 2011.01.21 19:38:00 - [196] Originally by: Rhok Relztem Originally by: Kalya Varr Edited by: Kalya Varr on 20/01/2011 08:19:51 Edited by: Kalya Varr on 20/01/2011 08:18:52 Originally by: Wenzl Originally by: Euphoriiia Perhaps before you do this, you should make sure everyone can get into the creator? I still get stuck at 'entering character creator'... Totally agree!! All this sounds really interesting, but I have no idea what everyone is talking about, because I too would like to create my character BUT CAN'T while I keep getting stuck at '"entering character creator". Somebody fix this please! My pc still crashes in the character creator, on SiSi worked just fine. and before someone starts about shaders, my vid card supports to 4.0 Originally by: Aetius Aurellius Originally by: Henricus Gaufridus Originally by: Gun Hog When I try to use the creator, EVE just hangs and if left alone too long, crashes my computer :( Am I screwed when the grace period ends? No idea, seems like CCP is paying more attention to fixing the actual gameplay stuff first. I have no idea if they're bothering with the character creator issues currently (or ever) because it affects a small minority of players (ie myself). It WOULD be nice, however, for CCP to acknowledge that there is an issue on their end on this. I don't see anything on the latest patch notes in regards to char creator issues. Have you tried **ing around with your graphics settings, and does your CPU meet minimum requirements (ie is it SSE2 capable)? Some people have managed to wiggle their way through the char creator by repeatedly playing with shader and texture levels... but it's not doing the trick for me on either of my machines. I moved all my settings to the lowest settings possible, with the same result...just hanging with the progress bar, everything else blank. Left it that way for 15 minutes, to no result. Originally by:** Gray Phantom Originally by: qou vadis Hi i noticed there were a couple of posts on the the enter char selection screen "hanging" i had this problem to start with but got round it by pressing esc key till settings window opens then clicking a few tabs along the top row ,and hey presto the char creator kicks in and u can get on and design your new toon I had the same problem and fix on one of my computers! This is ridiculous. There are still a LOT of players, myself included, who still cannot access the Character Creation, all with the same symptoms, yet CCP has not so much as acknowledged that there is a problem. My system meets the requirements to run EVE but without the new character portrait, sometime within the next few weeks, I, along with MANY others, won't be able to play because of this bug. I've tried all of the 'remedies' and suggestions posted by others throughout the forums but none has worked for me. I've tried changing bios settings, graphics setting in my system and in the EVE settings; I've logged in with all of my system defenses disabled; I've let the hung progress bar on the black screen just sit there for over half-an-hour thinking maybe it was just REALLY slow loading; I've tried using esc and messing with the settings window; I've tried full-screen and various windowed settings and resolutions... I'm stuck. Many others are stuck. CCP has said absolutely NOTHING about this issue and apparently doesn't give a rat's a*s about this problem or about those of us who are experiencing it. WTF CCP? How about throwing us a piece of cheese and at least tell us that this issue isn't being worked on currently. Then we can at least move on to a game that actually works on our systems. Ditto - no char creator at all - HELP!!!
Vonola	Posted - 2011.01.21 20:04:00 - [197] Originally by: TYBURNTREE All this talk of the character creator has me exicted. Only problem is, I can't get into it and I know I'm not alone. My progress bar goes to 100% and hangs. CCP, why the wall of silence on this one? Can we at least get a "we know it's a problem and we're fixing it when" DITTO>.........
Neryman Tulocky	Posted - 2011.01.21 20:21:00 - [198] You can avoid this problem by setting the graphics-details to a lower level. Im not sure atm, but it's named somehow like "best Performance" or similar. Especially the shaders seem to put some graphics-cards into trouble. I'm using a quite old Gforce7600GT an was able till now, to play on the highest settings. Playing ist still possible but the char-editor works only on low quality. The risk of doing so is most probably, to create something, which will look different on higher settings or even later, when CCP has rendered the new Chars on high quality.
Rhok Relztem Caldari CGMA Synergist Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:11:00 - [199] Originally by: Neryman Tulocky You can avoid this problem by setting the graphics-details to a lower level. Im not sure atm, but it's named somehow like "best Performance" or similar. Especially the shaders seem to put some graphics-cards into trouble. I'm using a quite old Gforce7600GT an was able till now, to play on the highest settings. Playing ist still possible but the char-editor works only on low quality. The risk of doing so is most probably, to create something, which will look different on higher settings or even later, when CCP has rendered the new Chars on high quality. Your solution doesn't work for everyone. That was one of the first things I tried and I'm still getting the hung progress bar.
Caflis	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:33:00 - [200] Same here, character generator progress bar to 100%, then hangs. Same as a lot of people. I thought I'd be patient once I read that another patch was coming out, and I waited. Then I had to wait another day. Fine. Waited. OK, patch is here. Still can't use the character generator. My computer is on the older side, and I have to turn graphics down normally to play. But it seems I'm not alone. CCP, fix it or figure out what settings we need to use and tell us.
Roozter Alpha Empire	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:35:00 - [201] Thank you CCP. I re-created 5 of my 9 characters and screwed up 4 of them. I just went back and fixed those 4 and I am very happy with them. I think I may stick around for a while now. Cheers
aurly	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:32:00 - [202] i can't enter the character builder. My hd is spun up tight the cooling fans are running full tilt and the the builder remains stuck on enter. I do not like anything about this new feature. it is the worst yet !
Seppu Kiri Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:34:00 - [203] Thanks for the chance to recustomize! Very happy with my portrait.
R'shka N'kel Amarr Astral Onion	Posted - 2011.01.22 01:48:00 - [204] Edited by: R''shka N''kel on 22/01/2011 01:48:30 Took the opportunity offered to redo the portrait but is still showing the old one in game. New one is showing on login screen for now. Bit of a shame because I preferred the new one. Apart from that I like the new char creator very much. Edit - new one is showing here though...oddness.
Ashara Jinnkai	Posted - 2011.01.22 02:53:00 - [205] Has anone at CCP or in EVE using a MAC found a way to see your entire body in the creator? I can still only see my teeth, and if chosen my outer clothing, pants, and shoes. Sunglasses appear as a ghostly outline. In certain instances toggling clothing off allows a brief glimpse of my legs, but so far never once my face, hair, arms, or torso; and no chance to edit any part of myself. This has made it very hard to design an avatar I want to be associated with. I have tried the most recent updates, and almost every graphics setting combination possible. Nothing has helped. I have no problems with playing EVE, no delays, no slow downs, nothing. I just need help seeing, well, "me" in the creator. I worry the grace period will pass and force me to just make a random avatar I will not later be able to change before this problem is fixed.
WheatGrass Gallente Silent but Friendly	Posted - 2011.01.22 04:57:00 - [206] I had a second go with the Character tool and am pleased with the results. Thank you. It's very nice. I checked my character sheet in game. Within the character sheet, I see that my portrait has reverted to the old one. Yet, in local chat, the new portrait is showing. When launching the Eve client, the character selection page shows the correct portraits. During my previous session today, the correct portrait appeared on the character sheet. Now, the character sheet has reverted to showing the old portrait.
Dark Cylestre	Posted - 2011.01.22 06:52:00 - [207] same by me, login sheet is the new one (after recreation) ingame is the sheet from first creation (restarting eve did not solve the problem)
Captain Campion Corp 1 Allstars Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.01.22 09:09:00 - [208] +1 my portrait in-game has reverted to the old one, although the login screen shows the correct one
Propoli Minmatar When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2011.01.22 10:54:00 - [209] Edited by: Propoli on 22/01/2011 11:04:12 I have changed portraits on 2 characters and cleared cache and they are still showing the old portraits. I now have no option to redo character.. is this a known bug or do you have to wait until after DT to have your new portrait go live? Please ignore just read patch notes: Quote: "Image cache for portraits has been updated. After an image is changed, there might be a delay before it appears in the game (2 hours for characters, 1 day for corporation logos and 1 week for the alliance logos)." Cheers.
Johnny Kelso Gallente Interstellar Exploration Enterprises	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:05:00 - [210] I have updated my character (yesterday), and although the welcome screen (and this forum)shows the new one, my ingame picture is the old one. Is this a known bug? Its a big Universe!
Lillica Black	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:18:00 - [211] I've played around with the creator for a bit now and I have concluded that it's the worst character creator that i've ever used. Where's the undo option? Where's the animation toggle. How are you supposed to see what little tweaks do, if the sodding character keeps moving? Why do the morph tools suddenly vanish for the face for no apparent reason, meaning I can no longer tweak things? Why is it that 50% of the time, upon starting up the character creator, does one of the morph glows become permanent and not turn off no matter what I do, forcing a game quit to get rid of them? Why was there more customisability in the original creator, I always thought upgrading something meant to make it better? Why does the creator need higher specs than the main game in order to run properly?
Juliet Burker	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:39:00 - [212] Originally by: Johnny Kelso I have updated my character (yesterday), and although the welcome screen (and this forum)shows the new one, my ingame picture is the old one. Is this a known bug? Cleare the cache on your client
Mace X5	Posted - 2011.01.22 16:02:00 - [213] It would be really cool for the future recustomization functinality if the server wouldn't only remember the morph settings for the character itself, but also the angel, zoom, expression etc for the portrait stage. Saying this because after the very welcome recustomization I am now very pleased with my character picture and I don't think I'd change it again because the angle was rather hard to get right, however if I could apply tattoos or whatever or even change the haircut once in a while without spending another 30 minutes to recreate the shot itself this would be very, very cool. Next point is, you may have this planned already but maybe not so I'll say it anyways, for Incarna it would be very useful to have the ability to change the avatar without changing the picture, much like people in rl who don't get a new driver's license picture after every haircut. Would make me very glad if these points were implemented. BTW the character creation is really amazing already, can't imagine how cool it will be once all the planned assets are implemented.
Blueright	Posted - 2011.01.22 19:11:00 - [214] A lot of u all characters look grate . i say that cause im having such a hard time applying anything to my character. hair eyes clothing any thing.i think instructions need to be made more clear .as to how it all work . every time i try to create my character . all i get is a head no body or part of a torso . an apply button would help greatly.javascript:insertsmilie('','WebPost','text');
Blueright	Posted - 2011.01.22 19:24:00 - [215] A lot of u all characters look grate . i say that cause I'm having such a hard time applying anything to my character. hair eyes clothing any thing.I think instructions need to be made more clear .as to how it all work . every time I try to create my character . all I get is a head no body or part of a torso . an apply button would help greatly. or drop down windows that allow u more control in the Creation proses. truthfully just better instruction with in the character creator would serf-ice.
Joshawu Minden	Posted - 2011.01.22 21:02:00 - [216] Edited by: Joshawu Minden on 22/01/2011 21:02:07 EDIT: never mind
Nivl	Posted - 2011.01.22 21:18:00 - [217] This new "feature" stinks! 1. I liked my old picture just fine. Why not give the option of keeping the old one? 2. Most of the new pictures look like Barbie or Ken. Where is the old wardog (yarr!) that defined the Eve player? One eye, missing half an ear, **** pillage and burn but not necessarily in that order. 3. I finally broke down and created the portrait. After I hit save, the result did not look like what I had created. 4. IMHO character portraits wasn't broke, so the time "fixing" it was wasted. Time that was desperately needed to fix the real problems with Eve, like the increasing lag since Incursion was installed. 5. If I get a chance for a do-over, aviator glasses are a must. In the meantime, anybody got a paper bag?
Mumtaz Khan	Posted - 2011.01.22 21:50:00 - [218] I really like the new character customization. The only problem I seem to have with it is the hood option on Amarrian characters: When I made my first character, I could not find the hood, so I made him without one. Yet, I got "ninja hooded" when I relogged later. When I made my character the second time, I found the hood (under toggle options on the robe), but it doesn't show up in-game. What a bummer.
Sacrificum Salutor	Posted - 2011.01.23 00:39:00 - [219] So far like new portrait tool, but sthng was f... i made first avatar, not all options worked, ok nv, got possibilities for new portrait, did it and what i've got after re-logging 3 hours later, in my own overview got oldest portrait, view from other my char is more interesting because its slightly different shot, not that one i've accepted and got few hours before but other one from 4th shots i've made today, difference is simple i've chosen portrait with closed eyes (got it on start up screen only) but actually ingame i've got eyes visible \o/ i'm not blind any more! paranoia.
Oleski O.Tac	Posted - 2011.01.23 06:08:00 - [220] Edited by: Oleski on 23/01/2011 06:09:02 I want to thank you for the chance at redoing the portrait. However, I did this and the old one still shows in my Character sheet and top left corner of screen whereas my new one shows in chat box and login screen... Think you CCP guys could help me out on this one? I don't want to have a 'split persona.' lol If possible, could I get a reply via mail? Thank you!
Props II	Posted - 2011.01.23 10:02:00 - [221] I updated mine yesterday and now in game he has no profile picture at all after clearing cache. Also the picture shows on this forum but its not the one I chose, I had his eyes shut. It was actually showing that picture yesterday until I re-logged, now its using some other shot. Please advise if there are known issues with recreating the character profile picture.
Sacrificum Salutor	Posted - 2011.01.23 10:29:00 - [222] Originally by: CCP Adida CCP Caedmon's new dev blog covers the new character creator and a chance to recustomize your character. To read the full blog click here. For what that blog? I've accepted portrait and got it for few hour, then NEXT LOG IN CHANGE IT TO DIFFERENT ONE!!! STILL WAITING FOR ANSWER ON MY PETITION, BUT THERE SILENCE...
Beltze Sorgin Minmatar L V B Industries	Posted - 2011.01.23 11:34:00 - [223] I personally think they don't know what's wrong with the character creator & won't admit that fact.
Eric Raeder Minmatar East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.23 15:43:00 - [224] In my display and graphics settings, "low quality characters" is automatically checked, and "physically simulated cloth and hair" is automatically unchecked. I cannot change these settings. I can only assume these settings are forced on me because of limitations of my graphics card. Limited as the full character creator may be, it is far more limited with these options forced on me. I am using a Radeon HD 3850 512MB graphics card, it is about 3 years old. I don't have any trouble running the Eve client with full graphics settings with this card, it is only the character creator that gives me trouble. Has CCP announced what capabilities a system's graphics card must have in order to run the character creator with full options? If so, can someone point me to the announcement? If not, can I request a dev look into us and tell us what our systems must have to actually use the full capabilities of the new character creator?
Suveitar	Posted - 2011.01.23 19:03:00 - [225] Dear CCP Please allow all players to recustomize their character a limited number of times. This would allow all players a chance to learn to use the character creator to its fullest (not everybody has an account on the test server), and try out different possibilities for making a portrait. Right now there is still an issue with server renders being different than what you see in the character creator. I admit that the differenses are subtle, (a blinking eye, the curve of a mouth, the softness of the render), but even subtle changes can make a huge impact on the way facial features are interpreted.
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2011.01.23 19:14:00 - [226] The way my portrait looks in-game and the way it looks on the forums are completely different. Looking at my portrait with my main account and then from my alt's account, they're completely different. They don't even look like the same person. Lighting effects do not work at all when I'm trying to create a portrait. The controls for changing my body shapes were not working at all. Hair styles weren't loading properly some of the time. Preview photos of your portrait are much too small. CCP, we really need to fix a few things and give this yet another try. What I created, like, and see from my own account in-game: What others see, and what is on the forums: --- All 387 skills trained.
Katanah Tsaiukun RedSun Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:21:00 - [227] Once just doesn't seem to be enough. I used the re-customization to change the fact that my hair did not meet my shoulders. Like I was wearing an invisible coat. In the CC screen, this appeared to be fixed, so I accepted that change. The problem now is: It didn't fix it. The hair was fixed in the CC display, and finalized, yet ingame the hair is still floating, and not only that, but when I went into the re-customization, it changed the opacity of makeup. There is far too much gloss on my lips, and not dark enough eye-shadows. If I had known these didn't persist through the re-customization, this wouldn't have been a big issue. First: You dont like the overall outcome. Second: You fix the problems you had earlier without remembering to check all the other little details. Third: You have learned from both mistakes. Just my thoughts.
ChronoLynx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:56:00 - [228] My new portrait is somewhat lacking in comparison to the one I made 7 yeas ago. I am already missing the fact that the "Metal Bits" in/on my characters face are gone. I designed my character to look much like I invisioned the Sansha's Nation populace to look like. Now that that the metal bits are gone it seems kinda strange. At least I managed to make Him look mostly like myself. Only offside is the fact I couldn't quite get the facial hair I wanted, but that might change in the future. Would also like to see "Ambulation" come around soon. That way I might be able to actually play the game again because the wife-to-be will want to play again! Her stance was "No Full Avatar, I don't Want to Play this Right Now," and the introduction of a Full Avatar to which she was able to customize made her think this game might have hope to play again.
Hazodon	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:35:00 - [229] I never actually got a do over on my portrait. I guess this was offered before I made mine. I was happy when I created it but after the lighting was applied in game it completely changed the look. This is a problem because the lighting effects do not work for me in the creator. I couldn't know how it would look in game. Is there any chance I could get the do over I never had? I feel everyone should have several chances at creating the portrait they want considering some of the problems that exist. Please consider this CCP.
Mick Dealer	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:37:00 - [230] Lol, I was given a chance to redo my char, but lookie, the hood is still there, in the form of the pink ring. Again, that's not the portrait I saved and finalized. What is going on? I said what?
Laya Hangover	Posted - 2011.01.24 06:49:00 - [231] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 19/01/2011 14:21:47 Originally by: Leon Razor 1) Race and bloodline limitations I like my race and bloodline. I originally picked them partially based on the in-game description and partially on how the original portraits looked. Since I don't get to re-pick this for the new character creator, I'm stuck with whatever CCP decided these bloodlines will look like. One example, my original avatar was black. Now he cannot be black. I feel this could be offensive to a lot of people. Exactly. There's been threads and posts about this for months now, even proposals to change bloodline and/or race and/or at least swap portraits with other races/bloodlines - and neither CCP or the CSM (who are supposed to represent us) have EVER written any comment about this issue. When I picked my character I chose the one who looked what was the best available to me at that time; only Achura and Khanids had access to this nice sleek hairstyle. Now I'm forced to look asian and have a very tanned look, while my original character was pretty pale and looked european. This is definitely NOT what I would have picked in the frist place, it's just forced upon me. Yes I know, some people couldn't care less, well do I care a lot! CSM? CCP? Stop ignoring this issue? hey thx ccp for nothing its impossible for me to create a chare that looks like my old one where are my cat-eyes and my tatoos both are main features of my old char?!? and where is my hair the two "rasta" hairstyles just look like ****, i dont want to have half of my face hiden behind hair, i only want to cover my ears like in my old char. why cant i change my bloodline i only choose it for its look that i can't recreate now -.- dont get me wrong i love the new chareditor, but with the stuff you put in there to create my char it sucks big time. hell i would build the stuff i need myself but i cant upload it to your server :p and what are the glasses? 7 times the same glass only with different darkness wtf why do you need 7 moddels for that its just texture opacity and color. i hope all this gets changed before i am forced to recreate my chars or i stop playing eve because atm i only log in from time to time trading a bit to get 1 plex per month and updating skills, but if you kill my char why should i go on paying for basicly not playing the game like i do now.
Persephone Astrid The Bastards	Posted - 2011.01.24 07:18:00 - [232] Edited by: Persephone Astrid on 24/01/2011 07:20:09 For the love of god, please add a chat window icon preview to the final stage of avatar creation. I used the free do-over for my avatar, and the resulting in-game chat icon is unspeakably vile. I wish I had never altered the avatar at all now. sad face
L Tonkamoa	Posted - 2011.01.24 12:57:00 - [233] I am not happy about the new creator. I can not create the same or similar photo of my toon from before. What happened to tattoos for mimatar? And the only long hair option for males is dreads? WTF is that about? Boring at best.
Rock Zappa	Posted - 2011.01.24 13:14:00 - [234] Please quit putting this hood on me whenever I'm not looking. Do you really think I'm that ugly? You allowed me to fix this problem before after sneaking a hood on me. Now the hood has reappeared again without my having placed it. Will I have to file a bug report in order to re-customize my portrait again?
Hola Aeriae	Posted - 2011.01.24 16:26:00 - [235] Can't find that long haircut for gallente dudes, that was available on test. Why it was removed? I thought at release character creator will get MOAR, but it got fever features. Never expected such meanie act!
Rocket Aeter Point of Impact Imajiaca	Posted - 2011.01.24 18:28:00 - [236] Was just wondering if there is any chance that you guys will make like a scientist lab coat for us science noobs.
Salandra SurenWorh	Posted - 2011.01.24 20:35:00 - [237] First and although there are several details needing some review, i'd like to congratulate CCP dev team for your work !! I'm impressed by all major improvements you bring on the game since its first release. Concerning the character creator, i passed at least 2h recustomizing only one of my characters, with a great pleasure !! That being said, i'm like others gamers, perfectionist and fussy on details , so even in a positive feeling, i have to write back all things that should be reviewed, to my mind : (some have already been brought up) - An UNDO function would be great !!! - Pretty good 3D engine but many bugs on shadows and hair !! - More possibilities in hair colours and hair style !! - More more clothes !! ^^ And clothes customization if possible. - More lights (like previous version of character creator) - In a future release, please don't put limits (moreover illogical) on your great improvements ! For examples, ok we can't change physical appearance since the character is finalized, but we could change hair style, hair colour, clothes, even make up, like in real life :) As well, it would be cool sometimes to change portrait (like posture, facial expressions). Of course, the best would be an animated portrait that we can move :)). I know i know, i might as well wait for incarna ! - Some accessories - Animation control !! (it's quite annoying to modify facial features when this face is moving ^^) I say all that because Eve is highly specialized, i could even say "professional" great game and that's why you should make the players feel "owning" the game, not juste playing it. So avoid (when technicaly possible) to put limits on minor features, mostly those who concern "role play" and "unique" aspects. Anyway, it doesn't take anything away from your work !!! Also i have no doubt some of these features will be implemented in a future release. But it think this is important because like some players said, some aspects seem to be more limited than in previous version. ______________________________ Sorry for my unperfect english
Josephine Blackpearl	Posted - 2011.01.25 03:47:00 - [238] good good, but im shocked to see the diffrence from character editor to the result on screen ingame. Stretched? it does not look at all as it did in the editor :(
Hinaa Gallente High Voltage Industries	Posted - 2011.01.25 04:39:00 - [239] Char creator is not working for me ... My comp is old, ok. But I still can play Eve. I don't really care about my portrait but what will happen if I don't have the new one and time is up ? I don't really mind if I get 'generic' one. My only option is to pay a visit to a friend with stronger hardware but thats not exactly solution I would like to choose. Any feedback from you CCP guys ? I see there is quite a lot of ppl who have the same problem...
James Golden Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.25 09:25:00 - [240] pay attention to above post, don't forget about the ancient and loyal eve players with old comps
A N Other	Posted - 2011.01.25 12:26:00 - [241] Help! How do I get to recustomize my avatar? I don't get the "flagged for recustomization" popup and I can't see any option related to it in the ESCAPE menu. I sent a petition but I just got a message back, the same one in the dev blog. Will there be another recustomization in the next few days? It mentioned about tattoos and other things.
Jolareian	Posted - 2011.01.25 23:06:00 - [242] Edited by: Jolareian on 25/01/2011 23:07:21 I found this in the "Known Issues" under EVE Support on the left hand side: "Some character may appear different from the character selection screen to what appears in game." This has been 4 days, for me, that my portraits are still not synched up. Is there any projection on this being fixed, and is the redo (the second attempt at the portrait) saved on the servers? I've tried using the search function on the Eve site and knowledge base and I'm not getting anything really relevant. Primarily, I'm concerned because my 2nd attempt was the one that I wanted, but I can't see it anywhere except for in the character select and on the web page under My Characters. Thanks for any input, devs or other players. EDIT: Oh, and yes, I deleted every bit of cache...such to the point to logging into a different PC with Eve on it, and that never logged into Eve since Incursion was released. So no cache issue possible there.
Adarynin Wiland Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.26 00:09:00 - [243] Holy Shoot, Mother Of Frig, Jesus H. Christ On A Bicycle this toon is sexy I want to marry her. PS: Uh. What I meant to say was: I reinstalled everything, deleted caches and whatnot. My display problem has disappeared today. Guess I cannot see all the effects since some settings are indistinguishable, but, dang, this first lady was hawt... I took a screenshot, but I will never be able to recreate her... PPS: Sebestior ladies rule.
Rico Minali Gallente Sons Of 0din C0NVICTED	Posted - 2011.01.26 13:28:00 - [244] Originally by: Hinaa Char creator is not working for me ... My comp is old, ok. But I still can play Eve. I don't really care about my portrait but what will happen if I don't have the new one and time is up ? I don't really mind if I get 'generic' one. My only option is to pay a visit to a friend with stronger hardware but thats not exactly solution I would like to choose. Any feedback from you CCP guys ? I see there is quite a lot of ppl who have the same problem... Alot of people gettng this, including my brother, who has basically said if he cant even get that to work, tehn he is stopping bothering with eve. Also, yeah you make an avatar and it just doesnt look quite the same in game... Im not happy with mine in game even though i liked it at character creation. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
JcJet Caldari Pretenders Inc Tower of Dark Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.26 15:21:00 - [245] I really looking forward to new glasses While i waited for new avatars, i've there was 2 things that i've dreamed for my avatar, a hair and glasses like this: I've really liked my avatar from xbox live :) There is a simillar hair, but glasses... i actually created a cool dude already, and there is only a small detail left for perfect, glasses ---
Motseth	Posted - 2011.01.26 19:10:00 - [246] At first it looked like all chars would continue to look the same but after some time I found out that is not true, I like the new chars Good job CCP
Inquisitor Magneto	Posted - 2011.01.26 19:40:00 - [247] Edited by: Inquisitor Magneto on 26/01/2011 19:43:37 Originally by: CCP Caedmon Originally by: Am Loh do we have to submit a petition to get a go again? No. At the point when we implement the UI changes all characters who have already completed the character customization process will automatically receive another chance to recustomize. There is no need to raise a petition. unfortunately i think there is a reason. it seems your character creator still has some bugs or there is info missiong. you need to be upfront of why some attributes are for a race and why others are not. you need to be upfront that you are stuck in your class and what you disignate goes with that class. you need to explain to people that their is no real freedom on character recreation. what you see is what you get. you need to be upfront that there will be bugs and portriats will not be updated or will have issues updating. While the grace period is open we as paying customers should be allowed to recreate our character as many times as we want until the grace period is over or at least be allowed to create a character 5 to 6 times. if you dont want a petition formed then you should be more informative or what we can and cannot do with this new limited character creator. While i am a fan of this game and its features i dont want you guys to act like another company who are idiots in the mmo feild and pr section(craptic studios) we are simply asking that you give us correct information and be clear about this new system. in return you will be given your time you need to update and change as needed.
Drunk Guardian Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.26 20:04:00 - [248] Inquisitor Magneto how did you get the hood option? I looked but could only find the robes... I found I liked the colors better between robes as the game layering changed one portion vs the final change between them. I also have the issue (I'm told its my own graphics shader but hey why am I being penalized here) I see my characters picture as Drunk Guardian Which is quite different. I got the brows the way I wanted but could not make the beard go salt and pepper.... only to find out the master game settings gave me instead washed out brows and beard... :( Kudos on the creator, Complaints on the lack of intuitiveness and the missing character flavor items we have grown to know and love
Estrella Escatore	Posted - 2011.01.26 21:42:00 - [249] Edited by: Estrella Escatore on 26/01/2011 21:43:21 I think I would be rather happy with the new character creator, provided I could use it properly. My computer is, indeed, old, but it has run EVE with little to no lag so far. However, when I attempted to use the character creator (all graphic settings minimized...), the model took about fifteen minutes to load. After customizing my character and having little idea of what it would look like on high detail, I entered the game and was quite dismayed with what I saw. Estrella Escatore My character, once decorative and elegant, came out looking like Roseanne Barr. I appreciate CCP's attempts to design a better character creator, but I would appreciate such attempts far more if it weren't out of reach for players with older computers. I feel like EVE in general is a very agreeable game in terms of accessibility for players with old/feeble machines. The character creator, however, is not so agreeable.
PeeBubble	Posted - 2011.01.26 23:53:00 - [250] im really impressed with the new system hopefully they put a customisation tool ingame so it doesent have to be used only once on creation.
FreelancerJW Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:01:00 - [251] Love the new character creator :)
Abramul Gallente StarFleet Enterprises Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2011.01.27 16:23:00 - [252] While I wasn't able to recreate my old portrait, I've come to like my new one better. My Brutor character, however, is going to have to wait until his shiny sunglasses are back. Also, some of the Brutor skin colors seem a bit...pasty? Value's fine, but saturation is too low, so it comes out looking more dark grey than brown.
Henricus Gaufridus Amarr Cyrix Ltd. Tamanium	Posted - 2011.01.27 22:14:00 - [253] So, I'd love to try out this character creator. Unfortunately, NEITHER of my computers can actually get it working proper (one of them is more than capable of the requirements). CCP acknowledged there was an "issue", but doesn't seem that concerned with a "fix". Now, before you say "Well, they had to fix IMPORTANT GAMEPLAY issues first", they're fixing stupid little graphical issues: ie the Golden Retriever, the Magical Disappearing/Appearing Hoods, and so on. Why is this one seemingly being ignored?
Ivar Prongbeard	Posted - 2011.01.28 00:41:00 - [254] Originally by: Rico Minali Originally by: Hinaa Char creator is not working for me ... My comp is old, ok. But I still can play Eve. I don't really care about my portrait but what will happen if I don't have the new one and time is up ? I don't really mind if I get 'generic' one. My only option is to pay a visit to a friend with stronger hardware but thats not exactly solution I would like to choose. Any feedback from you CCP guys ? I see there is quite a lot of ppl who have the same problem... Alot of people gettng this, including my brother, who has basically said if he cant even get that to work, tehn he is stopping bothering with eve. Also, yeah you make an avatar and it just doesnt look quite the same in game... Im not happy with mine in game even though i liked it at character creation. Same with me,character creator crashes my PC,just wondering if after the grace period i will no longer be able to log in?
Vladikov Orrico	Posted - 2011.01.28 04:30:00 - [255] Originally by: Henricus Gaufridus So, I'd love to try out this character creator. Unfortunately, NEITHER of my computers can actually get it working proper (one of them is more than capable of the requirements). CCP acknowledged there was an "issue", but doesn't seem that concerned with a "fix". Now, before you say "Well, they had to fix IMPORTANT GAMEPLAY issues first", they're fixing stupid little graphical issues: ie the Golden Retriever, the Magical Disappearing/Appearing Hoods, and so on. Why is this one seemingly being ignored? I agree 100%. It just boggles me that CCP is fixing minor glitches in game and giving people extra tries at the character generator when there is a large portion of players that havent yet once been able to access the generator to make 1 single portrait. You would think a problem as severe as "we have players that can't even use one of the major features of this whole expansion" would get immediate and primary attention. Nope...apparently players not being able to see their hoods in game is more important than others' not even being able to try the whole process out. EPIC FAIL We feel ignored CCP!! We have been screaming about this issue with NO UPDATE or at the very least any kind of sense that you are working the issue at all. I exceed all recommended specs on my windows XP system.
Malefic Doomwing	Posted - 2011.01.28 05:40:00 - [256] Hey guis i just had a very werid problem. I did charactor recreation at an internet cafe and when i got back home ive updated eve to lastest. But right now i can't see my profile picture nor anyother's profile picture. I have deleted everything in cache but still can't fix this problem. Need Help Plz
Henricus Gaufridus Amarr Cyrix Ltd. Tamanium	Posted - 2011.01.28 09:19:00 - [257] Originally by: Vladikov Orrico I agree 100%. It just boggles me that CCP is fixing minor glitches in game and giving people extra tries at the character generator when there is a large portion of players that havent yet once been able to access the generator to make 1 single portrait. You would think a problem as severe as "we have players that can't even use one of the major features of this whole expansion" would get immediate and primary attention. Nope...apparently players not being able to see their hoods in game is more important than others' not even being able to try the whole process out. EPIC FAIL We feel ignored CCP!! We have been screaming about this issue with NO UPDATE or at the very least any kind of sense that you are working the issue at all. I exceed all recommended specs on my windows XP system. I meet all specs on one machine, exceed by far on the other, neither run it. Based on my petition responses and so forth, CCP's stance is that it's on the user's end, despite me having updated EVERYTHING. CCP's stance was similar when there was an issue with Mac users being unable to install Incursion 1.1.0 (they were blaming everyone's ISPs). As soon as the grace period is up (supposedly a month from the initial patch) I will be unable to log into Eve, unless they fix this. Based on the number of characters I see in local with no portraits, I would guess this affects at LEAST 10% of users, and as high as 15%. That's a damned high number of players to quit playing Eve when the grace period is up. CCP, what's your official stance on the character creator non-function?
Kiera Kain	Posted - 2011.01.28 11:11:00 - [258] How do I change my race/bloodline? I selected race and bloodline based on how the character looks, now the looks have changed to something I don't want. Also, one char I have is caldari deteis needs to have black hair. Why can't she have black hair now? Where has all the hair styles gone? Are they going to be added at a later date? Do we get re-customisation? If you're forcing a change to the fundamental look and feel of a race and bloodline, then let us change them. I don't like the new look, since this char is supposed to be a sister to my (rl) sister's char. If I can't change my race/bloodline to match roleplay/name, can I change my name to resemble my portrait (i.e. a more asian sounding name?)
chrinx	Posted - 2011.01.28 11:45:00 - [259] Edited by: chrinx on 28/01/2011 11:47:21 Can't you change the bloodline or somthing like that? Khanid look like my great great great grandfather.... i am 16. I like to do my character more like me, if you understand what i mean.
Tristam Xavier	Posted - 2011.01.28 17:35:00 - [260] A lot of people are saying that they can't access the character creator. Originally, I had this problem too. My game would just stop and freeze at the "Loading Character Creator" screen. After searching the internet, these are the steps that I took to get my Client to load the Character Creator. 1. After logging in, but before selecting your character, press ESC key. Then, in the video.options, select Optimize Video, and choose "Optimize for Performance". Click Apply. 2. Select your character, click yes and yes to enter character creator with low graphics settings. After the "Entering Character Creator" bar has fully loaded wait about a minute and then hit ESC twice to enter into the menu. 3. Click each tab in the game menu starting with the left tab (Video), click through each one allowing each screen to fully load. About when it loads the "About Eve" tab, the Character Generator should start. 4. After you can see your character, go back in the menu and optimize for Quality so you can get the full experience. I hope this helps. It worked for me.
HeavyReighn	Posted - 2011.01.28 17:43:00 - [261] Great idea with the new Character creator CCP, here are some suggestions for improvement: - More variation and customization options for clothes. - The hair could use some improvements, 70% of it looks fake. - Give people an option to customize lighting in portrait mode.(Manual control of number of light sources, angle, intensity, color). - Camera movement is too limited in portrait mode, and why is it always centered? - Manual control of poses would be nice, these generic ones are very boring. In short I would like more advanced controls please, don't just give us five presets for everything and call it a day.
Daniel Jackson Caldari Planet Watchers	Posted - 2011.01.28 20:26:00 - [262] Originally by: Mumtaz Khan I really like the new character customization. The only problem I seem to have with it is the hood option on Amarrian characters: When I made my first character, I could not find the hood, so I made him without one. Yet, I got "ninja hooded" when I relogged later. When I made my character the second time, I found the hood (under toggle options on the robe), but it doesn't show up in-game. What a bummer. wheres the hood option? ___
Henricus Gaufridus Amarr Cyrix Ltd. Tamanium	Posted - 2011.01.28 23:11:00 - [263] Originally by: Tristam Xavier A lot of people are saying that they can't access the character creator. Originally, I had this problem too. My game would just stop and freeze at the "Loading Character Creator" screen. After searching the internet, these are the steps that I took to get my Client to load the Character Creator. 1. After logging in, but before selecting your character, press ESC key. Then, in the video.options, select Optimize Video, and choose "Optimize for Performance". Click Apply. 2. Select your character, click yes and yes to enter character creator with low graphics settings. After the "Entering Character Creator" bar has fully loaded wait about a minute and then hit ESC twice to enter into the menu. 3. Click each tab in the game menu starting with the left tab (Video), click through each one allowing each screen to fully load. About when it loads the "About Eve" tab, the Character Generator should start. 4. After you can see your character, go back in the menu and optimize for Quality so you can get the full experience. I hope this helps. It worked for me. Didn't work for me, but I didn't have high hopes. Workarounds are fine and dandy, when they work, but CCP should be addressing this issue.
Vonola	Posted - 2011.01.29 00:33:00 - [264] Originally by: Henricus Gaufridus Originally by: Vladikov Orrico CCP, what's your official stance on the character creator non-function? CCP support are telling me it is Intel's problem. The 945 Express Chipset Family drivers need updating and Intel has to fix it. PetitionDetails
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Kirana	Posted - 2011.01.30 08:02:00 - [266] Edited by: Kirana on 30/01/2011 08:03:24 Personally, I love the new CC... You can make strip teases with it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIUAYjSvG9E ________________ ôBy any accepted standard, I have had more than nine lives. I counted them up once and there were 13 times I almost and maybe should have diedö Hunter S. Thompson
Marchanus	Posted - 2011.02.06 09:00:00 - [267] While I appreciate the chance to re-do my characters, I would like to make the following comments. 1. My two Sobiestor characters have completely lost their souls. They look like drunk hippies now. There is no way I can get back their fierceness, intensity, and rebellious nature. All the hair types are wrong as is the clothing. I WANT THE TATTS BACK!!! 2. While some racial types benefited from the the character creator other have suffered badly, namely the Brutors and the Sobiestors. 3. There needs to be far more diversity in their clothing types and the parameters to morph their faces. They look too much alike to me. OK is it just me, or are the rest of you Matari as disappointed as I am???
Mac Creagors	Posted - 2011.02.11 18:03:00 - [268] I dont like the update when I must have a top on my character to continue was better before. In IRL I dont have a 'TOP' on me... Stop censuring people. alter the creation process so you can skipp 'TOP' make soo people can re run the creation process and be able to change names on there character its possible ..
Mac Creagors	Posted - 2011.02.11 18:14:00 - [269] this was my thought too Originally by: Aridae Are our avatars also stored as a datafile with all the changes, or just as a picture? If not, why is that? There's so many logical reason to have such an option that I simply can not understand CCP didn't make the extra effort. - we could save our "work" halfway (or completed one but then load it for another character - we could go back when redoing our character (via petition or otherwise) and alter our existing avatar instead of having to remake it from scratch (which will ofcourse never work out properly). - being able to export avatars as datafiles could start off some sort of profession, just like we now have artists make signatures, they could then create avatars and sell those ingame.
Praetor Karr	Posted - 2011.02.19 10:55:00 - [270] managed to get ti working and gotta say..not happy with it...its very limited compared to the orginal portraits you could get...especially for clothing, positions, backgrounds...most of the stuff you actually see in a dam portrait.... needs alot of work
Devonians	Posted - 2011.02.21 05:27:00 - [271] I also am unable to get the character creator working - I tried everything i could find mentioned in the blogs and still no luck - my computer is fairly new and has no trouble running Eve itself - even at high shader settings, medium LOD, etc... - but the character creator just gets stuck and doesn't load - is it true that after a certain time we wont be able to log into Eve at all if we haven't done our character? - If that's the case I might as well just not bother paying for this next months subscription...a bit disappointing really...
Jenny Cameron Caldari Ordo Eventus	Posted - 2011.02.21 11:39:00 - [272] What about changing bloodlines or race? Why can't we just start all over? I offer 2 plex? ________________* - If you're in favour of a bloodline change please vote in the Assembly Hall in this thread -
xaja	Posted - 2011.02.22 17:43:00 - [273] Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 19/01/2011 20:15:50 One thing: In this image, you're still missing a critical problem that makes the creation process needlessly obtuse. That snapshot in the dialogue box needs to be much* larger. Why not use the full-res local render that the camera creates? It already exists, and we can already get at it by skipping out of the client, so why not use it? Why use a far too small* snapshot that doesn't tell you what the result actually looks like? If that means blowing the dialogue up over half of people's screens, so be it. That's infinitely better than giving them a tiny, featureless, detail-less, lossy-reduced image¦ (and the render is only 512+512px, so you'd have to be on a veeeeery tiny screen to have it become too large to show). ¦ The reason I describe it as such is because I have a gut feeling that the snapshot used in that image is the full-res image, scaled down to become a thumbnail, which would mean you're actually doing more work for far less usability and effectiveness. At first, I was annoyed as well, by the snapshot showing so small... After a while, I realized that it actually makes sense to some degree, cause what will be visible in-game, is mostly an even tinier rendition. Look at the many in-game images, where you can't even tell there's a face in there, cause of the background or any number of other reasons. What works at 512^ pixels can completely fall apart in a small low-rez version. So this "feature" of a very small preview might actually help some people make better portraits for themselves. ... _____________________________________ I'm Paper; Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
xaja	Posted - 2011.02.22 17:54:00 - [274] Edited by: xaja on 22/02/2011 17:56:04 Originally by: Jenny Cameron What about changing bloodlines or race? Why can't we just start all over? I offer 2 plex? Yes, agree very much: 1) given the fact that many of us chose a certain race, cause the old attribute-point presets made the race we wanted a bad choice for skill training. 2) fixed attribute presets have been removed, and any new player can choose their favorite race freely. But us old, loyal CCP customers are still stuck with characters that don't/can't look the way we'd choose, and aren't part of the race we want to be. 3) needlessly, certain clothing options that aren't really race related are not available to all races, like those really cool looking black pants, that are only available on a minmatar alt I never used or trained (because the attribute distribution was sucky). ... _____________________________________ I'm Paper; Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Viglen Gallente Taurus Inc	Posted - 2011.02.22 23:02:00 - [275] I miss my old portrait! This portrait looks like an action figure that is just out of the box! I guess the old dark and rusty Blade Runner inspiration is lost in translation somewhere! +_÷
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.02.28 03:20:00 - [276] Edited by: BeanBagKing on 28/02/2011 03:21:20 So on Jan 19th there was this dev blog, Quote: We currently plan for the grace period to last for about a month from the initial deployment. and a quote by CCP Fallout... Quote: The month long grace period we advertised refers to the period during which you can log into the game without a character portrait. It's now Feb 27th. Now, they never specified that it would be exactly a month, no more, and then they were cutting everyone off! But they did say there would be plenty of warning. I'm more concerned with this last part. Either A) They just forgot about the grace period and are going to let things keep going like this for a long time or B) they just forgot about the grace period and are going to suddenly remember and cut off the grace period with no warning. Personally I'm tired of my lazy corp mates logging in with no picture :P nudge nudge CCP what's going on here?
Devonians	Posted - 2011.02.28 20:08:00 - [277] Originally by: BeanBagKing Edited by: BeanBagKing on 28/02/2011 03:21:20 So on Jan 19th there was this dev blog, Quote: We currently plan for the grace period to last for about a month from the initial deployment. and a quote by CCP Fallout... Quote: The month long grace period we advertised refers to the period during which you can log into the game without a character portrait. It's now Feb 27th. Now, they never specified that it would be exactly a month, no more, and then they were cutting everyone off! But they did say there would be plenty of warning. I'm more concerned with this last part. Either A) They just forgot about the grace period and are going to let things keep going like this for a long time or B) they just forgot about the grace period and are going to suddenly remember and cut off the grace period with no warning. Personally I'm tired of my lazy corp mates logging in with no picture :P nudge nudge CCP what's going on here? Some of us who have not done our character portrait are not "lazy" - we haven't done the portrait because the new character creator doesn't work on our computers - I for one am not going to go out and purchase an expensive new machine just because CCP's new gimmick doesn't work on the perfectly good machine I already have - i just finished a level 4 mission and earned over 45 million from it while running the graphics at full shaders and good LOD - my computer is barely 2 years old and runs EVE itself just beautifully. So to put it simply, the day CCP "remembers" its cut off date will likely be my last day in EVE. What I would like CCP to do is have a button on log in for all of us (and there are many) who cant get the character creator to work that gives us the option of "accept random character" and have it just give us some default avi so we can keep playing without dealing with the character creator and getting getting locked out of the game that some of us have paid for 6 months in advance.

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