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Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 641	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:03:00 - [571] - Quote space ganelon wrote: "Kill Rights will now be created at the same time a Criminal flag is put on a player, but only for attacking in hi sec or podding in low sec" I love the idea of being able to "rent" kill rights, tho I would prefer it to start a Limited Engagement rather than Suspect flag - I do not want to share the kill! However... To me, the above statement of how you get killrights effectively renders them pointless. Folks who pod in lowsec are usually going to be flashy anyhow, due to the whomping big sec hit associated with podding, and ppl who care about sec status generally don't pod. KR on a flashy is redundant since they're, well, flashy. Hisec ganking is such a small fraction of pvp that I don't see it generating any useful volume of KRs either. I'll assert that the new Crimewatch mechanics will also reduce the number of hisec ganks since the scooping of ganked loot becomes minutely more problematic. Sooo.... where are these lovely rentable KRs going to come from? Why did non-return-fire lowsec ship kills get removed as KR generators? Too complicated to describe/maintain ? Why not say any lowsec ship aggression that generates a Suspect flag grants a KR? please? :) -space This is good..... although it means infinite lowsec killrights... To explain: I find a person will killrights... I activate the KR, make them a suspect... which grants killrights?? maybe an alternative option.... All aggressive actions on another player that generate a Sec Status Loss also grant Killrights...
Buffalo Ryder Space Vikings 0	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:10:00 - [572] - Quote this is 1 of the hottest forum subjects this year thank you ccp my thought on ASB should be only 10-12% more boost than a pith x-type (x-large) ( dunno about the smaller units) or possible reduction boost amp effectiveness or increase of cap use use or larger fitting requirements also structure bounties should be payed out to top damage dealer and final blow (makes an incentive to blow up high sec POS) are structure bounties just reserved to POS ? how about sov blockade units or mobile warp disruptors? or would corp/alliance bounties cover these deployable structure? i have been waiting salvage drone for awhile and would the noctis get a drone bay for these drones? maybe a skill to make these salvage drones more effective to possbilty of a t1 salvager ( t2 salvager still be king) :: explosive incredible hulk brofist to ccp::
Strata Maslav Born-2-Kill 0utNumbered 42	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:16:00 - [573] - Quote CCP Punkturis wrote: Kreed Ellecon wrote: so as of right now i can go to my overview settings and tag every player with buyable kill rights and select them to be color coded in my overview,,, that option does not exist right now,,, there's a show pilots with bounty's option (which currently only works in the overview, not in local list - but we're fixing for the expansion) but we want to add an option to show pilots with buyable kill rights in there too, with some specific icon and color (I already mentioned pink, I WANT PINK) (I had already replied to this question here - does nobody notice my posts??????????) Im putting my vote down for pink and white polka dots
space ganelon The Executioners Capital Punishment. 2	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:21:00 - [574] - Quote Gizznitt Malikite wrote: space ganelon wrote: Why not say any lowsec ship aggression that generates a Suspect flag grants a KR? please? :) This is good..... although it means infinite lowsec killrights... To explain: I find a person will killrights... I activate the KR, make them a suspect... which grants killrights?? maybe an alternative option.... All aggressive actions on another player that generate a Sec Status Loss also grant Killrights... Actualy, I did say "ship aggression that generates Suspect flag" - activating KR is not ship aggression, thus does not generate KR. Nor would returning fire on someone who aggressed you.

CCP Punkturis C C P C C P Alliance 3484	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:25:00 - [575] - Quote Strata Maslav wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: Kreed Ellecon wrote: so as of right now i can go to my overview settings and tag every player with buyable kill rights and select them to be color coded in my overview,,, that option does not exist right now,,, there's a show pilots with bounty's option (which currently only works in the overview, not in local list - but we're fixing for the expansion) but we want to add an option to show pilots with buyable kill rights in there too, with some specific icon and color (I already mentioned pink, I WANT PINK) (I had already replied to this question here - does nobody notice my posts??????????) Im putting my vote down for pink and white polka dots what about pink and hello kitty (bounty is black and has skull) Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs

ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:27:00 - [576] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Bounty payouts can be adjusted up a bit by how highly ranked the person is on the bounty board... and you also have to be aware that module and loot drops that will be picked up also affect (in addition to insurance payout) how profitable the system would be. those are very good points that I missed. Ranger 1 wrote: As for "stealing" the current bounties... really? You realize ISK is not your, and never is yours. The moment you spend your money and convert it to ISK it becomes an in game asset that you do not personally own. It belongs to CCP. They let you use it to play the game, or take it away as they see fit. If you don't get that, you need to adjust your thinking a bit. I do understand the legal justifications. But legal and illegal having nothing to do with right and wrong nor functional and not functional. I'm not saying you have to see things my way so please don't tell me that I must seeing things your way. CCP controls all the rules around in game isk. That gives them complete control over it. When the game is strictly sold as a pay over time thing where you give them a set amount of money at set intervals then your comment has more validity. When a mechanic is introduced to buy game money with real money then the line becomes blurred. It's like designing a product to fail just outside of warranty so that you can sell the product more often. There is nothing illegal about it but it is certainly corrupt. There is a conflict of interests there. You have to understand that just like we work within the rules of the game to try and benefit ourselves to the highest degree so does CCP work with in the rules of the corporate world to benefit themselves the most. I'm not saying that is bad or wrong I'm just saying that when dealing with people you can better influence how they will act by monitoring their incentives than by trying to argue them to your point of view. Put into the context of this game that means you can have a greater effect on game design by insisting on certain profit motives than you can on arguing on the forums about game mechanics. I would rather see it where CCP's main profit motive is to bring more people into the game than to sell more virtual goods to their players. In recent years CCP has moved more and more towards selling virtual goods to people for real life money. I understand that there are many games out there that do it. I understand that I can choose to play this game or not. This is a dev blog and that comment was geared towards the Devs not other players. I am in so many words telling the Devs that if they continue to turn this game into a marketing opportunity to sell me fake **** I will find something else to do with my free time. I'm old enough to remember when cable TV first came out. Initially I thought it was a great idea. You pay money every month to watch TV which you used to get for free but the benefit was since you payed monthly you did not have to watch commercials. A lot of people at the time liked the idea of paying so as not to watch commercials as well and cable TV grew to the point where commercial TV was being threatened to go way because so many people were willing to pay to not watch them . It was at this point that commercials started appearing on Cable TV as well as the main networks now being on cable. I for one got sick of paying over $100 dollars per month for commercial TV and have not had a TV in my home in over 10 years now. I left WoW when they started selling virtual goods and I'm coming close to leaving this due to marketing of virtual goods to me inside a game that I pay a monthly fee to play. If you like being marketed to in game then contiue to do so. That comment was not directed at you but at the Devs.
Alexander Renoir State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:27:00 - [577] - Quote @ Punkturis please try to answer: Why do you at CCP think that it would be a good idea to implement a new anonymous tool to be able to harass players, who never ever did criminal acts to others? DevBlog wrote: [...] bounties can now be placed on anyone, weGÇÖre removing the -1 security standing requirement currently in the bounty system. Why this? Someone who never played offensive and just wants to play WITHOUT beeing a pirat, ganker or a$$hole and just wants to fly his missions, build ships or mines will now get bountys. WHY? You state that: CCP Punkturis wrote: I don't see how that's different than just ganking him over and over without the bounty? When there is no diference .. why this option to anonymous griefe a person with a positive security rating with bounty who never did criminal acts? I never did criminals acts because I never wanted a bounty! Now every player is able to add an bounty to me although I never did harm him/her. I thought that the bounty system is administrated from CONCORD; the police in EVE. But now even good players will get bounties just for fun. THAT makes no sense. Keep the option to place bountys to REAL CRIMINALS with negative security rating .. not to someone who never played like an a$$hole!
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 1056	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:28:00 - [578] - Quote CCP Punkturis wrote: Strata Maslav wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: Kreed Ellecon wrote: so as of right now i can go to my overview settings and tag every player with buyable kill rights and select them to be color coded in my overview,,, that option does not exist right now,,, there's a show pilots with bounty's option (which currently only works in the overview, not in local list - but we're fixing for the expansion) but we want to add an option to show pilots with buyable kill rights in there too, with some specific icon and color (I already mentioned pink, I WANT PINK) (I had already replied to this question here - does nobody notice my posts??????????) Im putting my vote down for pink and white polka dots what about pink and hello kitty (bounty is black and has skull) That may well be more of a deterrence to criminal activity than any bounty or kill rights. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Logicycle Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing 75	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:29:00 - [579] - Quote Very cool stuff coming.

CCP Punkturis C C P C C P Alliance 3484	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:33:00 - [580] - Quote Alexander Renoir wrote: @ Punkturis please try to answer: Why do you at CCP think that it would be a good idea to implement a new anonymous tool to be able to harass players, who never ever did criminal acts to others? DevBlog wrote: [...] bounties can now be placed on anyone, weGÇÖre removing the -1 security standing requirement currently in the bounty system. Why this? Someone who never played offensive and just wants to play WITHOUT beeing a pirat, ganker or a$$hole and just wants to fly his missions, build ships or mines will now get bountys. WHY? You state that: CCP Punkturis wrote: I don't see how that's different than just ganking him over and over without the bounty? When there is no diference .. why this option to anonymous griefe a person with a positive security rating with bounty who never did criminal acts? I never did criminals acts because I never wanted a bounty! Now every player is able to add an bounty to me although I never did harm him/her. I thought that the bounty system is administrated from CONCORD; the police in EVE. But now even good players will get bounties just for fun. THAT makes no sense. Keep the option to place bountys to REAL CRIMINALS with negative security rating .. not to someone who never played like an a$$hole! I believe (I have faith!) that people will mostly be putting bounties on people that annoy them, not just random people in local.. you can be a pretty annoying forum poster but a nice person in game so you might want to place bounty on that guy I think that if you're a nice person in general people are going to leave you alone that said, there are of course mean people that'll suicide gank anyone, with or without bounties but I'll also point out I'm not a game designer, I'm just a brogrammer Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs


OlRotGut 38	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:36:00 - [581] - Quote CCP Punkturis wrote: but I'll also point out I'm not a game designer, I'm just a brogrammer I see what you did there. =)
Alexander Renoir State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:42:00 - [582] - Quote CCP Punkturis wrote: Alexander Renoir wrote: @ Punkturis please try to answer: Why do you at CCP think that it would be a good idea to implement a new anonymous tool to be able to harass players, who never ever did criminal acts to others? DevBlog wrote: [...] bounties can now be placed on anyone, weGÇÖre removing the -1 security standing requirement currently in the bounty system. Why this? Someone who never played offensive and just wants to play WITHOUT beeing a pirat, ganker or a$$hole and just wants to fly his missions, build ships or mines will now get bountys. WHY? You state that: CCP Punkturis wrote: I don't see how that's different than just ganking him over and over without the bounty? When there is no diference .. why this option to anonymous griefe a person with a positive security rating with bounty who never did criminal acts? I never did criminals acts because I never wanted a bounty! Now every player is able to add an bounty to me although I never did harm him/her. I thought that the bounty system is administrated from CONCORD; the police in EVE. But now even good players will get bounties just for fun. THAT makes no sense. Keep the option to place bountys to REAL CRIMINALS with negative security rating .. not to someone who never played like an a$$hole! I believe (I have faith!) that people will mostly be putting bounties on people that annoy them, not just random people in local.. you can be a pretty annoying forum poster but a nice person in game so you might want to place bounty on that guy I think that if you're a nice person in general people are going to leave you alone that said, there are of course mean people that'll suicide gank anyone, with or without bounties but I'll also point out I'm not a game designer, I'm just a brogrammer Sorry, but I do not have your faith. People annoy other people JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN! It was ever so in EVE. Why do you think that there will be a change and that all people will use the new bounty system as intented? That will NOT happen. It is the nature of eve that there will be griefing. They need no reason. But perhaps I can use this new system to show you that you do NOT need a special reason to get a bounty. All I have to do is waiting and set a few 100k ISK on some CCP's as soon as this crap goes online.
Dersen Lowery Knavery Inc. StructureDamage 126	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:43:00 - [583] - Quote I hope this is the beginning of the end of security status, actually, as it's so easily manipulated as to be completely meaningless, and it's in dire need of replacement. Roime wrote: A missioner kills thousands and thousands of innocent people everyday. Face the consequences. I'm pretty sure this is not what you meant, but if NPC pirates put bounties on mission runners who killed them one too many times, that would be pretty funny. Speaking as someone who's blown up his share of NPC pirates.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:45:00 - [584] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: As for "stealing" the current bounties... really? I just looked in the bounty office. There is someone with a 218 Billion isk bounty currently. At 500 million per PLEX that is about 436 PLEX removed from the game or $8,720 USD worth of PLEX removed from a quick change of code. If you fail to see how that can be considered corrupt then I guess you and I just aren't on the same page and will have to agree to disagree.

CCP Punkturis C C P C C P Alliance 3490	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:46:00 - [585] - Quote Alexander Renoir wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: Alexander Renoir wrote: @ Punkturis please try to answer: Why do you at CCP think that it would be a good idea to implement a new anonymous tool to be able to harass players, who never ever did criminal acts to others? DevBlog wrote: [...] bounties can now be placed on anyone, weGÇÖre removing the -1 security standing requirement currently in the bounty system. Why this? Someone who never played offensive and just wants to play WITHOUT beeing a pirat, ganker or a$$hole and just wants to fly his missions, build ships or mines will now get bountys. WHY? You state that: CCP Punkturis wrote: I don't see how that's different than just ganking him over and over without the bounty? When there is no diference .. why this option to anonymous griefe a person with a positive security rating with bounty who never did criminal acts? I never did criminals acts because I never wanted a bounty! Now every player is able to add an bounty to me although I never did harm him/her. I thought that the bounty system is administrated from CONCORD; the police in EVE. But now even good players will get bounties just for fun. THAT makes no sense. Keep the option to place bountys to REAL CRIMINALS with negative security rating .. not to someone who never played like an a$$hole! I believe (I have faith!) that people will mostly be putting bounties on people that annoy them, not just random people in local.. you can be a pretty annoying forum poster but a nice person in game so you might want to place bounty on that guy I think that if you're a nice person in general people are going to leave you alone that said, there are of course mean people that'll suicide gank anyone, with or without bounties but I'll also point out I'm not a game designer, I'm just a brogrammer Sorry, but I do not have your faith. People annoy other people JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN! It was ever so in EVE. Why do you think that there will be a change and that all people will use the new bounty system as intented? That will NOT happen. It is the nature of eve that there will be griefing. They need no reason. But perhaps I can use this new system to show you that you do NOT need a special reason to get a bounty. All I have to do is waiting and set a few 100k ISK on some CCP's as soon as this crap goes online. I didn't say it wouldn't be, I said I think it will mostly be used to place bounty on annoying people! but I mean people already gank nice people, do you think they'll start doing so much more of that now if they have bounties on them? also, I'l say it again, your sec status in space doesn't have to say that you're not annoying, you could be super annoying on the forums! Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs

space ganelon The Executioners Capital Punishment. 2	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:46:00 - [586] - Quote I've really tried to be positive, but the more I think about it the more the new bounty system seems pointless. The devs are clearly between a rock and a hard place on bounties - pay too much, suicide collection nullifies the bounty. Pay too little, having a bounty or not becomes irrelevant in how often you get blowed up. The upper bound on what a bounty can pay is pretty much: (ship_cost + insurance_cost) - insurance_payout Any more than that, it is profitable to consume your own bounty. (KB efficiency aside) That's a pretty small benfit, considering you already expect to get about that order of magnitude of payout anyhow in the form of module drops. So, I contend it's just really not possible to make a totally public bounty system with any real value. This leads to what's already been discussed, limiting the payout to a group chosen by the person placing the bounty. This mechanic already exists, it's called a merc corp. Yep, merc corps can scam you. (choose wisely) You could add, as suggested, some analog of "kill contracts", which I personally would enjoy very much. But the libertarian in me says don't bother making it a game mechanic, let the market and community decide who the reliable merc corps are. To all the carebears up in arms about the new bounty system: 1) If you are in hisec, the bounty will never tip the scales over whether it is worth it to gank you. Most gankers are businessmen, not simply drunken teenagers. Especially since the tank buff to hulk and friends. 2) If you are in lowsec, we will shoot you becuase you are there, bounty or no. It's what we do. 3) In the event the bounty incites a wardec for the hisec opportunity, you'll at least be forewarned to eschew bling. That's all I have to say about that. EDIT: fix typo
Dersen Lowery Knavery Inc. StructureDamage 126	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:51:00 - [587] - Quote Alexander Renoir wrote: Sorry, but I do not have your faith. People annoy other people JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN! It was ever so in EVE. Why do you think that there will be a change and that all people will use the new bounty system as intented? That will NOT happen. It is the nature of eve that there will be griefing. They need no reason. But perhaps I can use this new system to show you that you do NOT need a special reason to get a bounty. All I have to do is waiting and set a few 100k ISK on some CCP's as soon as this crap goes online. It was ever so in EVE by design, if I remember my CCP lore correctly. Besides, it's hard enough for trained, veteran judges to sort out guilt and innocence. You want a computer to do it in real time? More to the point, you want a system that can't be abused? Because those simply don't exist. Anywhere. EDIT: And sec status is meaningless. Or, strictly speaking, a positive sec status means that you've popped dozens of rat ships per player ship... which, from the point of view of what you're trying to argue for, is meaningless.
Alexander Renoir State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:53:00 - [588] - Quote CCP Punkturis wrote: I didn't say it wouldn't be, I said I think it will mostly be used to place bounty on annoying people! but I mean people already gank nice people, do you think they'll start doing so much more of that now if they have bounties on them? also, I'l say it again, your sec status in space doesn't have to say that you're not annoying, you could be super annoying on the forums! ALL you forget is the FACT that my main char is a nice guy who likes to help other players. Now imagine a new player who I want to help and who sees my bounty because of some other dumb player! Ho should I explain an absolute new player, WITHOUT ANY knowledge of this game that I really like to help him? I habe 300 Mill ISK bounty on my head. I must be a bad guy. No one will have help from a man with a high bounty. You at CCP do not really play ALL possible situations before you make an decision. So I will stop helping other players. Perhaps I will gank especially new players! Why? I have alrady bounty on my head. It is useless to take care of my reputation. ABSOLUTE BAD IDEA CCP!

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 5051	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:56:00 - [589] - Quote If anything tbh bounties are now not "worth" it than before. Since now you can place it on anyone, ship, corp etc it semi lost the value compared to when only "bad pilots" could get one. Regardless if you can claim it or not. For example, now if a 4.0 pilot has one, you will know that piliot at one time was a negative. In the future, you will not know if it was because of negative or simply because someone felt like putting a bounty on a 4.0 or not. Regardless of good or bad. I can imagine pilots putting bounties on pilots that never done anything to anyone, just for that sake. Good or bad, well that depends on how one see it, but with people knowing that you can, that shouldn't hurt too much for positive people either way (assuming ppl read the blogs lol) /c GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Follow me on Twitter @Chribba


CCP Punkturis C C P C C P Alliance 3491	Posted - 2012.10.12 18:59:00 - [590] - Quote Alexander Renoir wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: I didn't say it wouldn't be, I said I think it will mostly be used to place bounty on annoying people! but I mean people already gank nice people, do you think they'll start doing so much more of that now if they have bounties on them? also, I'l say it again, your sec status in space doesn't have to say that you're not annoying, you could be super annoying on the forums! ALL you forget is the FACT that my main char is a nice guy who likes to help other players. Now imagine a new player I want to help and who sees my bounty because of some other dumb player gave me a bounty! How should I explain an absolute new player, WITHOUT ANY knowledge of this game, that I really just like to help him? I have 300 Mill ISK bounty on my head. I must be a bad guy. No one will have help from a man with a high bounty. You at CCP do not really play ALL possible situations before you make an decision. So I will stop helping other players. Perhaps I will gank especially new players! Why? I will have alrady bounty on my head after this crap. It is useless to take care of my reputation. ABSOLUTE BAD IDEA CCP! hey I already told you I'm not a game designer, I don't know why you care so much about my opinion on it but I like that you're a nice guy and help new players, it's really cute :3 Punkturis has bounty on her head on TQ now, I hope that doesn't mean people don't see me as a nice person! Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs


Alexander Renoir State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:04:00 - [591] - Quote CCP Punkturis wrote: Alexander Renoir wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: I didn't say it wouldn't be, I said I think it will mostly be used to place bounty on annoying people! but I mean people already gank nice people, do you think they'll start doing so much more of that now if they have bounties on them? also, I'l say it again, your sec status in space doesn't have to say that you're not annoying, you could be super annoying on the forums! ALL you forget is the FACT that my main char is a nice guy who likes to help other players. Now imagine a new player I want to help and who sees my bounty because of some other dumb player gave me a bounty! How should I explain an absolute new player, WITHOUT ANY knowledge of this game, that I really just like to help him? I have 300 Mill ISK bounty on my head. I must be a bad guy. No one will have help from a man with a high bounty. You at CCP do not really play ALL possible situations before you make an decision. So I will stop helping other players. Perhaps I will gank especially new players! Why? I will have alrady bounty on my head after this crap. It is useless to take care of my reputation. ABSOLUTE BAD IDEA CCP! hey I already told you I'm not a game designer, I don't know why you care so much about my opinion on it but I like that you're a nice guy and help new players, it's really cute :3 Punkturis has bounty on her head on TQ now, I hope that doesn't mean people don't see me as a nice person! I just want to tell you.. and ALL other reading DEV's / CCP's that this simple idea of giving bounty to every one is a bad idea and I hope that EXACT my situation will be discussed from the people in power. Good gys MUST be identifiable! Bounty on every one leads to the opinion "You have bounty? You are a bad guy. GO AWAY! NOW!!!" Btw.. that was exact my opinion as i started playing eve. After some (long) time I learned what a crap bounty system CCP has developed.. but the firts weeks I do not wanted to have negative rated persons in my local. Perhaps "placing bounty on every one" is not an idea from CCP. It is the evidence that CCP is unable to bring a better bounty system. If you do NOT implement the ability to place a bounty on a positive rated player; CCP wold be unable to bring bounty on corporations / alliances with positive rated players in this corp / alliance!
Jas Dor Republic University Minmatar Republic 141	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:09:00 - [592] - Quote Will it be possible to place a bounty on an NPC noob corporation?
Bodega Cat Perkone Caldari State 14	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:12:00 - [593] - Quote CCP Punkturis wrote: I believe (I have faith!) that people will mostly be putting bounties on people that annoy them, not just random people in local.. you can be a pretty annoying forum poster but a nice person in game so you might want to place bounty on that guy I think that if you're a nice person in general people are going to leave you alone that said, there are of course mean people that'll suicide gank anyone, with or without bounties but I'll also point out I'm not a game designer, I'm just a brogrammer It also stands to reason, that a big enough d-bag to randomly do this on the reg, is probably going to be worrying more about his climbing bounty himself.

CCP Punkturis C C P C C P Alliance 3491	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:13:00 - [594] - Quote Jas Dor wrote: Will it be possible to place a bounty on an NPC noob corporation? no you can only place bounty on player corporations Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs


CCP Punkturis C C P C C P Alliance 3491	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:14:00 - [595] - Quote Alexander Renoir wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: Alexander Renoir wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: I didn't say it wouldn't be, I said I think it will mostly be used to place bounty on annoying people! but I mean people already gank nice people, do you think they'll start doing so much more of that now if they have bounties on them? also, I'l say it again, your sec status in space doesn't have to say that you're not annoying, you could be super annoying on the forums! ALL you forget is the FACT that my main char is a nice guy who likes to help other players. Now imagine a new player I want to help and who sees my bounty because of some other dumb player gave me a bounty! How should I explain an absolute new player, WITHOUT ANY knowledge of this game, that I really just like to help him? I have 300 Mill ISK bounty on my head. I must be a bad guy. No one will have help from a man with a high bounty. You at CCP do not really play ALL possible situations before you make an decision. So I will stop helping other players. Perhaps I will gank especially new players! Why? I will have alrady bounty on my head after this crap. It is useless to take care of my reputation. ABSOLUTE BAD IDEA CCP! hey I already told you I'm not a game designer, I don't know why you care so much about my opinion on it but I like that you're a nice guy and help new players, it's really cute :3 Punkturis has bounty on her head on TQ now, I hope that doesn't mean people don't see me as a nice person! I just want to tell you.. and ALL other reading DEV's / CCP's that this simple idea of giving bounty to every one is a bad idea and I hope that EXACT my situation will be discussed from the people in power. Good gys MUST be identifiable! Bounty on every one leads to the opinion "You have bounty? You are a bad guy. GO AWAY! NOW!!!" Btw.. that was exact my opinion as i started playing eve. After some (long) time I learned what a crap bounty system CCP has developed.. but the firts weeks I do not wanted to have negative rated persons in my local. Perhaps "placing bounty on every one" is not an idea from CCP. It is the evidence that CCP is unable to bring a better bounty system. If you do NOT implement the ability to place a bounty on a positive rated player; CCP wold be unable to bring bounty on corporations / alliances with positive rated players in this corp / alliance! I already got that you don't like it and thank you for your feedback, all feedback on our feature is the reason we put out the dev blog so early! anyways, it's Friday night and I'm watching a movie (Lars and the real girl) so have a nice evening and weekend space friend! Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs

Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 644	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:17:00 - [596] - Quote Alexander Renoir wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: Alexander Renoir wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: I didn't say it wouldn't be, I said I think it will mostly be used to place bounty on annoying people! but I mean people already gank nice people, do you think they'll start doing so much more of that now if they have bounties on them? also, I'l say it again, your sec status in space doesn't have to say that you're not annoying, you could be super annoying on the forums! ALL you forget is the FACT that my main char is a nice guy who likes to help other players. Now imagine a new player I want to help and who sees my bounty because of some other dumb player gave me a bounty! How should I explain an absolute new player, WITHOUT ANY knowledge of this game, that I really just like to help him? I have 300 Mill ISK bounty on my head. I must be a bad guy. No one will have help from a man with a high bounty. You at CCP do not really play ALL possible situations before you make an decision. So I will stop helping other players. Perhaps I will gank especially new players! Why? I will have alrady bounty on my head after this crap. It is useless to take care of my reputation. ABSOLUTE BAD IDEA CCP! hey I already told you I'm not a game designer, I don't know why you care so much about my opinion on it but I like that you're a nice guy and help new players, it's really cute :3 Punkturis has bounty on her head on TQ now, I hope that doesn't mean people don't see me as a nice person! I just want to tell you.. and ALL other reading DEV's / CCP's that this simple idea of giving bounty to every one is a bad idea and I hope that EXACT my situation will be discussed from the people in power. Good gys MUST be identifiable! Bounty on every one leads to the opinion "You have bounty? You are a bad guy. GO AWAY! NOW!!!" Btw.. that was exact my opinion as i started playing eve. After some (long) time I learned what a crap bounty system CCP has developed.. but the firts weeks I do not wanted to have negative rated persons in my local. Perhaps "placing bounty on every one" is not an idea from CCP. It is the evidence that CCP is unable to bring a better bounty system. If you do NOT implement the ability to place a bounty on a positive rated player; CCP wold be unable to bring bounty on corporations / alliances with positive rated players in this corp / alliance! Sec status, which the old bounties were based on, is NOT an indicator of a "good guy"!!! And if you are teaching that to people, then you are doing them a DISSERVICE... and need to stop!!! A bounty system, where bounties can be placed on you by ANYONE is a far, far better barometer for good and not so good EvE players... Good players, that don't go out of their way to **** other players off, will rarely get bounties on them. Why would they?? I honestly think you're a scammer that is afraid his good guy facade will be ruined when people put a bounty on your head for scamming them.... why else would you be so fearful of this change??

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 5051	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:24:00 - [597] - Quote CCP Punkturis wrote: Jas Dor wrote: Will it be possible to place a bounty on an NPC noob corporation? no you can only place bounty on player corporations But pilot(+ship) in NPC corp right? Else this whole Bounty Hunting concept is broken and utterly useless... GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Follow me on Twitter @Chribba

Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 644	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:28:00 - [598] - Quote Chribba wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: Jas Dor wrote: Will it be possible to place a bounty on an NPC noob corporation? no you can only place bounty on player corporations But pilot(+ship) in NPC corp right? Else this whole Bounty Hunting concept is broken and utterly useless... You can place bounties on a pilot..... Why is the bounty hunting concept broken if you can't place the bounty on a specific ship?
Buffalo Ryder Space Vikings 0	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:30:00 - [599] - Quote There has been too many times that i wanted to put a bounty on my friend's head (now on his ships) but could not because of that -1 sec. now i could if and when these changes are implemented. i might put a bounty on all who post in this thread if i so choose. MOST players won't throw their hard earned isk into bounties unless they have good reason. all ranging from being killed and some mightdo to get some lolz. or maybe a player/corp/alliance wants to take over a ore/ice belt or system and slaps every player/corp/alliance with a bounty in that system and maybe a entice gank player/corp/alliance to run them out or force them to dock up cause of their bounty on them.. anyways risk vs reward is the name of the bounty game. it sandbox style- someone wants to throw sand at your back and people want to throw sand around. ccp just took out the morale of needing you to be bad (negative sec stat). eve is hard and unforgiving no matter WHAT you do.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 5051	Posted - 2012.10.12 19:31:00 - [600] - Quote Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Chribba wrote: CCP Punkturis wrote: Jas Dor wrote: Will it be possible to place a bounty on an NPC noob corporation? no you can only place bounty on player corporations But pilot(+ship) in NPC corp right? Else this whole Bounty Hunting concept is broken and utterly useless... You can place bounties on a pilot..... Why is the bounty hunting concept broken if you can't place the bounty on a specific ship? Just a confirmation about the "no able to hide in NPC corp"-thing. I might have worded myself a bit weird. Clarification: NPC membership does not render you untouchable - is my thought. /c GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Follow me on Twitter @Chribba




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