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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:03:00 -
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EVE Online: Incana 1.0 is scheduled for deployment during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 21. Downtime will begin at 05:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 19:00 UTC.
Incarna 1.0 features Captain's Quarters - the first step towards opening the interiors of space stations for players, - the new Noble Exchange store offering new and exciting goods, and the new graphics and animations for ship turrets. The new players will now embark on their journey in EVE Online guided by completely revamped tutorials and the familiar voice of Aura, while the new agent finder and corporation recruitment tools will make life easier for all pilots.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Charles Javeroux
Gallente INTERSTELLAR CREDIT
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:19:00 -
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WOHOO \o/
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James Garteaux
Gallente Comrades Eternal Allied Comrades Eternal
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:22:00 -
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woo yay!
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Striker4ever
Gallente Nex Exercitus Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:22:00 -
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woo third!! Kill or be Killed |
Galactic Empress
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:23:00 -
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Cooooooooool :)
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Rozaliel
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:24:00 -
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Weeeeeh Captains Quarters and new Turret animations!!!!
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Dr Prometheus
Caldari Gears of Construction
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:24:00 -
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Hail to CCP! |
Andrine Saraki
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:25:00 -
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Wooohoo!!! Awesome! :D 'excited' finally a good place to hang while waiting studing :)
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KamikazeBrAzIl
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:25:00 -
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CQ: EPIC WIN PHASE ONE
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Volkon
Caldari Eternal Night Dynamics
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:30:00 -
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Ill be kicking back with my cheetos and popcorn enjoying the rage quitters as on all patch days...
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Freelancer117
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:34:00 -
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where is Chribba ?
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Izzy Gilford
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:35:00 -
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Looking forward to it. How big is the download, btw?
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Aeyia
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:36:00 -
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I hope it will be optional (enable/disable)
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:37:00 -
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Yes, this one will be nice to watch. Can't wait for it. Incarna - where CCP breaks immersion.
Is there an option to get the forums on that little main screen in the CQ?
Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody! |
Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:42:00 -
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It is interesting times ahead, very interesting times indeed...
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EPW's Pimp
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:45:00 -
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inbefore the wines
Cant wait CCP!
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TheLostPenguin
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:46:00 -
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First page in yet another rage threads I'm sure!
Hoping the awkward animation, dodgy lighting effects and other annoying bugs from last build I tested have actually been fixed and not just nodded through like they are half the time...
Also, any chance now that we're nearly getting part 1 of Incarna of some infomation as to the actual FEATURES that'll follow throughout the rest of the summer, like there was supposed to be? So far about all I recall are vague promises of public areas where you can do Stuff, the closest thing to a feature list was the awesome sounding blog you guys posted as a joke back in april, it's about time you talked about all the totally awesome, utterly compelling content that will follow hot on the heels of this, which is after all just a tech demo and test bed for the actual content...
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Bloodcrow
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:46:00 -
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This is excellent news, atleast for the 50% of my corp which are able to load Incarna...
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flapie 2
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: flapie 2 on 17/06/2011 11:47:59 Ow goodie the day that we all unpod upon docking is here soon .......
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Price Checker Chick
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:55:00 -
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And yet another day in june where the server is offline for some crap. Not to speak about the times it will be offline after the crap to fix the crap...
I advise everyone to set a very long skill *sigh*
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Bishop Jace Beleren
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:56:00 -
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Everyone, let's make sure you have a skill training that takes at least 3 days to complete before we get 200 posts complaining about ISK for extended downtime mmmK?
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Talin Ransara
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Talin Ransara on 17/06/2011 12:02:31 Sorry CCP but no dice for me. This in my opinion is one of your bigger mistakes. You should hold out a month and Release WITH ALL of the CQ not just the run down "SIIThole" that is the Minmatar excuse for high living. Just hold off on deploying the CQ's till you have them all done. I Have no intention of logging in or paying you guys till, the rest of the Captains Quarters are on Tranquility.
Having to wait another Six month's for them isn't acceptable CCP, not by a long shot.
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Cedric deBouilard
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:07:00 -
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Question: is there only gonna be Minmatar CQ design (interior) in the initial Incarna release?
Because the CQ we have now in Sisi is Minmatar interiors, are we goıing to see Gallente room design in June 21st? if not, when?
Originally by: Ray McCormack Last Word Never, ever invest in a 'bank' again.
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Sal Alo
Minmatar Pane e Panelle
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:08:00 -
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In before optional update #6
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acr0nym
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:08:00 -
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Talin I don't think anyone really gives a **** whether you login or not.
The world will carry on just fine with or without you. xoxo
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cedric deBouilard Question: is there only gonna be Minmatar CQ design (interior) in the initial Incarna release?
Because the CQ we have now in Sisi is Minmatar interiors, are we goıing to see Gallente room design in June 21st? if not, when?
later.. gallente in particular are the hardest to do so they are likely the last that will make it. Might want to start asking for another one to replace the minmatar, as soon as caldari or amarr are available
Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody! |
Consortium Agent
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Freelancer117 where is Chribba ?
He and the rest of us 3rd party developers are a little miffed at the moment with CCP due to a new 'feature' they're planning called 'charge the 3rd party developers a license fee', so our participation in other threads besides this one is somewhat limited.
I was looking forward to Incarna myself, but after the last 48 hours, my will to play Eve has diminished greatly as I watched CCP stomp all over their developer community. Pretty, shiny stuff isn't going to save Eve if they continue down the path of d*ck slapping their developer community.
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Serenity 159080
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:18:00 -
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With the release of Incarna, will we still be able to log into EVE without an avatar? If we do not need to create an avatar, what happens when we dock at a station?
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Token Prophets
Walking Ghost Phase
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire EVE Online: Incana 1.0 is scheduled for deployment during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 21. Downtime will begin at 05:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 19:00 UTC.
Incarna 1.0 features Captain's Quarters - the first step towards opening the interiors of space stations for players, - the new Noble Exchange store offering new and exciting goods, and the new graphics and animations for ship turrets. The new players will now embark on their journey in EVE Online guided by completely revamped tutorials and the familiar voice of Aura, while the new agent finder and corporation recruitment tools will make life easier for all pilots.
CCP, as this is your new baby could you try and spell Incarna correctly?
Thanks.
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Talin Ransara
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: acr0nym Talin I don't think anyone really gives a **** whether you login or not.
The world will carry on just fine with or without you. xoxo
Just like I don't give a flying **** about your opinion either. It's nice that we are of the same mind.
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Anxiir
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:22:00 -
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Can we get an estimated size of this patch? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:24:00 -
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CEVE COMMENCE!
Secure 3rd party service | in-game 'Holy Veldspar' Now /w voice |
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ViRUS Pottage
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:30:00 -
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Yay, time to spin our characters instead of ships around but at a stupidly low fps for no apparent reason. Somebody fire these idiot devs. ___________
Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?
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Mona X
Caldari Missions Mining and Mayhem Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Mona X on 17/06/2011 12:32:00
Originally by: EPW's Pimp inbefore the wines
http://www.shenandoahconnection.com/wines1.jpg
Join Eve-Online, meet interesting people, grief them.1 |
Mark MyWord
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:38:00 -
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"EVE Online: Icana 1.0" should be Incarna as others have stated.
I'm excited to see Tranquility's Captain's Quarters and of course ship turret graphics and animations as I've seen on CCP Youtube.
The Noble Exchange will be interesting to see how it's integrated, as well as the new agent finder and corp recruitment tools. I started playing EVE a few weeks ago, and was disappointed that the ability to find new agents was very limited - the map's filter or the internet. It was basically impossible for me to find all the Mining agents I qualified for, seeing as I could only filter out the agents I wasn't qualified for. I'm sure this isn't a problem for experienced players who've put up with this limitation over the years, but it has been a noticeable quirk for a new player to deal with, who would like to run specific missions.
Will the new tutorials include the new Noble Exchange? Perhaps the bonus of the tutorial could include one of these "new and exciting goods"?
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Nadya Lena
Twilight Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Nadya Lena on 17/06/2011 12:42:08 Edited by: Nadya Lena on 17/06/2011 12:40:56
Originally by: Anxiir Can we get an estimated size of this patch?
Based on how much SiSiLauncher downloads when converting a current TQ install to Singularity, I'd say around 1.0GB.
Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Yay, time to spin our characters instead of ships around but at a stupidly low fps for no apparent reason. Somebody fire these idiot devs.
There was a devblog that said CQ will be disableable, at least for now, so people that multiclient on older GPUs can still do so.
Also, looking forward to the new turrets!
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Dan Estrellas Amigo
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:41:00 -
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Does this mean Aura will have more voiced parts?
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Rozaliel
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:42:00 -
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Teh wines has started!
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity 159080 With the release of Incarna, will we still be able to log into EVE without an avatar? If we do not need to create an avatar, what happens when we dock at a station?
Whatever happens, I suggest the temporary 'load station environment' option in the [ESC] window and disabling it.
Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody! |
ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.17 12:58:00 -
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Will there be a "Captain Quarters" button like Torfi already had during the Fanfest of 2008, or will we have this amateurish option to not load station environs in the settings? Thus requiring a client reboot.
______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mark MyWord "EVE Online: Icana 1.0" should be Incarna as others have stated.
You sure? How will they call epxansion where they allow us to walk out of CQ then? |
Kreso Cakija
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:06:00 -
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If would bee any kind button or something called "Turn off Captain's Quarters" I will bee huppy man, that is how I feel about Captain's Quarters.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: I'thari
Originally by: Mark MyWord "EVE Online: Icana 1.0" should be Incarna as others have stated.
You sure? How will they call epxansion where they allow us to walk out of CQ then?
Jump on the egg?
Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody! |
Geksz
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:12:00 -
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I hope before u deploy Incarna on June 21 u'll fix the turret icons! And can we have an answer why we can't switch to the 'old' hangar view after CQ will be deployed? That loading screen insted of it is rather lame...
Thx.
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ACESsiggy
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:43:00 -
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I can't wait till CQ officially goes live. And please take as much time as needed to make sure CQ is up and running smoothly
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vertpusher
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:50:00 -
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I'm excited for Incarna :) My only concern is the "transition" from docking, and undocking. While I am hauling ore I want to be able to dock, drop, undock.......not dock, walk over to my couch, sit down, look at assets, open ship cargo, drop ore, than undock.
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Reteris
Caldari Eaglewrath Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:52:00 -
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Can't wait! Been waiting for this since Christmas 2010. In fact, Incarna is what allowed me to convince my friend to start playing EVE back in December. See CCP? Incarna isn't even out yet and it's already making sales!
It will be nice at work on my laptop being about to sit in the CQ and watch the ticker feeds and the management systems.
One thing to consider CCP, just for the future, assuming it's not already this way, is the ability to change the information which the monitor's display. Like, if I have PI I may want a monitor displaying that but if I don't (like my friend doesn't yet) maybe have the option to switch it to something else. I would also like to be able to see my current Sales order information (personal and corp) and it would be nice to have a stock graph or line graph displaying my sales information. Just a thought for the future..
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Alexis Frain
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: vertpusher I'm excited for Incarna :) My only concern is the "transition" from docking, and undocking. While I am hauling ore I want to be able to dock, drop, undock.......not dock, walk over to my couch, sit down, look at assets, open ship cargo, drop ore, than undock.
CCP has already stated that they are leaving the sidebars in place in Incarna. You should have no problem docking unloading and pressing the yellow >>> undock button.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.17 13:57:00 -
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Are we able to walk out and enter our ship without entering in the pod first?
You know, for those suicidal days...
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
Karia Sur
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Posted - 2011.06.17 14:19:00 -
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i'm glad my current shader 2 PC wont handle this atm and i wont be chomping at the bit to get online, as i can see this been the mother of all ****-ups. I really hope im wrong, but i do see a lot of heartache and rage with this update/expansion.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.17 14:32:00 -
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CCP, don't forget to put the PATCH SIZE in the patch notes, you forgot last time (after you said you will start putting it there)
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Carli Zandrya
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Posted - 2011.06.17 14:38:00 -
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If I had a nickel for every whining complaint about how bad the next patch is going to f*** up the game I'd be filthy rich. Just like all the prior patches f***ed up the game right? I know the haters have some need to express themselves but please stop being a drag and embrace the inevitable change or take your precious dollars elsewhere.
I for one applaud the new direction and look forward to this major new tech injection into our beloved game.
GJ CCP
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Rozaliel
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Posted - 2011.06.17 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Reteris Can't wait! Been waiting for this since Christmas 2010. In fact, Incarna is what allowed me to convince my friend to start playing EVE back in December. See CCP? Incarna isn't even out yet and it's already making sales
It was the exact same thing that convinced me to start playing. Only there was no friend... I've been following EVE for ages. They havent been able to convince up till now :)
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Glyken Touchon
Gallente Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.06.17 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest Will we get all 4 races CQ's on launch? As soon a possible after the 21.
like how we would get the 5th subsystem?
quote from here ______
Originally by: CCP Veritas In other words, I believe Dogma is doing stupid things, and I intend to beat the stupid out of it before considering giving it rocket boots.
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Modahn Etch
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Posted - 2011.06.17 14:58:00 -
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Here's to another patch filled with things that I'm only partially interested in.
Happy Patch Week!
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:00:00 -
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Woot! Can't wait (ok, I can...I've been waiting impatiently since 2008, glad it's finally here). ~Gnosis~ |
Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:03:00 -
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Still ****ed about the new nebulas not being in the first release.
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Komen
Gallente The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:07:00 -
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I might be less against captain's quarters if the CarbonUI patch hadn't ****ed my Eve experience so hard. UI Windows (like the overview) move around to where I click, when I am not trying to move them. Last night, in space, I issued a 'stop moving' command to my ship, which responded by keeping right on flying forward. By right click drop-down, by ring UI, and by keyboard shortcut. Each method even received a command received confirmation (that little 'ship stopping') dialogue box. Nonetheless the ship didn't stop. Other problems with the CarbonUI update persist.
As I understand it, CarbonUI was implemented so that wall-screens in CQ would work. As unexcited as I was about CQ (but willing to tolerate its existance as, yes, I do want more people to play Eve), I am now full blown angry about how badly this whole expansion rollout has gone. Ask my corpmates about how much I've been swearing due to my client doing **** I do not want to do, did not intentionally tell it to do, and which nearly got me ship losses a couple times. Captain's Quarters has screwed up my flying spaceships game, and I'm finding it almost unbelievable there hasn't been MORE of an outcry. I know I'm not the only one with these issues.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:10:00 -
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Wake me when I can open "Gogela's Dirty Pleasure Hub and Gambling Emporium"
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Blue Harrier
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:20:00 -
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Well I hope all the fanbois enjoy Tuesday, IÆve just come from the SiSi client after the latest æTest PatchÆ (yes it really did say test patch) and itÆs not looking good.
Footfalls are added but are very muffled and dull sounding and there is little change between the æfloorÆ sound and what should be a æclink clinkÆ sound when walking on the metal walkway.
There is still only the one CQ no other races available as yet.
Still no æDrag and DropÆ to change ships, everything has to be done either on the right click menus or from the ship icon on your desk or balcony.
In space there was no warp tunnel at all also no into warp æboomÆ sound or out of warp sound.
The mining lasers I tested gave one quick burst of the mining sound and then failed to repeat.
The FPS has also dropped slightly from my last test (by about 10 FPS).
I bought an article of clothing but was unable to work out how to wear it, it appeared in my inventory list with all my other æstuffÆ but on going into the character creator I could not find it even after following some suggestions asked by another in chat. I expected a right click option to say æAdd to your clothing listÆ, but there was nothing, I could sell it, contract it, even trash it, but not it seems wear it.
Some good things (few and far between).
Rogue Drones have a very nice laser effect that makes one feel like they are really attacking you.
The mining laser effect has changed and is nice and along with the new strip miner turrets look pretty good.
ThatÆs about it.
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Ben Fenix
Caldari pyROmaniacs RED Citizens
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:24:00 -
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I'm a bit confused. I've just gone through the new tutorials on singularity. First run in german language and second in english. Maybe it's just because it's the testserver environment but why do german player's get the new crystal clear voice of Aura even in space (warping, docking, autopilot etc.) whilst english speaking players just get it during the tutorials? Because on SISI the english soundfiles for movement in space are still as crappy low quality as before. Will it be the same on Tranquility? __________________________________ Space is massive. Humanity is not. |
Vera Coen
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:26:00 -
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I'd much rather you hold back the patch and reduce the number of bugs then release something that has not been tested sufficiently.
That last thing Eve needs is another fiasco.
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Slater Furious
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:34:00 -
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does this actually mean that they have incursion running as it should or are ccp just trying to hide all the bugs with differant 1's coz this is untested properly?
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Test1 Mileghere
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
CCP, don't forget to put the PATCH SIZE in the patch notes, you forgot last time (after you said you will start putting it there)
why do you always talk in large and bold letters? |
Blue Harrier
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:40:00 -
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Oh yes just to add, I donÆt know about anyone else but I am used to docking my ship, opening a cargo can and then right clicking my ship to open the cargo hold to drag and drop items into the can.
Well you can still do this but you canÆt use your ship, the one in the docking bay is just for display, you have to use the right click icon menus on the station services tabs or the options on the small holographic icons on your desk or balcony .
The first few times I had to do this it really made me stop and think a bit (well I am 65, give me a bit of slack ), I think a lot of people will log in on Wednesday to have trouble with that.
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Enik3
Crimson Empire. Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:42:00 -
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Oh boy this should be a CAREBEARIN' GOOD TIME -- yeeehaw! Looking forward to additional extended outages after a great week of extended outages!
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Argus Kell
Gallente Liquid-Fire
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:54:00 -
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Seems pretty cool.
The main thing that concerns me is the phrasing suggests that we will have to buy the better turret graphics through a microtransaction? Is that correct? If so, does that mean that what would have previously been a free update now be sold to us as an "optional downloadable update"?
Argus
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Daniel Darkcross
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Posted - 2011.06.17 16:06:00 -
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Indeed please fix the phrasing. or if u really are going to charge us then in that case you are way bigger asshats than I thought.
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.17 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Argus Kell Seems pretty cool.
The main thing that concerns me is the phrasing suggests that we will have to buy the better turret graphics through a microtransaction? Is that correct? If so, does that mean that what would have previously been a free update now be sold to us as an "optional downloadable update"?
Argus
No, the new turret graphics and animations are free for everyone. Apologies for the confusing phrasing - I've changed the wording in the original post.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.17 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Originally by: Argus Kell Seems pretty cool.
The main thing that concerns me is the phrasing suggests that we will have to buy the better turret graphics through a microtransaction? Is that correct? If so, does that mean that what would have previously been a free update now be sold to us as an "optional downloadable update"?
Argus
No, the new turret graphics and animations are free for everyone. Apologies for the confusing phrasing - I've changed the wording in the original post.
Nothing comes for free. Did you mean to say that the new stuff(tm) is included in the EVE Online subscription price, at no additional cost or funded by VCs / investors?
Originally by: Higgs Bison How will EVE be affected if Dust is a flop?
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Night Epoch
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.17 16:21:00 -
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CCP please confirm/deny that we'll only be getting Minmatar CQ on Tuesday.
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Matalino
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Posted - 2011.06.17 16:28:00 -
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Will this patch force us to use the character creator if we have not already done so? I have several alts that I have not recreated since the new character/portrait system was introduced. Will I still be able to log on to those characters, or will I need to complete the character creation for them before I can log on to them?
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.17 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara
Nothing comes for free. Did you mean to say that the new stuff(tm) is included in the EVE Online subscription price, at no additional cost or funded by VCs / investors?
Well, it's also available to trial accounts...
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Argus Kell
Gallente Liquid-Fire
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Posted - 2011.06.17 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Originally by: Argus Kell Seems pretty cool.
The main thing that concerns me is the phrasing suggests that we will have to buy the better turret graphics through a microtransaction? Is that correct? If so, does that mean that what would have previously been a free update now be sold to us as an "optional downloadable update"?
Argus
No, the new turret graphics and animations are free for everyone. Apologies for the confusing phrasing - I've changed the wording in the original post.
Thanks Spitfire I really appreciate your quick response :)
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Nephele Anemone
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Posted - 2011.06.17 17:02:00 -
[75]
Haters gonna hate.
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Imogen Filiotov
Bloodbound.
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Posted - 2011.06.17 17:04:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Blue Harrier Well I hope all the fanbois enjoy Tuesday, IÆve just come from the SiSi client after the latest æTest PatchÆ (yes it really did say test patch) and itÆs not looking good.
Footfalls are added but are very muffled and dull sounding and there is little change between the æfloorÆ sound and what should be a æclink clinkÆ sound when walking on the metal walkway.
There is still only the one CQ no other races available as yet.
Still no æDrag and DropÆ to change ships, everything has to be done either on the right click menus or from the ship icon on your desk or balcony.
In space there was no warp tunnel at all also no into warp æboomÆ sound or out of warp sound.
The mining lasers I tested gave one quick burst of the mining sound and then failed to repeat.
The FPS has also dropped slightly from my last test (by about 10 FPS).
I bought an article of clothing but was unable to work out how to wear it, it appeared in my inventory list with all my other æstuffÆ but on going into the character creator I could not find it even after following some suggestions asked by another in chat. I expected a right click option to say æAdd to your clothing listÆ, but there was nothing, I could sell it, contract it, even trash it, but not it seems wear it.
Some good things (few and far between).
Rogue Drones have a very nice laser effect that makes one feel like they are really attacking you.
The mining laser effect has changed and is nice and along with the new strip miner turrets look pretty good.
ThatÆs about it.
So for a test patch, not bad then. I'm pretty sure QA are on this. However, if not, can i have your stuff?
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Shaz Mindbender
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Posted - 2011.06.17 17:15:00 -
[77]
I see that on SISI the Salvager 1 and Small Tractor have new icons. How many other new icons are in this patch? |
Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.06.17 17:16:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Shaz Mindbender I see that on SISI the Salvager 1 and Small Tractor have new icons. How many other new icons are in this patch?
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Blue Harrier
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.17 17:53:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Imogen Filiotov
So for a test patch, not bad then. I'm pretty sure QA are on this. However, if not, can i have your stuff?
Sorry to say I have 3 sons who also play Eve (one may not be able to after the 21st due to hardware limitations) and if I leave, my Stuff will go to them, sorry.
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Explosive Tip
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Posted - 2011.06.17 18:38:00 -
[80]
It would be cool if we could pod people in the station to collect bounties.
Just sayin |
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TheCatholic
Caldari The Dark Space Initiative Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.06.17 18:40:00 -
[81]
Please..All of you rage-quitters that didn't quit last expansion and the one before that, please rage quit NOW so we don't have to listen to you on Tuesday. You all know who you are.
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Son o'Brill
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Posted - 2011.06.17 18:54:00 -
[82]
Originally by: I'thari How will they call epxansion where they allow us to walk out of CQ then?
Excarna, of course.
-- Of course it's a bloody alt. Everybody and their dog posts with alts. Alts are the new mains. |
Katsumi1980
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.17 19:00:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Katsumi1980 on 17/06/2011 19:01:27 I can't wait. Been playing it during downtime on SiSi. My only concern is the Noble Exchange. Not sure how I feel about using plex to buy those items. In a way it reminds me of Zynga and facebook games making you buy game items with real money.Though as stated in the patch notes: I could use isk as well. Maybe it's not bad, Not sure. I haven't come to a decision on how I feel about that just yet. Iffy about it, Everything else ROCKS though! Can't wait!
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Captain Mung
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Posted - 2011.06.17 19:00:00 -
[84]
Please god let entering CQ be optional upon docking... otherwise this will be ******ed as ****.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.17 19:06:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Son o'Brill
Originally by: I'thari How will they call epxansion where they allow us to walk out of CQ then?
Excarna, of course.
^--- Made my day!
Also, looking forward to both Captain's Quarters, and the new turret. I just got a brand new GTX460 for cheap, so bring it on
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fLitSer
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Posted - 2011.06.17 19:16:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Captain Mung Please god let entering CQ be optional upon docking... otherwise this will be ******ed as ****.
Agreed, pleeease let this be optional <3
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.17 19:23:00 -
[87]
Originally by: fLitSer
Originally by: Captain Mung Please god let entering CQ be optional upon docking... otherwise this will be ******ed as ****.
Agreed, pleeease let this be optional <3
You two need to read moar devblogs.
Originally by: Dev Blog For the sake of a smooth transition we therefore decided to temporarily add the option to not load the Incarna interiors while stilll retaining full access to all options and menus.
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daisy cutta
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Posted - 2011.06.17 19:43:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Volkon Ill be kicking back with my cheetos and popcorn enjoying the rage quitters as on all patch days...
Hehe
You know thats going to happen,popcorn and beer at the ready
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Magic Crisp
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.17 20:06:00 -
[89]
And in this patch, will you fix those reported issues that you didn't even bother to notice on the forums? The current TQ version still has lots of issues, which are a pain for the players. These include features that used to work prior to the last patch.
Will you fix issues, or will you just introduce more issues?
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.17 20:12:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Nadya Lena Edited by: Nadya Lena on 17/06/2011 12:42:08 Edited by: Nadya Lena on 17/06/2011 12:40:56
Originally by: Anxiir Can we get an estimated size of this patch?
Based on how much SiSiLauncher downloads when converting a current TQ install to Singularity, I'd say around 1.0GB.
Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Yay, time to spin our characters instead of ships around but at a stupidly low fps for no apparent reason. Somebody fire these idiot devs.
There was a devblog that said CQ will be disableable, at least for now, so people that multiclient on older GPUs can still do so.
Also, looking forward to the new turrets!
Lets hope devs do like they always do and forget to take it out. Like our game is full of unfinished stuff that newer ever gots looked by devs again. This option should be one of those. Really dont see relevance of Spacebarbies and Cold Harsh game called EvEonline.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.17 20:23:00 -
[91]
Hmm so they will be monitoring economy effects? Lets hope they do better job at it this time then when they did moongoo shuffle. But i fully expect CCP to crap up this one too, they always do since they dont play the game theyre trying to manage.
If they would play, we would have such little things like science&industry interface fixed allready since some dev would have box full of dead mouses by now. Maybe they should hire same team that fixed PI interface to do it.
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Ketria Saine
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.17 20:37:00 -
[92]
Looking forward to this, but I hope that the CQ "Loading" screen gets optimised out of existence at some point.
A "Disembark" button above the "Undock" button on the Neocom would be perfect.
EVE is changing, some things will be better, some perhaps not, others will merely be different. New Eden is moving into a very interesting phase, those who want to complain will, but I find this all very exciting!
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.06.17 21:25:00 -
[93]
CCP, I just looked at the Incana page countdown. It seems to not be counting down to Incarna, that is it will not reach zero at the time TQ is currently scheduled to be open for service with the expansion. Instead is seems to be counting down to midnight Monday, at which time the servers will be closed and there will be no Incarna yet.
Maybe you need to adjust your clock?
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Sarsippiuss
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Posted - 2011.06.17 22:21:00 -
[94]
Dear CCP, I really hope you all don't take the cry-babies too seriously. After all, if you didn't have the coolest game out there, they would just quit playing right? Sick of reading post after post of people whining and foretelling doom and gloom every time you release a patch or upgrade.
I'm very excited about Incarna and look forward to CQ's
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BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2011.06.17 22:53:00 -
[95]
Yay it's coming ... but Is CQ an otpion or an obligation ?
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2011.06.17 23:27:00 -
[96]
Heheh, finally, the expansion that I've waited for since before I started playing EVE hits TQ, and I'm to busy to enjoy it. Oh well, I guess it will be around when things become more quiet. And I get to let other people suffer/report the bugs.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.17 23:28:00 -
[97]
Ok, so I just noticed that if your character is within a certain distance of the big center screen he/she will periodically turn his head to look at the screen unless you are standing with your back to the screen.
I dig it! Please make more of these non-controllable reactions of your character towards surrounding elements. It gives them much more personality when you cannot control everything about their movements.
-- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space |
Mark MyWord
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Posted - 2011.06.18 00:13:00 -
[98]
To join in on the complaining, I'd like to be the first complainer to complain about those who complain about the complaints. I feel that this phenomenon of complaining is rooted in the same area as the "end of the world" claims, who complain that the future is inevitable. Now, I'm sure you'll complain that you've seen the future in the past, and therefore you know exactly what to complain about, but I'm not trying to argue - I'm just another complainer. You must also enjoy those prophecies of technology in the year 2000, or 2100, when claims of flying cars and adjustable telescope/microscope eyes with configurable computers and cell phone communication devices will be available. Not because it all sounds so cool, rather, it sounds so far-fetched that you will capitalize on your complaining skills in the year 2100 and complain that those prophecies were so far-fetched. I complain for being sucked into peer pressure, and writing my first complaining post.
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Geksz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.18 00:14:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Ishina Fel
Originally by: fLitSer
Originally by: Captain Mung Please god let entering CQ be optional upon docking... otherwise this will be ******ed as ****.
Agreed, pleeease let this be optional <3
You two need to read moar devblogs.
Originally by: Dev Blog For the sake of a smooth transition we therefore decided to temporarily add the option to not load the Incarna interiors while stilll retaining full access to all options and menus.
Have u tried that feature? It is a still image of the loading screen of the CQ enviroment. No hangar view after incarna if u don't want to see CQ...
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.18 01:21:00 -
[100]
I must have missed it but I can't find the button in the SiSi client that will let me send Aur between characters. Three days to go...
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vincent leo
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Posted - 2011.06.18 02:44:00 -
[101]
o7
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Si'Andregal Grungolash
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Posted - 2011.06.18 03:37:00 -
[102]
Nice job CCP screwing over the community with just about everything you've done in the past 6 months You don ****ed up again, big surprise.
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Salvatore Satriani
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.18 04:38:00 -
[103]
So walking in the stations won't be out on june 21st? just the CQ?
sorry if that sounds a bit noobish, I haven't been following 110%
Ever since they said they renamed it from ambulation>walking in stations>then to Incarna.... they had me thinking that being able to open shops and walk arround on the stations promenade would be released in the first go arround.
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Merovee
Amarr Gorthaur Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.18 04:59:00 -
[104]
Ok this is nice, I'll have to find the longest skills for my accounts, been through enough of these things to know its not smooth sailing in the beginning.
I can't wait to see the new chapter of EVE unfold, best game ever!
Word of advice to all, go outside the first few days, let the lemmings test it out first. I can't wait to read about it in the forum.
-old timer since '03 Of Mordor
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The Marketer
Secure IT
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Posted - 2011.06.18 05:15:00 -
[105]
I guess all the whiners would prefer the game to remain as is for years without any expansions at all?
This is the first step to an interesting evolution, bringing the game to the next level. Don't like it? Buy a Nyx or an Aeon and remain in space forever... or maybe you are complaining behind the comfort of your keyboard because nobody ever listens to you in real life.
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malaire
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:57:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Salvatore Satriani So walking in the stations won't be out on june 21st? just the CQ?
sorry if that sounds a bit noobish, I haven't been following 110%
Ever since they said they renamed it from ambulation>walking in stations>then to Incarna.... they had me thinking that being able to open shops and walk arround on the stations promenade would be released in the first go arround.
In first version (june 21st) there will only be Walking In CQ Alone, to test and fix this new technology. I think devs have said somewhere that public areas will be added later this year.
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Captain Mung
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Posted - 2011.06.18 07:54:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Captain Mung on 18/06/2011 07:53:55
Originally by: Ishina Fel
Originally by: fLitSer
Originally by: Captain Mung Please god let entering CQ be optional upon docking... otherwise this will be ******ed as ****.
Agreed, pleeease let this be optional <3
You two need to read moar devblogs.
Originally by: Dev Blog For the sake of a smooth transition we therefore decided to temporarily add the option to not load the Incarna interiors while stilll retaining full access to all options and menus.
Are you being serious? I think you may need to actually read the dev blog you linked "moar". It even has the gist of it in the part of it you quoted.
They added a temporary option to disable CQ because they were having issues running multiple clients with CQ. The key word is temporary, as in opposite of permanent. I am "hoping to god" they have a permanent option to not load CQ upon dock. Why the hell would a pod pilot get out of his pod if he is just changing ships or getting ammo? Makes zero sense as far as "immersion" and makes it a hassle if you're simply docking for quick reasons like picking up ammo.
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impli
Singularity. Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.18 09:00:00 -
[108]
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is scheduled for deployment during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 21. Downtime will begin at 05:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 19:00 UTC.
Incarna 1.0 features Captain's Quarters - the first step towards opening the interiors of space stations for players; the new graphics and animations for ship turrets; and the new Noble Exchange store offering new and exciting goods. The new players will now embark on their journey in EVE Online guided by completely revamped tutorials and the familiar voice of Aura, while the new agent finder and corporation recruitment tools will make life easier for all pilots.
Nice stuff by the way .. but please CCP turn arround the T3 ships .. they flying backward also in incarna test server. If u can turn them arround again .. it would be one of the best expansions I guess.
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markie1994
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:09:00 -
[109]
noooooooooooo lol i think this is just gonna nerf the game =S
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Estimated Prophet
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:11:00 -
[110]
Will we get a chance to touch up the body sculpting of our characters? After playing with a moving, walking character on Sisi, there are changes I'd like to make that didn't show up when sculpting the (almost) static mannequin on TQ.
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Seripis Chiktor
Amarr Cypher Industries.
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:17:00 -
[111]
The only problem I see with the inevitable requirement to De-Pod your self upon docking is the combat players. this could cause serious issues and effect fleet combat in low and null sec if they have to "Dock_walk to couch_mess with ship_un-dock" as most combat operations are about split seconds this could cause serious frustration. I would recommend make every one dock as normal then a right click option to allow them to leave ship. This would provide a few things. 1: stations in high traffic systems will not be bogged down as much 2: combat pilots will be able to dock change ships un dock as before. 3: docking and logging off will be much simpler and not cause a instance transfer of a character who is about to log off.
Seems like it would make more sense to me.
ccp please advise/.
Seripis Chiktor Cypher Industries |
Emperor Messina
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:18:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Emperor Messina on 18/06/2011 11:19:44 Improvements are always welcome, and this one is great!! *BUT* please don't even think of nerfing the game as World of Warcraft did, making it to total idiots only and screwing the old players. This game is awesome not only because of the graphics, but also because of the freedom and roleplaying. Point is, changing the graphics to "humanize" the toons may bring many many new people and please CCP don't feel seduced to make the game easier for them.
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Samuel Wess
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:18:00 -
[113]
I have a feeling that i'm gonna need a new game soon with the direction things are going, only thing that eve has now is that there is none better! Yet. me |
startagain
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:29:00 -
[114]
Captains quarters, walking in stations... whatever next, strolling down the shopping mall returning to your quarters and making babies? The sims meet eve. Personally I like a spaceship game and dont see any need to further encourage people to stay in the stations
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Proffessor Drake
Astroforge Industries 4U Holdings Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:45:00 -
[115]
fortunately I abide in a wormhole, so my exposure to this "feature" of captains quarters will be limited to my once per week haul into hi-sec.
*shudders*
do what u want CCP, doesnt mean im going to participate
remeber to set month long skill queues people
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BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2011.06.18 12:49:00 -
[116]
Edited by: BugraT WarheaD on 18/06/2011 12:49:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzZggqGONYg&hd=1
For those who haven't see what the actual Captain's Quarter.
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Nestor Diomedes
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:22:00 -
[117]
Hmmmm - CCP im sorry guys but, CQ is not a big deal. Something better could have been done, example of something good that you guys are releasing, is the new turret designs and animations. I was hoping for something more on line with POS or High SEC POS or capitals in high Sec or Some new mining materials or something :/ but Kudos to you guys, this is the best Space MMO :)
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Fernoculous
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:25:00 -
[118]
woohoo!
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Salvatore Satriani
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:29:00 -
[119]
Originally by: BugraT WarheaD Edited by: BugraT WarheaD on 18/06/2011 12:49:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzZggqGONYg&hd=1
For those who haven't see what the actual Captain's Quarter.
I am guessing thats the gallentian CQ. I thought all there was, were minmatarrian cqs out atm. Im curious to see the Caldari, and the interesting corporate apparell they have.
Cool shirt btw. Look like your some dude out of a world war 2 movie.
_______________________________________ Leges Silentem Inter Arma |
KamikazeBrAzIl
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.18 15:22:00 -
[120]
Men, where is the patch notes? Surprise?
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Talin Ransara
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Posted - 2011.06.18 15:44:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Salvatore Satriani
Originally by: BugraT WarheaD Edited by: BugraT WarheaD on 18/06/2011 12:49:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzZggqGONYg&hd=1
For those who haven't see what the actual Captain's Quarter.
I am guessing that's the gallentian CQ. I thought all there was, were minmatarrian cqs out atm. Im curious to see the Caldari, and the interesting corporate apparell they have.
Cool shirt btw. Look like your some dude out of a world war 2 movie.
It's a gallente Station, but its not the Gallente CQ. Its the Minmatar CQ that has been placed inside the Gallente Stations/all stations till CCP pulls its thumb out of its *** an puts in the rest of them. Sorry CCP, but you really managed to **** me off with this lovely blind side of missing content for this Patch.
DO NOT PUT IT IN TILL ALL OF THE CQ's are FINISHED, we all know how good your track record at getting updates for existing features are. You can't blame me for being skeptical of your commitment.
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Tango Cainne
TERRIBLE EMO ALTS REGIME
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Posted - 2011.06.18 18:12:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Captain Mung Why the hell would a pod pilot get out of his pod if he is just changing ships or getting ammo? Makes zero sense as far as "immersion" and makes it a hassle if you're simply docking for quick reasons like picking up ammo.
This is exactly what I've been saying, if they're going for immersion, why would a pilot in combat docking to resupply on cap boosters in the middle of a fight disembark his pod, shuttle down to his quarters, open and drain the pod, towel off, get a change of clothes, just to hop back in the pod, re-fill, go reboard the ship and undock for something that took seconds before?
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari freelancers inc -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.18 22:06:00 -
[123]
ken and barbie takes ower eve online.. id much rather wait for a full package with all incarna as an exspansion for eve.. one wich u can buy if u care about it.. it should be on difrent servers as in when u load incarna eve your taken to difrent ser, so that it dosent involve the real eve players..
i supos i have a CH in my sc as i can never dock ?? lol.. OMFG
I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
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Indorian
Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.18 22:22:00 -
[124]
CQs will add a degree of play and politics players haven't experienced. I for one understand the fact that the idea here is to lay the foundation and then build upon it. Ok, all we're getting right now is CQs and new turrets. Whereas when the 2nd stage of the patch comes out we're getting a booster revamp, public access to other players while in station a first for Eve online. In no time at all players will understand. CCP, Keep up the good work. don't let the "omg nothing good is happening" whiners get to you, they haven't done their research and CLEARLY haven't taken the time to look at the big picture.
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.18 23:24:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Indorian CQs will add a degree of play and politics players haven't experienced. I for one understand the fact that the idea here is to lay the foundation and then build upon it. Ok, all we're getting right now is CQs and new turrets. Whereas when the 2nd stage of the patch comes out we're getting a booster revamp, public access to other players while in station a first for Eve online. In no time at all players will understand. CCP, Keep up the good work. don't let the "omg nothing good is happening" whiners get to you, they haven't done their research and CLEARLY haven't taken the time to look at the big picture.
I for one have no problem with the slow and steady release of Incarna, Building good solid foundations, and building on them is a good idea so old there is a parable about it....
These are not good foundations...
Now if they were keeping the old hanger view and letting us access Incarna from inside the hanger.... Then (barring the pod on a ladder issue) I wouldn't be too troubled by this launch, and would be looking forward to CCP iterating on Incarna and making it something really good....
However as they are replacing the hanger with CQ (for no good reason, all arguments to the contrary Killed dead until CCP can pull some magic argument out of their posterior, and then that gets shot down) they are laying down weak and crappy foundations, that they will eventually have to change to stop the whole thing breaking, but probably already after having built stuff on top.
CCP know this.... which is why they have been cowering in their bunkers refusing to even acknowledge our feedback let alone answer it...
I call Chicken.... --------
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Kasidis
Gallente Nexus.6
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Posted - 2011.06.18 23:34:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Seripis Chiktor The only problem I see with the inevitable requirement to De-Pod your self upon docking is the combat players. this could cause serious issues and effect fleet combat in low and null sec if they have to "Dock_walk to couch_mess with ship_un-dock" as most combat operations are about split seconds this could cause serious frustration. I would recommend make every one dock as normal then a right click option to allow them to leave ship. This would provide a few things. 1: stations in high traffic systems will not be bogged down as much 2: combat pilots will be able to dock change ships un dock as before. 3: docking and logging off will be much simpler and not cause a instance transfer of a character who is about to log off.
Seems like it would make more sense to me.
ccp please advise/.
I suggest that if people are going to complain or suggest things that they actually try it out on SiSi first. Your regular station UI is still there. So you can do everything at the same speed you used to ie:(switching ships, fitting, moving items). When you dock, just do everything you want without moving. You fit/change ship at any location in the room. As for the people complaining about ship spinning, well it spins automatically for you and at a very cool angle/perspective. Just food for thought.
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.18 23:45:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Kasidis
Originally by: Seripis Chiktor The only problem I see with the inevitable requirement to De-Pod your self upon docking is the combat players. this could cause serious issues and effect fleet combat in low and null sec if they have to "Dock_walk to couch_mess with ship_un-dock" as most combat operations are about split seconds this could cause serious frustration. I would recommend make every one dock as normal then a right click option to allow them to leave ship. This would provide a few things. 1: stations in high traffic systems will not be bogged down as much 2: combat pilots will be able to dock change ships un dock as before. 3: docking and logging off will be much simpler and not cause a instance transfer of a character who is about to log off.
Seems like it would make more sense to me.
ccp please advise/.
I suggest that if people are going to complain or suggest things that they actually try it out on SiSi first. Your regular station UI is still there. So you can do everything at the same speed you used to ie:(switching ships, fitting, moving items). When you dock, just do everything you want without moving. You fit/change ship at any location in the room. As for the people complaining about ship spinning, well it spins automatically for you and at a very cool angle/perspective. Just food for thought.
However my exceeds/matches recommended specs machine which runs the hanger at 60fps (its locked to max at screen refresh rate) and 30% cpu load, runs CQ at 20 fps, 80~90% cpu load, and my gpu overheats.... which doesn't happen even in total lag fest fleet battles.... for one person NOT MOVING in station.
There is a loss of drag and drop functionality in CQ.
There is a Loss of Immersion in CQ.
There is a Loss of performance in CQ.
And because CQ has to have the old UI and all the features of Space in it, it suffers from being tied to the in space UI and in hanger functionality, hamstringing its potential...
Plus CCP promised it wouldn't be like this. --------
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Kasidis
Gallente Nexus.6
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Posted - 2011.06.19 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Soden Rah
Originally by: Kasidis
Originally by: Seripis Chiktor The only problem I see with the inevitable requirement to De-Pod your self upon docking is the combat players. this could cause serious issues and effect fleet combat in low and null sec if they have to "Dock_walk to couch_mess with ship_un-dock" as most combat operations are about split seconds this could cause serious frustration. I would recommend make every one dock as normal then a right click option to allow them to leave ship. This would provide a few things. 1: stations in high traffic systems will not be bogged down as much 2: combat pilots will be able to dock change ships un dock as before. 3: docking and logging off will be much simpler and not cause a instance transfer of a character who is about to log off.
Seems like it would make more sense to me.
ccp please advise/.
I suggest that if people are going to complain or suggest things that they actually try it out on SiSi first. Your regular station UI is still there. So you can do everything at the same speed you used to ie:(switching ships, fitting, moving items). When you dock, just do everything you want without moving. You fit/change ship at any location in the room. As for the people complaining about ship spinning, well it spins automatically for you and at a very cool angle/perspective. Just food for thought.
However my exceeds/matches recommended specs machine which runs the hanger at 60fps (its locked to max at screen refresh rate) and 30% cpu load, runs CQ at 20 fps, 80~90% cpu load, and my gpu overheats.... which doesn't happen even in total lag fest fleet battles.... for one person NOT MOVING in station.
There is a loss of drag and drop functionality in CQ.
There is a Loss of Immersion in CQ.
There is a Loss of performance in CQ.
And because CQ has to have the old UI and all the features of Space in it, it suffers from being tied to the in space UI and in hanger functionality, hamstringing its potential...
Plus CCP promised it wouldn't be like this.
Yes I agree with you and the whole optionality idea. I saw the video from 2008. My comment was more directed at people saying you have to walk to certain places to do ceretain things and that it takes longer to do what you used to do fast. I like suggestions but not complaints about things that dont exist therefore spreading false information.
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Samuel Wess
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Posted - 2011.06.19 01:08:00 -
[129]
You can use the CQ all you want, i would like to be able to keep the hangar view and just disable all Incarna stuff that i dont care about. me |
Xeracotyl
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Posted - 2011.06.19 05:43:00 -
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CCP youve done your best to make the experience of being in a ship to "Immerse" one's self in such a massive space game that it remains the biggest part of playing Eve since inception. So today the old concepts turn to new horizons and you feel players should now be given the opportunity to control the other hidden parts of the Eve universe as walking animated avatar pilots. Youve devblogged on about CQ just being a start and how will have multiple test and phase roll outs coming before Incarna is complete. Given the issues that exist now I think its only natural to allow us decide when we want jump in. Perhaps permanently too.
Specifically, if you are adding a temporary "dont load CQ" option, thats a step in the right direction and one that I know a lot of players have been asking for. That tells me you at least agree certain problems will persist and affect game play. Addressing the problem, but the solution you come up with remains to be seen. I hope one of them will be to keep the ship hangar view in place. With that would suggest simply adding a simple interactive "ENTER CAPTAINS QUARTERS" button in the hangar where CQ would be in relation to the ship, something like the new orange interface buttons you already have all over the CQ right now to point the way. That way no one ever overlooks the shiny glowy sign while ship spinning and the hangar becomes a convenient "portal" to CQ and everything Incarna related, but most important of all... an instant option to enter.
The thing for me is, the busiest part of Eve play will still reside outside of CQ when it comes out for some time so why affect it? I am being hopeful when I say "yes it seems CCP making sure not to break the "immersive" features that streamline the current speed of play in space because that is top priority".
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Ben Fenix
Caldari pyROmaniacs RED Citizens
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Posted - 2011.06.19 07:40:00 -
[131]
The problem with INCARNA is not INCARNA itself. I'm pretty sure that CCP is doing their most possible in order to make the game the "space simulation" they always wanted. I think the problem with INCARNA is just the problem that all new things have: People are not accustomed to it. The people were and will always be anxious about things they haven't experienced so far. If we like it or not INCARNA will be deployed and even if we now get the option to disable the feature this will be just for transition. When transition is made INCARNA and all of it's features will be fully integrated. Even be accepted by the players. It was the same with most former releases and it will be the same with this and the following ones.
Remember when I said "space simulation"? That's what CCP is aiming for. They never made a secret out of it. So to achieve this goal they have to look at every aspect of what makes a space simulation complete. Not just our beloved shiny space ships. With the trailer "future vision" CCP have shown what they're intending to do with the game. So don't be scared of all the new things that are coming up in future releases. Just let yourself get accustomed to them and get on going. Otherwise stop playing EVE. __________________________________ Space is massive. Humanity is not. |
Vjorn Angannon
Fleet Escort Services
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Posted - 2011.06.19 08:24:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Lenka Parazitka Hooray more UI issues... Latest client update installed etc. Speed indicator stuck again, said "warping" when the ship wasn't. After I actually warped somewhere, it reset to 0 m/s but ended up stuck in that position, saying "0 m/s" even when I manually adjusted the speed.
Originally by: Penny Ibramovic Bookmark tooltips remain broken. Mousing over bookmarks in the system map don't show what the bookmark is to, or allow right-click to bring up the context menu. This makes finding specific sites almost impossible in w-space, where bookmark names are relied upon.
Originally by: ROXGenghis New issue happened to me last night. My ship wouldn't stop moving. Using ctrl-spacebar or hitting the "stop ship" icon both result in a "stopping ship" message box, but the ship keeps right on moving. I can slow it down to a crawl, but not stop it.
This also happened to a corpmate of mine. For me, restarting the client fixed it.
Here are three issues from the now unstickied Issues Thread that I (and many others) am experiencing all the time as a w-space dweller.
Question to CCP: is it your intention, and hope, that Incarna will dazzle people so much that you can conveniently "forget" about these issues?
Please take some time and fix some of the stuff you (CCP) are breaking, in bringing us CarbonUI and Incarna.
Here's hoping« that ya'll actually fixed some of this stuff, and will insert into the patch notes at the last minute.....
Altho, I do remember an old saying.....
Wish in one hand, (perform a bowel movement) in the other hand, and see which fills up first....
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designed2die
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Posted - 2011.06.19 08:28:00 -
[133]
Blaming CCP for our crappy game play motivation and lazy creativity is like stepping into quicksand. There are so many things to do in EVE and this wall of tears is not really about the game, imo. I don't like some things but I've avoided the chronic attitude. If there is one thing you can always count on in gaming it is frustration and disappointment. If I can start my computer and get into EVE, it's a good day. \o/ I bet CCP is just deaf to most of this stuff. I am.
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BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2011.06.19 10:27:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Soden Rah However my exceeds/matches recommended specs machine which runs the hanger at 60fps (its locked to max at screen refresh rate) and 30% cpu load, runs CQ at 20 fps, 80~90% cpu load, and my gpu overheats.... which doesn't happen even in total lag fest fleet battles.... for one person NOT MOVING in station.
There is a loss of drag and drop functionality in CQ.
There is a Loss of Immersion in CQ.
There is a Loss of performance in CQ.
And because CQ has to have the old UI and all the features of Space in it, it suffers from being tied to the in space UI and in hanger functionality, hamstringing its potential...
Plus CCP promised it wouldn't be like this.
+1
As alway Soden Rah, i agree with your point of view concerning CQ, we were really fans of what Incarna would allow us to do and really afraid of what it could be to ;)
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monoboch
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Posted - 2011.06.19 11:01:00 -
[135]
I hate to break it to those concerned with the drop in their performance, but it might be time to update your system. To demand a game to appeal to out dated systems for so many years is unreasonable. If you're still able to afford the time and investment in EVE, then you have the time to save and update.
I appreciate a game that remains fresh with already established foundations.
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The uggly
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Posted - 2011.06.19 11:31:00 -
[136]
Edited by: The uggly on 19/06/2011 11:36:08 Edited by: The uggly on 19/06/2011 11:35:04 Dear ccp,
I'am deeply sad to see incarna coming. What is it coming with incarna? Everyone happy docked in station? Don't you see that its already difficult to make the people get out for some pvp? don't you see that PVP become a giant piece of crap in your game and you participate to this with every single patch you put on?
Eve Online, was so great, a jewel in the world of video games because of a huge content and the gamers community. PVP is now so ridiculous and frustrating with all this logistic/jam/cloack/web/timers/agents/etc...
I'am so addicted to your game that i can't leave, but its become more and more painfull to pay 15euros for a mining/market simulator/coward friendly/passive/afk friendly game when i suscribeb for a pvp one.
I could like incarna only if we could shoot the other station guests within captain quarter's.
Good luck for next patch, this one useless to the deep interest of the game.
The uggly
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:00:00 -
[137]
Originally by: monoboch I hate to break it to those concerned with the drop in their performance, but it might be time to update your system. To demand a game to appeal to out dated systems for so many years is unreasonable. If you're still able to afford the time and investment in EVE, then you have the time to save and update.
I appreciate a game that remains fresh with already established foundations.
which part of meets or exceeds the recommended (not the minimum) specs for playing eve did you not understand?
Part of the trouble of course is that is it is trying to run two simultaneous UI's, which is bad design forced on them because they failed to keep the old hanger view.
My major concerns for Incarna are not performance, but still, Nothing else but CQ makes my system overheat. --------
By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig.
Support Optional CQ
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Price Prince
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:24:00 -
[138]
WE DON'T WANT INCARNA ! WE WANT TO PVP IN NEW SHIPS WITH NEW WEAPONS !
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BABARR
PARABELUM-Project Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:24:00 -
[139]
Ok cool. So next, you will spend your time to fix lot of broken gamemech, like "neutral logistic war" in empire, like "broken agro timer", like "noone undock bigger than cruiser or nano in low sec cause you can be hotdropped by 10 nyx for a BS", like "WH is the best place to hide when you don't want fight", like "railgun sucks", like "jam cycle of 20sec make the fight boring like hell when jam are in da place (5sec its large enought, big ship hard to jam = long time to lock, small ship jammed all the time can lock back fast). ...
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:25:00 -
[140]
Originally by: monoboch I hate to break it to those concerned with the drop in their performance, but it might be time to update your system. To demand a game to appeal to out dated systems for so many years is unreasonable. If you're still able to afford the time and investment in EVE, then you have the time to save and update.
I appreciate a game that remains fresh with already established foundations.
^Makes no sense.
Why should I need to update to a newer system to makeup for CCP's poor programming of their bloated product that doesn't even NEED to be implemented in the manner they are implementing it? Not to mention that it just doesn't make any sense to do things as they are doing them.
The performance hit isn't gamebreaking it adds a pointless amount of 'overhead' in the form of extra burdens on my system when it isn't justified. The performance issue is but one of several reasons why the plan as CCP has laid it out is poorly designed.
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Anxiir
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.06.19 14:30:00 -
[141]
Patch notes?
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Davich MacGregor
Minmatar Stellar Products and Quality Resources
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Posted - 2011.06.19 16:22:00 -
[142]
Originally by: The uggly Edited by: The uggly on 19/06/2011 11:36:08 Edited by: The uggly on 19/06/2011 11:35:04 Dear ccp,
I'am deeply sad to see incarna coming. What is it coming with incarna? Everyone happy docked in station? Don't you see that its already difficult to make the people get out for some pvp? don't you see that PVP become a giant piece of crap in your game and you participate to this with every single patch you put on?
Eve Online, was so great, a jewel in the world of video games because of a huge content and the gamers community. PVP is now so ridiculous and frustrating with all this logistic/jam/cloack/web/timers/agents/etc...
I'am so addicted to your game that i can't leave, but its become more and more painfull to pay 15euros for a mining/market simulator/coward friendly/passive/afk friendly game when i suscribeb for a pvp one.
I could like incarna only if we could shoot the other station guests within captain quarter's.
Good luck for next patch, this one useless to the deep interest of the game.
The uggly
Whaaaa. Wah Wah Wah Whaaaaaa. I want my Maypo. I want my Blankie. I want my Diaper changed. Whaaaaaa...
Sheesh.
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Zeko Rena
Caldari Tankt
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Posted - 2011.06.19 20:29:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Price Prince WE DON'T WANT INCARNA ! WE WANT TO PVP IN NEW SHIPS WITH NEW WEAPONS !
I guess you only use Missle Launcher's to then, because in a way every weapon in the game is new, with these new turrets, but i still can't even see my precious Missle Launchers
I have been waiting since 2004 to see my Missle Launchers on my ship CCP :( --------------------------
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The uggly
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Posted - 2011.06.19 20:34:00 -
[144]
"Whaaaa. Wah Wah Wah Whaaaaaa. I want my Maypo. I want my Blankie. I want my Diaper changed. Whaaaaaa...
Sheesh."
Thats exactly what i said: there is only blind puppet people like you poisonning this game now, with all the new age mentality all focused on basic lame and ridiculous smacking. I wasn't talking to you Mr little nobody, i was reporting feelings to CCP.
Regards, The uggly
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Electra Sabbota
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:39:00 -
[145]
So nothing new as far as content.Sad.How long before ya add something other than looking at myself ingame?Ships,tech,etc.
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Thomas Coe
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:41:00 -
[146]
Thanks for a great game and great updates.
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TheLastZmeul
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:27:00 -
[147]
I have tested CQ on Duality, didn't like it; I have tested it on SISI, still don't like it
CQ is nothing more than giving station menu a 3D perspective, nothing more
screen of the left - Corporation the new corp search tool is good for new pilots and for those who search a new corp did we need a screen in the room to give that option, not really ... the quick-bar is still there do pilots change corporations every day .. no, not really
center screen - I have no idea what's that used for sort of news thingy but mixed with market and some other uninteresting stuff .. really wth?!
right screen - PI just a shortcut to planets in the S&I tab do pilots need use it every day .. not, more like 3 days cycles
the only really interesting thing added is the agent finder
do pilots get to customize their CQ, no do pilots get to show their CQ to other pilots, no
so .. CCP, whats the real purpose of CQ?
CQ enabled resource usage, single client, performance settings preset CPU - varies between 30-50% on each of all 4 cores mem - 720Mb
CQ disabled resource usage, single client, performance settings preset CPU- varies between 5-20% on each of all 4 cores mem - 651Mb
idling in space, performance settings preset CPU - varies between 5-20% on each of all 4 cores mem - 659Mb
guess what I'm gonna' do after CQ will be released, knowing that I use 3 clients simultaneously uncheck the "load station environment" under graphic content settings
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MechaMouse
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:18:00 -
[148]
Congrats on finally getting ambulation out CCP, I hope it goes smoothly.
Everyone should set a multi-day skill to train just in case ;-)
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:37:00 -
[149]
Don't forget to put a seriously long training skill in your queue.
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DarkArtz
Celestial Mayhem C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:09:00 -
[150]
Does this mean I'm finally going to be forced to use the character creator? If so, I'd at least like control of the content on that left screen in CQ so I can send my corp members info. Perhaps add a news feed option to the corp bulletins so that corp/alliance news can be displayed on the screen to give it more functionality.
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Zey Nadar
Gallente Unknown Soldiers Soldiers Of New Eve
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Posted - 2011.06.20 06:20:00 -
[151]
I am waiting for this change, and hope that the other faction station interiors will follow very soon(!) to avoid immersionbreaking.
Also Im wondering what will actually be on sale in the noble store, and how badly will those expensive clothes glitch when I havent had a chance to test them
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Si'Andregal Grungolash
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Posted - 2011.06.20 06:26:00 -
[152]
CCP, Stop being so immature about making your new baby play with all the older kids all the time whether they want to or not, even when he's a spazzing quarter formed fetus that is making everyone run around and roll in the dirt in the garden when everyone else would rather stay indoors. Instead of trying to be a proud parent and making everyone acknowledge that your baby is still a beautiful person as well, just accept the fact that Incarna still has much more room to grow while simultaneously not impacting everyone else's gameplay. What really infuriates me is how you completely went against everything, PF Lore, game design, and player demand in making the statement "one day there will be no Incarna, there will only be EVE" knowing full on well JUST HOW MUCH IT'S NEEDED, and then refusing to say another words about it.
You have got to be some serious asshats if you don't put the option to sit in our ships back into the game. JUST TALK TO US. Just give us one single rational reason for why you have removed this, or for ****s sake, put it back. and if you are so ignorant as to reply to us again and just tell us it's working perfectly, ignoring all the other reasons why it's needed, then you must have all lost your marbles and you are most definitely killing EVE.
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Dalmont Delantee
Gallente Shiloh Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.20 06:29:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Freelancer117 where is Chribba ?
He hasn't paid his $99 :P Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Lukas Ignateus
Caldari Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:19:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Zeko Rena
I guess you only use Missle Launcher's to then, because in a way every weapon in the game is new, with these new turrets, but i still can't even see my precious Missle Launchers
I have been waiting since 2004 to see my Missle Launchers on my ship CCP :(
I've been wondering about this too, I want to see my missile launchers dammit! As for Incarna, meh, I'll withhold judgement until i actually play around with it a bit when it goes live. "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!" |
Serenity 159080
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:48:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Serenity 159080 Edited by: Serenity 159080 on 17/06/2011 13:15:51 After the release of Incarna, will we still be able to log into EVE without an avatar?
I hear something was mentioned during AT, but could the details be posted in the forums.
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Sealiah
Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:18:00 -
[156]
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I personally think that it's gonna be -awesome-, can't wait for the gallente room.
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Reborn Invention
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:24:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Reborn Invention on 20/06/2011 08:24:24 Most useless Expansion in my eyes. Performance is killing even a high end machinge with walking in this Captains quater. I would suggst that the Overview bugs that exist get fixedand and some other annoying things like member and member right management. Rights for alliance Members to do things on a POS ... lots of long time open points...
I pray that eve will NOT get a space WoW.
PLEASE give the old pilots the option to select if they want to use the station things or not.
thanks
Reborn Invention
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5omeone
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:30:00 -
[158]
So far not impressed. If SiSi is any indication, this will be another bug filled patch without real feature or feel.
Here we are at 12 hours, 32minutes and change according to the Incarna countdown and still no patch notes? For those who have not yet, put in as long a skill as you can - say, maybe a week or two long. Go out for pizza and a movie, take a long drive through the country and enjoy some local ethnic food.
Right before you come back, make sure to say farewell to your family and friends, as you will likely be committing suicide shortly thereafter.
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Mellivora Ratel
Minmatar Mellivora Ratel Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:05:00 -
[159]
Edited by: Mellivora Ratel on 20/06/2011 09:06:45 Jees. So mutch anger in here. Keep up the good work CCP |
Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:16:00 -
[160]
Originally by: 5omeone Here we are at 12 hours, 32minutes and change according to the Incarna countdown and still no patch notes?
Threadnought averted!
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:23:00 -
[161]
Originally by: 5omeone Here we are at 12 hours, 32minutes and change according to the Incarna countdown and still no patch notes?
That timer may be off (mine's sitting at 13h 40m, which is still today, not 5 UTC tomorrow), but so are the patch notes.
Here's to hoping CCP will iterate their excellence soon.
I'll follow your advice and set another pointless long level 5 skill.
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General dekker
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:43:00 -
[162]
All Entitled to your own opinion I think as a step towards full station walking I am game to take a look at it and enjoy it. I do worry for those of us with less fortunate PCs that may not be able to run it so well. From what i read there is no way to "turn it off" if there was such a button this would be perfect.
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Kye Do'lan
Gallente Order of the Domain The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:18:00 -
[163]
Originally by: UGWidowmaker ken and barbie takes ower eve online.. id much rather wait for a full package with all incarna as an exspansion for eve.. one wich u can buy if u care about it..
Got to agree with this, Incarna should be a buyable expansion if you want to use it [img]http://eveboard.com/ub-cache/225413846-36.png
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Sador Amatin
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:18:00 -
[164]
Sounds like a new EVE era is starting.....
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Einar Matveinen
Gallente nXo Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:18:00 -
[165]
Originally by: General dekker From what i read there is no way to "turn it off" if there was such a button this would be perfect.
Uncheck Load Station Environment
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:34:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Einar Matveinen
Originally by: General dekker From what i read there is no way to "turn it off" if there was such a button this would be perfect.
Uncheck Load Station Environment
That option isn't staying :(
If you look at the last blog by ccp Zulu he addresses it specifically and says it was only put back in temporarily for testing and transition.
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General dekker
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:43:00 -
[167]
Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: Einar Matveinen
Originally by: General dekker From what i read there is no way to "turn it off" if there was such a button this would be perfect.
Uncheck Load Station Environment
That option isn't staying :(
If you look at the last blog by ccp Zulu he addresses it specifically and says it was only put back in temporarily for testing and transition.
That's what I read. no problem for me I'm running a custom PC but a few people i know who play it are having to look at long skills on eve and buying a new machine if this doesn't work for them.
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TheJediDK
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:48:00 -
[168]
I'm looking forward to this one. Actually what made me come back from a loooong break. I had totally forgotten how much people in this community complains whenever something changes ^^.
I'm looking forward to this addition to the game that makes it even more a space-sim. I know some people are afraid of leaving their capsule, but it's about time. They seriously need a bath. Reading the "this isnt realistic" arguments makes me giggle. The dock -> drop cargo/rearm etc -> undock in seconds is far from realistic as well if you think about it. Some says it breaks immersion. For me it brings more immersion and brings me a bit closer to my character. Thing is i play a character, not a ship. Some play a ship and discussing it between us futile as we aim for a different experience. Making the game easy? Nahhh.. Easier perhaps, but not easy. This game is allready so hard to learn that you can see it on the playerbase. At least that's what i think. That the game is too complex for the average gamer. So I'm not worried about wow-players joining in. They dont have a chance nor the mindset to play this game.
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Agrapena
Gallente Moray Regional Enterprises EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:54:00 -
[169]
Been waiting on Walking in Stations for a good few years now after seeing the preliminary video on Ten Ton Hammer. SiSi seemed to please me but only a little. When full station WIS comes of age, then i`ll be more excited about it. Though, and I do mean this, I`m expecting a little longer than a 14 hour DT and then the critical bug fixes.
As usuall CCP will do their best, but with a game like this, its easy to see how bugs creep in.
Stop the whining and flaming and let them do the things they do. We`ll all get there eventually.
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Joss56
Gallente Unleashed' Fury
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:54:00 -
[170]
Had some doubts at the begining but once i took the time to test some of those features live on Sisi I must say that I was pretty surprised by this big change but not that big has people seem to fear.
Love captain quarters has it is and looking forward for improvents and new features around.
This magninfic idea of deck where you can watch your powerful space ships and admire all his size and details, admire the pod where you spend so many time in (we still don't know where we pee when we're in but doesn't mater)
I agree some improvements are needed around character movements but hey, it's fresh it's coming out and it's a very good basement for future features. You hate it? -well in a few weeks you'll love it and look around for more.
I'm all excited about this now and despite my coments with my forum troll alt (every one has one hu?) I really think that this feature will be very successefull overtime and will aloud Eve to become better for every one, except the rookies but this is how eve works, you learn the hard way
Go forward CCP!!
PS: It's not a matte of trust but I've got a long lvl5 skill training like over 20days, think I'm going to put it on.
/props ________________________________________________
"You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA/UK?"
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General dekker
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:13:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Agrapena Been waiting on Walking in Stations for a good few years now after seeing the preliminary video on Ten Ton Hammer. SiSi seemed to please me but only a little. When full station WIS comes of age, then i`ll be more excited about it. Though, and I do mean this, I`m expecting a little longer than a 14 hour DT and then the critical bug fixes.
As usuall CCP will do their best, but with a game like this, its easy to see how bugs creep in.
Stop the whining and flaming and let them do the things they do. We`ll all get there eventually.
Got to say: well said. People on here whine way to much considering CCP are about the best company I know when it comes to this sort of thing. It may take longer than expected but they always do their best and reimburse where appropriate. Saying you will not play because of this isn't just unhelpful its also childish. Likewise can't wait for a station pub we can all sit in and have this kind of debate there instead. over a cool pint of quafe...
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Ithica Nirobi Estemaire
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:15:00 -
[172]
how long till we can interact with other players inside stations and take slaves to our quarters, have a smoke, stumble after having too much spiced wine, take a baseball bat to our enemy's face. gonna be SWEEEET!!
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Bl0W M3
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:16:00 -
[173]
tried it on test server, thought it was total crap, glitchy movement getting caught on everything, then havin to walk over my ship and mess with the glitchy control panels to do stuff to my ship..... if i wanted to play tomb raider i whould....
...ah fuc4 it whats the point anymore, they obviously dont give a **** what we think............
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:19:00 -
[174]
Originally by: General dekker
Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: Einar Matveinen
Originally by: General dekker From what i read there is no way to "turn it off" if there was such a button this would be perfect.
Uncheck Load Station Environment
That option isn't staying :(
If you look at the last blog by ccp Zulu he addresses it specifically and says it was only put back in temporarily for testing and transition.
That's what I read. no problem for me I'm running a custom PC but a few people i know who play it are having to look at long skills on eve and buying a new machine if this doesn't work for them.
Same here... Performance-wise I wasn't having any issues with everything jacked up on Duality... Haven't tried on SiSi yet.
I like Incarna, and have been waiting and hoping they would finally get around to it for as far back as Eve Beta.
I DONT like that they are forcing those who are not interested into it, let alone causing problems for people who simply don't have a PC that can handle it.
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Kyan Tar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:20:00 -
[175]
Well, I for one am grateful for this extra content and am looking forward to playing a game closer to the vision that CCP has for us. Thankyou!. Of course I Don't envy those who have to sit through pages of whining.
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Bl0W M3
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:23:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Kyan Tar Well, I for one am grateful for this extra content and am looking forward to playing a game closer to the vision that CCP has for us. Thankyou!. Of course I Don't envy those who have to sit through pages of whining.
yeh and the "winers" have to sit through your arse kissing, far worse
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Arthainas
Amarr Black Hand Templars The Veyr Collective
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:23:00 -
[177]
To everyone who is crying because CCP is changing parts of their game, of which they hold all rights to do whatever they so please with, I have but one thing to say. You can always play WoW, they love your kind there.
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Miki Ki
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:31:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Miki Ki on 20/06/2011 11:31:17 I don't care if it is Minmitar quarters. I'll just consider it a shabby hotel in another far away station. Home is where the Quafe is. Good Luck with the Patch CCP. It will be cool.
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BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:35:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Arthainas To everyone who is crying because CCP is changing parts of their game, of which they hold all rights to do whatever they so please with, I have but one thing to say. You can always play WoW, they love your kind there.
Just to be clear. Lots of us don't cry because Incarna is coming, I, for exemple, really enjoy that new part of the game and what will be possible with it in theory. But even if you enjoy walking in stations with an avatar, for now, CQ isn't satisfactory, and this even if you know it's only the tiniest part of what's coming next. I'm not repeating here what was said in these three topic (Necom and Humanity, Question around the Incarna's Devblogs, and Concise questions aroud CQ), but we were not crying, just asking CCP to do things they told us they are going to do with CQ and Incarna
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Cedric deBouilard
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:53:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Cedric deBouilard on 20/06/2011 11:56:06 Less than 10 hours left until Incarna and patch notes are not published yet. There's still no official word regarding "exactly" what will be included in Incarna 1.0:
Are we getting only the minmatar CQ initially, if yes, when should we expect the rest? What is the roadplan for incarna etc..
It would be nice to keep us informed, really. We love you when you throw us a bone so we can chew while you're doing your dev stuff.
Originally by: Ray McCormack Last Word Never, ever invest in a 'bank' again.
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Soddington Smythe
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:59:00 -
[181]
I have wanted to get out of the pod and walk around for all of the three years I`ve been crammed into an egg full of space goop. So frankly even if its buggy as all hell I say cry havoc and let slip the dogs of glitch. But I'm also a realist,so I've lined up 20 days of skill training,bought The 'IT Crowd' Box set and will alternate between laughing at quality British comedy and what I hope will be some equally high quality international rage posting.And to all those who will without a shred of doubt feel an unquenchable need to snap off the inevitable spite filled rage quit post,may I be the first to extend a heart felt and genuine 'can I haz your stuffz?'
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Morgan Polaris
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Posted - 2011.06.20 12:03:00 -
[182]
Guys, come on. Let this one cook for a while.
We're looking at a DT of the better part of a day. CQ is just part of the (promised) Incarna experience, and even that isn't more than a fourth of the promised feature.
Turrets and missile launchers; okay, they're different tech. But looking at the whole picture here, you should finish this one now.
I know there's a lot of perceptual bias going on, but these things don't help when your perceived motto is, above anything else, 'release a tech-demo and make it a product later'.
My advice here would be to move this one up by a month or two. As opposed to releasing yet another semi-finished piece of roadkill.
In other news; warping just became duller than ever. On top of seriously toned down sounds (Apocrypha) and a broken sound engine (so half the time you don't hear anything anyway) there's now nothing. No tunnel, no motion blur, nothing (seriously, what's your shader guy doing all day?).
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Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2011.06.20 12:22:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Cedric deBouilard Edited by: Cedric deBouilard on 20/06/2011 11:56:06 Less than 10 hours left until Incarna and patch notes are not published yet. There's still no official word regarding "exactly" what will be included in Incarna 1.0:
Are we getting only the minmatar CQ initially, if yes, when should we expect the rest? What is the roadplan for incarna etc..
It would be nice to keep us informed, really. We love you when you throw us a bone so we can chew while you're doing your dev stuff.
Pretty much this. My personal guess is that Incarna 1.0 isnt really ready to ship (the sisi build has only the minmatar quarters still), but forgetting what they promised players just 6 months ago, CCP are going ahead anyway. Oh well. Looking forwrad to a month of daily patches and hotfixes. NOT.
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Koraeth
Amarr Paxton Industries -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.20 12:24:00 -
[184]
/tinfoil hat on
The reason they haven't released patch notes yet is they are changing something drastic they know players will hate, and don't want to give us time to plan / scheme / stockpile early.
Not sure what that change is (moon nerf, supercarrier nerf, etc)
Kor
/tinfoil hat off [url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Koraeth][/ur |
JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.20 12:28:00 -
[185]
Edited by: JC Anderson on 20/06/2011 12:28:52 In another thread, they said the patch notes were going on six pages and counting.. And that was before. The final release might be MUCH longer... So if they really do end up being as long as they have claimed, then I can understand why its taking so long.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.06.20 12:55:00 -
[186]
Originally by: JC Anderson Edited by: JC Anderson on 20/06/2011 12:28:52 In another thread, they said the patch notes were going on six pages and counting.. And that was before. The final release might be MUCH longer... So if they really do end up being as long as they have claimed, then I can understand why its taking so long.
They're also probably still uploading the patch file :fear: 5.8 GB right?
So how's it gonna be?
Fictional timeline:
05:00 Server being taken down 11:28 First forum threads (on other forums) "Why EVE down?" 16:00 Forums back online, accidentally the new version 16:02 First forum bug discovered 16:05 Forum going down again 17:30 Old forum back up 18:58 Patch notes published 18:59 "All is going according to plan" 19:00 4 Players logged in 19:30 Unexpected surge in EVE China new accounts 20:00 10 Players logged in 20:30 Patch available for download for Windows 20:48 Download server runs out of connections 21:00 EVE Server down 21:20 First Torrent available, seeders celebrated as heros 21:40 Torrent is detected to be poisoned with a key logger 22:00 "We have discovered a problem. Server back by 23:00" 23:00 New patch available for download, incompatible with previous patch. "Please download full client. We are sorry." 00:00 10 Players logged in 00:50 New patch for Windows for both old client versions available 01:10 Chribba provides working patch downloads 01:20 Chribba posts scan of Invoice for $99 by CCP 02:40 Chribba posts "Cease and Desist", shuts down eve-files 03:00 "EVE will be back online before 06:00 UTC" 07:00 EVE China down due to massive registrations 07:34 EVE back up 07:38 Game-breaking bug discovered 07:42 Forum Threadnought "The petitions aren't read" 08:03 Forum Threadnought now has link to bug report in 5 week old Test Forum thread 08:15 EVE Down "Emergency reboot due to an exploit" 08:30 Mac patch available for download 08:40 New record new accounts at Battlestar Galactica Online 09:00 4 Players logged in 09:40 "EVE will be back online after today's regular downtime" 09:43 Forum war White Knights vs. Bitter Vets goes nuclear 10:50 Server up, accepts connections 11:00 Regular downtime begins 11:30 "EVE will now accept connections" 11:43 LulzSec DDoSes EVE 13:00 LulzSec discoveres EVE China, promptly DDoSes it 14:00 New record new accounts StarWars Galaxies 16:30 3 Players online 16:40 Standard server online 17:00 Dev accidentally posts "We beat the estimated patch downtime by 2 hours"
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.20 13:01:00 -
[187]
lol
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raker
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Posted - 2011.06.20 13:37:00 -
[188]
Edited by: raker on 20/06/2011 13:37:33
Hi
Ive been playing this game for eight years, (off and on)
I feel we should wait and see what Incarna brings, I reside in wormhole space so it will have a limited effect for me
Yes, thier will be bugs and yes CCP WILL overrun on the DT for the patch release
But all online games should evolve, they have too or it will get stale and ppl will stop playing
For me , Ive no interest in CQ, but im sure thier are many who are looking forward to this patch and i suspect that many chars will relog into eve to check it out
So, lets see what it brings
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taque
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Posted - 2011.06.20 13:47:00 -
[189]
i iz very very unhappy and dissapointed,
i send you, CCP, a nice note of how you would schedule your updates and patches when im at holidays!!
now i am sitting ducks in my office, waiting for my favorite game to come online. do you feel my pain? of how you ruined my day?
im going to eat some worms now!
keep up the good work ccp. all the best!
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.06.20 13:58:00 -
[190]
POAST PETSJ NOOTS NAO!1!1!!
I love patch notes for some strange reason.
LulzSec
Eve website may or may not work off and on; we're not actually hitting it, their stuff is so crappy that it goes down with the logins.
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YorikR32
Gallente The Leather Knights Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:10:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Dirk Decibel POAST PETSJ NOOTS NAO!1!1!!
I love patch notes for some strange reason.
+1
This...
Also, I am keen to know if I will "have" to go and actually create my characters again. I am not keen on doing that.. TO the point tha ti am training long skills to avoid it if I can.. [Y] Yorik EVE is a game, THIS is real. |
Insidious
0utbreak
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:11:00 -
[192]
i want 2004 back
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Kmelx
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:13:00 -
[193]
It really is superb that they haven't managed to get the patch notes together less than 24 hours before the patch is due - seriously CCP your releasing a patch when you've yet to fully document what it actually does?
Your filling me with confidence already.
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Talin Ransara
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:22:00 -
[194]
Edited by: Talin Ransara on 20/06/2011 14:22:46 Let me just set this straight. I love the Incarna feature, its smooth as the station Dock and fantastically epic. Especially with the new Turrets. I want the Incarna features, I have sense I first booted up EVE back in 2003. However what I'm having a problem with is that CCP is forcing even the BASE feature out the door without all of it's parts.
We are only getting ONE of the FOUR faction CQ's, and for me someone who is a Gallente Pilot/Gallente purist, who despises Minmatar Ships, stations and whatever space junk they pass for space worthy. This is a hit in the Face.
I love the feature, but what I'm asking for is that they release all of the CQ's at once. Partly because I don't have faith in CCP that they will go back and fix exclusion in a timely fashion. The DEV's can make all the promises they want in saying "As soon as possible." but we all know they are notorious for letting things WAIT to long.
An to be honest, as big of a feature as it is, its also remarkable small. It doesn't effect much of the Core game play of EVE, so they could wait a few weeks, and then put it out on TQ and have a much happier player base.
To Paraphrase. I love Captain's Quarters. I want it badly. However I'm not willing to sacrifice Racial specific CQ's for the sake of a release date.
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ChromeStriker
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:33:00 -
[195]
<- wants patch notes. getting worried now - Nulla Curas |
JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:37:00 -
[196]
<--Will work for patch notes
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lisaaa
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:57:00 -
[197]
what happens at the end of the counter from the eveonline.com/incarna website ? As it doesn't correspond with the downtime so it isn't the patch.
A trailer perhaps ?? :D:D
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Constantine Kusoni
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:17:00 -
[198]
Originally by: lisaaa what happens at the end of the counter from the eveonline.com/incarna website ? As it doesn't correspond with the downtime so it isn't the patch.
A trailer perhaps ?? :D:D
A trailer would be nice.. IMO Eve trailers have always been more or less awesome :)
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:26:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Constantine Kusoni
Originally by: lisaaa what happens at the end of the counter from the eveonline.com/incarna website ? As it doesn't correspond with the downtime so it isn't the patch.
A trailer perhaps ?? :D:D
A trailer would be nice.. IMO Eve trailers have always been more or less awesome :)
Even in cases where I don't like the patch that the trailers are for, I still enjoy the trailers themselves.
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BBJ Shepard
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:54:00 -
[200]
hi )0) \0/ (0( |
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KamikazeBrAzIl
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:54:00 -
[201]
Patch notes:
- New Maller Hull - Minmatar Capitain Quarter - Aurum store - Need for speed stuff - war on lag stuff
easy
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Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:57:00 -
[202]
If CCP wont do fps in Incarna maybe this is a nice idea:
Terrorist minigame for WiS in late August would be nice feature
Plant a bomb near DJ LMP quarters and walk away from the explosion
btw: at least 6 pages of patch notes hope DT last long enough to go through it
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Kaji Xeg
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:25:00 -
[203]
Everyone lock in a level V skill. Calling it that patch notes won't be released until 6:00 GMT tomorrow.
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clixor
Celluloid Gurus
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:36:00 -
[204]
<- will mine for patchnotes
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:52:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Smagd
Originally by: JC Anderson Edited by: JC Anderson on 20/06/2011 12:28:52 In another thread, they said the patch notes were going on six pages and counting.. And that was before. The final release might be MUCH longer... So if they really do end up being as long as they have claimed, then I can understand why its taking so long.
They're also probably still uploading the patch file :fear: 5.8 GB right?
So how's it gonna be?
Fictional timeline:
05:00 Server being taken down 11:28 First forum threads (on other forums) "Why EVE down?" 16:00 Forums back online, accidentally the new version 16:02 First forum bug discovered 16:05 Forum going down again 17:30 Old forum back up 18:58 Patch notes published 18:59 "All is going according to plan" 19:00 4 Players logged in 19:30 Unexpected surge in EVE China new accounts 20:00 10 Players logged in 20:30 Patch available for download for Windows 20:48 Download server runs out of connections 21:00 EVE Server down 21:20 First Torrent available, seeders celebrated as heros 21:40 Torrent is detected to be poisoned with a key logger 22:00 "We have discovered a problem. Server back by 23:00" 23:00 New patch available for download, incompatible with previous patch. "Please download full client. We are sorry." 00:00 10 Players logged in 00:50 New patch for Windows for both old client versions available 01:10 Chribba provides working patch downloads 01:20 Chribba posts scan of Invoice for $99 by CCP 02:40 Chribba posts "Cease and Desist", shuts down eve-files 03:00 "EVE will be back online before 06:00 UTC" 07:00 EVE China down due to massive registrations 07:34 EVE back up 07:38 Game-breaking bug discovered 07:42 Forum Threadnought "The petitions aren't read" 08:03 Forum Threadnought now has link to bug report in 5 week old Test Forum thread 08:15 EVE Down "Emergency reboot due to an exploit" 08:30 Mac patch available for download 08:40 New record new accounts at Battlestar Galactica Online 09:00 4 Players logged in 09:40 "EVE will be back online after today's regular downtime" 09:43 Forum war White Knights vs. Bitter Vets goes nuclear 10:50 Server up, accepts connections 11:00 Regular downtime begins 11:30 "EVE will now accept connections" 11:43 LulzSec DDoSes EVE 13:00 LulzSec discoveres EVE China, promptly DDoSes it 14:00 New record new accounts StarWars Galaxies 16:30 3 Players online 16:40 Standard server online 17:00 Dev accidentally posts "We beat the estimated patch downtime by 2 hours"
+20 internets good sir
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Xan Zavier
Gallente Forever Dead Forever Cloned
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:02:00 -
[206]
Maybe I'm missing it, but have any of the items for the Noble Exchange Store been released yet, with AUR/PLEX pricing?
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Blue Harrier
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:23:00 -
[207]
They have been tested on SiSi, new coats, skirts, shoes and dresses but they were all priced at 1 Aur, so no price until Wednesday (allowing for server re-starts, sudden downtime, unable to/corrupt downloads, forum rage etc).
BTW Good luck Devs, hard hats on, flame proof vests at the ready, popcorn and drinks to everyone, see you Wednesday morning if the client downloads OK off peak.
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Cole Ontor
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:24:00 -
[208]
naae walking in station isnt gonna happen its just a troll
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:27:00 -
[209]
I'm expecting CCP to release patch notes about 24 hours after Incarna goes live. They'll just include everything that works in the patch notes and remain silent about everything that doesn't :P
LulzSec
Eve website may or may not work off and on; we're not actually hitting it, their stuff is so crappy that it goes down with the logins.
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:29:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Smagd
Originally by: JC Anderson Edited by: JC Anderson on 20/06/2011 12:28:52 In another thread, they said the patch notes were going on six pages and counting.. And that was before. The final release might be MUCH longer... So if they really do end up being as long as they have claimed, then I can understand why its taking so long.
They're also probably still uploading the patch file :fear: 5.8 GB right?
So how's it gonna be?
Fictional timeline:
05:00 Server being taken down 11:28 First forum threads (on other forums) "Why EVE down?" 16:00 Forums back online, accidentally the new version 16:02 First forum bug discovered 16:05 Forum going down again 17:30 Old forum back up 18:58 Patch notes published 18:59 "All is going according to plan" 19:00 4 Players logged in 19:30 Unexpected surge in EVE China new accounts 20:00 10 Players logged in 20:30 Patch available for download for Windows 20:48 Download server runs out of connections 21:00 EVE Server down 21:20 First Torrent available, seeders celebrated as heros 21:40 Torrent is detected to be poisoned with a key logger 22:00 "We have discovered a problem. Server back by 23:00" 23:00 New patch available for download, incompatible with previous patch. "Please download full client. We are sorry." 00:00 10 Players logged in 00:50 New patch for Windows for both old client versions available 01:10 Chribba provides working patch downloads 01:20 Chribba posts scan of Invoice for $99 by CCP 02:40 Chribba posts "Cease and Desist", shuts down eve-files 03:00 "EVE will be back online before 06:00 UTC" 07:00 EVE China down due to massive registrations 07:34 EVE back up 07:38 Game-breaking bug discovered 07:42 Forum Threadnought "The petitions aren't read" 08:03 Forum Threadnought now has link to bug report in 5 week old Test Forum thread 08:15 EVE Down "Emergency reboot due to an exploit" 08:30 Mac patch available for download 08:40 New record new accounts at Battlestar Galactica Online 09:00 4 Players logged in 09:40 "EVE will be back online after today's regular downtime" 09:43 Forum war White Knights vs. Bitter Vets goes nuclear 10:50 Server up, accepts connections 11:00 Regular downtime begins 11:30 "EVE will now accept connections" 11:43 LulzSec DDoSes EVE 13:00 LulzSec discoveres EVE China, promptly DDoSes it 14:00 New record new accounts StarWars Galaxies 16:30 3 Players online 16:40 Standard server online 17:00 Dev accidentally posts "We beat the estimated patch downtime by 2 hours"
This sir, is gold! I applaud you!
LulzSec
Eve website may or may not work off and on; we're not actually hitting it, their stuff is so crappy that it goes down with the logins.
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Blue Harrier
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:32:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Cole Ontor naae walking in station isnt gonna happen its just a troll
I wonÆt say itÆs a troll, it will happen, the thing that worries me is the æPatch Notes have reached 6 pages and climbingÆ.
So letÆs see, 1 page of æSorry we screwed up the licenceÆ 4 pages of æsorry this item will not be implemented in this patchÆ 1 page of stuff we can use now
And one or more pages added of promises æthis will be in the next patch soon ÖÆ
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:49:00 -
[212]
"Full patch notes will be published soon"
SoonTM
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:07:00 -
[213]
For the longest time, people claimed that Walking in Stations, or Ambulation, was as much vaporware as Duke Nukem Forever.
Just like Duke, I won't believe it's released until I actually have it in my hands. And +1 to the timeline guy, that was hilarious.
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prejaha
Jagged Rock Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:15:00 -
[214]
CCP you hiding something ? post the patch notes pronto...
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Lord Okinaba
Zero Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:17:00 -
[215]
Patch notes please.
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flapie 2
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:18:00 -
[216]
Thank you CCP for that last change to turn the new features off. Cant wait to see the cracefull solution later on.
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Majmuna
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:26:00 -
[217]
Gimme the patchnotes, so I can faint already!
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henchana
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:28:00 -
[218]
Quote: Close quarters combat (CQC) or close quarters battle (CQB) is a type of fighting in which small units engage the enemy with personal weapons at very short range, potentially to the point of hand-to-hand combat or fighting with hand weapons such as swords or knives.
Noble Exchange.. you mean Boxing?
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Admiral McGee
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:35:00 -
[219]
Anyone wanna make some bets that this update wont happen tomorrow? :)
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Great Notion
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:37:00 -
[220]
Awaiting "Incarna 1.0 delayed until next Tuesay, 27 June" any moment now.
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Dark Shadowstar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:45:00 -
[221]
Why can't we see the patchnotes? You must know what you are going to be issuing by now !!!!!
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Assaj Ventress
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:50:00 -
[222]
Quote: Scanning It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. All probes can now contribute to a scan result, as opposed to the previous limit of four.
Let the whining begin -----------------
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 19:16:00 -
[223]
i really dont understand all this excitment about CQ. After all in most parts its no different then what CQ inside a ship would look like. Ok theres balcony, but then again we do have ships with ship maintenance bays, orca and carriers comes mind as first. So whats exactly is so exicint about this "expansion" or "Downtime in massive proporsions"? maybe the fact that ccp trys to totally brake existing and functionung UI? Or that people with lowend computers take massive hit in performance when CQ is loaded.
I know, adapt or die, etc... Unfortunetly not all of us can afford latest tech gadgets required to run ccp delusional vision what eve is. But since ccp always claims eve to be sandbox where you can choose how to play, then why is ccp planning on forceing us to CQ? Come on im podpilot, i command most lethal machines ever build in galaxy and yet ccp expects me to get exicted about dollhouse in space? Come on, cant even go visit rival alliance leaders CQ and murder him (ingame of course).
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Brahan Seer
Tea Tactics
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Posted - 2011.06.20 19:30:00 -
[224]
still no patch notes? bah hurry up _________- Since 2004 |
Towaoc
Caldari Applied Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.20 19:35:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Dark Shadowstar Why can't we see the patchnotes? You must know what you are going to be issuing by now !!!!!
Given that the patch notes are likely to spell out the details of new content that will have a substantial impact on a rather delicate market commodity (PLEX), it might be wise of CCP to hold back the notes until after down time. And who knows... there might be other market-impacting changes that we're not aware of in the patch. Holding the notes until down time would give us alot of time to digest the information before the "market" reopens.
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henchana
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Posted - 2011.06.20 19:52:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Lord Okinaba Patch notes please.
They make them up as they go along... in the downtime
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henchana
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Posted - 2011.06.20 19:57:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Admiral McGee Anyone wanna make some bets that this update wont happen tomorrow? :)
you bet!
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Wendelgard
Gallente Herrscher der Zeit Smacked Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:01:00 -
[228]
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
[...] the familiar voice of Aura, while the new agent finder and corporation recruitment tools will make life easier for all pilots.
Dear CCP Spitfire, I have just been on SiSi. Although I checked "Always use English voice" when using German as UI language, Auras original used voice does not come back
/wendelgard
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Bartolomeo Colleoni
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:16:00 -
[229]
Hope the 4 day skill I put in the queue is long enough...
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Koryllian Sha
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:27:00 -
[230]
Is it just me, or does it seem like there are alot of questions....but very few answers...from CCP
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Canuk EroSennin
Gallente Public Security Section Nine
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:38:00 -
[231]
Seems launch is delayed 5 or more hours....the countdown timer was below 10 hours (a few hours ago) and is now running at 14 hours 22 minutes
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:41:00 -
[232]
8 hours for me on the countdown clock
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Canuk EroSennin
Gallente Public Security Section Nine
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:43:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Rhivre 8 hours for me on the countdown clock
Really? Maybe I have to kick this IE9 a bit..... |
Canuk EroSennin
Gallente Public Security Section Nine
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:49:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Canuk EroSennin
Originally by: Rhivre 8 hours for me on the countdown clock
Really? Maybe I have to kick this IE9 a bit.....
Nope...after deleting temp files, trying in firefox and retrying in IE9...its still at 14 hours 10 minutes.
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Night Epoch
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:54:00 -
[235]
Edited by: Night Epoch on 20/06/2011 20:55:03 I also now see 14 hours 05 minutes remaining as of 4:53pm EST.
FWIW, that countdown clock never actually counted down to tomorrow's downtime. Now it's more consistent. So probably just a minor update.
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Commandante Caldari
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:54:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Insidious i want 2004 back
I want 1978 back where the world had no internet, where I made appointments with one simple phonecall, where I played football and old school outdoor and table games with my friends.
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Farrisen
Caldari Nth Dimension
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:56:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Constantine Kusoni
Originally by: lisaaa what happens at the end of the counter from the eveonline.com/incarna website ? As it doesn't correspond with the downtime so it isn't the patch.
A trailer perhaps ?? :D:D
A trailer would be nice.. IMO Eve trailers have always been more or less awesome :)
Yeah thought they'd air one during AT, but i was wrong, WHERE IS MAH TRAILER???
Originally by: CCP Spitfire It's because of falcon.
Originally by: Korinne People used to say that Incarna would come out when Duke Nukem Forever comes out.
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Mukirana
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:57:00 -
[238]
This
Originally by: Admiral McGee Anyone wanna make some bets that this update wont happen tomorrow? :)
I say that the downtime will be very long, longer than they say it will be. But I'm sure they will make Captain's quarter work tomorrow, in any kind of way.
And
Originally by: Bartolomeo Colleoni Hope the 4 day skill I put in the queue is long enough...
This is a good time to fill the training queue with those very long training skills, just to double check.
Anyway, someone already knows how large will be the patch file. Since the entire Captain's quarter and all the turrets will be remade I'm guessing that a really big file is coming.
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Adrie Atticus
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:23:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Mukirana This
Originally by: Admiral McGee Anyone wanna make some bets that this update wont happen tomorrow? :)
I say that the downtime will be very long, longer than they say it will be. But I'm sure they will make Captain's quarter work tomorrow, in any kind of way.
And
Originally by: Bartolomeo Colleoni Hope the 4 day skill I put in the queue is long enough...
This is a good time to fill the training queue with those very long training skills, just to double check.
Anyway, someone already knows how large will be the patch file. Since the entire Captain's quarter and all the turrets will be remade I'm guessing that a really big file is coming.
TQ -> SiSi 2 days ago was 1,09GB so it's along those lines I presume.
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Chris97b
Caldari Mining and Industrial Services Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:25:00 -
[240]
Currently training AWU5, and still awaiting patch notes...
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Great Notion
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:35:00 -
[241]
Not to beat on a dead horse, but it is pretty astonishing that patch notes still haven't been released.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:36:00 -
[242]
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM....
I think CCP is afraid to release the patch notes.......
I anticipate release of the patch shortly before the server goes down at which time the website will be down. CCP wants to avoid the threadnaught!
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Tango Cainne
TERRIBLE EMO ALTS REGIME
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:38:00 -
[243]
Edited by: Tango Cainne on 20/06/2011 21:37:59
Originally by: Si'Andregal Grungolash You have got to be some serious asshats if you don't put the option to sit in our ships back into the game. JUST TALK TO US. Just give us one single rational reason for why you have removed this, or for ****s sake, put it back. and if you are so ignorant as to reply to us again and just tell us it's working perfectly, ignoring all the other reasons why it's needed, then you must have all lost your marbles and you are most definitely killing EVE.
+1
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El Puerco
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:48:00 -
[244]
I aprove. ... |
1esus isa4abdul
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:54:00 -
[245]
Only thing i am sure of, is that i will have at least 1 cry-kick-yell episode because of this expansion. Propably because of my 2 year old hardware.
But my only hope is CCP will keep entering station, change of ship / unloading cargo etc. as quick/easy as possible with undocking, as it is now.
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USGAnthrax
Knights of Kador The Black Armada
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Posted - 2011.06.20 22:02:00 -
[246]
woooooooooow in my country it is 0:00, we are the 21th June now ! ;)
One image per signature please. Zymurgist |
Majmuna
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Posted - 2011.06.20 22:12:00 -
[247]
One more hour to go in UTC... until it will be 21st June... Ahem, cough cough, CCP... Patchnotes?
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Euphonus
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Posted - 2011.06.20 22:24:00 -
[248]
Edited by: Euphonus on 20/06/2011 22:24:56 Patch notes: http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
Concerns:
Quote: Inventory windows will not re-apply the user's preferred sorting method after executing a "Stack All" command
This will be annoying. The whole point to stacking everything is that now I have a sorted, AND smaller list of stuff to deal with.
Quote: SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards.
why?
Quote: Scanning
* It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. * All probes can now contribute to a scan result, as opposed to the previous limit of four.
Just how easy will they be to scan now? Shouldn't mess with something that works.
Quote: The number of jamming NPCs in over 75 Caldari and Gurista sites has been re-balanced. Please warp into danger to find out more.
Fix the missions. Gurista missions currently have 15 falcons in them, its ridiculous to the point of ******ation.
Quote: Grouped-weapons have been optimized to further increase their performance gain compared to ungrouped weapons.
Guessing this means server-side performance? Ie. Nothing that effects the client/user?
Quote: An issue was fixed where skill requirements for top tier implants were too low. The skill requirements for implants now correctly reflect the benefits they offer players.
Please clarify- hopefully before I have to find out myself.
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2011.06.20 22:35:00 -
[249]
Euph... The SSAO is NVidia code, weÆve seen artifacts on ATI cards.
Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Euphonus
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Posted - 2011.06.20 22:37:00 -
[250]
Originally by: CCP Fallout Euph... The SSAO is NVidia code, weÆve seen artifacts on ATI cards.
Thanks :).
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Lee ChanKa
WEPRA CORP
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Posted - 2011.06.20 22:40:00 -
[251]
I DON'T ****ING CARE FOR MISSION RUNNERS
WHAT IS ABOUT PPL WHO USE IT IN PVP..Jesus ****ing christ
Look on our kb we use that **** in last 30 campaigns because corp of 100 ppl CANT FACE ****ING aly or power block of 5k 10k ppl
you destroy every ****ing possibility for small corp to do some **** in pvp
i spec Hacs you destroy them with nefring speed
i spec Sabre you destroy it thru ******ed patchs
i spec Curse you destroy it by nefring Neuts and Nos
we spec unprobable ships for PvP by implants set and ships ( 4 bil or so) you destroy that also)
good ****ing job please make us all join ****ing blobs and destroy small corp pvp
please also destroy cloaks so we cant camp cloaked and we don't need to roam in bombers and **** what we need that..but wait first to spend to find fit which will cost me 6 motnhs of training and 10 bilions and then destroy it...
regard lee aka ewqi
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evedtradio
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Posted - 2011.06.20 22:42:00 -
[252]
EVE Downtime Radio will be broadcasting with all the latest updates from CCP throughout the downtime for the release of Incarna, as well as player responses to the latest news, some stories from players and more just to keep you entertained throughout downtime, so visit and listen at www.evedowntimeradio.com ! EVE Downtime Radio - With Full Coverage of Incarna Downtime - See this thread |
Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.20 22:53:00 -
[253]
Might want to repost that on the other tread.
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Majmuna
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Posted - 2011.06.20 23:02:00 -
[254]
I read the patch notes. Looks like you did a lot of work. Good job! I am optimistically looking forward to the actual expansion.
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phoenix0269
Gallente Degrees of Freedom The Babylon Consortium
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Posted - 2011.06.20 23:02:00 -
[255]
it would have been nice if you had just fixed all the crap you screwed up BEFORE doing another expansion
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Garekell
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Posted - 2011.06.20 23:05:00 -
[256]
Sorry if this has been answered already, but I have seen two different start times for downtime. 05:00 UTC (this thread)and 07:00 UTC in another - both from a CCP employee... anyone know which is the right one?
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Nambr1
Minmatar WEPRA CORP
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Posted - 2011.06.20 23:21:00 -
[257]
Great work CCP!
U r doing gr8 job to make balance in game. First u made no lag in eve \o/, great job. Now u r killing smaller alliances and corps what was in eve since 2004. Good job. Eve developed to high end, with no problems at all so without any solutions u decided to transform eve to sims so we can put piercings to our beautiful genitals. Good job !
I cant suggest this game to my friends anymore, and will say bad word and how much this game is ****edup in every forum thats talking bout eve.
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Indorian
Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 23:52:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Nambr1 Great work CCP!
U r doing gr8 job to make balance in game. First u made no lag in eve \o/, great job. Now u r killing smaller alliances and corps what was in eve since 2004. Good job. Eve developed to high end, with no problems at all so without any solutions u decided to transform eve to sims so we can put piercings to our beautiful genitals. Good job !
I cant suggest this game to my friends anymore, and will say bad word and how much this game is ****edup in every forum thats talking bout eve.
Only thing I can think is ... wow.. shame you can't read man. There are programs out there to help people with your condition. You should look into them.
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.06.21 00:16:00 -
[259]
Maybe you guys should link the patch notes.
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=230
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Care Bear King
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Posted - 2011.06.21 02:57:00 -
[260]
Rumor has bombs and bubbles useable in both low and hi sec on sisi prior to patch. Expect bombs at the 4-4 undock post-patch if true.
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Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.21 03:36:00 -
[261]
Congrats for making unprobable gang boosting T3's a thing of the past.
Thumbs down for links still being system wide instead of grid only. Now people with a POS in system have their very own unprobable boosting T3's and no one else. ____________________________________________
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Tetragammatron Prime
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Posted - 2011.06.21 04:08:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Don Pellegrino Congrats for making unprobable gang boosting T3's a thing of the past.
Thumbs down for links still being system wide instead of grid only. Now people with a POS in system have their very own unprobable boosting T3's and no one else.
THis...plz make it so they at at least have to be outside of pos shields so maybe we can pop them in instalocking bs or some ****.
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flapie 2
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:31:00 -
[263]
Originally by: CCP Fallout Euph... The SSAO is NVidia code, weÆve seen artifacts on ATI cards.
This offcourse doesnt mean other cards dont handle it in a good matter, but it would indeed be a FPS killer for some low end cards that aint Nvidia.
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Raze Crandraven
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:26:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Garekell Sorry if this has been answered already, but I have seen two different start times for downtime. 05:00 UTC (this thread)and 07:00 UTC in another - both from a CCP employee... anyone know which is the right one?
I think 07:00 UTC is the correct one, but the end time is more important i think :) music for everyone: soundcloud/stekmusic enjoy :) |
OldWolf69
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:48:00 -
[265]
Main says 17:00. Dew says 19:00. No matter the hour, single question is if it will be just like the last times, in therms of being Epic...C'mon, CCP, just only once a common release hour? agreed by both, devs and ccp? or if 17:00 is again a fail, they will say that dews already put 19:00 in here? and 17:00 was a mistake? fair game, fair game...
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Reconnoitre
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:29:00 -
[266]
any way of Disabling THE WOW aspect of eve. ??????????????????????
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:35:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Lee ChanKa
we spec unprobable ships for PvP by implants set and ships ( 4 bil or so) you destroy that also)[/b] good ****ing job please make us all join ****ing blobs and destroy small corp pvp regard lee aka ewqi
To find your unprobable ship there must be an character with perfect skills, virtue set, and 8 sister probes. He put an effort and invested time and money to be able to find you. And you like lame noob just want to hang your unprobable T3 with gang bonus on the spot and forget about it? How this is killing pvp if you afk on that ship? You pvp in afk? Or maybe you just start using direct scan to find probes instead of posting **** on the forums?
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Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:36:00 -
[268]
POintless *******s, if i wanted to walk i would go outside. I want more internet spaceships for ****s sake. Bring Back Faction f.o.f.s
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Steven internet
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 -
[269]
Edited by: Steven internet on 21/06/2011 13:51:21 why nerf jumpbridges more? Oh well gotta use reaper alt more... and btw there has been covert/recon gangs picking ppl off at jumpbridges so theyre not 100% secure anyway this just adds more hassle and time wasted in traveling. also please fix graphic engine crashes, issues with RMT and lag in fleets before building "fancy" stuff like captain quarters (which is useless stuff anyway)
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Eve Downtime
Caldari Decadence.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:08:00 -
[270]
Originally by: evedtradio EVE Downtime Radio will be broadcasting with all the latest updates from CCP throughout the downtime for the release of Incarna, as well as player responses to the latest news, some stories from players and more just to keep you entertained throughout downtime, so visit and listen at www.evedowntimeradio.com !
hey, I like that name!
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xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:18:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Lee ChanKa [b] I DON'T ****ING CARE FOR MISSION RUNNERS
WHAT IS ABOUT PPL WHO USE IT IN PVP..Jesus ****ing christ
you destroy every ****ing possibility for small corp to do some **** in pvp
Quote: Jump Bridges
* It is now only possible for one jump bridge to be online in a system at any given time. If two jump bridges are online in the same system when the patch is deployed, one of them will be taken offline. If you try to anchor a jump bridge in a system that already has one jump bridge or more anchored, it will not anchor. No jump bridges will be unanchored by the patch. Players will be able to unanchor their jump bridges that are offlined by the patch.
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Libria Kyzal
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:26:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Care Bear King Rumor has bombs and bubbles useable in both low and hi sec on sisi prior to patch. Expect bombs at the 4-4 undock post-patch if true.
True or false? Because that would drive me crazy, bubbles in highsec... Bombs are stupid in low and high anyway, you're just gonna get concorded.
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Dan Andrei
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:51:00 -
[273]
"It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked."
Does this mean that you cannot make an un-scannable Tengu anymore?
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Hitomi Fargazer
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:59:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Lee ChanKa
we spec unprobable ships for PvP by implants set and ships ( 4 bil or so) you destroy that also)
good ****ing job please make us all join ****ing blobs and destroy small corp pvp
please also destroy cloaks so we cant camp cloaked and we don't need to roam in bombers and **** what we need that..but wait first to spend to find fit which will cost me 6 motnhs of training and 10 bilions and then destroy it...
the rage, it is strong in this one...
u mad that you cant do unprobable uncatchable macha gangs anymore?
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Lee ChanKa
WEPRA CORP
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:17:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Hitomi Fargazer
Originally by: Lee ChanKa
we spec unprobable ships for PvP by implants set and ships ( 4 bil or so) you destroy that also)
good ****ing job please make us all join ****ing blobs and destroy small corp pvp
please also destroy cloaks so we cant camp cloaked and we don't need to roam in bombers and **** what we need that..but wait first to spend to find fit which will cost me 6 motnhs of training and 10 bilions and then destroy it...
the rage, it is strong in this one...
u mad that you cant do unprobable uncatchable macha gangs anymore?
that is correct sir
but i will find new way, to make hell for you and other cerbers, witch live with other 5k ppl in gay alliances and power blocks, and ppl who destroying pvp in this game in past 4 years ..with thingy like... MOM HE IS GOING 5K IN VAGABOND WHAT TO DO BOHOOOOOO CCP NERF THEM, MOM CURSE HAVE HEAVY DRONES AND NEUTS AND NOS WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOO CCP NERF THEM, MOOOOM NERF DAMPNS, MOOOM NERF JAMERS, MOOOOM NERF SIEGE LUNCHERS, MOM NERF SABRE, MMMMMOOM NERF ****ING EVERYTHING SO I CAN PLAY EVE-WOW ONLINE IN PEACEEEEEEE.....
and post with your main
regard lee aka ewqi
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:18:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Care Bear King Rumor has bombs and bubbles useable in both low and hi sec on sisi prior to patch. Expect bombs at the 4-4 undock post-patch if true.
Meh, sounds more like rumor-mongering for market manipulation of such items.
----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
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Euphonus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:32:00 -
[277]
Originally by: stoicfaux
Originally by: Care Bear King Rumor has bombs and bubbles useable in both low and hi sec on sisi prior to patch. Expect bombs at the 4-4 undock post-patch if true.
Meh, sounds more like rumor-mongering for market manipulation of such items.
In highsec? Oh god the griefing that will ensue. Bubbles (ie. dictor, not anchorable/hictor ones) in lowsec... Iffy. I'm torn on that. Bombs? fine, why not? But in highsec? no thanks.
BTW, you'd get concorded if I tried warping out of your bubble and we were neutral to one another, so... it'd be pretty stupid.
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OldWolf69
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:37:00 -
[278]
Do we have a patch, yet?
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enderhexfyre
Gallente D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 -
[279]
Sure would be nice if ccp put up the patch to download while we are sitting here doing nothing Killboard Link
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Kal Rensic
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 -
[280]
It amazes me there is no patch yet. It's not like they didn't know this was coming, and it's not like they didn't have all of this coding ready. Instead the servers go empty for about an hour after DT while everyone DLs the client. Not the best forward planning CCP.
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Scitor Nantom
Minmatar AfterMath. -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:02:00 -
[281]
It's telling me I have wrong version, but not opening a download interface when I click "ok". _______________________________________
For the Republic, For the Minmatar
http://eve.tilt180.com
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Kemoc Tregarth
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:02:00 -
[282]
Sure would be nice if I could start the download now so I could play when I get back from work.
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Nalga81
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:03:00 -
[283]
Extended down time Sweet.
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OldWolf69
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:06:00 -
[284]
Edited by: OldWolf69 on 21/06/2011 16:07:29 "EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding." Once again, Epic. Once again EU players loose a day. Why should i have known that? ... BTW, it is the...x+1 time we loose gametime we play for. No, i won't waste my breath asking for reimbursement.
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Doc Mexallon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:11:00 -
[285]
Quote: Ships The Maller, an Amarr cruiser, has had a dramatic makeover and looks fantastic. Go buy one tomorrow and be the envy of all your friends.
Nooo.. what have you done to Flappy? Is it a cosmetic hull change which carries to the Devoter and Sac (yaboo) or a change to the specs of the ship (yahoo)?
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Barking Dragon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:12:00 -
[286]
So, what's the over under on how long downtime is extended past 17:00? My guess is 5 hours.
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Caveat Emptor Tempora
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:14:00 -
[287]
cant wait for it to get up and running, not mainly due to updates - I didnt realise it would take the whole day and my training complete's very soon (my error I know). If it delays again I will not get on till 9am at the earliest(add on extra for patch download lol)
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:15:00 -
[288]
We are up to 2 hours so far.... 19:00. And to think all this so that some dork can oogle his female character in a station. Honestly is anyone really excited about tooling around a station when you can leave the station and PVP?
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Sirius Northlight
Hamburger Jungs ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:23:00 -
[289]
its always the same, i knew why i put on a very long skill in training...first it was said 5-19:00 UTC..and now its 7 to 21:00 UTC.. guess server is back again tomorrow... btw, why cant we dl the patch, yet??
Thx CCP!
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Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:27:00 -
[290]
Originally by: OldWolf69
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
Suggestion to CCP... next time use incremental commits... Add 5 hours on the first extension is a little more then 'longer than expected'. My ISK is on downtime lasting at least 24 hours.
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Beldereth
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:39:00 -
[291]
Uptime delays are a bit like flight delays. We're never surprised when they happen, and the original estimate never seems to be right...
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:49:00 -
[292]
Quote: So what's the TL;DR?
We're going to start selling vanity items for a new currency called Aurum (which is created from PLEX). We hope you enjoy it but, if you don't, you're in no way forced to take part in it. This will launch within the next couple of months.
More exact details on items for sale, conversion from PLEX to AUR and item pricing will be coming soon.
I love how they say we are in no way forced to take part....when the reality we are forced to take part because it is part of the "sandbox", and those of us that don't want to take part in dressing our dolls are sitting here not playing eve because you are forcing doll dressing on all of us. Whether we take part or not is irrelevant, it impacts the game, and therefore impacts everybody playing the game. If you want to go dress dolls buy a barbie game.
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Evelaina
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:49:00 -
[293]
Bad... Very bad. I'm crying!!! Also, i hope that my computer can use EVE without lags... I hope. CCP - i trust to you.
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rampro
Heroes. Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:04:00 -
[294]
Originally by: OldWolf69 Do we have a patch, yet?
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DANTES666
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:06:00 -
[295]
ohhh, really extended downtime from the extended downtime... ohh, it never happent before...
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:08:00 -
[296]
I'd like t know what ccp ****ed up for the downtime to be another 2 hours? seems like i wont be able to play at all tonight, will we get a refund of game time? Love Simon xxx |
DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:12:00 -
[297]
Edited by: DiscomBoBulate on 21/06/2011 17:13:57 Boy if I hit deadlines like these guys in my job I would be fired....so who is CCP going to fire? Oh wait they aren't losing any money. We are all still paying them to take their time.
However, if you are going to fire someone, then can I nominate GM Horse - he's a Horse's backside.
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Pyrus Octavius
Beyond Control. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:13:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Simon Pieman I'd like t know what ccp ****ed up for the downtime to be another 2 hours? seems like i wont be able to play at all tonight, will we get a refund of game time?
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic. Confucius say... "When called an idiot sometimes is better to be quiet than to open mouth and remove all doubt." |
Ach4t1us
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:17:00 -
[299]
Edited by: Ach4t1us on 21/06/2011 17:20:15 Wait some guys are whining cause they can't make uncloaked ships unscannable? C'mon be serious. If its not cloaked there always is something to scan down. You should except that CCP fixed this someday
Oh and you should except that they enlarge their downtimes. Seems like CCP's weak point.
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:18:00 -
[300]
Edited by: DiscomBoBulate on 21/06/2011 17:20:06
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
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Tony Star
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:20:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
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Shaddai Zenjii
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:22:00 -
[302]
Whilst today might be a landmark, for me its just more pain. The last big download scrambled my OS after running the 'repair' program and I'm still waiting for my machine back. But now I find that I don't have Shader 3!!!!
Been a full paying player for a year, love the game but now I'm forced out or have to buy another machine even tho mine is only a year old.
When I pointed all this out to CCP I just basically got 'tough ****' and 'not our problem'.
Hope it works out for you guys.
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:23:00 -
[303]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate Edited by: DiscomBoBulate on 21/06/2011 17:20:06
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
+1
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Pyrus Octavius
Beyond Control. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:24:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Well you got it, so you better learn to love it...cuz it's not gonna change. I don't like it either, and I personally feel it will get in the way of the way EvE is played today. Confucius say... "When called an idiot sometimes is better to be quiet than to open mouth and remove all doubt." |
Ach4t1us
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:24:00 -
[305]
woohooo i can't play eve for one day.... woohooo i want my 0,67 euros back woohooo
think about it
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Evil Stare
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:25:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Simon Pieman I'd like t know what ccp ****ed up for the downtime to be another 2 hours? seems like i wont be able to play at all tonight, will we get a refund of game time?
So translucent, vitamin D deficient, basement dwellers such as yourself, can finally go out and de-pastie themselves. I'd imagine you looking something like the librarian vampire in the first blade movie.
As an aside, you people who complain about the extended downtime each and every time there is a patch or update, I thank you. The level of internet weeping that the EVE community has achieved, has not let me down. As I sit here at work, reading all these wonderful, tear filled posts about, refunds and free skill points, I can only think of what a great day today truly is. Thank you all again.
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:27:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Ach4t1us woohooo i can't play eve for one day.... woohooo i want my 0,67 euros back woohooo
think about it
Ok, it might be .67 Euro's or 50 cents, whatever... Eve is ALWAYS down longer than they say they will be and if you add up all the downtime over the time you're a player (I've been here since '07) that time/money can really add up...
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Aina O'Sinnor
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:31:00 -
[308]
Guess why they extend the downtime besides assuring quality of the delivery? They did it for the lulz and they did it for the tears. CCP deserves some precious Tears¬ from all these(us) addicted whiners.
more!
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:31:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Since when is CCP worried about giving their customers what they want? Basically they have a group of people that think of things to keep themselves busy (while avoiding the main issues in the game....like lag). These people have a vision of eve that is very different from the average player.
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Alesmajer
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:31:00 -
[310]
Ok, my first post here but how do i download the expansion? Where do i download it. When i started up Eve just now, it said that Tranquility was incompatible.... Has Incarna been made available yet?
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Ach4t1us
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:33:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Ach4t1us woohooo i can't play eve for one day.... woohooo i want my 0,67 euros back woohooo
think about it
Ok, it might be .67 Euro's or 50 cents, whatever... Eve is ALWAYS down longer than they say they will be and if you add up all the downtime over the time you're a player (I've been here since '07) that time/money can really add up...
We get free skill points once and anyway did you ever noticed how many money you are wasting while you are asleep, or at work, or even...... :O or even don't want to play EvE.
And in addition to other MMO'S where nothing happens when you not play in Eve your Skillqeue, industrial jobs, and reasearch jobs still go on. Oh and if anyone will lose his POS cause of the lack of fuel, you could have fueled it before patch deployment
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Indorian
Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:33:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Alesmajer Ok, my first post here but how do i download the expansion? Where do i download it. When i started up Eve just now, it said that Tranquility was incompatible.... Has Incarna been made available yet?
Nah man, just wait. patch isn't live on the server yet, if anyone tells you to download it outside the client it will break your client and make you do a reinstall, just wait
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E'lisha
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:33:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Ach4t1us woohooo i can't play eve for one day.... woohooo i want my 0,67 euros back woohooo
think about it
Here 0,67 there 0,67 euros, than another 5 days of crashing after patch, new patch, and so on. Than you have quickly 5-10 Euros
RE: Quote: think about it
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:34:00 -
[314]
Originally by: Evil Stare
Originally by: Simon Pieman I'd like t know what ccp ****ed up for the downtime to be another 2 hours? seems like i wont be able to play at all tonight, will we get a refund of game time?
So translucent, vitamin D deficient, basement dwellers such as yourself, can finally go out and de-pastie themselves. I'd imagine you looking something like the librarian vampire in the first blade movie.
As an aside, you people who complain about the extended downtime each and every time there is a patch or update, I thank you. The level of internet weeping that the EVE community has achieved, has not let me down. As I sit here at work, reading all these wonderful, tear filled posts about, refunds and free skill points, I can only think of what a great day today truly is. Thank you all again.
Clever... Not really... Some people who play this game only get to this play this game one or two days a week (because they have a real life besides Eve), and with a 12 hour downtime, depending on where you live, they might have just taken your entire day for this week...
If you really don't play this game all that often because you're supposedly at work, you should be able to appreciate the frustration of missed game time...
But yes, it IS a wonderful day out... Not really, I live in Florida and it's pretty if you're a tourist, but once you're native it's just 100 degrees out with high humidity and there's nothing worth doing since it's what's there for you to do every day... o.O
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Indorian
Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:36:00 -
[315]
What I want to know is, how do people manage to buy a computer with a graphics card SO BAD it is useless in a year? Did you guys really not do your research? or were you scammed? If you were scammed, I should let you know I plan on quitting eve very soon, just sent me any amount of isk and I will double it and send it back to you FREE OF CHARGE!
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Demeck
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:36:00 -
[316]
lmao at all you *****ing about not having a t3 unprobable anymore. ive run 100's of lvl 5 in low sec and i have never used an unprobable ship before and i have never been scanned out before.get over it and use the d-scan, what else you gonna do while waiting for ships to blow up:p
if you have peeps trying it on flag them as -10 in standings to give you a heads up when they enter system..easy peasy
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Pax Timberlane
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:37:00 -
[317]
Edited by: Pax Timberlane on 21/06/2011 17:38:45 MOAR patch day emo tears! I need moar to power my reactor! Seriously, if you're getting your panties all up in bunch because you can't play a video game, you seriously need to re-evaluate your life or lack therof.
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Indorian
Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:38:00 -
[318]
What I want to know is, how do people manage to buy a computer with a graphics card SO BAD it is useless in a year? Did you guys really not do your research? or were you scammed? If you were scammed, I should let you know I plan on quitting eve very soon, just send me any amount of isk and I will double it and send it back to you.
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Demeck
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:38:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Indorian What I want to know is, how do people manage to buy a computer with a graphics card SO BAD it is useless in a year? Did you guys really not do your research? or were you scammed? If you were scammed, I should let you know I plan on quitting eve very soon, just sent me any amount of isk and I will double it and send it back to you FREE OF CHARGE!
20bill sent
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PDIG
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:38:00 -
[320]
Edited by: PDIG on 21/06/2011 17:38:42
Originally by: Evil Stare
Originally by: Simon Pieman I'd like t know what ccp ****ed up for the downtime to be another 2 hours? seems like i wont be able to play at all tonight, will we get a refund of game time?
So translucent, vitamin D deficient, basement dwellers such as yourself, can finally go out and de-pastie themselves. I'd imagine you looking something like the librarian vampire in the first blade movie.
As an aside, you people who complain about the extended downtime each and every time there is a patch or update, I thank you. The level of internet weeping that the EVE community has achieved, has not let me down. As I sit here at work, reading all these wonderful, tear filled posts about, refunds and free skill points, I can only think of what a great day today truly is. Thank you all again.
+1
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Alesmajer
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:40:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Indorian
Originally by: Alesmajer Ok, my first post here but how do i download the expansion? Where do i download it. When i started up Eve just now, it said that Tranquility was incompatible.... Has Incarna been made available yet?
Nah man, just wait. patch isn't live on the server yet, if anyone tells you to download it outside the client it will break your client and make you do a reinstall, just wait
Yup, i see now the difference between my time and the board time CCP has. :) NP, i can wait.
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ThargoidCSM
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:40:00 -
[322]
Just enjoy the fact that the game you love is being worked on in some way constantly... there will be times it addresses what you want and times it doesn't.
From reading a lot of these comments it is very clear that people have no clue what it takes to implement changes on a live platform and the issues that may arise. Just chill, be patient and wait for the new content. And for those of you who bring up the age old lag bs.... the difference between now and 7 years ago is immense... the only time there are problems are when people choose (and I repeat, CHOOSE) to join a 500 man fleet. What do you expect :P
:)
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:41:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Ach4t1us
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Ach4t1us woohooo i can't play eve for one day.... woohooo i want my 0,67 euros back woohooo
think about it
Ok, it might be .67 Euro's or 50 cents, whatever... Eve is ALWAYS down longer than they say they will be and if you add up all the downtime over the time you're a player (I've been here since '07) that time/money can really add up...
We get free skill points once and anyway did you ever noticed how many money you are wasting while you are asleep, or at work, or even...... :O or even don't want to play EvE.
And in addition to other MMO'S where nothing happens when you not play in Eve your Skillqeue, industrial jobs, and reasearch jobs still go on. Oh and if anyone will lose his POS cause of the lack of fuel, you could have fueled it before patch deployment
Wasting time/money at work, sleeping and living my life are all things that can not be avoided, however, when I have to work longer than I am supposed to I am paid more money (overtime), when I sleep longer I wake more refreshed and my brain functions properly, I am compensated for doing that activity longer.
When Eve patches take longer (and 12 hours to load code that's already been written and supposedly tested, is kind of a long time when most games can patch in 4-10 without fail 90% of the time)the only thing I am compensated with are trolls on their forum when I'm trying to find out how much longer the patch is and why is it taking longer...
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Fy'nite
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:44:00 -
[324]
only reason i hate extended dt is cause i have to pace myself. and a certain point of my body simply cannot take the abuse anymore..it looks and feels like a mushroom
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Brokers Clone
Amarr Northgate
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:44:00 -
[325]
Originally by: ThargoidCSM ...From reading a lot of these comments it is very clear that people have no clue what it takes to implement changes on a live platform and the issues that may arise...
I agree, long as you don't mean EVERYONE... (Speaking as the Senior Release Manager for a Fortune 75 company....)
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:45:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate Edited by: DiscomBoBulate on 21/06/2011 17:20:06
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
+1
i was in the middle of writting a witty response for the idiot that thinks this fail expansion is free but this guy not only beat me to it but put it better, sir i salute you Love Simon xxx |
Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:46:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Pax Timberlane Edited by: Pax Timberlane on 21/06/2011 17:38:45 MOAR patch day emo tears! I need moar to power my reactor! Seriously, if you're getting your panties all up in bunch because you can't play a video game, you seriously need to re-evaluate your life or lack therof.
So says the guy who's on the support forum 37 minutes after Eve is supposed to back up... So, what brings YOU here Pax? Just looking around...? Or just like the rest of us you're curious as to when the game will be back up...
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Angel Scott
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:49:00 -
[328]
Edited by: Angel Scott on 21/06/2011 17:49:14 Reserved.
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MrSpaceDragon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:49:00 -
[329]
Oh jeeez, I'm going to have a heart attack if I can't log on soon.
I understand that there has to be a little bit of downtime once in a while, but how am I supposed to go for over 12 consecutive hours without logging in once???!!
I'm suffering some severe mental and psychological trauma here, and I better get a one day refund(0.75 euro), and some skill points(at least 200sp) for my pain and withdrawls.
he he he he.
And why hasn't my mom brought me some cookies?? Doesn't she know that I'm totolly freakin out in the basement?!!!!
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Fy'nite
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:50:00 -
[330]
not sure if this is allowed but for all of you who want something to do while u wait i give you this linky to a grt pew pew game:) yarr [url="http://http://battlefield.play4free.com
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Shaddai Zenjii
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:55:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Indorian What I want to know is, how do people manage to buy a computer with a graphics card SO BAD it is useless in a year? Did you guys really not do your research? or were you scammed? If you were scammed, I should let you know I plan on quitting eve very soon, just sent me any amount of isk and I will double it and send it back to you FREE OF CHARGE!
No I wasn't 'scammed', my son brought me the computer after my wife died. Eve has been great fun and none of my corpmates cared that I was old.
So maybe my only 'crime' was not being 20 anymore eh? And I might be old but I'm not stupid, so I'll pass on your scam. Thank you :)
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:55:00 -
[332]
Edited by: Simon Pieman on 21/06/2011 17:56:17
Originally by: Evil Stare
Originally by: Simon Pieman I'd like t know what ccp ****ed up for the downtime to be another 2 hours? seems like i wont be able to play at all tonight, will we get a refund of game time?
So translucent, vitamin D deficient, basement dwellers such as yourself, can finally go out and de-pastie themselves. I'd imagine you looking something like the librarian vampire in the first blade movie. Originally by: Evil Stare
LOL your funny im black ffs Love Simon xxx |
Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:55:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Fy'nite not sure if this is allowed but for all of you who want something to do while u wait i give you this linky to a grt pew pew game:) yarr [url="http://http://battlefield.play4free.com
Screw that, I'm going to check out the 8 hour free trial of Vendetta Online...
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:56:00 -
[334]
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Independent of you asking for it, you agreed to it. Section 10, topic D, subsection iii of your EULA you agreed to in order to play the game.
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
And to you I would like to point out the earlier mentioned entry in combination with section 12, paragraph 3. Yes you have paid for play time, but obviously written in the EULA it indicates that th eservice is available most of the time and states that it will not always be available. If you feel you are not getting your money's worth you are free to stop playing. People really need to understand what they agree to and stop whining.
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Sirius Northlight
Hamburger Jungs ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:56:00 -
[335]
lool..of course this expansion isnt free at all...and also its in ccp's interest to update their game or everybody gets boring after some years.
but i know for sure that they're hard working on that..cause time is money ;)
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Olio Grey
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:57:00 -
[336]
ROFL, there are some seriously funny comments in this thread.
I didn't want this, so I should get a refund for downtime. Here's your 48 cents back for the downtime. Oh wait, that's right, most people with 1/2 a cell left in there brain can read the EULA and they get there answer instantly. There are those who choose to educate themselves in this world, and there are those who choose to walk blindly.
I just bought my PC and now CCP won't buy me a new computer because I was too cheap or too dumb to buy a good PC to begin with. And CCP had the nerve to tell me to go away when I complained.
This stuff is too good. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Please keep posting, I need something funny to continue reading during the downtime.
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Ithiria Deritan
Amarr Disciples of Night Dominion of Darkness
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:58:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Independent of you asking for it, you agreed to it. Section 10, topic D, subsection iii of your EULA you agreed to in order to play the game.
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
And to you I would like to point out the earlier mentioned entry in combination with section 12, paragraph 3. Yes you have paid for play time, but obviously written in the EULA it indicates that th eservice is available most of the time and states that it will not always be available. If you feel you are not getting your money's worth you are free to stop playing. People really need to understand what they agree to and stop whining.
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:58:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Independent of you asking for it, you agreed to it. Section 10, topic D, subsection iii of your EULA you agreed to in order to play the game.
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
And to you I would like to point out the earlier mentioned entry in combination with section 12, paragraph 3. Yes you have paid for play time, but obviously written in the EULA it indicates that th eservice is available most of the time and states that it will not always be available. If you feel you are not getting your money's worth you are free to stop playing. People really need to understand what they agree to and stop whining.
LOL NERD ALERT!!!!! Love Simon xxx |
xXKIMELXx
Gallente Emperor Society
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:59:00 -
[339]
Ok, the heck with you folks complaining about downtime, I just want to make sure my updates are compatible. I tried to log in today and it said "Incompatible Version"..no problem, so i did what everyone else does, go look up the latest patch right. Wrong, it wouldnt let me do it, nor does it acknowledge that I was puting it in the right folder. Whats up with that?,,some feedback would be nice right about now, thanks. KiMEL Ki' |
Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:00:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Independent of you asking for it, you agreed to it. Section 10, topic D, subsection iii of your EULA you agreed to in order to play the game.
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
And to you I would like to point out the earlier mentioned entry in combination with section 12, paragraph 3. Yes you have paid for play time, but obviously written in the EULA it indicates that th eservice is available most of the time and states that it will not always be available. If you feel you are not getting your money's worth you are free to stop playing. People really need to understand what they agree to and stop whining.
-1 because you actually READ the EULA... Nobody reads those things...
Besides, let me quote another documentation from this same website: "EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is scheduled for deployment during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 21. Downtime will begin at 07:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 17:00 UTC." notice it says "17:00 UTC and NOT 19:00 UTC"...
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Jack Lad
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:01:00 -
[341]
Well Done CCP on your continued improvement of my Game, as a Player that started playing this game early in 2004, i have seen so much improvement to this game but there is still one thing that has failed to changed since then, that is the continued whinging and whining of people about every god darn patch or expansion that comes out,give it a rest. You people want to go play any other mmo and you will see that this game is and will remain one of the most stable, Lag controled and playable games there is avalible, but most of all the client softeware supplied free of charge and hopefully will remain so. Please CCP carry on the great work and please pass on my congratz to the dev team for a job well done Thankyou
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Novacain
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:01:00 -
[342]
Obviously we are being shafted by CCP once again. When will this terror end? When? Or perhaps why?
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Fy'nite
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:02:00 -
[343]
Originally by: CCP Spitfire EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is scheduled for deployment during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 21. Downtime will begin at 05:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 19:00 UTC.
Incarna 1.0 features Captain's Quarters - the first step towards opening the interiors of space stations for players; the new graphics and animations for ship turrets; and the new Noble Exchange store offering new and exciting goods. The new players will now embark on their journey in EVE Online guided by completely revamped tutorials and the familiar voice of Aura, while the new agent finder and corporation recruitment tools will make life easier for all pilots.
you missed this bit then
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Ithiria Deritan
Amarr Disciples of Night Dominion of Darkness
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:02:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Independent of you asking for it, you agreed to it. Section 10, topic D, subsection iii of your EULA you agreed to in order to play the game.
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
And to you I would like to point out the earlier mentioned entry in combination with section 12, paragraph 3. Yes you have paid for play time, but obviously written in the EULA it indicates that th eservice is available most of the time and states that it will not always be available. If you feel you are not getting your money's worth you are free to stop playing. People really need to understand what they agree to and stop whining.
-1 because you actually READ the EULA... Nobody reads those things...
Besides, let me quote another documentation from this same website: "EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is scheduled for deployment during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 21. Downtime will begin at 07:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 17:00 UTC." notice it says "17:00 UTC and NOT 19:00 UTC"...
and I'd note to you the Expected to be completed that that it will be 100% sure to be completed by 1700 null |
Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:03:00 -
[345]
Originally by: xXKIMELXx Ok, the heck with you folks complaining about downtime, I just want to make sure my updates are compatible. I tried to log in today and it said "Incompatible Version"..no problem, so i did what everyone else does, go look up the latest patch right. Wrong, it wouldnt let me do it, nor does it acknowledge that I was puting it in the right folder. Whats up with that?,,some feedback would be nice right about now, thanks. KiMEL
It will say incompatible version until they are done applying the patch, then when they are finished your log-in screen will download the patch when you attempt to log-in...
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:04:00 -
[346]
Originally by: Estherenza
Besides, let me quote another documentation from this same website: "EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is scheduled for deployment during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 21. Downtime will begin at 07:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 17:00 UTC." notice it says "17:00 UTC and NOT 19:00 UTC"...
Notice it says expected and not guaranteed.
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AkaiDruiD II
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:07:00 -
[347]
Originally by: Ach4t1us woohooo i can't play eve for one day.... woohooo i want my 0,67 euros back woohooo
think about it
THINK about this... 4wks, total of 2wks of updates+server problems+downloading more crap = HALF of my subscription, more than w/e a fkin euro is ;P
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Fy'nite
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:07:00 -
[348]
wow so many comments im having to click the refresh button as much as i use the d-scan while running missions.. guess im playing eve woohoo
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CRUTA OMEGA
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:07:00 -
[349]
I been twiddling my thumbs all day even took a day of work. I hope we get the time in terms of this extended downtime back off our game time......
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AkaiDruiD II
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:09:00 -
[350]
..oh, and almost forgot ;P the "extended downtimes"
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xXKIMELXx
Gallente Emperor Society
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:09:00 -
[351]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: xXKIMELXx Ok, the heck with you folks complaining about downtime, I just want to make sure my updates are compatible. I tried to log in today and it said "Incompatible Version"..no problem, so i did what everyone else does, go look up the latest patch right. Wrong, it wouldnt let me do it, nor does it acknowledge that I was puting it in the right folder. Whats up with that?,,some feedback would be nice right about now, thanks. KiMEL
It will say incompatible version until they are done applying the patch, then when they are finished your log-in screen will download the patch when you attempt to log-in...
Ok, ty Estherenza. I will check back later :) Ki' |
Fy'nite
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:09:00 -
[352]
Originally by: CRUTA OMEGA I been twiddling my thumbs all day even took a day of work. I hope we get the time in terms of this extended downtime back off our game time......
lol ive done that before..and ive learnt one thing..take the day off after patch day:D
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:10:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Ithiria Deritan
and I'd note to you the Expected to be completed that that it will be 100% sure to be completed by 1700
Yes, yes... I know... Honestly I'm just here to troll the other trolls for fun until DT is over... Any side can be argued, I just like to fight for the losing side... o.O
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Von Raberg
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:12:00 -
[354]
Originally by: Fy'nite
Originally by: CRUTA OMEGA I been twiddling my thumbs all day even took a day of work. I hope we get the time in terms of this extended downtime back off our game time......
lol ive done that before..and ive learnt one thing..take the day off after patch day:D
True... i did it that way this time and i'm happy about it ;)
Keep the add ons charge free CCP - keep the quality and i am happy. A few hours of waiting more or less... i dont care.
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CRUTA OMEGA
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:14:00 -
[355]
Originally by: Fy'nite
Originally by: CRUTA OMEGA I been twiddling my thumbs all day even took a day of work. I hope we get the time in terms of this extended downtime back off our game time......
lol ive done that before..and ive learnt one thing..take the day off after patch day:D
Hahahaaa I will have to bear that in my in the future LOL good one!
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C0SMIC GIRL
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:14:00 -
[356]
21/06/2011 EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended
EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
21:00 ? ouch, oh well, guess i will try tomorrow :)
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:14:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Ithiria Deritan
and I'd note to you the Expected to be completed that that it will be 100% sure to be completed by 1700
Yes, yes... I know... Honestly I'm just here to troll the other trolls for fun until DT is over... Any side can be argued, I just like to fight for the losing side... o.O
Your my hero, i think i love you Love Simon xxx |
Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 -
[358]
Originally by: AkaiDruiD II
Originally by: Ach4t1us woohooo i can't play eve for one day.... woohooo i want my 0,67 euros back woohooo
think about it
THINK about this... 4wks, total of 2wks of updates+server problems+downloading more crap = HALF of my subscription, more than w/e a fkin euro is ;P
+1 (1 euro is worth $1.44 in American money)
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 -
[359]
Originally by: Simon Pieman
LOL NERD ALERT!!!!!
I freely admit to being a nerd. More important I'm a network administrator, and as one it is vital to read the EULA of every piece of software used on a company's network. That way you are aware of and can plan for every single way a software company will try to limit or screw you for your use of their software on your network.
The people that do not read them are just looking to get screwed over later on when they try to react to something they have already agreed to.
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12 manbrawl Ormand
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:16:00 -
[360]
Thank you drund, for being smarter that everyone else on this forum. If you people would shut up and understand that CCP is probably doing the best they can to get the update done as soon as possible. I'd bet if you werent posting all the hate comments, CCP would actualy answer some of our questions and let us know what's going wrong. Who knows, I'm betting it's not even their fault they probably had technical issues.
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Dalarus Mabebu
Amarr Lost Armada
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:20:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: xXKIMELXx Ok, the heck with you folks complaining about downtime, I just want to make sure my updates are compatible. I tried to log in today and it said "Incompatible Version"..no problem, so i did what everyone else does, go look up the latest patch right. Wrong, it wouldnt let me do it, nor does it acknowledge that I was puting it in the right folder. Whats up with that?,,some feedback would be nice right about now, thanks. KiMEL
It will say incompatible version until they are done applying the patch, then when they are finished your log-in screen will download the patch when you attempt to log-in...
Got the patch link from another thread
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:21:00 -
[362]
Originally by: Von Raberg
Originally by: Fy'nite
Originally by: CRUTA OMEGA I been twiddling my thumbs all day even took a day of work. I hope we get the time in terms of this extended downtime back off our game time......
lol ive done that before..and ive learnt one thing..take the day off after patch day:D
True... i did it that way this time and i'm happy about it ;)
Keep the add ons charge free CCP - keep the quality and i am happy. A few hours of waiting more or less... i dont care.
The add-on's aren't free... They're implementing a whole new currency (which for the most part can only be bought with real money) and you will need this currency to buy items only available in that currency's market (until people buy the items and then put them on the standard isk market at un-Godly high prices...) in what way is that FREE...?
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:24:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Simon Pieman
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Ithiria Deritan
and I'd note to you the Expected to be completed that that it will be 100% sure to be completed by 1700
Yes, yes... I know... Honestly I'm just here to troll the other trolls for fun until DT is over... Any side can be argued, I just like to fight for the losing side... o.O
Your my hero, i think i love you
LOL... Nobody can love me, I'm like the wind...
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carpet licker
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:25:00 -
[364]
Originally by: C0SMIC GIRL 21/06/2011 EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended
EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
21:00 ? ouch, oh well, guess i will try tomorrow :)
OMG 10pm tonight my time..crap means i have to spend some time with my wife..not been with her for 11yrs cause we spent time together ya know
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Jack Lad
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:26:00 -
[365]
Now if this was World of Warcraft we would all be queing at the shop for the expansion to the game and part with yet another 35 bucks to install it, then when we got it all installed we would have to put up and shut up with what we had got, but this is Eve online we are talking about here we pay nothing and we will be able to get the software as soon as its released and install all from the comfort of the armchair and no need to que up in the rain waiting for the darn shop to open. Yet it seems people are still whinging about they have lost 1 buck of their game time.......Sigh
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Demeck
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:28:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Jack Lad Now if this was World of Warcraft we would all be queing at the shop for the expansion to the game and part with yet another 35 bucks to install it, then when we got it all installed we would have to put up and shut up with what we had got, but this is Eve online we are talking about here we pay nothing and we will be able to get the software as soon as its released and install all from the comfort of the armchair and no need to que up in the rain waiting for the darn shop to open. Yet it seems people are still whinging about they have lost 1 buck of their game time.......Sigh
lol not me i pay with plex..its someone elses dollar woot im winning \o/
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AdiSSoR
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:29:00 -
[367]
How much time is there until patch is available?
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Demeck
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:31:00 -
[368]
21:00 utc is 10pm gmt i believe ,but it could be anywhere between 21:00 gmt and the given time
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AkaiDruiD II
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:32:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Jack Lad Now if this was World of Warcraft we would all be queing at the shop for the expansion to the game and part with yet another 35 bucks to install it, then when we got it all installed we would have to put up and shut up with what we had got, but this is Eve online we are talking about here we pay nothing and we will be able to get the software as soon as its released and install all from the comfort of the armchair and no need to que up in the rain waiting for the darn shop to open. Yet it seems people are still whinging about they have lost 1 buck of their game time.......Sigh
It adds up to more than a "buck"(c my earlier post --^)...almost adds up to 1gal of gas ;P
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:33:00 -
[370]
Originally by: 12 manbrawl Ormand Thank you drund, for being smarter that everyone else on this forum. If you people would shut up and understand that CCP is probably doing the best they can to get the update done as soon as possible. I'd bet if you werent posting all the hate comments, CCP would actualy answer some of our questions and let us know what's going wrong. Who knows, I'm betting it's not even their fault they probably had technical issues.
LOL, CCP doesn't asnwer those questions on this board, that info. is on another page of this site (which I do not have the URL handy, you'll just have to look for it, but it IS there and in fact someone has quoted and given the reason for the extension w/ new DT ETA of 21:00 UTC).
We're just keeping CCP on their toes by keeping server requests going to the forum so they know we're getting antsy... They'll say to themselves, "Hurry, they're getting impatient... Get Tranquility up before they overwhelm the forums w/ server requests and bring down the whole system..." or something like that, LOL...
Nah, I really love CCP and this game though, I'm looking forward to walking around my Captain's Quarters, I'm looking forward to the bug fixes and new graphics changes, just sucks waiting 4 more hours than I expected...
*sigh*
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:34:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Simon Pieman
LOL NERD ALERT!!!!!
I freely admit to being a nerd. More important I'm a network administrator, and as one it is vital to read the EULA of every piece of software used on a company's network. That way you are aware of and can plan for every single way a software company will try to limit or screw you for your use of their software on your network.
The people that do not read them are just looking to get screwed over later on when they try to react to something they have already agreed to.
Dude get over yourself i bet your mum's really proud of you but tbh i couldnt give a flying **** what you do, so just bore on admin man.lol Love Simon xxx |
Katie Solette
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:35:00 -
[372]
wow a buck some people will cry about antything they can't control i just happy it not like some games that charge you for down loading it and a nother charge to play the new stuff in game.
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:38:00 -
[373]
Originally by: Jack Lad Now if this was World of Warcraft we would all be queing at the shop for the expansion to the game and part with yet another 35 bucks to install it, then when we got it all installed we would have to put up and shut up with what we had got, but this is Eve online we are talking about here we pay nothing and we will be able to get the software as soon as its released and install all from the comfort of the armchair and no need to que up in the rain waiting for the darn shop to open. Yet it seems people are still whinging about they have lost 1 buck of their game time.......Sigh
I stopped playing WoW 7 years ago...
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Gunner
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:38:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Katie Solette wow a buck some people will cry about antything they can't control i just happy it not like some games that charge you for down loading it and a nother charge to play the new stuff in game.
You already paid for it. In fact you will pay for the next expansion in the coming months, each month a few $ extra as compared to the other games out there like WOW. There is no free.
*** 2007.10.06 R.I.P. Hatuk my friend.
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InPrimus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:39:00 -
[375]
Damn... Some of us will be losing 4-5 hours of skill time for this... So are we looking at 1900 (2000 GMT) or 2200 (2300 GMT)? I for one say take as much time as you need to get things right.... Though it would be nice if you take requests and queue skills for people whose skill queue are finishing :)
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AkaiDruiD II
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:39:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Katie Solette wow a buck some people will cry about antything they can't control i just happy it not like some games that charge you for down loading it and a nother charge to play the new stuff in game.
;P ;P MORE than a "buck"! We r talking about 1gal of GAS! ;P lol
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:41:00 -
[377]
Originally by: Simon Pieman
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Simon Pieman
LOL NERD ALERT!!!!!
I freely admit to being a nerd. More important I'm a network administrator, and as one it is vital to read the EULA of every piece of software used on a company's network. That way you are aware of and can plan for every single way a software company will try to limit or screw you for your use of their software on your network.
The people that do not read them are just looking to get screwed over later on when they try to react to something they have already agreed to.
Dude get over yourself i bet your mum's really proud of you but tbh i couldnt give a flying **** what you do, so just bore on admin man.lol
LOL!!! Ok, ok, maybe we didn't ask for his life story, but that's a little harsh...
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Ithiria Deritan
Amarr Disciples of Night Dominion of Darkness
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:43:00 -
[378]
Originally by: InPrimus Damn... Some of us will be losing 4-5 hours of skill time for this... So are we looking at 1900 (2000 GMT) or 2200 (2300 GMT)? I for one say take as much time as you need to get things right.... Though it would be nice if you take requests and queue skills for people whose skill queue are finishing :)
smart people and people who read would have set up a long skill train, you know 2 days or more before the server shut down last night/this morning depending on TZ so no skill time lost null |
Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:43:00 -
[379]
Originally by: Katie Solette wow a buck some people will cry about antything they can't control i just happy it not like some games that charge you for down loading it and a nother charge to play the new stuff in game.
+1 because games that make you pay to unlock dungeons suck, but also -1 because Eve is implementing a similar system for new clothes, accessories, hair, etc... with their new currency and market...
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Jack Lad
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:46:00 -
[380]
Originally by: InPrimus Damn... Some of us will be losing 4-5 hours of skill time for this... So are we looking at 1900 (2000 GMT) or 2200 (2300 GMT)? I for one say take as much time as you need to get things right.... Though it would be nice if you take requests and queue skills for people whose skill queue are finishing :)
Didn't your CEO remind you to set a long skill? sorry, you are the CEO. hmmmmmm
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Tag Hawthorn
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:47:00 -
[381]
Can I haz cheeseburger now? =^.^=
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AkaiDruiD II
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:50:00 -
[382]
-(infinity) for "extended downtimes"
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Demeck
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:52:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Tag Hawthorn Can I haz cheeseburger now? =^.^=
OH you absolute B******D i could murder a cheese burger now...
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:54:00 -
[384]
Originally by: Tag Hawthorn Can I haz cheeseburger now? =^.^=
Mmmmmmm, cheeseburger...
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cavalier7
Gallente St Andrews
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:57:00 -
[385]
Originally by: InPrimus Damn... Some of us will be losing 4-5 hours of skill time for this... So are we looking at 1900 (2000 GMT) or 2200 (2300 GMT)? I for one say take as much time as you need to get things right.... Though it would be nice if you take requests and queue skills for people whose skill queue are finishing :)
Actually 1900 and 2200 are GMT, if you are in the UK the 2000 and 2300 are BST.
Yours
A. Pedant.
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:57:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Estherenza
LOL!!! Ok, ok, maybe we didn't ask for his life story, but that's a little harsh...
True enough, my information may have been a bit excessive. I simply was offering my background on understanding how these things work. As for his harshness on reply, it doesn't bother me. People can either understand and grow or stay ignorant.
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DHuncan
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:59:00 -
[387]
Hurry up CCP, I cannot stand any longer these idiots complaining.
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Raptros
Paradox Fight Club
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:59:00 -
[388]
I can't believe how many people are asking for a refund of a DAYS gametime. I can find 59p (a days subscription) Down the back of the sofa. Now stop whining.
Anyway, under the EULA (remember the thing you agreed to before playing the game for the first time?) ccp cant refund you for the time the server is down, so good luck at getting a refund!
Please visit my fansite @ http://welsheveonline.webs.com/ |
Tara Nighthawk
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:01:00 -
[389]
Quote: Graphics
Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled.
What does this mean please? Is (or was) this an optional setting before? Are we talking about perspective effects or the way things become less distinct with distance?
Second point - 957MB
My ISP is going to go nuts this month
I suppose there is going to be huge demand once they restart - with pathetic download speeds as a result
Last point - it was suggested elsewhere that the new Captain's Quarters were only available for Minmatar. Admittedly they have crap-looking ships so this might be fair, but I am hoping all races get the CQ right away?
Will these be customised for each race? Will there be an option to turn off that damned Gregorian Chant in Amarr CQs?
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Sarah Bolan
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:02:00 -
[390]
Still waiting...
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Alpha Centaris
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:02:00 -
[391]
I was wondering if anybody downloaded the new patch yet, or is it even available for downloading? I tried to manually download it and I'm not seeing the new build on the list
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MrSpaceDragon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:03:00 -
[392]
Is it ready yet? Oh geez, I can't wait any more. I'm going to explode!
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DaRuLe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:04:00 -
[393]
Originally by: DHuncan Hurry up CCP, I cannot stand any longer these idiots complaining.
^^ this
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Raptros
Paradox Fight Club
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Alpha Centaris I was wondering if anybody downloaded the new patch yet, or is it even available for downloading? I tried to manually download it and I'm not seeing the new build on the list
No, it's not. If you have read any of the news items or other posts on this thread you would have known.
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MrSpaceDragon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 -
[395]
It's 19:04, I thought it was going to be ready by now. I'm about to poop my pants!
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Norbert Hauler
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 -
[396]
To be fair, downtime apart... ALL the upgrades from CCP are free. Some companies would charge you for the privilege. The whiners should stop whining.. the experienced players should accept it ! A MAJOR upgrade always takes longer than CCP says...
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superNuts
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:07:00 -
[397]
Originally by: Tara Nighthawk
Quote: Graphics
Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled.
What does this mean please? Is (or was) this an optional setting before? Are we talking about perspective effects or the way things become less distinct with distance?
Second point - 957MB
My ISP is going to go nuts this month
I suppose there is going to be huge demand once they restart - with pathetic download speeds as a result
Last point - it was suggested elsewhere that the new Captain's Quarters were only available for Minmatar. Admittedly they have crap-looking ships so this might be fair, but I am hoping all races get the CQ right away?
Will these be customised for each race? Will there be an option to turn off that damned Gregorian Chant in Amarr CQs?
LOL at Gregorian Chant
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:07:00 -
[398]
Yeah, these patches and expansions are free. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:08:00 -
[399]
Originally by: Tara Nighthawk
Quote: Graphics
Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled.
What does this mean please? Is (or was) this an optional setting before? Are we talking about perspective effects or the way things become less distinct with distance?
Second point - 957MB
My ISP is going to go nuts this month
I suppose there is going to be huge demand once they restart - with pathetic download speeds as a result
Last point - it was suggested elsewhere that the new Captain's Quarters were only available for Minmatar. Admittedly they have crap-looking ships so this might be fair, but I am hoping all races get the CQ right away?
Will these be customised for each race? Will there be an option to turn off that damned Gregorian Chant in Amarr CQs?
Depth effects refers to the 3-D rendering and it will only apply to users with low-end graphics cards (probably only the video cards that use shared memory)
Not sure about d/l speeds as I thin CCP uses a bit torrent style downloader so in theory the more people currently downloading, the faster you should d/l...
CQ will be enabled for ALL races, though I am unsure about that damned Gregorian chant, LOL...
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Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:08:00 -
[400]
Originally by: MrSpaceDragon It's 19:04, I thought it was going to be ready by now. I'm about to poop my pants!
2130 is the last time I've seen... 2+ hours left...
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:10:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Estherenza
LOL!!! Ok, ok, maybe we didn't ask for his life story, but that's a little harsh...
True enough, my information may have been a bit excessive. I simply was offering my background on understanding how these things work. As for his harshness on reply, it doesn't bother me. People can either understand and grow or stay ignorant.
LOL dude really? No 1 cares what you think your BORING!!! Love Simon xxx |
Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:10:00 -
[402]
Originally by: Alpha Centaris I was wondering if anybody downloaded the new patch yet, or is it even available for downloading? I tried to manually download it and I'm not seeing the new build on the list
New patch won't be ready for 2 more hours...
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MrSpaceDragon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:11:00 -
[403]
Originally by: Pixx Harmon
Originally by: MrSpaceDragon It's 19:04, I thought it was going to be ready by now. I'm about to poop my pants!
2130 is the last time I've seen... 2+ hours left...
Great, now I've got to change my pants while I wait.
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superNuts
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:11:00 -
[404]
I guess this is the closest thing to chat going on right now. I think I might even poop my pants if they extend down time any longer
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:12:00 -
[405]
Edited by: JC Anderson on 21/06/2011 19:18:01
Originally by: superNuts LOL at Gregorian Chant
Metallica's "Nothing Else Matters" cover in Gregorian Chant style
Simon and G's "Sound of Silence" Gregorian Chant Style
Queen's "Who wants to live forever" Gregorian Chant Style
Queen's "We are the champions" Gregorian Chant Style
Beatles "Hey Jude" Gregorian Chant Style
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Alpha Centaris
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:12:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Raptros
Originally by: Alpha Centaris I was wondering if anybody downloaded the new patch yet, or is it even available for downloading? I tried to manually download it and I'm not seeing the new build on the list
No, it's not. If you have read any of the news items or other posts on this thread you would have known.
There is no need to be a an ***hole about it I just asked a question. a simple yes or no would have been enough prick
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Estherenza
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:13:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Norbert Hauler To be fair, downtime apart... ALL the upgrades from CCP are free. Some companies would charge you for the privilege. The whiners should stop whining.. the experienced players should accept it ! A MAJOR upgrade always takes longer than CCP says...
Again, the upgrades are NOT all free, new items will be placed on a new market using a new currency that for the most part can only be bought with real money... That is NOT free...
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cavalier7
Gallente St Andrews
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:13:00 -
[408]
Originally by: superNuts I guess this is the closest thing to chat going on right now. I think I might even poop my pants if they extend down time any longer
I fear you may have to poop away my friend...
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kapie nogg
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:13:00 -
[409]
YAY! extended downtime, gives me time to get some more booze and grub, looking forward to CQ, somewhere to count my iskies where no'one can here me lawling
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Raptros
Paradox Fight Club
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:17:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Alpha Centaris
Originally by: Raptros
Originally by: Alpha Centaris I was wondering if anybody downloaded the new patch yet, or is it even available for downloading? I tried to manually download it and I'm not seeing the new build on the list
No, it's not. If you have read any of the news items or other posts on this thread you would have known.
There is no need to be a an ***hole about it I just asked a question. a simple yes or no would have been enough prick
Wow cool down! There's no need to start using bad language! I was just saying that it is sometimes better to find out yourself before asking questions.
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Vedanul
Caldari Thug's Squad
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:17:00 -
[411]
I hope to be casinos in the "Incarna" ... I want to play poker
[url=http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=681663][/url]
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Kahroline Matsuda
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:18:00 -
[412]
Cannot wait to see the changes... just wish they'd let me log in.
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superNuts
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:18:00 -
[413]
*superNuts poops his pants
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Evil Stare
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:19:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Simon Pieman
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Estherenza
LOL!!! Ok, ok, maybe we didn't ask for his life story, but that's a little harsh...
True enough, my information may have been a bit excessive. I simply was offering my background on understanding how these things work. As for his harshness on reply, it doesn't bother me. People can either understand and grow or stay ignorant.
LOL dude really? No 1 cares what you think your BORING!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!shiftshiftoneone HECK YEAH BRO.... wait what?
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:21:00 -
[415]
pardon? Love Simon xxx |
Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:24:00 -
[416]
Originally by: superNuts *superNuts poops his pants
+1 because you pooped your pants... Also, -1 because you pooped your pants... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
FangVV
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:24:00 -
[417]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Norbert Hauler To be fair, downtime apart... ALL the upgrades from CCP are free. Some companies would charge you for the privilege. The whiners should stop whining.. the experienced players should accept it ! A MAJOR upgrade always takes longer than CCP says...
Again, the upgrades are NOT all free, new items will be placed on a new market using a new currency that for the most part can only be bought with real money... That is NOT free...
Well, I doubt very much whether those items will be critical to your ability to play the game or, for that matter, give anybody an advantage (ok, so a funky new hair style may distract your PvP opponent), so I don't see how this makes the patch NOT free. Nobody's forcing you to buy the stuf, which is cosmetic anyway, and it's not as if the whole market is being switched over to the new economy ...
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Razimus en Thielles
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:25:00 -
[418]
?? Still two hours?...ok I suppose with the time difference... but it was supposed to be up an hour ago...AAAGH!!!! I am starting to feel like Charlie Brown here
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12 manbrawl Ormand
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:25:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Simon Pieman
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Estherenza
LOL!!! Ok, ok, maybe we didn't ask for his life story, but that's a little harsh...
True enough, my information may have been a bit excessive. I simply was offering my background on understanding how these things work. As for his harshness on reply, it doesn't bother me. People can either understand and grow or stay ignorant.
LOL dude really? No 1 cares what you think your BORING!!!
I care more about what he says, rather than your attepts at trolling. Now shut up and stop wasting space on this thread, Id like to read intelligible posts.
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Rogue Hakoke
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:26:00 -
[420]
Originally by: superNuts *superNuts poops his pants
Don't worry friend i to have pooped my pants... and i will poop them again b4 the game comes back up though i do have gunnery 5 chugging as u can tell im a noob though im activley de-noobing myself
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:26:00 -
[421]
Originally by: FangVV
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Norbert Hauler To be fair, downtime apart... ALL the upgrades from CCP are free. Some companies would charge you for the privilege. The whiners should stop whining.. the experienced players should accept it ! A MAJOR upgrade always takes longer than CCP says...
Again, the upgrades are NOT all free, new items will be placed on a new market using a new currency that for the most part can only be bought with real money... That is NOT free...
Well, I doubt very much whether those items will be critical to your ability to play the game or, for that matter, give anybody an advantage (ok, so a funky new hair style may distract your PvP opponent), so I don't see how this makes the patch NOT free. Nobody's forcing you to buy the stuf, which is cosmetic anyway, and it's not as if the whole market is being switched over to the new economy ...
True enough... But by that logic you would be willing to pay for graphics updates, I mean, they're only cosmetic, right...? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:29:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Rogue Hakoke
Originally by: superNuts *superNuts poops his pants
Don't worry friend i to have pooped my pants... and i will poop them again b4 the game comes back up though i do have gunnery 5 chugging as u can tell im a noob though im activley de-noobing myself
+1 because I heart noobs... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Mina Avatar
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:29:00 -
[423]
Someone mentioned a casino earlier. Is there going to be casinos in the stations later on? It would be pretty cool if there was gambling mini-games, like a slot machine you can walk up to.
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FangVV
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:30:00 -
[424]
Originally by: FangVV
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Norbert Hauler To be fair, downtime apart... ALL the upgrades from CCP are free. Some companies would charge you for the privilege. The whiners should stop whining.. the experienced players should accept it ! A MAJOR upgrade always takes longer than CCP says...
Again, the upgrades are NOT all free, new items will be placed on a new market using a new currency that for the most part can only be bought with real money... That is NOT free...
Well, I doubt very much whether those items will be critical to your ability to play the game or, for that matter, give anybody an advantage (ok, so a funky new hair style may distract your PvP opponent), so I don't see how this makes the patch NOT free. Nobody's forcing you to buy the stuf, which is cosmetic anyway, and it's not as if the whole market is being switched over to the new economy ...
Hmm, actually, that makes me wonder if we'll now be able to salvage corpses for their cloths :)
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rampro
Heroes. Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:30:00 -
[425]
Edited by: rampro on 21/06/2011 19:30:43 will my mid range cpu work with eve on low to med settings or is it a must that i have to upgrade
also poker would be wicked when its released
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:31:00 -
[426]
Originally by: Mina Avatar Someone mentioned a casino earlier. Is there going to be casinos in the stations later on? It would be pretty cool if there was gambling mini-games, like a slot machine you can walk up to.
Gambling in stations has been spoken of during interviews with CCP.. Just nothing concrete yet.
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Krotius
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:33:00 -
[427]
Originally by: rampro Edited by: rampro on 21/06/2011 19:30:43 will my mid range cpu work with eve on low to med settings or is it a must that i have to upgrade
also poker would be wicked when its released
There is a page on this site that has the minimum reqs listed. Look it up.
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ButterFlavor
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:34:00 -
[428]
Heck fire! I'm gonna poop my pants!
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:34:00 -
[429]
Originally by: rampro Edited by: rampro on 21/06/2011 19:30:43 will my mid range cpu work with eve on low to med settings or is it a must that i have to upgrade
also poker would be wicked when its released
W/O looking at your specific system, it's hard to say, but if your pc was bought in the last year or two your probably good on at least med to med-high settings, possibly even high as long as you're not using shared memory resources. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:36:00 -
[430]
*PoooooooP* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
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Mina Avatar
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:37:00 -
[431]
Originally by: ButterFlavor Heck fire! I'm gonna poop my pants!
Enough with the pants pooping already!
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Norbert Hauler
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:37:00 -
[432]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Norbert Hauler To be fair, downtime apart... ALL the upgrades from CCP are free. Some companies would charge you for the privilege. The whiners should stop whining.. the experienced players should accept it ! A MAJOR upgrade always takes longer than CCP says...
Again, the upgrades are NOT all free, new items will be placed on a new market using a new currency that for the most part can only be bought with real money... That is NOT free...
But the upgrades ARE free in R/L money....
Whatever CCP decide to do ingame bears no relation to what you actually pay for your EVE subscription. You wanna trade or us R/L money ingame ? Your problem...
The point was.. upgrades to the game are FREE...
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CRUTA OMEGA
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:37:00 -
[433]
what going on 1700 to 1900 how long we got to wait111
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FangVV
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:38:00 -
[434]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: FangVV
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Norbert Hauler To be fair, downtime apart... ALL the upgrades from CCP are free. Some companies would charge you for the privilege. The whiners should stop whining.. the experienced players should accept it ! A MAJOR upgrade always takes longer than CCP says...
Again, the upgrades are NOT all free, new items will be placed on a new market using a new currency that for the most part can only be bought with real money... That is NOT free...
Well, I doubt very much whether those items will be critical to your ability to play the game or, for that matter, give anybody an advantage (ok, so a funky new hair style may distract your PvP opponent), so I don't see how this makes the patch NOT free. Nobody's forcing you to buy the stuf, which is cosmetic anyway, and it's not as if the whole market is being switched over to the new economy ...
True enough... But by that logic you would be willing to pay for graphics updates, I mean, they're only cosmetic, right...?
As long as whatever is being charged for is optional and does not give someone an advantage in gameplay then I have no problem with it so if shiny graphics comes at a price but has no impact on my ability to actually play the game then, sure, charge for it.
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Norbert Hauler
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:39:00 -
[435]
Originally by: FangVV
Originally by: FangVV
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Norbert Hauler To be fair, downtime apart... ALL the upgrades from CCP are free. Some companies would charge you for the privilege. The whiners should stop whining.. the experienced players should accept it ! A MAJOR upgrade always takes longer than CCP says...
Again, the upgrades are NOT all free, new items will be placed on a new market using a new currency that for the most part can only be bought with real money... That is NOT free...
Well, I doubt very much whether those items will be critical to your ability to play the game or, for that matter, give anybody an advantage (ok, so a funky new hair style may distract your PvP opponent), so I don't see how this makes the patch NOT free. Nobody's forcing you to buy the stuf, which is cosmetic anyway, and it's not as if the whole market is being switched over to the new economy ...
Hmm, actually, that makes me wonder if we'll now be able to salvage corpses for their cloths :)
Agree with Fang
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ButterFlavor
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:40:00 -
[436]
Originally by: Mina Avatar
Originally by: ButterFlavor Heck fire! I'm gonna poop my pants!
Enough with the pants pooping already!
Little girl, I'll poop in your mouth!
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Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:41:00 -
[437]
Originally by: Mina Avatar
Originally by: ButterFlavor Heck fire! I'm gonna poop my pants!
Enough with the pants pooping already!
Give me a minute I just ate some fiber...
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:43:00 -
[438]
Edited by: JC Anderson on 21/06/2011 19:44:04
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: rampro Edited by: rampro on 21/06/2011 19:30:43 will my mid range cpu work with eve on low to med settings or is it a must that i have to upgrade
also poker would be wicked when its released
W/O looking at your specific system, it's hard to say, but if your pc was bought in the last year or two your probably good on at least med to med-high settings, possibly even high as long as you're not using shared memory resources.
I ran a test recently and the one thing that confused me is that it seemed to have run BETTER on older hardware than it does on new. Ran tests from multiple machines.. The link below is to the lower end pc results. Hardware about 4 years old.
Test on duality, FRAPS footage - Includes docking to time it, and walking from ship platform to the inner quarters.
1920x1080 with all graphics options Max'ed out. AA+HDR enabled. Sound & Music also recorded for testing. Specs: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 CPU on Vista x64 OS 4GB RAM NVIDIA GTX260 Video card
File Link http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/JCA/dualitytest.wmv
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:43:00 -
[439]
Stupid question but... there no patch for the client?
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:43:00 -
[440]
Originally by: FangVV
As long as whatever is being charged for is optional and does not give someone an advantage in gameplay then I have no problem with it so if shiny graphics comes at a price but has no impact on my ability to actually play the game then, sure, charge for it.
-1 it's thinking like this that killed Final Fantasy online for me, "who cares if it looks like crap as long as they can play it...?". The players care... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
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Norbert Hauler
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:44:00 -
[441]
I totally agree with Fang. et al...
You should not be able to PAY for something that affects your player, or how good it makes you ingame.
You want to pay more for better visuals or more 'goodies' on screen.. feel free.
CCP should not make it where players can pay to be 'better'.... that's not in the spirit of the game..
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Norbert Hauler
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:46:00 -
[442]
Edited by: Norbert Hauler on 21/06/2011 19:46:20
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Vedanul
Caldari Thug's Squad
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:46:00 -
[443]
I want to lose my ship at a poker table
[url=http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=681663][/url]
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FangVV
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:46:00 -
[444]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: FangVV
As long as whatever is being charged for is optional and does not give someone an advantage in gameplay then I have no problem with it so if shiny graphics comes at a price but has no impact on my ability to actually play the game then, sure, charge for it.
-1 it's thinking like this that killed Final Fantasy online for me, "who cares if it looks like crap as long as they can play it...?". The players care...
Then the players pay. By your argument, no-one should ever have to pay for a new graphics card then ...
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superNuts
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:48:00 -
[445]
Originally by: Norbert Hauler I totally agree with Fang. et al...
You should not be able to PAY for something that affects your player, or how good it makes you ingame.
You want to pay more for better visuals or more 'goodies' on screen.. feel free.
CCP should not make it where players can pay to be 'better'.... that's not in the spirit of the game..
All those goodies are suppose to be able to be sold on open market for isk.
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JigglyPoof
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:49:00 -
[446]
It is out yet? I can't login
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:49:00 -
[447]
Edited by: JC Anderson on 21/06/2011 19:50:46
Originally by: JigglyPoof It is out yet? I can't login
No
Its still like an hour and a half or something when you take into account the most recent extended downtime message.
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LorenzoEDGE
Gallente Titan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 -
[448]
Originally by: ButterFlavor
Originally by: Mina Avatar
Originally by: ButterFlavor Heck fire! I'm gonna poop my pants!
Enough with the pants pooping already!
Little girl, I'll poop in your mouth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 -
[449]
Originally by: JC Anderson Edited by: JC Anderson on 21/06/2011 19:44:04
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: rampro Edited by: rampro on 21/06/2011 19:30:43 will my mid range cpu work with eve on low to med settings or is it a must that i have to upgrade
also poker would be wicked when its released
W/O looking at your specific system, it's hard to say, but if your pc was bought in the last year or two your probably good on at least med to med-high settings, possibly even high as long as you're not using shared memory resources.
I ran a test recently and the one thing that confused me is that it seemed to have run BETTER on older hardware than it does on new. Ran tests from multiple machines.. The link below is to the lower end pc results. Hardware about 4 years old.
Test on duality, FRAPS footage - Includes docking to time it, and walking from ship platform to the inner quarters.
1920x1080 with all graphics options Max'ed out. AA+HDR enabled. Sound & Music also recorded for testing. Specs: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 CPU on Vista x64 OS 4GB RAM NVIDIA GTX260 Video card
File Link http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/JCA/dualitytest.wmv
That's a pretty sweet set-up for an older piece of hardware, the GTX260 is a high-end GPU...
Are your newer computers using on-board cards with shared resources? It's the only reason I can think of why the old would out-perform the new... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:51:00 -
[450]
Are we there yet?
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Norbert Hauler
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:51:00 -
[451]
Yes, but that isn't part of your CCP subs... it's a bonus..
And we all love a bonus :)
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FangVV
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:51:00 -
[452]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: FangVV
As long as whatever is being charged for is optional and does not give someone an advantage in gameplay then I have no problem with it so if shiny graphics comes at a price but has no impact on my ability to actually play the game then, sure, charge for it.
-1 it's thinking like this that killed Final Fantasy online for me, "who cares if it looks like crap as long as they can play it...?". The players care...
Damn ... posted too soon ... as I was going to say ... that's not what I'm saying. If ALL graphics upgrades came at a price THEN I'd be ****ed off. What I was refering to was OPTIONAL additional graphics enhancements for those who have the money and the hardware for them.
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:53:00 -
[453]
Originally by: FangVV
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: FangVV
As long as whatever is being charged for is optional and does not give someone an advantage in gameplay then I have no problem with it so if shiny graphics comes at a price but has no impact on my ability to actually play the game then, sure, charge for it.
-1 it's thinking like this that killed Final Fantasy online for me, "who cares if it looks like crap as long as they can play it...?". The players care...
Then the players pay. By your argument, no-one should ever have to pay for a new graphics card then ...
Hmmmm... TouchT... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Beldereth
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:54:00 -
[454]
Not sure if anyone pointed this out yet, but the news page now says they expect servers back at 21:30 UTC. So 30 more mins added since last time they updated it.
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
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rampro
Heroes. Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:54:00 -
[455]
problem is i failed and bought a small case so upgrading my gfx card is somewhat hard , i have one its ok but not listing it for the space nerds to tear me a new one for not having a great gfx card , so a cpu upgrade is probably what i will be needing...
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:55:00 -
[456]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: JC Anderson Edited by: JC Anderson on 21/06/2011 19:44:04
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: rampro Edited by: rampro on 21/06/2011 19:30:43 will my mid range cpu work with eve on low to med settings or is it a must that i have to upgrade
also poker would be wicked when its released
W/O looking at your specific system, it's hard to say, but if your pc was bought in the last year or two your probably good on at least med to med-high settings, possibly even high as long as you're not using shared memory resources.
I ran a test recently and the one thing that confused me is that it seemed to have run BETTER on older hardware than it does on new. Ran tests from multiple machines.. The link below is to the lower end pc results. Hardware about 4 years old.
Test on duality, FRAPS footage - Includes docking to time it, and walking from ship platform to the inner quarters.
1920x1080 with all graphics options Max'ed out. AA+HDR enabled. Sound & Music also recorded for testing. Specs: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 CPU on Vista x64 OS 4GB RAM NVIDIA GTX260 Video card
File Link http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/JCA/dualitytest.wmv
That's a pretty sweet set-up for an older piece of hardware, the GTX260 is a high-end GPU...
Are your newer computers using on-board cards with shared resources? It's the only reason I can think of why the old would out-perform the new...
I was thinking that it could possibly be driver issues as well. I was actually going to be reformatting/reinstalling everything on one of the newer PC's this week already. Going to try testing performance again at that point.
You hear a lot of people with newer hardware complain about the performance of Incarna when it was on Duality and SiSi. Most of the reasons I could think of are all driver related... But unsure.
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FangVV
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:55:00 -
[457]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: FangVV
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: FangVV
As long as whatever is being charged for is optional and does not give someone an advantage in gameplay then I have no problem with it so if shiny graphics comes at a price but has no impact on my ability to actually play the game then, sure, charge for it.
-1 it's thinking like this that killed Final Fantasy online for me, "who cares if it looks like crap as long as they can play it...?". The players care...
Then the players pay. By your argument, no-one should ever have to pay for a new graphics card then ...
Hmmmm... TouchT...
but actually you are right. As someone pointed out earlier, the patches AREN'T free. You're paying for them a little every month
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:55:00 -
[458]
Originally by: LorenzoEDGE
Originally by: ButterFlavor
Originally by: Mina Avatar
Originally by: ButterFlavor Heck fire! I'm gonna poop my pants!
Enough with the pants pooping already!
Little girl, I'll poop in your mouth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w
I was afraid to click this, but DAMN, ROFLMAO!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:59:00 -
[459]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Independent of you asking for it, you agreed to it. Section 10, topic D, subsection iii of your EULA you agreed to in order to play the game.
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
And to you I would like to point out the earlier mentioned entry in combination with section 12, paragraph 3. Yes you have paid for play time, but obviously written in the EULA it indicates that th eservice is available most of the time and states that it will not always be available. If you feel you are not getting your money's worth you are free to stop playing. People really need to understand what they agree to and stop whining.
So when your boss tells you that he "expects" you to finish a project by a certain deadline and you don't what usually happens? When a construction project is expected to finish by a certain date and doesn't what happens? When you are expected to show up in court for not paying your child support and you don't show up what happens? (I know you have issues with this). There are consequences when you fail to meet expectations. Please tell me what is the result of failed expectations with this game?
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:00:00 -
[460]
Originally by: Estherenza I was afraid to click this, but DAMN, ROFLMAO!!!
:WIDEYES!:
ROFL like ice cream
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:00:00 -
[461]
Originally by: rampro problem is i failed and bought a small case so upgrading my gfx card is somewhat hard , i have one its ok but not listing it for the space nerds to tear me a new one for not having a great gfx card , so a cpu upgrade is probably what i will be needing...
I would upgrade the GPU first, if the case is small and it's too hard to do yourself, let the store techs do it for you (I do NOT recommend Geek Squad). As long as you have upgrade slots, there's no need to upgrade your cpu (unless you're working less than 3gb RAM...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Broomide
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:01:00 -
[462]
Ok im getting really sick and tired of people wining about "incarna" CQ and so on. First of all its just an evolution of eve. And psst the game will feature the same gameplay as ever. You just See your Neocom in a different way. And for what ive seen, it looks sweet.
The features to dress up your char. Hey wel If you dont like the option to change into New clothes. Dont !! And just move along playing eve like you always did.
Im exited where this is taking eve. And since if first logged on I wanted to see and walk around in the station. It will give eve new perspective.
Go CCP
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Stevevaughn Renalard
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:03:00 -
[463]
As a new player ive enjoyed reading what the older (time in game age wise) players have to say ive learned alot about this game just from reading these forums. I hope this new version or expansion will provide more enjoyment and some needed relaxation to all the frustrated players. flysafe to all. and keep teaching us newer players ty. SteveV
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:04:00 -
[464]
Originally by: Broomide The features to dress up your char. Hey wel If you dont like the option to change into New clothes. Dont !! And just move along playing eve like you always did.
Im exited where this is taking eve. And since if first logged on I wanted to see and walk around in the station. It will give eve new perspective.
Go CCP
Just because you like to dress/undress excessorize dolls doesn't mean that everyone wants to. Seriously what is so cool about putting different cloths on your character? If you wanted to walk around a station play a first person shooter.
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teklordkaos
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:06:00 -
[465]
Originally by: Tara Nighthawk it was suggested elsewhere that the new Captain's Quarters were only available for Minmatar. Admittedly they have crap-looking ships so this might be fair...
Excuse you?!?! If our ships are crap, why is the Rifter, Thrasher, and Hurricane so very much in demand? Gallante pilots rely on drones too much, which obviously leads to brain damage.
In Rust We Trust is not just a marketing slogan, it is a stealth feature because no one would ever expect that flying assortment to actually have weapons to shred them with.
And, our stations have no annoying muzak, are not colored so that you go blind, and when you undock, you are not shat out the ass end of it.
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DeMoraatz
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:06:00 -
[466]
Can I be a dragqueen now too?
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Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:06:00 -
[467]
Status unknown so maybe they are bouncing the box and we are actually close?? I can hope can't I?
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:06:00 -
[468]
Originally by: teklordkaos
Originally by: Tara Nighthawk it was suggested elsewhere that the new Captain's Quarters were only available for Minmatar. Admittedly they have crap-looking ships so this might be fair...
Excuse you?!?! If our ships are crap, why is the Rifter, Thrasher, and Hurricane so very much in demand? Gallante pilots rely on drones too much, which obviously leads to brain damage.
In Rust We Trust is not just a marketing slogan, it is a stealth feature because no one would ever expect that flying assortment to actually have weapons to shred them with.
And, our stations have no annoying muzak, are not colored so that you go blind, and when you undock, you are not shat out the ass end of it.
You forgot to mention the best of all.... The Vagabond.
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:07:00 -
[469]
Oh and just fyi the first post in this thread still says the game will be up at 19:00...at least TRY to hide your failure CCP.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:08:00 -
[470]
Anyone actually been able to patch yet? ---
"PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:08:00 -
[471]
Originally by: JC Anderson
I was thinking that it could possibly be driver issues as well. I was actually going to be reformatting/reinstalling everything on one of the newer PC's this week already. Going to try testing performance again at that point.
You hear a lot of people with newer hardware complain about the performance of Incarna when it was on Duality and SiSi. Most of the reasons I could think of are all driver related... But unsure.
True enough... Making the existing drivers compatible with DX10/D3D10 and then almost immediately DX11/D3D11, they might be struggling to keep up and performance could be hurting, but we're almost 2 years into DX/D3D11 now so I would think they'd have that figured out... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Gunner
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:10:00 -
[472]
For the last time, Eve patches and expansions are NOT free!
Eve monthly subscription rate Ç 14.95 WoW monthly subscription rate Ç 12.99
You pay Ç 1.96 per month for your patches and expansions.
*** 2007.10.06 R.I.P. Hatuk my friend.
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Stevevaughn Renalard
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:10:00 -
[473]
Originally by: Pixx Harmon Status unknown so maybe they are bouncing the box and we are actually close?? I can hope can't I?
Hope never is a bad thing. and for those who say dressing up is wierd or fantasy um....we are all in a game where we fly battleships or warships in space... thats kinda living in a fantasy no?
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:10:00 -
[474]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Independent of you asking for it, you agreed to it. Section 10, topic D, subsection iii of your EULA you agreed to in order to play the game.
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
And to you I would like to point out the earlier mentioned entry in combination with section 12, paragraph 3. Yes you have paid for play time, but obviously written in the EULA it indicates that th eservice is available most of the time and states that it will not always be available. If you feel you are not getting your money's worth you are free to stop playing. People really need to understand what they agree to and stop whining.
So when your boss tells you that he "expects" you to finish a project by a certain deadline and you don't what usually happens? When a construction project is expected to finish by a certain date and doesn't what happens? When you are expected to show up in court for not paying your child support and you don't show up what happens? (I know you have issues with this). There are consequences when you fail to meet expectations. Please tell me what is the result of failed expectations with this game?
+1 Sound argument... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
recoil serenity
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:12:00 -
[475]
has anyone been able to download the patch ??
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Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:12:00 -
[476]
Originally by: Stevevaughn Renalard
Originally by: Pixx Harmon Status unknown so maybe they are bouncing the box and we are actually close?? I can hope can't I?
Hope never is a bad thing. and for those who say dressing up is wierd or fantasy um....we are all in a game where we fly battleships or warships in space... thats kinda living in a fantasy no?
Actually it's the aliens... we think we're playing a game but we are actually running their economy
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12 manbrawl Ormand
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:13:00 -
[477]
Edited by: 12 manbrawl Ormand on 21/06/2011 20:14:15 Gunner, for the last time, you agreed to it in the EULA. Like Drund said. Now stop complaining about pocket change.
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Norbert Hauler
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:15:00 -
[478]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Tony Star
Originally by: Pyrus Octavius
You get a FREE expansion, and it's taking a little longer than expected, and you want refund of lost game time? Fo' real? That's pretty fail logic.
AH Hmm - I don't recall asking for this (or wanting it either)
Independent of you asking for it, you agreed to it. Section 10, topic D, subsection iii of your EULA you agreed to in order to play the game.
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
But I didn't want to buy this expansion. I liked the game the way it was.... Futhermore, we pay a monthly subscription so this patch isn't free. We must continue to subscribe, whereas other games where I can buy the disk and choose to purchase expansions I want or don't want.
And it is actually pretty logical. I am paying for play time. Due to CCP failure we are unable to play for a period of time that we paid for. In the real world if I give you money and you don't deliver a satisfactory good or service you refund the money. Please explain to me why that shouldn't apply to CCP?
And to you I would like to point out the earlier mentioned entry in combination with section 12, paragraph 3. Yes you have paid for play time, but obviously written in the EULA it indicates that th eservice is available most of the time and states that it will not always be available. If you feel you are not getting your money's worth you are free to stop playing. People really need to understand what they agree to and stop whining.
So when your boss tells you that he "expects" you to finish a project by a certain deadline and you don't what usually happens? When a construction project is expected to finish by a certain date and doesn't what happens? When you are expected to show up in court for not paying your child support and you don't show up what happens? (I know you have issues with this). There are consequences when you fail to meet expectations. Please tell me what is the result of failed expectations with this game?
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:16:00 -
[479]
Is the client end patch available anywhere whilst we wait for the service to come back up?
B
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Broomide
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:18:00 -
[480]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: Broomide The features to dress up your char. Hey wel If you dont like the option to change into New clothes. Dont !! And just move along playing eve like you always did.
Im exited where this is taking eve. And since if first logged on I wanted to see and walk around in the station. It will give eve new perspective.
Go CCP
Just because you like to dress/undress excessorize dolls doesn't mean that everyone wants to. Seriously what is so cool about putting different cloths on your character? If you wanted to walk around a station play a first person shooter.
Indeed its called an opinion, I like it, you dont,.,. then you dont do it. Am i right ?
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Cletus Tazinas
Amarr LCN Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:19:00 -
[481]
Yet? It's only space, after all... what could possibly happen? |
Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:20:00 -
[482]
Originally by: Ballistix Is the client end patch available anywhere whilst we wait for the service to come back up?
B
Negative... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:20:00 -
[483]
Originally by: 12 manbrawl Ormand Edited by: 12 manbrawl Ormand on 21/06/2011 20:14:15 Gunner, for the last time, you agreed to it in the EULA. Like Drund said. Now stop complaining about pocket change.
The complaints are because CCP does patches like McDonald's does their drive through. You wait longer then you should, you have people getting special orders instead of going inside and when you finally get there you order a number four with a coke and you end up with a number three with a diet coke... But you've experienced this pretty much every time you've used the drive through and yet still complain...
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wraith wrevenger
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:20:00 -
[484]
Originally by: JC Anderson JC Anderson on 21/06/2011 19:20:27
You posted a list of Gregorian Chants on youtube..
You missed one that I like to listen to while watching ships explode..
Depeche Mode - Blasphemous Rumors - Gregorian mode
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:21:00 -
[485]
Originally by: Broomide
Indeed its called an opinion, I like it, you dont,.,. then you dont do it. Am i right ?
Hmm...so is sitting here waiting for your accessories to work optional too?
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:22:00 -
[486]
Originally by: Pixx Harmon
Originally by: 12 manbrawl Ormand Edited by: 12 manbrawl Ormand on 21/06/2011 20:14:15 Gunner, for the last time, you agreed to it in the EULA. Like Drund said. Now stop complaining about pocket change.
The complaints are because CCP does patches like McDonald's does their drive through. You wait longer then you should, you have people getting special orders instead of going inside and when you finally get there you order a number four with a coke and you end up with a number three with a diet coke... But you've experienced this pretty much every time you've used the drive through and yet still complain...
Oh, I like you... +1 for witty metaphorical comeback... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:23:00 -
[487]
Originally by: wraith wrevenger
Originally by: JC Anderson JC Anderson on 21/06/2011 19:20:27
You posted a list of Gregorian Chants on youtube..
You missed one that I like to listen to while watching ships explode..
Depeche Mode - Blasphemous Rumors - Gregorian mode
Awesome hadn't heard this one before. Thanks.
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Stoffer2
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:23:00 -
[488]
Edited by: Stoffer2 on 21/06/2011 20:23:59 hi guys whats the time difference between utc and cet at the moment? summertime considered and all that ?
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DRberghaus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:24:00 -
[489]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: Broomide
Indeed its called an opinion, I like it, you dont,.,. then you dont do it. Am i right ?
Hmm...so is sitting here waiting for your accessories to work optional too?
Well if you take it that way... I suppose you can "do other stuff" besides waiting. Then it makes it more of a choice, doesnt it. Stay here and wait,, or do other stuff.
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ISKSUCKER
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:25:00 -
[490]
here¦s my 50 cents. I stopped playing the Sims too long ago and that was because it was getting booooooring. Now that i thought that i found an explendid game you guys come with a dolls house!!! For gods sake at least keep this...thing for the one's that want it and not as an imposed thing. As a guy i never had the will to play with dolls and i don¦t want to start now. Just give a chance to the game before is too late. Make low-sec a bit easier instead of taking all the good things to there or some day you¦ll find out that you have less than half the people paying for the game. I¦m not against the patch. I just think that should be for the people that really want it.
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:25:00 -
[491]
Originally by: Stoffer2 Edited by: Stoffer2 on 21/06/2011 20:23:59 hi guys whats the time difference between utc and cet at the moment? summertime considered and all that ?
Add two hours to UTC and you have CET ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Inara Chaise
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:26:00 -
[492]
Originally by: Stoffer2 Edited by: Stoffer2 on 21/06/2011 20:23:59 hi guys whats the time difference between utc and cet at the moment? summertime considered and all that ?
You're basically looking at another hour if im right. Correct me if im wrong of course.
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LorenzoEDGE
Gallente Titan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:26:00 -
[493]
downtime extended to 23:30 UTC
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Matt Shating
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 -
[494]
Of course we'll get aour accounts credited with an extra days game time for the inconvenience.....won't we?
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Badjor
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 -
[495]
Originally by: ISKSUCKER here¦s my 50 cents. I stopped playing the Sims too long ago and that was because it was getting booooooring. Now that i thought that i found an explendid game you guys come with a dolls house!!! For gods sake at least keep this...thing for the one's that want it and not as an imposed thing. As a guy i never had the will to play with dolls and i don¦t want to start now. Just give a chance to the game before is too late. Make low-sec a bit easier instead of taking all the good things to there or some day you¦ll find out that you have less than half the people paying for the game. I¦m not against the patch. I just think that should be for the people that really want it.
You can turn station environment off
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BigSticky Nuggets
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 -
[496]
I don't know what you are all complaining about, this is awesome I always thought to myself you know Eve is great...but how can we get it to be more like second life....Well incarna to the rescue! I can't wait I wanna be a vampire!
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wraith wrevenger
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 -
[497]
Originally by: JC Anderson You forgot to mention the best of all.... The Vagabond.
I don't build that particular ship, yet.
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Ellenik
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 -
[498]
Originally by: LorenzoEDGE downtime extended to 23:30 UTC
Nooooooooooo! Thats 3 hours then...
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:31:00 -
[499]
Originally by: LorenzoEDGE downtime extended to 23:30 UTC
Still says 21:30 at http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Poultergoose4
Supercarrier Aggression Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:31:00 -
[500]
Edited by: Poultergoose4 on 21/06/2011 20:31:28 DT is extending faster than time is passing, its never going to end :(
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iWhoopU
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:31:00 -
[501]
Edited by: iWhoopU on 21/06/2011 20:31:34 ever...
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Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 -
[502]
Originally by: LorenzoEDGE downtime extended to 23:30 UTC
douchebags...
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inharm sway
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 -
[503]
For those of you that use a non-eve clock, here is a link to use to find out the time for your area: UTC to local time
Subject to repeated change.
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Termination
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 -
[504]
Originally by: LorenzoEDGE downtime extended to 23:30 UTC
**** why is it taking so long??
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 -
[505]
Originally by: BigSticky Nuggets I don't know what you are all complaining about, this is awesome I always thought to myself you know Eve is great...but how can we get it to be more like second life....Well incarna to the rescue! I can't wait I wanna be a vampire!
+1 for playing Second Life, -1 for being a vampire... How trendy of you... *shakes her head* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
teklordkaos
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 -
[506]
Originally by: wraith wrevenger
Originally by: JC Anderson You forgot to mention the best of all.... The Vagabond.
I don't build that particular ship, yet.
Actually wraith, you don't build anything. I build ships, you destroy them. Please check your sec status next time you are online.
For the lost people, yes, I forgot to check to see which character was posting the reply, oh well, now the EvE universe knows who wraith really is.
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Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:35:00 -
[507]
Originally by: LorenzoEDGE downtime extended to 23:30 UTC
douchebags...
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Ma Chan
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:35:00 -
[508]
yeah thanks a lot ccp if its going up at 2330 thats an 18 hour dt, i understand the immense task you guys have set yourself with incarna, but please for the love of god be a bit quicker ^^
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Raze Crandraven
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 -
[509]
im gonna start watching the bsg again! :) music for everyone: soundcloud/stekmusic enjoy :) |
Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 -
[510]
DT is NOT extended to 23:30, according to: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
As you can see the status has not changed from the last update, it's still 21:30 UTC... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
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Tony Star
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 -
[511]
Originally by: Termination
Originally by: LorenzoEDGE downtime extended to 23:30 UTC
I take on board that this is a major upgrade, there is a lot to be done
However
FOR ANYONE EAST OF ICELAND THAT WILL BE AFTER MIDNIGHT.................
THAT IS A FULL DAY GONE
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:37:00 -
[512]
Originally by: DRberghaus
Originally by: DiscomBoBulateHmm...so is sitting here waiting for your accessories to work optional too?[/quote
Well if you take it that way... I suppose you can "do other stuff" besides waiting. Then it makes it more of a choice, doesnt it. Stay here and wait,, or do other stuff.
I'd like to play EVE, I'm paying for this time. we are approximately 15 hours past "normal" downtime, and nearly 5 hours past the original posted completion time. I don't think I'm being unreasonable questioning what is taking so long? Yet I am compelled to sit here and wait for something only a minority of eve players even care about.
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Ma Chan
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:38:00 -
[513]
Originally by: Estherenza DT is NOT extended to 23:30, according to: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
As you can see the status has not changed from the last update, it's still 21:30 UTC...
watch the dev incarna thread, theyre giving step by step updates and the last one was extension too 2330
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Kerppe Krulli
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:39:00 -
[514]
Edited by: Kerppe Krulli on 21/06/2011 20:39:19
Originally by: Ma Chan
Originally by: Estherenza DT is NOT extended to 23:30, according to: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
As you can see the status has not changed from the last update, it's still 21:30 UTC...
watch the dev incarna thread, theyre giving step by step updates and the last one was extension too 2330
weet, 2hrs 15 mins longer DT after the 21:30 DT and I'll win the pot!
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carrie Aulmais
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:40:00 -
[515]
for those of you who are moaning i would like to see you got in to there severs and install incarna single handed so why not give them a break and let them do there job in stead of moaning
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RHO SHA
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:40:00 -
[516]
from 17:00 to 23:30 ...oh im new in this game , this updates and extendend downtimes **** me on
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maczz
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:40:00 -
[517]
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4629&tid=1
EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
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TTPmaverick
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:40:00 -
[518]
now this is runing in to usa playing time GOOD about time they got a bit of pain
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C0SMIC GIRL
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:41:00 -
[519]
Originally by: Estherenza DT is NOT extended to 23:30, according to: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
As you can see the status has not changed from the last update, it's still 21:30 UTC...
Downtime HAS been extended to 23:30, if you look at the eve main site homepage you will see for yourself..... sorry for ****ing on your bonfire matey :)
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Soloura
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 -
[520]
I'm actually enjoying my release from CRACKonline :) + it gives me a chance to get caught up on my Differential Equation Homework @_@
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Mr Gharzul
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 -
[521]
Come on, CCP!!
A whole day has gone...the countdown was a total flaw...I had expected the Incarna release was timed with the countdown...A whole day...I guess it will be tomorrow afternoon I will be able to install Incarna...
At least you guys should have timed the countdown right...
Thank you for your patience...I have no patience after the third correction of time....more like frustration....
Thank you for your frustration :)
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NightShadow X
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 -
[522]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: DRberghaus
Originally by: DiscomBoBulateHmm...so is sitting here waiting for your accessories to work optional too?[/quote
Well if you take it that way... I suppose you can "do other stuff" besides waiting. Then it makes it more of a choice, doesnt it. Stay here and wait,, or do other stuff.
I'd like to play EVE, I'm paying for this time. we are approximately 15 hours past "normal" downtime, and nearly 5 hours past the original posted completion time. I don't think I'm being unreasonable questioning what is taking so long? Yet I am compelled to sit here and wait for something only a minority of eve players even care about.
Hey... I have an idea then...why don't we all just get forced to pay for the 15 FREE expansions that EVE has provided over the years...I think a lost day doesnt add up to the 30-40 bucks games like Warcraft make you pay for theirs...
Just sayin...but I like the free aspect of it all...it shows commitment, not to mention don't you think that they would all love to go home and rest like the rest of the business world instead of working solid?
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:43:00 -
[523]
Originally by: Ma Chan
Originally by: Estherenza DT is NOT extended to 23:30, according to: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
As you can see the status has not changed from the last update, it's still 21:30 UTC...
watch the dev incarna thread, theyre giving step by step updates and the last one was extension too 2330
Link me to said thread, there are a lot of dev threads talking about incarna ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Reconnoitre
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:44:00 -
[524]
Edited by: Reconnoitre on 21/06/2011 20:45:11 23:30 UTC.. You are taking the **** big style.
For a patch that i really don't want to see. and i want to be able to disable.
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:45:00 -
[525]
Skillpoints PLEASE
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RHO SHA
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:46:00 -
[526]
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PeanutButter JellyTime22
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:46:00 -
[527]
What I'm surprised about is that CCP hasn't learned from previous updates, I totally understand that database issues may cause the update to take longer but... this happens EVERY... SINGLE... TIME, why not just say the servers will be up at 2330 from the start and skip all the whining, if there's always database issues, it might be an idea to expect them and plan ahead, if the servers come up sooner than predicted, you'll look like champions
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Jonin Firetail
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:46:00 -
[528]
And this is why I set an 18 day skill queue. The hamsters always get overworked and start falling off their wheels for expansions. To all the people new to EVE. Welcome to CCP patch work.
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:46:00 -
[529]
Originally by: Kerppe Krulli Edited by: Kerppe Krulli on 21/06/2011 20:39:19
Originally by: Ma Chan
Originally by: Estherenza DT is NOT extended to 23:30, according to: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
As you can see the status has not changed from the last update, it's still 21:30 UTC...
watch the dev incarna thread, theyre giving step by step updates and the last one was extension too 2330
weet, 2hrs 15 mins longer DT after the 21:30 DT and I'll win the pot!
Wait, we're gambling for pot? I want some pot... My guess is 00:00 UCT... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Bai Guang
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 -
[530]
Originally by: NightShadow X
Just sayin...but I like the free aspect of it all...it shows commitment, not to mention don't you think that they would all love to go home and rest like the rest of the business world instead of working solid?
^This...
Give CCP a break, least they are releasing it. HTFU....
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 -
[531]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
So when your boss tells you that he "expects" you to finish a project by a certain deadline and you don't what usually happens? When a construction project is expected to finish by a certain date and doesn't what happens? When you are expected to show up in court for not paying your child support and you don't show up what happens? (I know you have issues with this). There are consequences when you fail to meet expectations. Please tell me what is the result of failed expectations with this game?
I'm sorry to inform you that these situations are not identical. Allow me to elaborate.
Firstly when a person becomes employed by a place of business often times they are the ones to have to sign the terms, not the employer. This is diametrically opposite of the client/service, since the receiver of the money has to do the signing. The employer has not signed a form that allows the provider of the work to change the deadline as they need. If the employee fails at meeting deadline it is within the employer's right to terminate employment, as you are free to stop paying CCP for their service.
When a construction company takes on a job they sign a contract setting a legally reinforced completion date. If it is not completed the company is dropped from the contract without being paid. Again here the receiver of the money is the primary signer of the agreement, with the hiring body signing merely to say the company will be paid upon completion.
As for your third example, since it both is a feeble attempt at a personal attack and not a cash for service situation, I do not feel obligated to explain it to you.
What we have with an EVE Online account has a very distinct difference with the above situations: You are both the one to sign the agreement and the one supplying money. If you do not like the results you are free to move on to a different game, as the boss would hire a new employee or the hiring body would hire a new construction company. What you have not seemed to grasp is that you do not have control of CCP at all. You are the one that agreed to their terms, not the other way around. As such, you can be as angry as you feel justified, but it will not make a single difference because you are bound to that agreement whether to read it or not. You scrolled to the bottom and clicked accept. Therefore, you can either accept the delay or move on to another game.
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Leggey89
Caldari A Big Enough Lever
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:48:00 -
[532]
Ah, love this game. Name: EVE ONline? Suggestion: EVE OFFline?
Anyway, to the DEVs etc, keep going, we appreciate that your working as hard as you can!
Maybe for future patches, accept that we really only want to mine, mission and blow other people up (primarily) and that it really is a waste of time trying to make the inside of stations look pretty. I know you need to work on something, I just wonder if there are other things out there that could use a little more attention?
Just as an aside, could you look at getting missiles to launch from the wings/missile launchers, rather than the cockpit?
Much love to you all for your hard work Leggey |
Walking Toster
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:48:00 -
[533]
Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Skillpoints PLEASE
and x2 drop!!! lol
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superNuts
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:49:00 -
[534]
Edited by: superNuts on 21/06/2011 20:51:41 http://www.eveonline.com/news.asphttp://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
for me it still says 21:30 anyone got that dev incarna link
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:49:00 -
[535]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Kerppe Krulli Edited by: Kerppe Krulli on 21/06/2011 20:39:19
Originally by: Ma Chan
Originally by: Estherenza DT is NOT extended to 23:30, according to: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
As you can see the status has not changed from the last update, it's still 21:30 UTC...
watch the dev incarna thread, theyre giving step by step updates and the last one was extension too 2330
weet, 2hrs 15 mins longer DT after the 21:30 DT and I'll win the pot!
Wait, we're gambling for pot? I want some pot... My guess is 00:00 UCT...
Yeah was a contest in general discussion thread. Giving away a bil isk for whoever is closest. But your too late because the person doing it closed it to any further entries once dt started.
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 -
[536]
Originally by: NightShadow X
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate I'd like to play EVE, I'm paying for this time. we are approximately 15 hours past "normal" downtime, and nearly 5 hours past the original posted completion time. I don't think I'm being unreasonable questioning what is taking so long? Yet I am compelled to sit here and wait for something only a minority of eve players even care about.
Hey... I have an idea then...why don't we all just get forced to pay for the 15 FREE expansions that EVE has provided over the years...I think a lost day doesnt add up to the 30-40 bucks games like Warcraft make you pay for theirs...
Just sayin...but I like the free aspect of it all...it shows commitment, not to mention don't you think that they would all love to go home and rest like the rest of the business world instead of working solid?
Ok, at $15 per month for eve in approximately 3 months you would have enough to buy a $50 new release game. So you would be buying a minimum of 3 new games a year, we have what 1 expansion a year?.....somehow that math doesn't seem to add up for me. How is this free again?
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ROAR Exodus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:51:00 -
[537]
timer
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:51:00 -
[538]
Originally by: superNuts http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
for me it still says 21:30
Its says 23:30 right on Eve main page. http://www.eveonline.com/
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Ivan Kapustin
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:52:00 -
[539]
Sorry, but
сделано по-русски, сначала говорим одно, а когда сроки растягиваются надеемся на понимание)))
Я с вами CPP...
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:52:00 -
[540]
Originally by: carrie Aulmais for those of you who are moaning i would like to see you got in to there severs and install incarna single handed so why not give them a break and let them do there job in stead of moaning
LOL, I'm pretty sure I'm capable of installing some coding from a command line... I wouldn't say I definitely can (depends on the coding and the command line UI ((I prefer less of a UI and more of just a command line))) but I believe myself to be more than capable of this, yes... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
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Merik Landerhow
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:52:00 -
[541]
65% delay? Sorry CCP but that's not the best way to show your skills. It's all most look like you don't know your own system.
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Zak Arranda
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:53:00 -
[542]
Originally by: Jonin Firetail And this is why I set an 18 day skill queue. The hamsters always get overworked and start falling off their wheels for expansions. To all the people new to EVE. Welcome to CCP patch work.
Amen to that. I learned from the previous expansion when the servers were down for nearly a full day. By the time we get back up, I'll have lost nothing, and more than likely they will have granted us a small SP bonus for the extra downtime. Win for us, Jonin. |
Bai Guang
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:54:00 -
[543]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Ok, at $15 per month for eve in approximately 3 months you would have enough to buy a $50 new release game. So you would be buying a minimum of 3 new games a year, we have what 1 expansion a year?.....somehow that math doesn't seem to add up for me. How is this free again?
Lets keep it apples to apples buddy. Take you $15/month and also apply that $50 purchase of the expansion as is the case with other _MMOs_, not just boxed software as your post would imply.
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superNuts
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:55:00 -
[544]
Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: superNuts http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
for me it still says 21:30
Its says 23:30 right on Eve main page. http://www.eveonline.com/
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gee wilikers! leaping lizards! holey rusted metal batman! im just gonna go drink beer
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RHO SHA
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:55:00 -
[545]
i guess i left 3days this month of extended downtimes and the hack attack ..did ccp dont like there users and do not payback the missed time? awesome strategie
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Reccemaster
Caldari Valkyries CIE
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:55:00 -
[546]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: NightShadow X
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate I'd like to play EVE, I'm paying for this time. we are approximately 15 hours past "normal" downtime, and nearly 5 hours past the original posted completion time. I don't think I'm being unreasonable questioning what is taking so long? Yet I am compelled to sit here and wait for something only a minority of eve players even care about.
Hey... I have an idea then...why don't we all just get forced to pay for the 15 FREE expansions that EVE has provided over the years...I think a lost day doesnt add up to the 30-40 bucks games like Warcraft make you pay for theirs...
Just sayin...but I like the free aspect of it all...it shows commitment, not to mention don't you think that they would all love to go home and rest like the rest of the business world instead of working solid?
Ok, at $15 per month for eve in approximately 3 months you would have enough to buy a $50 new release game. So you would be buying a minimum of 3 new games a year, we have what 1 expansion a year?.....somehow that math doesn't seem to add up for me. How is this free again?
I completely agree. If anyone thinks that we get ANYTHING for free... your an idiot. CCP are commercial. Eve is good value in my view, and they do somethings better than a lot of other developers... somethings are of course worse. I am however, under no illusion that my $15per month pays for the updates which allow CCP to continually develop the game to ensure retention of subscribers. If they couldn't do it for the $15 a month we pay - you really think they would? No. Nor do I. So that said. I pay for game time... so where is it. Yes... there is an update underway. But lets not get silly with the downtime. Having and extended DT to 23:30 is unacceptable. Refund or some Free kit plz CCP to the value of the time lost.
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:56:00 -
[547]
Originally by: superNuts
Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: superNuts http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
for me it still says 21:30
Its says 23:30 right on Eve main page. http://www.eveonline.com/
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gee wilikers! leaping lizards! holey rusted metal batman! im just gonna go drink beer
Likely the best idea I've heard today.
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:57:00 -
[548]
Edited by: DiscomBoBulate on 21/06/2011 21:06:52 Edited by: DiscomBoBulate on 21/06/2011 20:58:02
Originally by: Drund Thurison
If you do not like the results you are free to move on to a different game, as the boss would hire a new employee or the hiring body would hire a new construction company. What you have not seemed to grasp is that you do not have control of CCP at all. You are the one that agreed to their terms, not the other way around. As such, you can be as angry as you feel justified, but it will not make a single difference because you are bound to that agreement whether to read it or not. You scrolled to the bottom and clicked accept. Therefore, you can either accept the delay or move on to another game.
Ah ha, actually I do have control over CCP...let me introduce you to the power of the people. Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbbYbXS4zRM
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:57:00 -
[549]
Originally by: maczz http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4629&tid=1
EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
Ah, I see... I didn't click the link on the first news page, figured they'd update the front page over a link... weak... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Renard Voltaire
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:58:00 -
[550]
Originally by: Ivan Kapustin Sorry, but
сделано по-русски, сначала говорим одно, а когда сроки растягиваются надеемся на понимание)))
Я с вами CPP...
Did he just say "I love all you people of the world, my live is wonderful, and all is just so great, thank you"
How sweet of you!
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Vedanul
Caldari Thug's Squad
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:00:00 -
[551]
Hey people, WE will install Incarna 1.0 21 June 2011 starting at 11.00, it will take 5 days to install. ... 12 hours later: WE worked so hard for you guys and we installed Incarna 1.0 in 10 hours, and we took a 2 hours coffee break ...you can now log in and play Eve ...
....A smart story from Vedanul
[url=http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=681663][/url]
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Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:02:00 -
[552]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: maczz http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4629&tid=1
EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
Ah, I see... I didn't click the link on the first news page, figured they'd update the front page over a link... weak...
I'm not defending or bashing CCP but let's be honest if you had the same percentage of hit or miss in your job you'd be looking for work. The only reason they can do it is because we, as players, have no where else to go...
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NightShadow X
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:02:00 -
[553]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: NightShadow X
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate I'd like to play EVE, I'm paying for this time. we are approximately 15 hours past "normal" downtime, and nearly 5 hours past the original posted completion time. I don't think I'm being unreasonable questioning what is taking so long? Yet I am compelled to sit here and wait for something only a minority of eve players even care about.
Hey... I have an idea then...why don't we all just get forced to pay for the 15 FREE expansions that EVE has provided over the years...I think a lost day doesnt add up to the 30-40 bucks games like Warcraft make you pay for theirs...
Just sayin...but I like the free aspect of it all...it shows commitment, not to mention don't you think that they would all love to go home and rest like the rest of the business world instead of working solid?
Ok, at $15 per month for eve in approximately 3 months you would have enough to buy a $50 new release game. So you would be buying a minimum of 3 new games a year, we have what 1 expansion a year?.....somehow that math doesn't seem to add up for me. How is this free again?
Well, Im paying 11 for starters, nad EVERY MMO game has issues at times = downtime. These EVE updates are FREE as we do not pay for them...and even in your scenario at 15 bucks a month with a full day of lost time... you are out a whopping 50 cents....and again using your scenario, buying a 50 dollar game at a financial loss rate of 50 cents per day...it would take you 8.3 years to save up for that...have fun man!
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Isus Jarode
Gallente Sons of Ivaldi Zero Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:02:00 -
[554]
I hate to jump on the moaning bandwagon, but six and a half hours over the planned downtime is pretty bad, especially when said downtime was already ten hours anyhow. That's definitely a whole day of potential gameplay.
Don't get me wrong - I'd never quit the game outright over this, or bring up the tired argument of that "I'm paying for this," because we ALL are, including CCP - who is probably paying some serious overtime right now to their programmers. All I'm saying is that this delay is a serious hindrance to my customer service, and as much as I know that CCP is aware of it, I really do hope that they try to learn from this again and give us some sort of grievance - something small, even a simple apology in writing, because this is just ridiculous.
That said, I'll be happy when the actual update is complete, and while I'm not looking forward to the inevitable glitches and problems that always follow patches and major updates, it'll be nice to move on and get back to New Eden.
But come on CCP - let's keep up the pace and get this thing FINISHED.
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 -
[555]
Originally by: Renard Voltaire
Originally by: Ivan Kapustin Sorry, but
сделано по-русски, сначала говорим одно, а когда сроки растягиваются надеемся на понимание)))
Я с вами CPP...
Did he just say "I love all you people of the world, my live is wonderful, and all is just so great, thank you"
How sweet of you!
google says he said
Quote: done in Russian, at first saying one thing, but when time stretches hope for understanding)))
I am with you CPP ...
so I guess you're right, he loves everyone
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DRberghaus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 -
[556]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: NightShadow X
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate I'd like to play EVE, I'm paying for this time. we are approximately 15 hours past "normal" downtime, and nearly 5 hours past the original posted completion time. I don't think I'm being unreasonable questioning what is taking so long? Yet I am compelled to sit here and wait for something only a minority of eve players even care about.
Hey... I have an idea then...why don't we all just get forced to pay for the 15 FREE expansions that EVE has provided over the years...I think a lost day doesnt add up to the 30-40 bucks games like Warcraft make you pay for theirs...
Just sayin...but I like the free aspect of it all...it shows commitment, not to mention don't you think that they would all love to go home and rest like the rest of the business world instead of working solid?
doh, u pay monthly for the servers, and the smolaggy (sometimes smooth sometimes laggy) game play.
Ok, at $15 per month for eve in approximately 3 months you would have enough to buy a $50 new release game. So you would be buying a minimum of 3 new games a year, we have what 1 expansion a year?.....somehow that math doesn't seem to add up for me. How is this free again?
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Splatacus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:07:00 -
[557]
There is - of course- the nagging suspicion that EVE has gone too big and too complex for CCP. Maybe a lot of spaghetti code was written fast and furiously in Iceland and it now bites them in the backside.
I don't really mind - I like the slightly unpolished way CCP does things and heck, I now get some RL work done at least. But strategically it may be a good idea to think about selling the company to someone who can take care of these boring housecleaning things or useless eye candy patches and free the devs to actually build fun content.
Considering that DUST is released only on Playstation only, I would predict that Sony puts in an offer. They lack a solid MMORPG, have the market reach and - other than the recent snafus - have a solid reputation as a game company. Just saying. Anything would be better than Blizzard / Activision...
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Lilly Gonzales
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:07:00 -
[558]
Originally by: DRberghaus
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: NightShadow X
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate I'd like to play EVE, I'm paying for this time. we are approximately 15 hours past "normal" downtime, and nearly 5 hours past the original posted completion time. I don't think I'm being unreasonable questioning what is taking so long? Yet I am compelled to sit here and wait for something only a minority of eve players even care about.
Hey... I have an idea then...why don't we all just get forced to pay for the 15 FREE expansions that EVE has provided over the years...I think a lost day doesnt add up to the 30-40 bucks games like Warcraft make you pay for theirs...
Just sayin...but I like the free aspect of it all...it shows commitment, not to mention don't you think that they would all love to go home and rest like the rest of the business world instead of working solid?
entweder gleich von anfang an sagen, das das server update lSnger dauert, oder nicht, einfach immer diese updates verlSngern, finde ich ziemlich ÷de, fnr was zahlen wir alle, fnr updates???????????
doh, u pay monthly for the servers, and the smolaggy (sometimes smooth sometimes laggy) game play.
Ok, at $15 per month for eve in approximately 3 months you would have enough to buy a $50 new release game. So you would be buying a minimum of 3 new games a year, we have what 1 expansion a year?.....somehow that math doesn't seem to add up for me. How is this free again?
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Mr Gharzul
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:07:00 -
[559]
In a couple of hours it is not 21st of June here anymore...so hmmmm Incarna is coming 21st of June...well that is why I guess it is coming...it is still on its way...the journey began 21st of June...it will probably be here by tomorrow... :P
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Soloura
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:08:00 -
[560]
I hope CCP extends maintenance for another 8 hours!!! >=D
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:09:00 -
[561]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
So when your boss tells you that he "expects" you to finish a project by a certain deadline and you don't what usually happens? When a construction project is expected to finish by a certain date and doesn't what happens? When you are expected to show up in court for not paying your child support and you don't show up what happens? (I know you have issues with this). There are consequences when you fail to meet expectations. Please tell me what is the result of failed expectations with this game?
I'm sorry to inform you that these situations are not identical. Allow me to elaborate.
Firstly when a person becomes employed by a place of business often times they are the ones to have to sign the terms, not the employer. This is diametrically opposite of the client/service, since the receiver of the money has to do the signing. The employer has not signed a form that allows the provider of the work to change the deadline as they need. If the employee fails at meeting deadline it is within the employer's right to terminate employment, as you are free to stop paying CCP for their service.
When a construction company takes on a job they sign a contract setting a legally reinforced completion date. If it is not completed the company is dropped from the contract without being paid. Again here the receiver of the money is the primary signer of the agreement, with the hiring body signing merely to say the company will be paid upon completion.
As for your third example, since it both is a feeble attempt at a personal attack and not a cash for service situation, I do not feel obligated to explain it to you.
What we have with an EVE Online account has a very distinct difference with the above situations: You are both the one to sign the agreement and the one supplying money. If you do not like the results you are free to move on to a different game, as the boss would hire a new employee or the hiring body would hire a new construction company. What you have not seemed to grasp is that you do not have control of CCP at all. You are the one that agreed to their terms, not the other way around. As such, you can be as angry as you feel justified, but it will not make a single difference because you are bound to that agreement whether to read it or not. You scrolled to the bottom and clicked accept. Therefore, you can either accept the delay or move on to another game.
+1 because this a well thought out argument, and every word of it is true... -1 because this is part f what is wrong with the free market economy, corporations are no longer held accountable for shoddy craftsmanship, failed deadlines and poor customer service because now we have no choice, it's either their way or you can get your skittles somewhere else...
CCP can help change the world for the better if they hold themselves accountable over giving us the finger and telling us to shove off... Which they have have done neither in this case, it's just sucks that they're having a hard time and everyone is frustrated. But you still get the -1 for not wanting some kind of compensation and just accepting that because it's in your EULA that "That's just the way it is..."
Companies should respect their customer and be willing to provide some compensation for a full day of downtime, no matter how small it is just so that we know that they have a respect for us and want us to continue to playing Eve and not move to Vendetta, because in the end, WE'RE paying THEIR paychecks and they AREN'T paying MY or YOUR paychecks, right...? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 -
[562]
Originally by: Splatacus There is - of course- the nagging suspicion that EVE has gone too big and too complex for CCP. Maybe a lot of spaghetti code was written fast and furiously in Iceland and it now bites them in the backside.
the chief of the QC team of Eve was saying almost that during the alliance tournament on eve-TV, too big, impossible to test, unimaginable to take apart and remake, so they were running after the bugs
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jayhawk03
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 -
[563]
Edited by: jayhawk03 on 21/06/2011 21:14:14
guys u need to carm the f down they are basiclly redesigning the hole interface of eve to bring it up to standards your only moan about in the future
the never charge us to expansions do what can u guys wait a extra couple hours your only exploit moan about bugs and stuff if everythign waste right so just be patiant TRYIN TO FLY SAFE IS HARDER BY THE DAY BUT IF I KEEP TRYING ILL GET TO MY DESTNATION ONE DAY |
Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:11:00 -
[564]
Originally by: TTPmaverick now this is runing in to usa playing time GOOD about time they got a bit of pain
Whaaaaaaat? I'm in the USA and have been on Eve since '07, and I have suffered PLENTY, trust me... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Claude Moriarty
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:11:00 -
[565]
Originally by: Splatacus I would predict that Sony puts in an offer. They lack a solid MMORPG...
Thought they owned/published Everquest? Although whether or not Everquest is 'solid' is certainly up for discussion I guess...
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gutterbawl
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:11:00 -
[566]
Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: superNuts
Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: superNuts http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
for me it still says 21:30
Its says 23:30 right on Eve main page. http://www.eveonline.com/
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gee wilikers! leaping lizards! holey rusted metal batman! im just gonna go drink beer
Likely the best idea I've heard today.
beer hell, captain morgan and dr. pepper, that way by the time it does come back up, ill be too drunk too fly
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 -
[567]
Originally by: NightShadow X
Well, Im paying 11 for starters, nad EVERY MMO game has issues at times = downtime. These EVE updates are FREE as we do not pay for them...and even in your scenario at 15 bucks a month with a full day of lost time... you are out a whopping 50 cents....and again using your scenario, buying a 50 dollar game at a financial loss rate of 50 cents per day...it would take you 8.3 years to save up for that...have fun man!
You only forgot one thing...My time is billed out at $450 an hour, so 6 hours of my time when I would have been available to play their game and they were unable to comply with their end of the agreement that to me is $2700. That's alot of $50 dollar games :smug:
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 -
[568]
Edited by: Arithron on 21/06/2011 21:14:25 I love the tears of teenagers whining about X hours of DT for an expansion. If you calculated how many hours in total Eve is down for upgrades (which incidently make Eve a richer and better place to play in) I suspect you'd be out of pocket a few $. Big deal.
Eve is, IMO, an excellent game and well worth waiting the odd time for expansions to be deployed. I think this because they make the game better- think of the current expansion and what it is laying the groundworks for; a major improvement and leap forward which will eventually allow for a much richer game.
If you don't value these expansions and whine about losing a few cents- p*ss off and play something else, I don't want you playing Eve...although you still will, because you know its the best of its type out there.
Love and kisses, Ari Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Pixx Harmon
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 -
[569]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: TTPmaverick now this is runing in to usa playing time GOOD about time they got a bit of pain
Whaaaaaaat? I'm in the USA and have been on Eve since '07, and I have suffered PLENTY, trust me...
This has the feel of SWG and that worked out great :/
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clixor
Celluloid Gurus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 -
[570]
Originally by: jayhawk03 Edited by: jayhawk03 on 21/06/2011 21:10:32 guys u need to carm the f down they are basicll redesigning the how interface of eve to bring it up to standards your only moan about in the future
Most are not raging that they can't login, just about the incompetence of CCP.
They could be designing code for nuclear fission for all i care, you test it, and if it's not finished, don't deploy.
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 -
[571]
Originally by: C0SMIC GIRL
Originally by: Estherenza DT is NOT extended to 23:30, according to: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
"EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding."
As you can see the status has not changed from the last update, it's still 21:30 UTC...
Downtime HAS been extended to 23:30, if you look at the eve main site homepage you will see for yourself..... sorry for ****ing on your bonfire matey :)
I know, I've seen that now, there was a small white link on the news homepage I hadn't followed.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Claude Moriarty
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 -
[572]
Originally by: Kal'Tyra
Originally by: Splatacus There is - of course- the nagging suspicion that EVE has gone too big and too complex for CCP. Maybe a lot of spaghetti code was written fast and furiously in Iceland and it now bites them in the backside.
the chief of the QC team of Eve was saying almost that during the alliance tournament on eve-TV, too big, impossible to test, unimaginable to take apart and remake, so they were running after the bugs
I remember him saying that and thinking 'Really? You don't know your own game?'
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Jaeger Magnus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 -
[573]
Hey guys, well it looks like according to the frontpage that EVE is not supposed to be back up until 23:30 UTC. But if you click on the link for the same post it says that it will be back up at 21:30 UTC. Let's hope that its 21:30.
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Splatacus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:16:00 -
[574]
Originally by: Claude Moriarty
Originally by: Splatacus I would predict that Sony puts in an offer. They lack a solid MMORPG...
Thought they owned/published Everquest? Although whether or not Everquest is 'solid' is certainly up for discussion I guess...
My point. They had the market with Everquest and got wiped by WoW. That must hurt. If I was a Sony exec, I would not forget this...
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jayhawk03
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:16:00 -
[575]
EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC.
another 2 hours lol but sure its worth it just chillax TRYIN TO FLY SAFE IS HARDER BY THE DAY BUT IF I KEEP TRYING ILL GET TO MY DESTNATION ONE DAY |
Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:16:00 -
[576]
Originally by: superNuts Edited by: superNuts on 21/06/2011 20:51:41 http://www.eveonline.com/news.asphttp://www.eveonline.com/news.asp
for me it still says 21:30 anyone got that dev incarna link
Click the white link on the same page you posted... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:17:00 -
[577]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbbYbXS4zRM
power to the people!
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Scally Dog
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:17:00 -
[578]
Come on guys, give CCP a break.. Like Torfi said it's like changing an engine on a car while its doing 200 around a track - the biggest update EVE has ever seen since it's release and no matter how much they can try it on the test servers, Tranquility server is very different. If they get something wrong it could end up completely screwing things up and u might be waiting much longer than a few hours of extended downtime.
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Raze Crandraven
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:18:00 -
[579]
now its 23:30 utc music for everyone: soundcloud/stekmusic enjoy :) |
DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:33:00 -
[580]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbbYbXS4zRM
power to the people!
The Alliance Tournament is a prime example of how little control CCP has over their game. meta-gaming lol.
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Genoir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:35:00 -
[581]
Edited by: Genoir on 21/06/2011 21:35:24 Patch is up for DL. 739mb
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carrie Aulmais
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:37:00 -
[582]
ccp please in good faith give every one some arourom to spend on new items becauuse of the dt dotn let this be a compleate flaw for you, you were doing so well
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:38:00 -
[583]
Originally by: Scally Dog Come on guys, give CCP a break.. Like Torfi said it's like changing an engine on a car while its doing 200 around a track - the biggest update EVE has ever seen since it's release and no matter how much they can try it on the test servers, Tranquility server is very different. If they get something wrong it could end up completely screwing things up and u might be waiting much longer than a few hours of extended downtime.
Yes it is exactly like that....except the car is sitting still...and not running, and the person working on the engine is the person who designed and built the car. He supposedly has intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the motor...so yeah it's excatly like that execpt for those few things.
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:39:00 -
[584]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate Edited by: DiscomBoBulate on 21/06/2011 20:58:02
Ah ha, actually I do have control over CCP...let me introduce you to the power of the people. Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbbYbXS4zRM
When I first saw the link it didn't actually take me anywhere but I wanted to see your input so I manually entered it. If you really think trying to band everyone together to try to threaten CCP is going to work, good luck to you. I really mean that. However, here's why I don't believe it will work.
During this entire thread of people complaining both at the downtime and at each other, I've seen maybe 12 or people not just frustrated or annoyed but fully angered or enraged over the matter. Now I could be a fair bit off so in interest of simpler math as well as allowing for my own errors (as I do not wish to go through every page of this again) I'm bringing it up to 20, an extra 67% over what I figured. Now there are likely people that have read this thread that feel the same way but for whatever reason haven't posted. This could be that they feel the point has already been made or don't want people firing back at them or so on. Let's give a rough estimate of 50 people agreeing per person that posted.
So we've got a total of one thousand people ready to up and threaten CCP that they will take their money and move on. That's $15,000 a month lost revenue. Seems like a good hit at first.
CCP reported over 225,000 players in 2008.Source Data CCP also reported over 360,000 players in January of this year. Source Data
If we were to look at this as a roughly linear progression they are gaining 45,000 people a year. Your little 0.27% of the customer base that up and leaves will be replaced in 8 days.
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ISKSUCKER
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:40:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
So when your boss tells you that he "expects" you to finish a project by a certain deadline and you don't what usually happens? When a construction project is expected to finish by a certain date and doesn't what happens? When you are expected to show up in court for not paying your child support and you don't show up what happens? (I know you have issues with this). There are consequences when you fail to meet expectations. Please tell me what is the result of failed expectations with this game?
I'm sorry to inform you that these situations are not identical. Allow me to elaborate.
Firstly when a person becomes employed by a place of business often times they are the ones to have to sign the terms, not the employer. This is diametrically opposite of the client/service, since the receiver of the money has to do the signing. The employer has not signed a form that allows the provider of the work to change the deadline as they need. If the employee fails at meeting deadline it is within the employer's right to terminate employment, as you are free to stop paying CCP for their service.
When a construction company takes on a job they sign a contract setting a legally reinforced completion date. If it is not completed the company is dropped from the contract without being paid. Again here the receiver of the money is the primary signer of the agreement, with the hiring body signing merely to say the company will be paid upon completion.
As for your third example, since it both is a feeble attempt at a personal attack and not a cash for service situation, I do not feel obligated to explain it to you.
What we have with an EVE Online account has a very distinct difference with the above situations: You are both the one to sign the agreement and the one supplying money. If you do not like the results you are free to move on to a different game, as the boss would hire a new employee or the hiring body would hire a new construction company. What you have not seemed to grasp is that you do not have control of CCP at all. You are the one that agreed to their terms, not the other way around. As such, you can be as angry as you feel justified, but it will not make a single difference because you are bound to that agreement whether to read it or not. You scrolled to the bottom and clicked accept. Therefore, you can either accept the delay or move on to another game.
+1 because this a well thought out argument, and every word of it is true... -1 because this is part f what is wrong with the free market economy, corporations are no longer held accountable for shoddy craftsmanship, failed deadlines and poor customer service because now we have no choice, it's either their way or you can get your skittles somewhere else...
CCP can help change the world for the better if they hold themselves accountable over giving us the finger and telling us to shove off... Which they have have done neither in this case, it's just sucks that they're having a hard time and everyone is frustrated. But you still get the -1 for not wanting some kind of compensation and just accepting that because it's in your EULA that "That's just the way it is..."
Companies should respect their customer and be willing to provide some compensation for a full day of downtime, no matter how small it is just so that we know that they have a respect for us and want us to continue to playing Eve and not move to Vendetta, because in the end, WE'RE paying THEIR paychecks and they AREN'T paying MY or YOUR paychecks, right...?
I agree 100% with you
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:42:00 -
[586]
I'm downloading it right now!!! *PooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooP* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:42:00 -
[587]
Edited by: kingbilly on 21/06/2011 21:43:17 people are just crying cause they cant play the game they love simple really, would you rage if you didnt care.
Also i just watched the clips of dust on you tube and F**k me no wonder sony made it exclusive.
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:42:00 -
[588]
Originally by: Estherenza But you still get the -1 for not wanting some kind of compensation and just accepting that because it's in your EULA that "That's just the way it is..."
I'm not saying I'd turn down some form of compensation for the time. We all would appreciate it if CCP were to hand out some game time or skill points or whatever. The point I try to make is that demanding or threatening to leave is a fruitless endeavor.
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Genoa Erquilenne
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:43:00 -
[589]
Edited by: Genoa Erquilenne on 21/06/2011 21:43:20 Me too....downloading that is!
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:45:00 -
[590]
Originally by: kingbilly Edited by: kingbilly on 21/06/2011 21:43:17 people are just crying cause they cant play the game they love simple really, would you rage if you didnt care.
So true
Originally by: kingbilly Edited by: kingbilly on 21/06/2011 21:43:17 Also i just watched the clips of dust on you tube and F**k me no wonder sony made it exclusive.
that and the fact microsoft refuses xbox games to connect the interweb (plus free to play is not xbox friendly), too bad
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JT Black
Amarr ALPHA REACTION
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:47:00 -
[591]
GooD job again CCP staff in removing yet more features to make small corps PvP even harder.
Why ? I do not know.
EvE is currently a PvE orientated game with thousands of subscribers dependant on blobs to do PvP .
congrats CCP in making your game more alike WoW
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kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:47:00 -
[592]
Edited by: kingbilly on 21/06/2011 21:46:57
that and the fact microsoft refuses xbox games to connect the interweb (plus free to play is not xbox friendly), too bad
oops
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Tarinara
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:51:00 -
[593]
Originally by: clixor They could be designing code for nuclear fission for all i care <snip>
OK - now there's a damn scary thought if ever I saw one...
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:51:00 -
[594]
Quote:
Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc
are they being funny? :D
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Sashawn
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:52:00 -
[595]
The time to whine has come. This is not my style and I have other things to do so I will do them. I have heard it said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. CCP consistently misses deadlines and then post some "thank you for your understanding" post as the deadline they release makes the whooshing sound as it goes by.
Really you have the intelligence to program this awesome game but you continue to underestimate the amount it will take to install a major patch or release. The well of understanding has long since dried up. You act like you have harsh customers when the began to complain about a deadline that you set for yourself. Your client base is obviously fed up with your optimistic estimates of the time a patch will require.
A wise person once told me one of the three sources of upset is unfulfilled expectations, you set a deadline your clients plan their day around the commitment you made to them and then BOOM! Here comes the unfulfilled expectation. The deadline goes flying by and they are sitting there think great I could have went to a movie but I wanted to log into INCARNA the minute it came up.
I would like to suggest that you have patch day. Just announce that eve "could" be down an entire day,please plan accordingly. There the expectation is set and your clients will wander out of doors and reintroduce themselves to friends and family, maybe eat a hot meal or perhaps speak to someone who doesn't know what an incursion is.
It is CCP's responsibility to set and manage expectations. It is not their place to mock their clients (we know you do), or be bitter about the pronounced reaction to yet another missed deadline. Everyone who receives a paycheck from CCP should thank whatever god they pray to each day that Eve fans are as rabid and addicted to the game as they are, if they weren't 2 or 3 missed deadlines would result in noticeable declines in the subscriber base. There are very serious and noticeable flaws in the customer service that CCP provides, it wouldn't hurt to stop and look at how you interact with your subscriber base before some other gamin company does and steals your clients. CCP has set new standards and broke new ground repeatedly in the MMO arena, it would really be great if you made a commitment to making customer service the next place you set a new standard.
tl;dr Upset comes from unfulfilled expectations, CCP is the one setting these expecations. They continually set deadlines that are missed and it results in a bit of emo rage from within the community. CCP should set deadlines that they have a reasonable expectation of hitting.
Shawn
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Joan de Arc
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:52:00 -
[596]
Originally by: ISKSUCKER
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
So when your boss tells you that he "expects" you to finish a project by a certain deadline and you don't what usually happens? When a construction project is expected to finish by a certain date and doesn't what happens? When you are expected to show up in court for not paying your child support and you don't show up what happens? (I know you have issues with this). There are consequences when you fail to meet expectations. Please tell me what is the result of failed expectations with this game?
I'm sorry to inform you that these situations are not identical. Allow me to elaborate.
Firstly when a person becomes employed by a place of business often times they are the ones to have to sign the terms, not the employer. This is diametrically opposite of the client/service, since the receiver of the money has to do the signing. The employer has not signed a form that allows the provider of the work to change the deadline as they need. If the employee fails at meeting deadline it is within the employer's right to terminate employment, as you are free to stop paying CCP for their service.
When a construction company takes on a job they sign a contract setting a legally reinforced completion date. If it is not completed the company is dropped from the contract without being paid. Again here the receiver of the money is the primary signer of the agreement, with the hiring body signing merely to say the company will be paid upon completion.
As for your third example, since it both is a feeble attempt at a personal attack and not a cash for service situation, I do not feel obligated to explain it to you.
What we have with an EVE Online account has a very distinct difference with the above situations: You are both the one to sign the agreement and the one supplying money. If you do not like the results you are free to move on to a different game, as the boss would hire a new employee or the hiring body would hire a new construction company. What you have not seemed to grasp is that you do not have control of CCP at all. You are the one that agreed to their terms, not the other way around. As such, you can be as angry as you feel justified, but it will not make a single difference because you are bound to that agreement whether to read it or not. You scrolled to the bottom and clicked accept. Therefore, you can either accept the delay or move on to another game.
+1 because this a well thought out argument, and every word of it is true... -1 because this is part f what is wrong with the free market economy, corporations are no longer held accountable for shoddy craftsmanship, failed deadlines and poor customer service because now we have no choice, it's either their way or you can get your skittles somewhere else...
CCP can help change the world for the better if they hold themselves accountable over giving us the finger and telling us to shove off... Which they have have done neither in this case, it's just sucks that they're having a hard time and everyone is frustrated. But you still get the -1 for not wanting some kind of compensation and just accepting that because it's in your EULA that "That's just the way it is..."
Companies should respect their customer and be willing to provide some compensation for a full day of downtime, no matter how small it is just so that we know that they have a respect for us and want us to continue to playing Eve and not move to Vendetta, because in the end, WE'RE paying THEIR paychecks and they AREN'T paying MY or YOUR paychecks, right...?
I agree 100% with you
uhmm, you did sign to fully agree to anything what ccp does. ive read the terms of agreement a day, i was really bored during DT, and somewhere it does say that ccp is allowed to pospone an update indefinatly, and that u are not allowed to complaint about it or take any actions against it.
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Ikkeir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:52:00 -
[597]
Really like the new startscreen and the ship, all pew pew.
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:54:00 -
[598]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Estherenza But you still get the -1 for not wanting some kind of compensation and just accepting that because it's in your EULA that "That's just the way it is..."
I'm not saying I'd turn down some form of compensation for the time. We all would appreciate it if CCP were to hand out some game time or skill points or whatever. The point I try to make is that demanding or threatening to leave is a fruitless endeavor.
LOL, I never demanded anything... I'm a realist, CCP is a corporation, corporations exist to make money. To maximize their profits they need to accommodate as many people as possible in order to prevent losing clients and potential clients to emerging mmo's in the same genre...
I threaten nor demand nothing, I'm not doing anything to anyone, CCP is hurting themselves with a flawed business strategy by letting a large percentage of their client base get frustrated and build them up and make them wait for hours on end with EVERY update with little to no compensation in return...
On the other hand so many people will jump in-game and forget any of this thread ever happened and will care less how long they waited no matter how much they "threatened" or "demanded" compensation...
In the end, I'm merely pointing out poor business practice, especially poor business practice that runs rampant and unchecked in the corporate world and is slowly destroying the free market economy...
Just sayin'... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Jilly Serkov
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:55:00 -
[599]
Originally by: ISKSUCKER
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: Drund Thurison
I'm sorry to inform you that these situations are not identical. Allow me to elaborate.
Firstly when a person becomes employed by a place of business often times they are the ones to have to sign the terms, not the employer. This is diametrically opposite of the client/service, since the receiver of the money has to do the signing. The employer has not signed a form that allows the provider of the work to change the deadline as they need. If the employee fails at meeting deadline it is within the employer's right to terminate employment, as you are free to stop paying CCP for their service.
When a construction company takes on a job they sign a contract setting a legally reinforced completion date. If it is not completed the company is dropped from the contract without being paid. Again here the receiver of the money is the primary signer of the agreement, with the hiring body signing merely to say the company will be paid upon completion.
As for your third example, since it both is a feeble attempt at a personal attack and not a cash for service situation, I do not feel obligated to explain it to you.
What we have with an EVE Online account has a very distinct difference with the above situations: You are both the one to sign the agreement and the one supplying money. If you do not like the results you are free to move on to a different game, as the boss would hire a new employee or the hiring body would hire a new construction company. What you have not seemed to grasp is that you do not have control of CCP at all. You are the one that agreed to their terms, not the other way around. As such, you can be as angry as you feel justified, but it will not make a single difference because you are bound to that agreement whether to read it or not. You scrolled to the bottom and clicked accept. Therefore, you can either accept the delay or move on to another game.
+1 because this a well thought out argument, and every word of it is true... -1 because this is part f what is wrong with the free market economy, corporations are no longer held accountable for shoddy craftsmanship, failed deadlines and poor customer service because now we have no choice, it's either their way or you can get your skittles somewhere else...
CCP can help change the world for the better if they hold themselves accountable over giving us the finger and telling us to shove off... Which they have have done neither in this case, it's just sucks that they're having a hard time and everyone is frustrated. But you still get the -1 for not wanting some kind of compensation and just accepting that because it's in your EULA that "That's just the way it is..."
Companies should respect their customer and be willing to provide some compensation for a full day of downtime, no matter how small it is just so that we know that they have a respect for us and want us to continue to playing Eve and not move to Vendetta, because in the end, WE'RE paying THEIR paychecks and they AREN'T paying MY or YOUR paychecks, right...?
I agree 100% with you
Dear God I don't, "Waaah waaah where's my free stuff waaah waaah "
Damned compensation / litigation culture "disease" that has spread out from the USA in the last 20 or so years is a blight on humanity I detest. No, not for genuine or serious cases, I mean the trivial and pointless. Like the above. Drund's post +1000.
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:56:00 -
[600]
Edited by: Kal''Tyra on 21/06/2011 21:56:13 are we talking about the hot coffee vs McDo incident? again? :D :D
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:56:00 -
[601]
Edited by: Estherenza on 21/06/2011 21:59:21
Originally by: Vedanul Hey people, WE will install Incarna 1.0 21 June 2011 starting at 11.00, it will take 5 days to install. ... 12 hours later: WE worked so hard for you guys and we installed Incarna 1.0 in 10 hours, and we took a 2 hours coffee break ...you can now log in and play Eve ...
....A smart story from Vedanul
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:59:00 -
[602]
Edited by: Arithron on 21/06/2011 22:00:45 Free market economy...yeah, that works well doesn't it? How many billions to bail out all the failed banks, how many forclosures and how many unemployed caused by a lack of liquidity in markets does it take to show this system is fundementally flawed?
BTW, putting CCP into the same category as a corporate isn't logical- it's a company that exists because the consumers want something and pay it to make it, not a company that exists to make consumers want something...
BTW, downloading update as we speak :) Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Sewimx Auduin
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:59:00 -
[603]
HELOOOOOO, CCP.... Incarna Wallpapers?? :>
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Anonymity
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:00:00 -
[604]
Well I'm sure I'm going to get my head bitten off for this but for all those complaining that they don't want this update, well....you aint the only ones playing the game, I'm sure for other people there have been previous updates that you liked and they couldn't care less about.
Personally I like change, like it or not Eve doesn't pull in astounding subscription numbers, it's pretty good and has been sustainable for eight years odd now but it's still low considering it is the ONLY premium space MMO available and has been for eight years (F2P's like Black Prophecy don't count).
So trying to make the game appeal to a wider audience is a good thing.
More players = More money in CCP's pocket = More money to further develope Eve online.
Right now it's a niche game, for a niche market.
As for the update and downtime, I accept that Stackless Python config is a pain in the rear and that these updates are rarely simple, but as everyone has stated, if this happens everytime then you need to plan longer downtimes or find a different way of updating.
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wraith wrevenger
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:00:00 -
[605]
This issue about deploying a new expansion that takes longer than what was originally expected, CCP should adopt the policy Star trek's Commander Scott had for so many years. Quote a long time and if you come in before that, you are a "miracle worker." If not, no big deal.
As far as not knowing to put in to your skill queue a multi-day skill to train.. EvE's opening screen has had the date Icarna was coming and if you checked your computer's current date to see what day it was, exactly whose fault is it that you did not plan ahead?
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:02:00 -
[606]
Originally by: Sashawn I would like to suggest that you have patch day. Just announce that eve "could" be down an entire day,please plan accordingly. There the expectation is set and your clients will wander out of doors and reintroduce themselves to friends and family, maybe eat a hot meal or perhaps speak to someone who doesn't know what an incursion is.
This is a very valid idea and they should consider it. There would still be whining but there always is. Another way, though less advisable from a business standpoint, is to take an old engineering approach. When the supervisor asks how long a particular task is that he has no knowledge of, tell him it will take 3-4 times as long as it actually does. That way you're done ahead of schedule with available room in case things go wrong.
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Noxia Filmore
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:02:00 -
[607]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate Edited by: DiscomBoBulate on 21/06/2011 20:58:02
Ah ha, actually I do have control over CCP...let me introduce you to the power of the people. Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbbYbXS4zRM
When I first saw the link it didn't actually take me anywhere but I wanted to see your input so I manually entered it. If you really think trying to band everyone together to try to threaten CCP is going to work, good luck to you. I really mean that. However, here's why I don't believe it will work.
During this entire thread of people complaining both at the downtime and at each other, I've seen maybe 12 or people not just frustrated or annoyed but fully angered or enraged over the matter. Now I could be a fair bit off so in interest of simpler math as well as allowing for my own errors (as I do not wish to go through every page of this again) I'm bringing it up to 20, an extra 67% over what I figured. Now there are likely people that have read this thread that feel the same way but for whatever reason haven't posted. This could be that they feel the point has already been made or don't want people firing back at them or so on. Let's give a rough estimate of 50 people agreeing per person that posted.
So we've got a total of one thousand people ready to up and threaten CCP that they will take their money and move on. That's $15,000 a month lost revenue. Seems like a good hit at first.
CCP reported over 225,000 players in 2008.Source Data CCP also reported over 360,000 players in January of this year. Source Data
If we were to look at this as a roughly linear progression they are gaining 45,000 people a year. Your little 0.27% of the customer base that up and leaves will be replaced in 8 days.
not too be a stickler on your point, but, 100,000 people multiplied by $15 a month, is $1.5 million, not 15k
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Drund Thurison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:06:00 -
[608]
Originally by: Noxia Filmore
not too be a stickler on your point, but, 100,000 people multiplied by $15 a month, is $1.5 million, not 15k
20 people in forum multiplied by 50 people per person in forum is 1,000 people. 1,000 people times $15 per month is $15,000.
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Splatacus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:07:00 -
[609]
Originally by: Anonymity Well I'm sure I'm going to get my head bitten off for this but for all those complaining that they don't want this update, well....you aint the only ones playing the game, I'm sure for other people there have been previous updates that you liked and they couldn't care less about.
Personally I like change, like it or not Eve doesn't pull in astounding subscription numbers, it's pretty good and has been sustainable for eight years odd now but it's still low considering it is the ONLY premium space MMO available and has been for eight years (F2P's like Black Prophecy don't count).
So trying to make the game appeal to a wider audience is a good thing.
More players = More money in CCP's pocket = More money to further develope Eve online.
Right now it's a niche game, for a niche market.
As for the update and downtime, I accept that Stackless Python config is a pain in the rear and that these updates are rarely simple, but as everyone has stated, if this happens everytime then you need to plan longer downtimes or find a different way of updating.
That. A niche game for a niche market. Well said.
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LtCol Laurentius
Caldari Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:10:00 -
[610]
Hmmm.... Come to think of it. I think this is the first expansion i've experienced that wasnt preceded by an expansion trailer. And I've been playing since Revelations.
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:12:00 -
[611]
Edited by: Kal''Tyra on 21/06/2011 22:12:21
Originally by: Sewimx Auduin HELOOOOOO, CCP.... Incarna Wallpapers?? :>
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/691/incarnalol.png/
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kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:12:00 -
[612]
the graphics are one of the first things that made me buy the game ,got the free trail and almost instantly paid for a sub ,little did i know what a demon this game was to be for my spare time.
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:13:00 -
[613]
Stop posting and download update...sheesh! Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:15:00 -
[614]
Well the maller and lasors looks good if nothing else Love Simon xxx |
Jay Hadah
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:15:00 -
[615]
This is a very valid idea and they should consider it. There would still be whining but there always is. Another way, though less advisable from a business standpoint, is to take an old engineering approach. When the supervisor asks how long a particular task is that he has no knowledge of, tell him it will take 3-4 times as long as it actually does. That way you're done ahead of schedule with available room in case things go wrong.
THis is called the Scotty manuevre...in the original star trek Scotty always multiplied the time it would take to make repairs x4. When your late it's your fault when you complete the work early your a hero.
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kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:17:00 -
[616]
Originally by: Simon Pieman Well the maller and lasors looks good if nothing else
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:17:00 -
[617]
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Noxia Filmore
not too be a stickler on your point, but, 100,000 people multiplied by $15 a month, is $1.5 million, not 15k
20 people in forum multiplied by 50 people per person in forum is 1,000 people. 1,000 people times $15 per month is $15,000.
What you are forgetting is that there are only actually 1000 people that play EVE, all the rest of the characters are simply alts.
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:17:00 -
[618]
Originally by: kingbilly the graphics are one of the first things that made me buy the game ,got the free trail and almost instantly paid for a sub ,little did i know what a demon this game was to be for my spare time.
An Eve addiction is a beautiful thing (except during down time, then it's like trying to disarm a bomb with ravenous wolves trying to break through your front door to eat you, lol). I get my fix in T-Minus 2 minutes... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Zaltaz
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:19:00 -
[619]
well great...... I downloaded the update and now it failed to patch. Tried again. Failed again. Tried running repair.exe. Failed to repair
CCP!!!!!!!!
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:19:00 -
[620]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Noxia Filmore
not too be a stickler on your point, but, 100,000 people multiplied by $15 a month, is $1.5 million, not 15k
20 people in forum multiplied by 50 people per person in forum is 1,000 people. 1,000 people times $15 per month is $15,000.
What you are forgetting is that there are only actually 1000 people that play EVE, all the rest of the characters are simply alts.
+1 because it's true... I am the only person I know who has only one character on Eve... And I'm being for real... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
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Genoir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:20:00 -
[621]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: kingbilly the graphics are one of the first things that made me buy the game ,got the free trail and almost instantly paid for a sub ,little did i know what a demon this game was to be for my spare time.
An Eve addiction is a beautiful thing (except during down time, then it's like trying to disarm a bomb with ravenous wolves trying to break through your front door to eat you, lol). I get my fix in T-Minus 2 minutes...
I wouldn't bet on that fix, server not accepting connections.
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Simon Pieman
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:20:00 -
[622]
Ha ha ha ha ha you suck
Love Simon xxx |
Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:20:00 -
[623]
Hmm, seems the eve clock is out 2 mins... Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:20:00 -
[624]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Noxia Filmore
not too be a stickler on your point, but, 100,000 people multiplied by $15 a month, is $1.5 million, not 15k
20 people in forum multiplied by 50 people per person in forum is 1,000 people. 1,000 people times $15 per month is $15,000.
What you are forgetting is that there are only actually 1000 people that play EVE, all the rest of the characters are simply alts.
last time I logged on with a trial account : 23000 are online, 1451 of those are trial accounts...
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:22:00 -
[625]
Originally by: Zaltaz well great...... I downloaded the update and now it failed to patch. Tried again. Failed again. Tried running repair.exe. Failed to repair
CCP!!!!!!!!
I think you need to delete a CCP folder in your "Roaming" folder, but I'm not sure... Open a support ticket... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Thomas Newton
Caldari Starlight Operations Starlight Network
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:22:00 -
[626]
I love CCP, they really listen to bug reports. This bug was fixed but I only reported it 5 days ago:
Mining drones now return to the drone bay, if that option is selected, after completing their cycle. Previously they would return to the ship but remain outside in an idle state.
So if you see something and you're 99% sure it's a bug and it can be fixed CCP will listen to you.
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12 manbrawl Ormand
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:24:00 -
[627]
The sad thing is, since down time started I ordered a Netflix movie got it in the mail and watched it, and eve is still down. Get those hamsters working CCP!
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:24:00 -
[628]
Originally by: Genoir
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: kingbilly the graphics are one of the first things that made me buy the game ,got the free trail and almost instantly paid for a sub ,little did i know what a demon this game was to be for my spare time.
An Eve addiction is a beautiful thing (except during down time, then it's like trying to disarm a bomb with ravenous wolves trying to break through your front door to eat you, lol). I get my fix in T-Minus 2 minutes...
I wouldn't bet on that fix, server not accepting connections.
Oh no... Say it isn't so... no, NO, NNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!! *PoooooooooP* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
CRUTA OMEGA
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:26:00 -
[629]
I hoping CCP give us our time back and a few Skill points to spend.... Took a whole day off to play this and was given some wisdom. That in future take a day off after downtime. Its strange though because CCP is a business and I was wondering is downtime like a service level agreement (SLA), the customer being us? Food for thought.....?
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:26:00 -
[630]
why did they put an amarr ship on it....it's like begging this expansion to be a failure.
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Sasha Sallander
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:27:00 -
[631]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate
Originally by: Drund Thurison
Originally by: Noxia Filmore
not too be a stickler on your point, but, 100,000 people multiplied by $15 a month, is $1.5 million, not 15k
20 people in forum multiplied by 50 people per person in forum is 1,000 people. 1,000 people times $15 per month is $15,000.
What you are forgetting is that there are only actually 1000 people that play EVE, all the rest of the characters are simply alts.
+1 because it's true... I am the only person I know who has only one character on Eve... And I'm being for real...
1 account here whooo haaa
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Stella Aulmais
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:27:00 -
[632]
Originally by: wraith wrevenger This issue about deploying a new expansion that takes longer than what was originally expected, CCP should adopt the policy Star trek's Commander Scott had for so many years. Quote a long time and if you come in before that, you are a "miracle worker." If not, no big deal. ?
to be fair they did say it will be delivered on the 21 st so long as it dosent spread to the 22nd they will have kept there word
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:28:00 -
[633]
'Took the day off to play this'...I mean, WTF? Get out and enjoy life my friend, feel the sun on your palid skin... Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:28:00 -
[634]
Please bring the server back!!! quick... I'm watching a live performance on TV and a french singer is singing The Cure's "Boy's don't cry" with the Gipsy King, a group of ten spanish guitarist, live in belgium...
Quick!
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AkaiDruiD II
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:28:00 -
[635]
Originally by: Estherenza
Originally by: kingbilly the graphics are one of the first things that made me buy the game ,got the free trail and almost instantly paid for a sub ,little did i know what a demon this game was to be for my spare time.
An Eve addiction is a beautiful thing (except during down time, then it's like trying to disarm a bomb with ravenous wolves trying to break through your front door to eat you, lol). I get my fix in T-Minus 2 minutes...
LOL ~tick tick tick ;)
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Shandir
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:28:00 -
[636]
Edited by: Shandir on 21/06/2011 22:28:45 Downloading patch now.
Only 750mb? Strange. -
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Elite28
Caldari BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:29:00 -
[637]
I think the best way to go about this is to just to remove all bonuses and the ony thing left are different looking ships with the same capabilities. Also add running, jumping, dancing, and other cool emotes too. Also add mining mini games, really cool missions, and call of duty type game play inside stations. You guys would make a **** ton of money that way.
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:31:00 -
[638]
Originally by: Shandir Edited by: Shandir on 21/06/2011 22:28:45 Downloading patch now.
Only 750mb? Strange.
Remember 2 weeks ago, woaw!!! 500MB for ... nothing, yeah right
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wilkins1950
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:31:00 -
[639]
1 hour to go
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AkaiDruiD II
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:32:00 -
[640]
Originally by: Elite28 I think the best way to go about this is to just to remove all bonuses and the ony thing left are different looking ships with the same capabilities. Also add running, jumping, dancing, and other cool emotes too. Also add mining mini games, really cool missions, and call of duty type game play inside stations. You guys would make a **** ton of money that way.
++1 for CoD game play in station!!!
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ReV0h
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:35:00 -
[641]
Really?....still an hour to go? I AM teh Geordie...:) |
MrWiEbEL
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:36:00 -
[642]
Server status: Not accepting connections 11 players???!!!
What is this I wachted up to try this and now its NOT working comon!!!
A little bit sad now...
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kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:37:00 -
[643]
Originally by: MrWiEbEL Server status: Not accepting connections 11 players???!!!
What is this I wachted up to try this and now its NOT working comon!!!
A little bit sad now...
if its not up at 11.39 its bed time for me
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Adam Lost
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:39:00 -
[644]
Originally by: wilkins1950 1 hour to go
and another and another and another .... come on ccp
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carrie Aulmais
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:40:00 -
[645]
40 mins
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Rollaz
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:40:00 -
[646]
Everyone keeps saying they are downloading... is there a Chribba approved torrent out?
What am I missing?
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R3VOh
N-Type
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:40:00 -
[647]
ahh...says in time of post that it's only 22:39...but i'm in UK and it's 23:39......is UK not UTC +0?
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:42:00 -
[648]
Originally by: Rollaz Everyone keeps saying they are downloading... is there a Chribba approved torrent out?
What am I missing?
close and relaunch your client, the download will start, I didn't see a torrent yet
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Danger Es
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:42:00 -
[649]
Funny how we all predicted this. Missed expansion deadlines is notthing new to CCP.
I suggest as a new CCP business practice, they should multiply their initial downtime proposal by 2.5. That way they can avoid letting down all of their subscribers when they miss ANOTHER deadline.
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:42:00 -
[650]
Originally by: Rollaz Everyone keeps saying they are downloading... is there a Chribba approved torrent out?
What am I missing?
Try logging in...option to download new version pops up... Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
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Autistic Unicorn
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:43:00 -
[651]
Originally by: R3VOh ahh...says in time of post that it's only 22:39...but i'm in UK and it's 23:39......is UK not UTC +0?
If you remember we put our clocks forward 1hr for the summer, u know, that thing outside with all the rain in it
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Adam Lost
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:43:00 -
[652]
Originally by: R3VOh ahh...says in time of post that it's only 22:39...but i'm in UK and it's 23:39......is UK not UTC +0?
uk is +1 at the mo till the clocks go back
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Lord Khelben
Amarr Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:43:00 -
[653]
Originally by: Rollaz Everyone keeps saying they are downloading... is there a Chribba approved torrent out?
What am I missing?
Try restarting your client. I was able to download the patch normally. Cool new start up animation btw...
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:44:00 -
[654]
Edited by: Kal''Tyra on 21/06/2011 22:46:16 UK is using daylight saving, so UTC+1 during summer, UTC never changes
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R3VOh
N-Type
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:45:00 -
[655]
Oops :P
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wilkins1950
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:45:00 -
[656]
hi rollaz or you can use the link here to down load manually http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe
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Rollaz
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:45:00 -
[657]
Originally by: Kal'Tyra
Originally by: Rollaz Everyone keeps saying they are downloading... is there a Chribba approved torrent out?
What am I missing?
close and relaunch your client, the download will start, I didn't see a torrent yet
Thats for that, duh, too bad my connection is slow... gonna take me 1,5hrs :(((
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AkaiDruiD II
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:46:00 -
[658]
Originally by: R3VOh ahh...says in time of post that it's only 22:39...but i'm in UK and it's 23:39......is UK not UTC +0?
UTC
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Morrigan Hazama
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:46:00 -
[659]
Edited by: Morrigan Hazama on 21/06/2011 22:46:25 People crying about the long maintenance during an expansion makes me laugh. Most of you should know better, this happens every time and you act like it's the end of the world. *harvests your tears*
BTW the new login screen looks tight and so do the new lasers!
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Sundarbolt
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:46:00 -
[660]
Hey CCP
Just wanted to add my thoughts to such a terrible thread.
Thanks for the awesome universe you provide. I'm very much looking forward to trying this new build. Ignore these silly comments that seem to think they are somehow entitled to more than you already supply.
I have been playing online games and MMOs for around 15 years now and never has a development company impressed as you do. Not one.
So DT went into overtime? Everyone with half a brain had already accepted the possibility and prepared accordingly. As for the rest. Please do not compensate their infuriating, unjust and undeserved sense of entitlement. You will serve them better in the long run by helping them to learn.
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kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:47:00 -
[661]
Originally by: R3VOh Oops :P
please tell me you are american
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Vu1t
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:47:00 -
[662]
Will CCP add 1 extra day for free to everybody?
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Rollaz
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:47:00 -
[663]
Originally by: wilkins1950 hi rollaz or you can use the link here to down load manually http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe
How do you guys find these links, I'm always the last to see em.
Yo Wilk! :)
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The MightySword
Amarr Supra Tenetur
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:48:00 -
[664]
well hopefully ccp will get ther asses in gear and get it sorted
new patch dl'd and so far looking good on the ship redesign but not accepting connections WTF;;;
grrrr sot it out ccp i want to play before i go to bed
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Isus Jarode
Gallente Sons of Ivaldi Zero Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:48:00 -
[665]
Whenever I check on the status of the server and close EVE, the game drops a "snapshot.memory_dump" file onto my desktop. Anyone have an explanation for this?
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wilkins1950
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:49:00 -
[666]
they were in the first few pages of the forum
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kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:49:00 -
[667]
Originally by: Isus Jarode Whenever I check on the status of the server and close EVE, the game drops a "snapshot.memory_dump" file onto my desktop. Anyone have an explanation for this?
lulzsecurity probably
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R3VOh
N-Type
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:49:00 -
[668]
Originally by: kingbilly
Originally by: R3VOh Oops :P
please tell me you are american
unfortunately not :(
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Henry Ylen-julin
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:51:00 -
[669]
Originally by: Danger Es Funny how we all predicted this. Missed expansion deadlines is notthing new to CCP.
I suggest as a new CCP business practice, they should multiply their initial downtime proposal by 2.5. That way they can avoid letting down all of their subscribers when they miss ANOTHER deadline.
I was already not waiting it to launch at 21th at all Too predictible, and I'm just about a month and a half old EVE player. I'm with Danger Es, CCP should really multiply the amount they assume their expansions take time to come online. That way we'd be suprised IF they come earlier, Hate to see a thousand times them missing their deadlines and I have to check up on the server wether it's online or offline. A good way would be not to think they can make the expansions on the same day as release. Place a massive skill to training and play something else for the day so you won't be disapointed every time.
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:51:00 -
[670]
Originally by: Rollaz
Originally by: wilkins1950 hi rollaz or you can use the link here to down load manually http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe
How do you guys find these links, I'm always the last to see em.
Yo Wilk! :)
Rollaz, look at the left of your screen, EVE DOWNLOAD >> EVE Patches >> Tranquility
Or there http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp
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wilkins1950
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:51:00 -
[671]
Originally by: Isus Jarode Whenever I check on the status of the server and close EVE, the game drops a "snapshot.memory_dump" file onto my desktop. Anyone have an explanation for this?
could be just a bug see if it clears up after tq goes live if not petition it
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Mylock Miannapan
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 -
[672]
Well I'd like to say thank you CCP.
The longer it stays down, the more of the 18 day skill I'm going to get trained as I'll inevitably stop training it for something a little quicker when I do get back online.
Also, instead of wasting my time shooting Angels or mining Bistot, I have discovered the joys of Pink Floyd, Gregorian chant style, learnt a bit of what I had agreed to in the EULA and finally got my mum to go out and get me some cookies.
BTW Uk is currently on UTC+1 (BST)
I also have 18k of skill points left from the last giveaway if anyone wants 1k of them to make up for their loss.
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 -
[673]
Edited by: Arithron on 21/06/2011 22:53:25
Originally by: Vu1t Will CCP add 1 extra day for free to everybody?
Why should they? You agreed to an EULA that mentions downtime for fixes and expansions. Besides, you seriously telling me you play for 24 hrs, and thus are entitled to a free day because you haven't been able to login for 17 hrs or so?
Personally, if it was my company I'd trawl through forums like these, find customers that think they are entitled to skill points/free gametime etc when IMPROVEMENTS are made to the game, and ban hammer the lot of them. This would improve the game environment of Eve no end, and thus be a positive PR exercise for those gamers that realise that improvements benefit them. Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 -
[674]
Website will be returning shortly. Just going through some testing - eve twitter page
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Broomide
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:55:00 -
[675]
Originally by: Sundarbolt Hey CCP
Just wanted to add my thoughts to such a terrible thread.
Thanks for the awesome universe you provide. I'm very much looking forward to trying this new build. Ignore these silly comments that seem to think they are somehow entitled to more than you already supply.
I have been playing online games and MMOs for around 15 years now and never has a development company impressed as you do. Not one.
So DT went into overtime? Everyone with half a brain had already accepted the possibility and prepared accordingly. As for the rest. Please do not compensate their infuriating, unjust and undeserved sense of entitlement. You will serve them better in the long run by helping them to learn.
I totally agree !! gotta love the devs who are still working over there !!
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Rollaz
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:57:00 -
[676]
Originally by: Kal'Tyra
Originally by: Rollaz
Originally by: wilkins1950 hi rollaz or you can use the link here to down load manually http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe
How do you guys find these links, I'm always the last to see em.
Yo Wilk! :)
Rollaz, look at the left of your screen, EVE DOWNLOAD >> EVE Patches >> Tranquility
Or there http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp
SWEET, how funny, I've been playing for years and NEVER seen that hahah, too busy with the game, thanks for that one too.
Kal'Tyra +2
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carrie Aulmais
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:57:00 -
[677]
ok what i really want to know are any of the people who ar reading this forum now work more than 15 hour shifts i can bet that there will be none at the very most 1 or 2 so thing of the people a ccp working for 17 hours to bring you this update
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:58:00 -
[678]
Can I has a cookie?
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Isus Jarode
Gallente Sons of Ivaldi Zero Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:59:00 -
[679]
Originally by: wilkins1950 they were in the first few pages of the forum
If you'd link me specfics then I'd appreciate it, because I haven't seen any mention of it all the way to page 9.
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DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:00:00 -
[680]
Originally by: Broomide
Originally by: Sundarbolt Hey CCP
Just wanted to add my thoughts to such a terrible thread.
Thanks for the awesome universe you provide. I'm very much looking forward to trying this new build. Ignore these silly comments that seem to think they are somehow entitled to more than you already supply.
I have been playing online games and MMOs for around 15 years now and never has a development company impressed as you do. Not one.
So DT went into overtime? Everyone with half a brain had already accepted the possibility and prepared accordingly. As for the rest. Please do not compensate their infuriating, unjust and undeserved sense of entitlement. You will serve them better in the long run by helping them to learn.
I totally agree !! gotta love the devs who are still working over there !!
it is their job. They get paid to do it. And from what I have seen they aren't doing a very good job of doing their job.
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:00:00 -
[681]
Edited by: Arithron on 21/06/2011 23:02:28
Originally by: Isus Jarode
Originally by: wilkins1950 they were in the first few pages of the forum
If you'd link me specfics then I'd appreciate it, because I haven't seen any mention of it all the way to page 9.
You will find a clean install works better and is more reliable. Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Mylock Miannapan
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:01:00 -
[682]
Yes, cookies are available to all, 100 AUR each.
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Vu1t
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:02:00 -
[683]
Originally by: Arithron Edited by: Arithron on 21/06/2011 22:53:25
Originally by: Vu1t Will CCP add 1 extra day for free to everybody?
Why should they? You agreed to an EULA that mentions downtime for fixes and expansions. Besides, you seriously telling me you play for 24 hrs, and thus are entitled to a free day because you haven't been able to login for 17 hrs or so?
Personally, if it was my company I'd trawl through forums like these, find customers that think they are entitled to skill points/free gametime etc when IMPROVEMENTS are made to the game, and ban hammer the lot of them. This would improve the game environment of Eve no end, and thus be a positive PR exercise for those gamers that realise that improvements benefit them.
To give 1 extra day for 360+k players will make them good lesson for the future to give correct estimations. It doesn't matters how much I'm playing, I've done some plans for today - now it all is broken and I'm getting angry. For examlpe, I NEVER saw people happy when their parcel/documents delivered by DHL/UPS/FEDEX are retained for day or more. And no courier service will ban custmers if they are not providing proper service.
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bongpacks
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:02:00 -
[684]
Anyone else having the problem when at the login screen if HDR is enabled there's no animation? Just a black screen and if I hit esc I can then see some image in the bg, hit esc again and it makes the EULA pop up but the animation is still frozen. Disable HDR and it all seems to be fine. I guess it's not that big of a deal but I wouldn't mind not having technical difficulties every time an expansion is released. I don't take kindly to being used as a QA tester when I'm not only working for free, I'm paying my employer!
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carrie Aulmais
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:03:00 -
[685]
5 th page third post down
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La Port Royale
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 -
[686]
I started to play this game a while back now. And the first thing that totally got me hooked was the playerbase. Dedicated, smart and very creative and patient. (some times ahev to due to 23day skills to train)
But all that seems to disapear the moment devs keep us posted on the progress of business. CCP put alot of effort in alot of cool(and less cool) stuff this week. The finals of the tournament, all around the world fan/business days. Fought off several attacks via the net. refitting eve components, forums and redid evegate.
Compared to the screaming little children i left behind in WOW and others. Nothing seems different reading most of the comments this week. Yes is has been a ****ty week for all of us, CCP and players alike. But people nagging, or even trying to rally others to quit eve. Just because they have to wait for improvements ? Kinda strikes me odd knowing Eve like I do.
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Erin Sun
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:05:00 -
[687]
Originally by: Sundarbolt Hey CCP
Just wanted to add my thoughts to such a terrible thread.
Thanks for the awesome universe you provide. I'm very much looking forward to trying this new build. Ignore these silly comments that seem to think they are somehow entitled to more than you already supply.
I have been playing online games and MMOs for around 15 years now and never has a development company impressed as you do. Not one.
So DT went into overtime? Everyone with half a brain had already accepted the possibility and prepared accordingly. As for the rest. Please do not compensate their infuriating, unjust and undeserved sense of entitlement. You will serve them better in the long run by helping them to learn.
Yes, we get mad. And hope they test it abit more next time. We aint gonna leave, but we are paying them for a service. The game is great. And ofc i agree with you there, etc etc
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:05:00 -
[688]
Originally by: Mylock Miannapan Yes, cookies are available to all, 100 AUR each.
You, my mustache friend, have definitely won this thread.
Here is you free 1 tritanium compensation
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Raze Crandraven
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:06:00 -
[689]
it start to download to me... :) music for everyone: soundcloud/stekmusic enjoy :) |
DiscomBoBulate
The Fantastically Pantless Sporkmen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:06:00 -
[690]
I'm in
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Argus Kell
Gallente Blackwatch Highlanders
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:07:00 -
[691]
Aaaaagh! I wanna play so baaaad. I can't wait to walk my badass, realistic looking self up to my even more badass Mega, then check it out in all it sexy glory.
[note]This is not a whinge - I'm being patient, I'm just dead excited lol. I've been waiting for Incarna since the first day they announced that they were thinking about it ever. Then when they showed the Walking in Stations tech demo idea I was hooked and now... today... it's finally begun.
o_O CAN'T. FREAKIN. WAIT.
/excited rant over
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Rollaz
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:07:00 -
[692]
Originally by: Kal'Tyra Can I has a cookie?
Hahah, if the +2 wasn't enough...
Chk out the pic on the first page, laughed my ass off... and since the site is icanhazcheeseburger I thought of you..
http://icanhascheezburger.com/
Also, big shout out to fellow Airhogs (now hiring) member Wilkins, rock on dude!
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:07:00 -
[693]
Edited by: Arithron on 21/06/2011 23:08:00
Originally by: Vu1t
Originally by: Arithron Edited by: Arithron on 21/06/2011 22:53:25
Originally by: Vu1t Will CCP add 1 extra day for free to everybody?
Why should they? You agreed to an EULA that mentions downtime for fixes and expansions. Besides, you seriously telling me you play for 24 hrs, and thus are entitled to a free day because you haven't been able to login for 17 hrs or so?
Personally, if it was my company I'd trawl through forums like these, find customers that think they are entitled to skill points/free gametime etc when IMPROVEMENTS are made to the game, and ban hammer the lot of them. This would improve the game environment of Eve no end, and thus be a positive PR exercise for those gamers that realise that improvements benefit them.
To give 1 extra day for 360+k players will make them good lesson for the future to give correct estimations. It doesn't matters how much I'm playing, I've done some plans for today - now it all is broken and I'm getting angry. For examlpe, I NEVER saw people happy when their parcel/documents delivered by DHL/UPS/FEDEX are retained for day or more. And no courier service will ban custmers if they are not providing proper service.
When you start to plan your life around a game, this should start ringing some alarm bells!
DHL/FedEX etc state they will deliver in a certain time. CCP state clearly in EULA that they will take Eve Offline for expansions etc- theres a difference. If you've played a while, you'd realise that expansion day always take a while longer than they hope for. This is due to unforseen errors etc- I'd rather they took the time to implement a stable and fair expansion rather than one that was flakey or gave some advantages when they see a way to exploit an area of code that isn't working as it should.
Until it goes live, theres no way of seeing some of the problems. I fully expect a patch or two within 48 hrs :)
Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Morrigan Hazama
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:08:00 -
[694]
Shush all you whiners, the game is up now :P
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Fulmar Muse
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:08:00 -
[695]
Getting major error trying to startup... installer crashed half way thru installing... getting this message whilst trying to startup eve
Exefile.exe - Entry point not found
The procedure Entry Point ?IOCP_setOnTaskletScheduledCallback@@YAXP6AX_N@Z@Z could not be located in the dynamic link library python27.dll.
HALP!!!
"Keep on doin what you doin, do it gud.. "
Super fly] |
kingbilly
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:08:00 -
[696]
servers up
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Vu1t
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:08:00 -
[697]
Finally it works
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P Marshall
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:08:00 -
[698]
its live 20 mins early
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Kal'Tyra
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:08:00 -
[699]
Originally by: bongpacks Anyone else having the problem when at the login screen if HDR is enabled there's no animation? Just a black screen
Originally by: CCP
FIXES
Stability òClient start up mechanics have been improved to heavily reduce black screening issues.
oh wait... not there yet apparently
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Erin Sun
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:09:00 -
[700]
Originally by: DiscomBoBulate I'm in
Thats what....he said?
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Estherenza
Caldari Tesla Security
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:10:00 -
[701]
Originally by: La Port Royale I started to play this game a while back now. And the first thing that totally got me hooked was the playerbase. Dedicated, smart and very creative and patient. (some times ahev to due to 23day skills to train)
But all that seems to disapear the moment devs keep us posted on the progress of business. CCP put alot of effort in alot of cool(and less cool) stuff this week. The finals of the tournament, all around the world fan/business days. Fought off several attacks via the net. refitting eve components, forums and redid evegate.
Compared to the screaming little children i left behind in WOW and others. Nothing seems different reading most of the comments this week. Yes is has been a ****ty week for all of us, CCP and players alike. But people nagging, or even trying to rally others to quit eve. Just because they have to wait for improvements ? Kinda strikes me odd knowing Eve like I do.
Oh come now, most of it's in good fun, we're just griping while we wait hour after endless hour (past scheduled DT) to play the game we love so much...
And I'm hoping to run enough incursions this week to buy me my Golem in 2 days when I'm done training for it... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been here since '07 and I LIKE flying my Drake, so F*CK YOU!!! |
Argus Kell
Gallente Blackwatch Highlanders
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:10:00 -
[702]
Servers up. Incarna is awesome. Fact.
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Adam Lost
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:11:00 -
[703]
we know ccp are doing there best to get it up and running. for this we are thankful.
but they are still late and people have the right to complain. if u where getting a flight and it was late people complain. thats how the company knows there is something they must do about it.
ccp even thought they do a great job and we love the game, they are always late. so people are saying we would like a true time, or may be something to say sorrey for the delay. as most people would expect from any company
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