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Mercof Mercy
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:50:00 -
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It's just come down to me checking this thread once a day now... unless something big happens, not just some BS statement, i'm done. I stopped subbing after CCP felt the need to bend nullsec over, and my plexes will be running out in a week or 2.
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Estelle McDeal Dear players,
how tarded are you? We told you that we canŠt tell you what is going on behind the scenes as you already freaked out for some monocles. Of course we had plans to sell anything via MT starting with shiny ships and ending with your corpses. So stop being stupid and stop asking over and over again if we plan to do so. It was obvious from the very beginning of NeX. What do you think where we get all the money from for coding stuff that doesnŠt work and nobody ever asked for (=incarna)? What do you think who is paying Dust? We made a big hype about walking on station. Now you got your ****ty looking avatar walking in his prison cabin so better stfu and praise us for being pro. At least do so once your computer has cooled down to a temperature lesser then that of nuclear fusion. Would you now consider to stfu, play the game that is a bit screwed and continue to give us your money? And as our glorious leader told in this not so leaked mail: WE SIMPLY DONŠT CARE ABOUT YOU. WE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS WE ARE ONLY FRIEND TO YOUR ****ING CREDIT CARD. GET IT.
Sincerely CCP
Probably this kinda stuff will appear in the next Fearless magazine.
Hilmar is copy/pasting like crazy now ... it is spot on, it will just be packed in a lot of marketing mumbo-jumbo
Yea this could go directly to next devblog and people wouldn't even notice anything fishy. Looks like the standard CCP corporate policy nowdays. Everyone back to drilling rocks with the bots. --- This is one of the moments where we look at what CCP does and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change |

Eladaris
Amarr Excessum Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Demosai This is way too similar to a witch burning, people do need to get their acts back to something more civilized. An internal newsletter is meant to stay internal, no one in there was actually seeking what they said, it's called exaggerated effect analysis, to get people to think about what's going on and the possible fallout. No one was representing their true views (although this comment will never be read anyways, people are bloodthirsty)
I would also be happy if you removed your "two free expansions a year" claim. If this is an expansion, well no wonder it's free, you made the game that much harder to use. (see all the CQ complaint threads) I'd rather pay to not have this expansion.
Anyways, my point I do want a definite, "I will refund your subscription fees if this ever happens" promise.
Promise to never introduce a cash shop / (Micro)transaction/AUR thing that will ever influence actual gameplay.
That's it, make and keep that promise and I guarantee that everything will settle a hell of a lot more.
Don't worry.
You won't ever get it. CCP knows there's 38,000 people logged in right now, and even if a few thousand of them are shooting at monuments in the trade hubs everyone else is loyally doing their thing, dreaming of ways to fork out some AUR so CCP Zulu can buy new pants.
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Tla Atij
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest I find it immensely important, having read as much of this thread as humanly possible while still in an email/meeting/phonecall flurry yesterday, to let you guys know that Pann didn't abandon this thread on purpose. She had a family emergency in what is possibly the worst possible timing in the history of the internet, about 2 minutes after her second post in here. Everything is ok with that situation (talked to her yesterday). Whether you believe me or not, thems the facts. Saying that, obviously, on the day this thread began would have sounded ludicrous at best, spurious at least. Sort of like "my dog ate my homework" when your dog ACTUALLY ate it.
I haven't yet gotten to the blog responses, Facebook comments or reviewing Twitter hashtags. So please understand if I don't respond in a timely fashion in any venue and understand too that many questions simply cannot be answered directly. The nature of the beast.
The community team, likewise, has had their hands full with (as leniently as possible) enforcing forum rules and relaying information. We're all in it for the long haul though.
If some of my responses that I end up making do sound glib, I can assure you it is not because I don't understand the gravity of the situation at hand or the trueness of emotion/logic behind player opinion. It's because, frankly, of who I am.
Furthermore, if only some stuff gets answers or some seemingly random threads get attention, its also the nature of that same beast. Thanks for listening.
Maybe the beast should send a mass email to the EVE players too, like the one he sent his employees.
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Sith LordXXX
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sith LordXXX on 25/06/2011 13:53:33 The people badmouthing to CCP. Quote (You people should just stop talking right now. You want to solve the problem, heres the solution. Don't buy anything from the MT, you don't have to do it, nobody is making you.
You can stop yourself, its really that simple. It doesn't effect the game at all. Its just cloths for gods sake. And if you mention CQ just stop that too... you can turn that off too. Quote)
PPL Why U So Dumb... So Dumb... 
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Josh Bolder
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:51:00 -
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I THINK IT IS ONLY RIGHT THAT WE CANCCEL OUR SUBSCRIPTIONS, I am sad about this but I know that if they resolve and thats a big IF I can come back, but i am not wasting money on a game i will end up quitting latter. I suggest you all do the same, you can always come back. but currently there are 30,000 players online so i doubt they care to much about this thread
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Tea2theBag
Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:51:00 -
[8017]
LSS#1
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Meatay
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Josh Bolder I THINK IT IS ONLY RIGHT THAT WE CANCCEL OUR SUBSCRIPTIONS, I am sad about this but I know that if they resolve and thats a big IF I can come back, but i am not wasting money on a game i will end up quitting latter. I suggest you all do the same, you can always come back. but currently there are 30,000 players online so i doubt they care to much about this thread
way ahead of ya ----------------------------------------------
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Vashan Tar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:51:00 -
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There's obviously going to be gameplaying affecting items in the NEX market for Dust, that's pretty much a given if your setting it up free to play from the get-go. I don't have a PS3 (and don't intend to get one), so meh. It's a proven model that works for the free-to-play/facebook/console market. If world of darkness is designed from the ground up to also have micro-transactions for items in the NEX market then fine, go for it. If the "game-affecting" stuff I can buy in the Eve Online (spaceships)NEX marketplace actually only effects players in Dust (i.e. mercenary weapons/dropships/whatever), then again, I don't really have a problem with that. The big problem here is that people who have invested significant amounts of time and subscription money into building or creating something in the spaceship part of the eve universe, don't then want to get shafted by a guy who joins and on their first day buys an invulnerable flying pony that ****s golden doomsday bullets via sticking 2 grand on their credit card. Whilst your finance guys will be licking their lips, you will have put the nails in the coffin for everyone else playing who will realize that the only way to compete now is to spend significant additional money on top of their current subscription. No cunning tactics, no spying, no metagaming would be able to compete with the fact that the person/corporation you're fighting will just spend their way out of trouble.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar Fearsome Engine
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Wakeland Edited by: Wakeland on 25/06/2011 13:48:46 Steps to redemption:
1) APOLOGIZE FOR LYING TO OUR FACES AND FOR YOUR UNCARING "PLAYERS=GOLDEN GEESE" ATTITUDE.
2) REMOVE AURUM FROM GAME OR PROMISE(tm) THAT IT WILL ONLY BE COSMETIC ITEMS, FOREVER.
3) ROLL BACK CQ, OR MAKE IT ENTIRELY OPTIONAL.
4) SCRAP WoD, DUST AND OTHER PROJECTS TO MAKE EVE THE BEST GAME IT CAN BE WITH TWEAKS AND BALANCES
5) INTRODUCE NEW SHIPS IN PLACE OF/SHORTLY AFTER YOU FINISH W.I.S.
Steps 1, 2 and 3 are reasonable. But steps 4 and 5 are just plain dumb as hell.
First up you cannot expect them to dump Dust or WoD, they will make CCP a lot of money which they can use to spend on ALL their projects and as for the new ships, there needs to be a reason for them, not just because you want shiny. I personally would prefer that they worked on fixing all the damned bugs in EVE once Incarna is mostly up and running.
Originally by: Urban Dictionary Bro we just got monocled by CCP
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Seako
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:53:00 -
[8021]
LOL!
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sith LordXXX You people badmouthing to CCP should just stop talking right now. You want to solve the problem, heres the solution. Don't buy anything from the MT, you don't have to do it, nobody is making you.
You can stop yourself, its really that simple. It doesn't effect the game at all. Its just cloths for gods sake. And if you mention CQ just stop that too... you can turn that off too. 
PPL Why U So Dumb... So Dumb... 
congratulations, you not only missed the point, you showed us how dumb, uninformed and still proud of beeing a loudmouth you are.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: SunT zu So why do we even have / need a CSM. Seems its a waste of their time and efforts. They just get left out of the loop every time! Seems they are just a PR stunt from CCP to keep a "care about what the player thinks" front up.
If I was Mittani I'd offer my resignation.
This has been an HUGE spit on his face and on the face of the only one official player institution.
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |

Raven God
Texas Inc. THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:54:00 -
[8024]
Originally by: Carli Zandrya
Originally by: Horn Silver
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?: [ ] YES [ ] NO [ ] MAYBE [ ] AFRAID TO TELL [ ] SCARED ****TLESS [ ] I WANT MY MOMMY
Just answer the QUESTION !!
Answer plz
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Solvia
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:54:00 -
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Ladies and gentlmen of CCP, parley means talk... your doing the most quiet talking I have ever heared.
We still want answers, and judging by this thread your loosing accounts by not giving them.
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Jyngo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:54:00 -
[8026]
Edited by: Jyngo on 25/06/2011 13:54:37 But seriously, I'm gonna stay up all night if need be to snipe the 9001st post of this EPIC THREAD.
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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Nova Ardour
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:55:00 -
[8027]
Originally by: Tea2theBag LSS#1
I just spat up some orange soda! Well played, sir! ***** ***** ***** *****
"No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy." |

Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tla Atij
Originally by: CCP Manifest I find it immensely important, having read as much of this thread as humanly possible while still in an email/meeting/phonecall flurry yesterday, to let you guys know that Pann didn't abandon this thread on purpose. She had a family emergency in what is possibly the worst possible timing in the history of the internet, about 2 minutes after her second post in here. Everything is ok with that situation (talked to her yesterday). Whether you believe me or not, thems the facts. Saying that, obviously, on the day this thread began would have sounded ludicrous at best, spurious at least. Sort of like "my dog ate my homework" when your dog ACTUALLY ate it.
I haven't yet gotten to the blog responses, Facebook comments or reviewing Twitter hashtags. So please understand if I don't respond in a timely fashion in any venue and understand too that many questions simply cannot be answered directly. The nature of the beast.
The community team, likewise, has had their hands full with (as leniently as possible) enforcing forum rules and relaying information. We're all in it for the long haul though.
If some of my responses that I end up making do sound glib, I can assure you it is not because I don't understand the gravity of the situation at hand or the trueness of emotion/logic behind player opinion. It's because, frankly, of who I am.
Furthermore, if only some stuff gets answers or some seemingly random threads get attention, its also the nature of that same beast. Thanks for listening.
Maybe the beast should send a mass email to the EVE players too, like the one he sent his employees.
ROFLMAO ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |

Jaxom Asgard
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Josh Bolder I THINK IT IS ONLY RIGHT THAT WE CANCCEL OUR SUBSCRIPTIONS, I am sad about this but I know that if they resolve and thats a big IF I can come back, but i am not wasting money on a game i will end up quitting latter. I suggest you all do the same, you can always come back. but currently there are 30,000 players online so i doubt they care to much about this thread
More than last week it looks like looking at the graph so yup I expect your right.
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Orpheus Ovid
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:56:00 -
[8030]
Good Morning,
After reading the Fearless newsletter, then witnessing the insanity ensue in Jita, Amarr, and all across the EVE Universe, and of course Hilmar's letter...I was a little disheartened. These are trying times ahead for CCP, and I hope they do not become the next SWG.
Basically, what concerns me is the integrity of EVE. If this is a sandbox, then keep it a sandbox. Please try and be more imaginative then just dumping items in an EVE store. If you could perhaps create a new career path called tailoring/fashion designer with skill books, BPOs, and all of that. You could sell the skill book, BP, and materials through the NEX. Also, stick to vanity items. Honestly, I didn't have a problem with anything that Soundwave said. However, the potential to move into more substantial items and perks is troubling, which leads me to the the "Delivering the Goods" piece by Scott Holden in the Fearless Newsletter. I am very troubled by the selling of "ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright," and buying faction standings. I wouldn't mind vanity ships, but again...why not sell the BP.
Also, this is what I see for a possible future of EVE...Incarna and DUST will be expanded...I like this idea. Next, I see the NEX being slowly expanded and market tested if you will. Based on player response, which is demonstrated by players purchasing items, new items will be introduced.
Finally, I see a silver account and a gold account. The silver account will give you limited access to EVE, while the gold account will give unlimited access.
If this is where you are going...PLEASE tell us. Open communication is the key.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:56:00 -
[8031]
Anyone knows why the ever-present 0.0 players seem to almost completely ignore this thread?
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |

Florestan Bronstein
draketrain
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Brecht The Solution
After the uprising of the 17th of June The Secretary of the WritersÆ Union Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee Stating that the people Had forfeited the confidence of the government And could win it back only By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier In that case for the government To dissolve the people And elect another?
have the feeling that that's where CCP is trying to head to...
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Ro' LoPok
Texas Inc. THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:57:00 -
[8033]
Originally by: Raven God
Originally by: Carli Zandrya
Originally by: Horn Silver
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?: [ ] YES [ ] NO [ ] MAYBE [ ] AFRAID TO TELL [ ] SCARED ****TLESS [ ] I WANT MY MOMMY
Just answer the QUESTION !!
You are scarring your company forever by ignoring us
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RustyShackleford
Caldari Hysera.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:58:00 -
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--its quite simple really, remove the nex shop and never speak of it again, And people will go back to just being miffed about your horrible CQ feature.
To be very clear; the day you can MT for sp or any other non vanity item you will lose your most valuable/ profitable customer base and be left with alot of short term customers who will never have the attention span required to dedicate years and multiple accounts to this maddeningly addictive game. If you think this threadnaught is scary you should really see what is happening in private venues in game. You are going to have to work really hard to keep us paying for your game.
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Sith LordXXX
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Sith LordXXX on 25/06/2011 14:01:34
Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Originally by: Sith LordXXX You people badmouthing to CCP should just stop talking right now. You want to solve the problem, heres the solution. Don't buy anything from the MT, you don't have to do it, nobody is making you.
You can stop yourself, its really that simple. It doesn't effect the game at all. Its just cloths for gods sake. And if you mention CQ just stop that too... you can turn that off too. 
PPL Why U So Dumb... So Dumb... 
congratulations, you not only missed the point, you showed us how dumb, uninformed and still proud of beeing a loudmouth you are.
So not very smart person. Can I has your stuff? Since your "not smart enough" to ignore MT and can't figure out how to turn off CQ. U can just give me your stuff then one less foul mouth would be better place for us all in eve without you in it.
Nice going by the way Forum Warrior. Because you suck at the real game being a forum warrior is all you can really do. 
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Eladaris
Amarr Excessum Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Anyone knows why the ever-present 0.0 players seem to almost completely ignore this thread?
When you're already used to RMT'ing advantage... who cares about CCP sponsored MT?
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:59:00 -
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EVE ONLINE - AS WE KNOW IT NOW - IS HEADING TO /DEV/NULL
<INSERT DUKE NUKEM RELATED QUOTE WITH POOP & FUNERALS HERE> HILMAR --- This is one of the moments where we look at what CCP does and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change |

Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Anyone knows why the ever-present 0.0 players seem to almost completely ignore this thread?
Bittervets don't hang out on eve-o. Also, they are used to being treated like **** by CCP. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |

Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:01:00 -
[8039]
Any updates since last night?
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DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:01:00 -
[8040]
New in the next incarna patch: Threadnaught nerfs.
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