It might be the case that your Ishtar has a similar signature to your heavy drones...



P.S: Aren't you the guy that is annoying everyone, sperging assumptions and hate posts in Test Server Feedback ?

Call me what you like, label my posts as you like.
But check the actual thread where people are supposed to be posting test results.
Note the lack of posts.

Not surprising, since 5 minutes ago there were a grand total of 40 people on Duality.

Isn't that the chinese server?

Null sec ganks of people running PvE content. This does have an effect on that no doubt. To be honest yes this means you will no longer be able to do this solo in a stealth bomber. I however just tested it and was able to tank six frigate NPC in my nemesis long enough for another character to jump into the system and warp 73au. I might be wrong but with the amount of EWAR that comes from frigates, and their hatred of drones, most people usually shoot them first when running these. The cruisers and BS never even looked at my Nemesis while I ganked the Raven. I also made sure the Raven was only running local tank so as not to generate any extra threat. If you want to be able to gank these guys solo, then yes it is going to mean you will need to bring something bigger. If there are a lot of frigate NPC on the field, well that will be difficult. We have accepted that as OK.

You know they're not really listening.

Funny story about that. We are. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155703&p=12

Dismissing people's concerns outright is not listening. Namely I'm referring to how it makes no sense that NPCs would switch to a ship that's killing their previous target who was slaughtering them by the thousands. You didn't really address how several of us have stated that this makes things more secure for many players who run anomalies in nullsec for example, when this group certainly doesn't need an extra level of protection. I've looked through the tread and also haven't found anything addressing how this will make things significantly more difficult for new players who are trying missions with their more experienced friends, and significantly more difficult if not impossible for groups of players to tackle sites like Dread Guristas Fleet Staging Point 3 without ALL bringing the tank required to survive the station aggro.

You're introducing a lot of problems for exactly what benefit? Can you honestly tell me what the actual benefit of this is besides "it might make things more interesting" which is itself rather doubtful?

Funny story about that. We are. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155703&p=12

^^^ This. It seems odd to me that there is huge focus on roles and the elimination of levels (tiericide). Yet, this AI pushes us to use combat strategies that require using the same role : tank ships with guns. The traditional rules of aggro management are just not there. The gaming community via there marketing power has helped to mold NPC AI and aggro management in many many games.

If some neutral showed up in one of your PVP fights and started shooting your opponents, would you automatically think, "hey, new friends!" If not, why should the rats do that? You're an intruder, same as the other guy, and doubly dangerous as a capsuleer. I suppose they could do some tactical thing where they let you gang up on the other guy until he pops, and then they all switch to you, but that's asking a fair amount from a computer game AI.

You're trespassing on their turf. There's no logical reason for them to be happy about that. They're ruthless pirates, and the slaves of monomaniacal tyrants, out in lawless nullsec.

Please stop defending the CCP Developer's when they go out of their way to squash the play-styles of PvP'ers and newer player's... and then ignore anyone complaining about these changes as being trivial.

Logic has no real foundation in a space-based submarine simulator type game anyway.

If it's so critical to PVP in EVE that the aggressor show up in the same paper ship he's always used, and that he has the full help and support of rats to take down his target, I'm sure CCP could find some way to rationalize that.

Come test and give feedback!

Why should I bother? You're just going to ignore it.

The NPC pirate ships, generally called rats, will be getting a few upgrades to their... brains? CCP FoxFour has written a new dev blog about the plans to make our resident computer controlled entities just a little smarter.

It is available for your reading pleasure here.

Please let us know what you think of these upcoming upgrades in the comments section below.

Duality is back open for testing. NPC AI is on it. Come test and give feedback! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2099233#post2099233

Dismissing people's concerns outright is not listening. Namely I'm referring to how it makes no sense that NPCs would switch to a ship that's killing their previous target who was slaughtering them by the thousands. You didn't really address how several of us have stated that this makes things more secure for many players who run anomalies in nullsec for example, when this group certainly doesn't need an extra level of protection. I've looked through the tread and also haven't found anything addressing how this will make things significantly more difficult for new players who are trying missions with their more experienced friends, and significantly more difficult if not impossible for groups of players to tackle sites like Dread Guristas Fleet Staging Point 3 without ALL bringing the tank required to survive the station aggro.

You're introducing a lot of problems for exactly what benefit? Can you honestly tell me what the actual benefit of this is besides "it might make things more interesting" which is itself rather doubtful?

Dismissing people's concerns outright is not listening. Namely I'm referring to how it makes no sense that NPCs would switch to a ship that's killing their previous target who was slaughtering them by the thousands. You didn't really address how several of us have stated that this makes things more secure for many players who run anomalies in nullsec for example, when this group certainly doesn't need an extra level of protection. I've looked through the tread and also haven't found anything addressing how this will make things significantly more difficult for new players who are trying missions with their more experienced friends, and significantly more difficult if not impossible for groups of players to tackle sites like Dread Guristas Fleet Staging Point 3 without ALL bringing the tank required to survive the station aggro.

You're introducing a lot of problems for exactly what benefit? Can you honestly tell me what the actual benefit of this is besides "it might make things more interesting" which is itself rather doubtful?

Sums up a lot of concerns well, please reconsider this change.

Remember that sooner or later: common sense > elitism.

game changer

Could that be the intent?
Just hearing about these changes skyrocketed my skillpoints in missiles+guns....
That would make it easier to PvP in several fleet comps...
/me gets [Tinfoil Hat]


Joke(?) aside, can you really see what you proposed happening?
As in, with a realistic chance, not ideally.

well i know voting is out of the question for alot of reasons. I just hate that ccp put so much time and money in this effort towards something i never had an issue with. Honestly i could care less about afk drone boaters, afk mining, afk anything. See thats the one thing i liked about this game, the amount of effort required depended on what i wanted to do. Heres the thing...i dont afk mine or mission, i run null sec complexes and this stops my game style for doing the sites. YES i could still do them with 2 accounts repping and 1 account applying dps but this would take too long due to the fact that ccp has nerfed drop rates of the sites i run so when i do get a drop it will not justify the time ive invested compared to running my 3 accounts in high sec doing lvl 4 missions. And the flipside to that is thats just me and my accounts, if i went with a group it would be even more worthless, so as a result you can make more isk mission running in high sec. This is what i propose change just the mission rats AI. Boom problem solved for me and that is all i care about.. : )