wow you guys post a lot. I'm still just going to let you speculate until you see my team's first dev blog:+P

wow you guys post a lot. I'm still just going to let you speculate until you see my team's first dev blog:+P

wow you guys post a lot. I'm still just going to let you speculate until you see my team's first dev blog:+P

And when we can expect that being published? :)

Maybe you don't post ENOUGH eh?

Just for that comment I'm going to place a bounty on you when I know how they work.

if I'd tell you this wouldn't be a good tease!

if I'd tell you this wouldn't be a good tease!

Every bounty system I've seen is made moot due to alts.

Let me list the advantages you would have going after the blind killright victim.
1. You get to chose time and place.
2. You get to know what ship they're flying.
3. You get to check what fit they're running.
4. You get to chose the starting range.
5. You get the first shot.
6. You get to abandon your attempt if you've spooked your target.
7. 1, 4,5,6 are all mechanically enforced.

Tell me, with all that stacked against you, could you win? Could anyone?

So.... which of those don't apply to suicide ganking? Should that be removed also?

honestly, Pipa, I'm really disappointed with you taking a stand against a shift to player-enforced consequences rather than yet another dreary CONCORD boost. Especially one that promotes the holy grails of solo PvP and hi-sec PvP. Is non consensual PvP only desirable when it's against players in defenceless non combat ships or something? You're sounding like the stereotype "gankbear" in the badposts about piracy and ganking. Stop feeding those guys lines for the love of God.

I will wait to see what CCP has come up with, however I pretty much agree with your point. Any bounty system suffers from the same weakness shared by any "lock and key" system, be it a physical lock or a DRM scheme buried in a lot of encrypted goobledegook. You can do whatever you want to obfuscate, but at the end of the day if you allow user "X" to open the lock, then users "Y" and "Z" will also be able to open the lock if they have the right key/code/password/etc.

Therefore if any player can claim a bounty, then an alt can also claim a bounty, since it is impossible for CCP to prove who I am friends with or who is working for me.

The only system I could imagine as working is if the person who is hunted has absolutely no idea that a price is on their head, and if the person offering the reward can limit it to a specific person/corp when placing the bounty. But that still doesn't stop people from scamming, like a popular bounty-hunter corp could for example offer to split the bounties with the wanted people, in exchange for letting themselves be killed.

Meanwhile, let me list the advantages the killright victim has over the gank victim:

1) Only the guy with the killright can attack him
2) He can be in any ship he likes, presumably one that's PvP capable
3) He's likely to be in the company of other PvPers who may be willing to assist him eg with logistics, bumping or even suicide ganking
4) He's unlikely to have expensive fittings, and won't necessarily be in a T2 ship.
5) He knows that there are killrights on him, and has a specific reason to be alert for a known period of time

Sooner you publish, bigger tearz you collect. And as we all know space hamsterz run on tearz.

1) But he can't find out who they are, so that's no advantage.

Alternatively, stop ganking and pirating if you're worried about people in ships more threatening than haulers and hulks shooting back at you.

Oh right, you're just trolling. Sorry, carry on.

Killright kills don't cost the attacker anything.

Alternatively, stop ganking and pirating if you're worried about people in ships more threatening than haulers and hulks shooting back at you.

Except the ship that was lost to create the killright in the first place

The first draft of the dev blog has a reference to one of my two favorite movies :3

The first draft of the dev blog has a reference to one of my two favorite movies :3

Hey CCP punkturis I really like you and would like to know something about you
What is your favorite movie for example?

Oh, I'm not worried at all about that being the case. :) I'm quite resigned to the fact that I'll be one of the first people out there with a substantial bounty pool on my head. My alts too, once they are all discovered.

princess bride and elf!

princess bride

What's wrong with your targets being able to know they're being hunted, and be able to fight back?

Suicide Gank Victims can do both. Scouts/Dscan, and Guards work wonders to foil most suicide gank.

Blind Tradeable killright targets can't find out who's gunning from them and can't be effectively helped.