It's funny you don't realize that the POCO incident - regardless if I wanted them or they were baits, you did them for yourself or as a contract - harmed your reputation even worse than the original scam.

The first scam could be interpreted as honest mistake and/or disagreement over a contract. This can only be interpreted as "if we have a disagreement with a client, we try to force him pay no matter what". Only a complete idiot would hire you after this, since you openly state:
- we interpret contracts as we wish
- you better not disagree with our interpretation or else...

For the day's timers, generally. But after that one fight we got told to stand down.

EDIT: was a very gf. Does OF have video? I remember you guys have some very good vids of previous fights.

For the day's timers, generally. But after that one fight we got told to stand down.

EDIT: was a very gf. Does OF have video? I remember you guys have some very good vids of previous fights.

in the end

noir. ruined they rep by taking a contract from cfc when they were on contract against cfc.

as a former merc, alliance member of noir. (not by choice and they were trolled out shorty after for being ****), this is the end for them and their merc. game. time to pack up shop and find something else to do.

If your correct, and the in your assumption of who the contracts were from than your statement should look like this. "Noir. ruined their rep by taking a contract from goblin when they were on a contract against cfc.

What? I honestly have no idea what you just said.

Goblin's Blogging Company

Sorry, couldn't resist. It's just....just too close to home.

That's adorable but the question still stands why you asked one side if it was "OK" to take another contract but you didn't ask Goblin.

Right off the bat multiple people tried contacting you. They were blocked AND accused of "harvesting tears". Normal course of action is to solve a dispute in a calm, peaceful way. You gave Noir. leadership no alternate route.

The question does not "still stand" it's been answered several times in several places, including this thread and places linked on this thread. I will answer it again though I'm under no illusions you will go away.

Our first contractor had specified he wanted CFC attacked as/after they were ganking. The check was a low key "cool if we can kill them before they gank too" as Goblin's contract incentivized us to get as many of them as possible, including baiting kill rights and hitting them at safe spots etc. Goblin's contract was a simple pay per kill, nothing in it to conflict with.

"For the record, I checked to make sure our first employer would not have a problem with us pursuing CFC more vigorously to earn bounties from another employer (Goblin) and because that employer was not a manic conspiracy theorist he told us to go for it." ~ Alek

Well then even more, if the contract with this other party was in conflict at all, why leak the details and ask if it was OK anyway? So you felt it was in your client's interest to ask if another contract was OK, but you didn't think to ask in Goblin's case?

there's a distinct lack of c&p flame in here, i'm somewhat disappointed aleks

I guess it comes down to an issue of priorities. If you've been contracted to be in Jita fighting against CFC gankers, surely having another job in Jita at that same time creates a priority issue. What happens if at the same time a CFC gank fleet arrives on grid, an anti-CFC war target fleet arrives? Are we really to believe the war target fleet would be ignored? While they're shooting at you?

The situation you created seems unfeasible. Gevlon was not hiring you to simply score Goon-kills-for-ISK; the point of doing so was to have an actual effect against the Goons. By splitting priorities - which includes DEFENDING the Goons - you are clearly working against what is obviously his goal from the contract.

Gevlon has a right to be upset I'd say, but I fully admit such opinion is based off limited information.

Is grr noir a thing yet?

It was a bounty per kill contract and didn't involve us working with other anti-cfc groups. At any rate, none of those fleets even showed up so it never was an issue. Gevlon made the mistake of not giving us a list of blues to work with.

The topic title should be changed to "Noir 2008-2014". You are done

I have never been a fan of NOIR. or Aleks, but the fact that sperging goblin is so mad at them for not being his personal anti-goon pets makes me want to hire them on a regular basis. Bravo chaps.