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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.05.01 07:00:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:I recommend working for Goblin if you want increasingly inventive reasons why he won't pay you once you're done.
Why didnt you tell him you were contracted by goons for burn jita up front? Thats the part I dont get, your not stupid you must have known how he would feel and I cant see how anyone can be surprised to watch him completly lose his **** over this.
I'm genuinely surprised you would write off a client like this then troll him.  is this another goon contract you have? 
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked."
Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Slummy
Kaer Industries
0
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Posted - 2014.05.01 08:54:00 -
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Without delving into battle of spacenerd rage, just a intelligent note to all of you people without slightest clue how real life business works:
in good B2B/consulting business you don't accept even slightly conflicting roles without getting explicit approval of both sides. We had once one lawyer firm that thought it can do something similar; they were fired the next day.
There is also such thing as 'substance over form'. Google. |
Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
6
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Posted - 2014.05.01 09:33:00 -
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Ok sorry about this just another inconsistency with Noir 'contracts' they may want to plug. I don't know how anyboby in Noir knew what to shoot so the shoot everything was probably best.
Isabela Valentine wrote:
'No details of the contract were forwarded to the original contractor, nor was the name ever given. The only thing passed on was that we would be shooting them too. A Burn Everyone type of deal. They seemed cool with it....'
and later Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
'1 and 3 is the same contract. I know this is very difficult to follow, but we got hired BY THE SAME PERSON to shoot ganking CFCers
AND
wait for it
AND shoot people war decing GSF. At the same time. Like one after the other after the other. All weekend.'
So according to Isabela they contacted the original client to ask if they could shoot them too which according to Alek was already the original contract? 'A burn everyone type of deal' so to speak but didn't Alek state it was that already?
'They seemed cool with it....' - I bet they were it was according to less than truthful Alek was the original contract.
Also 'that we would be shooting them too'. Who is them, Alek tells us that them is 'CFCers' so Noir was working for the goons maybe?
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
116
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Posted - 2014.05.01 11:58:00 -
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So here's an example then. Lets say I hire Noir and pursuit of happiness to clear out all the custom offices around dodixie so I can get a nice monoply rolling there. lets say for a 20 system radius. Now the carebears aren't happy and organise other merc corp for defense that's why I need the 2 of you. So we come to the big battle of Dodixie we all show up 200 aside, then Noir start shooting pursuit of happiness as well and pod me.
"hey we shot your enemies too... would you like help organising your payment plan?"
I hope you understand how this looks. Im not saying gevlons handling it well, hes appears to have gone off the deep end again, but surely you can see he has a point Noir? I do.
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked."
Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Isabela Valentine
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
15
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:22:00 -
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You poor thing Joseph. Reading comprehension lvl 1 is not a long train. I highly recommend it. |
Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
9
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:44:00 -
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Isabela Valentine wrote:You poor thing Joseph. Reading comprehension lvl 1 is not a long train. I highly recommend it.
Has Scamming Lvl5 always been required for Noir memembership or is it just a new thing? |
Jake Patton
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
68
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:54:00 -
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Joseph Soprano wrote:Has Scamming Lvl5 always been required for Noir memembership or is it just a new thing?
Is utter stupidity required to join Lemmings? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5608
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Posted - 2014.05.01 12:56:00 -
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Joseph Soprano wrote:Isabela Valentine wrote:You poor thing Joseph. Reading comprehension lvl 1 is not a long train. I highly recommend it. Has Scamming Lvl5 always been required for Noir memembership or is it just a new thing?
How do you scam someone who refused to pay you?
I mean, it's fairly obvious that at best Goblin has a "not satisfactory" complaint. It looks a lot more like "Goblin tried to scam Noir, got caught and is now kicking up a smokescreen".
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
173
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:16:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
How do you scam someone who refused to pay you?
They scammed me therefore I refused to pay them. Honestly, I thought that when I post their actions, they claim "misunderstandings", apologize and I never see them again. Instead they demanded their "payment" and issued threats. Hence: titan bounty.
I wanted to hit Goons as hard as possible during Burn Jita. I considered jamming covered by Noir. I considered small-gang PvP covered as even I could beat Goons in small gang PvP despite it was literally the first day I attacked a ship that could shoot back.
Both considerations were false because of the lies of Noir. They didn't jam any Goons and they were the small-gang PvP squad of Goons. This significantly decreased my results in Burn Jita, actually I ended up worse by hiring Noir than I would if they never existed, while formally they were my mercs.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Isabela Valentine
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
16
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:19:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joseph Soprano wrote:Isabela Valentine wrote:You poor thing Joseph. Reading comprehension lvl 1 is not a long train. I highly recommend it. Has Scamming Lvl5 always been required for Noir memembership or is it just a new thing? How do you scam someone who refused to pay you? I mean, it's fairly obvious that at best Goblin has a "not satisfactory" complaint. It looks a lot more like "Goblin tried to scam Noir, got caught and is now kicking up a smokescreen".
Also, if we had scamming trained to lvl 5 we would have taken the money BEFORE "scamming" him. News flash, we didn't scam him and he's just being upset about it. Either way, no one cares. Gevlon can try to find our Titan but anyone who bothers will just be wasting their time.
Everyone who is spectating, eating their buttery popcorn, and wearing their ugly 3D glasses will enjoy the show. The best is still to come ;) |
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Futune Circinus
Merchants Trade Consortium
The Last Chancers.
13
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:26:00 -
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This is not about the letter of the contract. That is irrelevant as we have no legal system to try it in. This is about public perception and professional courtesy. To the public, there is no doubt that you knew what the Goblin thought he was buying, and yet you did not inform him that this was not what you intended to deliver.
The reality of this claim is irrelevant, the cat is out of the bag, and the public is now worried that you might try to somehow screw them over on a technicality. "You hired us to defend the pos when it came out of reinforce, and we did defend it by destroying the attacking fleet, but you didn't include a clause saying that we couldn't also shoot the pos!" and variations.
The fact that public opinion is with the Goblin, one of the least popular people in Eve, in this matter should be a huge warning sign. You need to approach this not as a contractual disagreement but a PR disaster. The extortion attempt did not improve things, to the public this looks like an admission of guilt.
I know this is none of my business, but I like your brand, and I recently pointed a new player that wanted to become a merc towards your academy. Don't mess this up please. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5608
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:29:00 -
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Futune, from my own point of view as someone who is not only not affiliated with NOIR, but has traded ammo with them on another character on numerous occasions...
How on earth do you think public opinion is against them? What basis do you have for that? And did you actually read the evemail transcripts that got posted?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
1450
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:30:00 -
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Futune Circinus wrote:The reality of this claim is irrelevant
Good to know where you stand rofl
For everyone else, there's reality.
"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."
-Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM
Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5608
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:35:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
How do you scam someone who refused to pay you?
They scammed me therefore I refused to pay them. Honestly, I thought that when I post their actions, they claim "misunderstandings", apologize and I never see them again. Instead they demanded their "payment" and issued threats. Hence: titan bounty. I wanted to hit Goons as hard as possible during Burn Jita. I considered jamming covered by Noir. I considered small-gang PvP covered as even I could beat Goons in small gang PvP despite it was literally the first day I attacked a ship that could shoot back. Both considerations were false because of the lies of Noir. They didn't jam any Goons and they were the small-gang PvP squad of Goons. This significantly decreased my results in Burn Jita, actually I ended up worse by hiring Noir than I would if they never existed, while formally they were my mercs.
Is that what you're saying to salve your wounds? Eh, I suppose whatever excuse makes the hurt go away.
Your post really reminds me of something, by the way. It's almost the same content and general tone of a guy I suicide ganked in a Mackinaw about two weeks ago. Especially the "hence the bounty" statement. Then I realized something.
You're really just a carebear. Granted, you're a great big huge one with a nigh bottomless wallet, but you're a carebear lashing out at everything else around you nonetheless.
Introspection bro. Get some.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
9
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Posted - 2014.05.01 14:46:00 -
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Isabela Valentine wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joseph Soprano wrote:Isabela Valentine wrote:You poor thing Joseph. Reading comprehension lvl 1 is not a long train. I highly recommend it. Has Scamming Lvl5 always been required for Noir memembership or is it just a new thing? How do you scam someone who refused to pay you? I mean, it's fairly obvious that at best Goblin has a "not satisfactory" complaint. It looks a lot more like "Goblin tried to scam Noir, got caught and is now kicking up a smokescreen". Also, if we had scamming trained to lvl 5 we would have taken the money BEFORE "scamming" him. News flash, we didn't scam him and he's just being upset about it. Either way, no one cares. Gevlon can try to find our Titan but anyone who bothers will just be wasting their time. Everyone who is spectating, eating their buttery popcorn, and wearing their ugly 3D glasses will enjoy the show. The best is still to come ;)
Never said you were good scammers. Btw no one cares about your little titan so relax :).
'The best is still to come' - You actually manage to scam someone using your dodge contracts or is it the old dual client scam? I must admit I'm intrigued. :) |
Oshia Launay
Galactic Fringe Inc
24
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Posted - 2014.05.01 16:32:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Futune, from my own point of view as someone who is not only not affiliated with NOIR, but has traded ammo with them on another character on numerous occasions...
How on earth do you think public opinion is against them? What basis do you have for that? And did you actually read the evemail transcripts that got posted?
Dunno about the public at large, but as a player entirely uninvolved in any of this and who does not care about Goons, Gevlon etc, and having read both sides of the story, I think it reflects very badly on Noir. I'd never hire mercs who are known to take on conflicting jobs and play not-screwing-you-over-was-not-in-the-contract afterwards.
Merc 101:
1) you don't work for both sides, ever.
2) see rule 1
3) reputation is everything
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries
Order of the Exalted
510
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Posted - 2014.05.01 17:11:00 -
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Oshia Launay wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Futune, from my own point of view as someone who is not only not affiliated with NOIR, but has traded ammo with them on another character on numerous occasions...
How on earth do you think public opinion is against them? What basis do you have for that? And did you actually read the evemail transcripts that got posted? Dunno about the public at large, but as a player entirely uninvolved in any of this and who does not care about Goons, Gevlon etc, and having read both sides of the story, I think it reflects very badly on Noir. I'd never hire mercs who are known to take on conflicting jobs and play not-screwing-you-over-was-not-in-the-contract afterwards. Merc 101: 1) you don't work for both sides, ever. 2) see rule 1 3) reputation is everything
^This^
I would be very hesitant to hire Noir after this incident, and I found it hilarious that Gelvon's anti-goon scheme failed. Perhaps he should hire CODE. in the future. Gelvon, contact me next year and I'll jam one ganker for free.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
1451
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Posted - 2014.05.01 17:20:00 -
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Oshia Launay wrote:[quote=Kaarous Aldurald]I'd never hire mercs who are known to take on conflicting jobs
Nor should you, but as you'll notice neither Goblin nor his supporters can articulate what the conflicting jobs were without A. Inventing a third contract we had which involved protecting Goonswarm or B. Overlooking the fact Goblin withheld important information from us about his involvement with other groups
It's important to remember when hiring Noir. or any other merc that they're often only as familiar with your cause, coalition, or plans as you make them. It's considered unreasonable to expect them to "just know" where you have alts, who your blues are, whether those blues know to work with you or if they will shoot you, and if you've got other operations or deals going on.
The only alternative to that understanding is having the mercs get the APIs for all of your accounts and put an alt into your corp before taking your contract. While I'm sure PL's spy network might be good enough for that to be no big deal, it would be prohibitive for little guys like us.
"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."
-Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM
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Bayonnefrog
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2014.05.01 17:21:00 -
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This thread should be retitled to: "When Nerds Collide" |
Van Ishez
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.01 18:19:00 -
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Don't really know whether all this happened due to poor communication or intentional misunderstandings.
In real life there are multiple occasions where the customer asks for something, but in reality wants something else.
Now if they go to court they will look at the contract and see that the customer wanted A and got A, clear case.
However an old saying is that an unhappy customer will tell about his experience to 10 people, a happy customer will tell about his experience to one person.
In real life, (eve may differ?) it's not about following or not following the contract, it's about making customers happy. |
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Bayonnefrog
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2014.05.01 18:35:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:A quote from Noir's site: Quote:When NMG is hired to do a job, whatever that job may be, there are parameters. Those parameters differ with every contract. One time it may be that we're only allowed to count any kills made within a certain area. Maybe we're only able to count kills from a certain organization, or maybe we're simply hired to make life for the occupants as difficult as possible. To even have a hope of accomplishing any of these parameters, there is a ton of planning, coordination, and effort involved. The logistics of moving an entire alliance every few weeks to accomplish drastically different goals each time is not something to be taken for granted. Once the "boots hit the ground", the work hasn't just begun - it's simply one step in the process, and one of the last step, I might add. At the end of the contract, the true test of a mercenary's worth is how pleased the employer is.
I am so pleased with the honesty, straightforwardness and proficiency of Noir during our Burn Jita contract that I just placed 20B bounty (about 10x more than these fine mercenaries want from me) on their titan. EVE-O post about the bounty comes when Chribba (or other trusted third party) verifies my deposit of the 20B. I fully recommend hiring Noir if you consider it OK to
- Disclose your contract with the target
- Ask the permission of the target to take it
- Officially allying with the target (using the in-game ally join in war feature)
- Kill your own alt trying to do the job, saving a target in deep armor
- Not doing any harm to the target, just whoring on Concord kills with 1-2% damage, just as the target approved
But maybe the quote has a honest mistype and should read "the true test of a mercenary's worth is how pleased the target is". This case they are the most awesome mercs in EVE since Powers (Goon leader in Burn Jita, Goons were the contract target) is praising and defending their conduct on every forum like he was their lawyer. Edit: to save you the time commenting:  YES, I'M MAD!!!
I think this is known in the gaming community as "nerd rage."
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Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
9
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Posted - 2014.05.01 19:03:00 -
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Van Ishez wrote:Don't really know whether all this happened due to poor communication or intentional misunderstandings.
In real life there are multiple occasions where the customer asks for something, but in reality wants something else.
Now if they go to court they will look at the contract and see that the customer wanted A and got A, clear case.
However an old saying is that an unhappy customer will tell about his experience to 10 people, a happy customer will tell about his experience to one person.
In real life, (eve may differ?) it's not about following or not following the contract, it's about making customers happy.
Edit: And yes, sometimes making the customer happy requires almost psychic skills....
They knew he wasn't happy on Friday 25.04.14
From: Gevlon Goblin
Sent: 2014.04.25 11:31
To: Alekseyev Karrde,
Hi,
War: Darwins Lemmings vs. Goonswarm Federation
War: The Marmite Collective vs. Goonswarm Federation
I see you in both of the wars as ally to the Goons.
What the hell is going on? We were negotiating a contract against Goons. I thought such double-crossing clients is bad for business. I really hope it was just an act of a rogue director.
Nothing psychic about it he was set up.
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Oshia Launay
Galactic Fringe Inc
24
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Posted - 2014.05.01 19:24:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Oshia Launay wrote:I'd never hire mercs who are known to take on conflicting jobs Nor should you, but as you'll notice neither Goblin nor his supporters can articulate what the conflicting jobs were without A. Inventing a third contract which involved protecting Goonswarm during the event and for which our 25b in CFC kills was a smokescreen or B. Overlooking the fact Goblin withheld important information from us about his involvement with other groups and withheld his expectation we would work with the group we did not know he was still leading
There was conflict of interest the second Noir agreed to work for clients who have mutually exclusive goals, as Goons and Gevlon have, regardless of who Gevlon worked with or the fine print in the contracts..
Quote:It's important to remember when hiring Noir. or any other merc that they're often only as familiar with your cause, coalition, or plans as you make them. It's considered unreasonable to expect them to "just know" where you have alts, who your blues are, whether those blues know to work with you or if they will shoot you, and if you've got other operations or deals going on.
Ignorance is going to be a bit of a hard sell, given that Noir worked for Gevlon previously and that he's made his vendetta, his goals, and his involvement with other groups public knowledge. Can't have been much of a surprise to find out that Lemmings or Marmite were shooting Goons for Gevlon.
Even assuming ignorance, it only became an issue because Noir agreed to work both for Goons and Gevlon, which Noir damn well shouldn't have done in the first place. If Noir was acting in good faith, it should be apologizing profusely to its client, instead of playing the legalese card, shifting the blame and demanding payment. |
Reppyk
The Black Shell
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
564
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:16:00 -
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I didn't read all of this drama, but it seems that both sides broke the contract, and each multiple times.
Gevlon :
- revealed the contract ;
- didn't paid the isks for the pods and the jams (wtf is this contract anyway ? a joke ?) ;
Noir. :
- revealed the contract too (never, ever do that, even if the customer did it first) ;
- made a shady deal with the target (allying against Lemmings, really ? there is no excuse) ;
I am too lazy (and I don't give much of a ****, too) to check the KBs, if there was good faith running the contract or not.
I'm throwing virtual poo at both of you.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3312
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:20:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:They scammed me therefore I refused to pay them. Honestly, I thought that when I post their actions, they claim "misunderstandings", apologize and I never see them again. Instead they demanded their "payment" and issued threats. Hence: titan bounty. You didn't get scammed at all. You hired Noir to kill/ECM goons (which you were pretty non-specific about). They did that. Contract completed. In addition to that the were hired completely separately by goons to shoot groups that were shooting them. Prior to accepting your contract, they checked with goons if it would be OK for them to shoot goons too, since that would technically make them a target of their own initial contract, to which the goons said it was fine to process, so they accepted your contract in good faith. They had absolutely no reason to inform you about their contract from the goons since it was completely irrelevant to your bounty contract. Them killing lemmings/marmite in Jita has absolutely no impact on them killing goons in Jita.
If you'd wanted them to not kill lemmings/marmite, you should have hired them for that. If they had been shooting goons and were just shooting marmite/lemmings for the hell of it, the situation would be the same and you would still be flipping out about them hitting "your guys" (who you publicly claimed to be unaffiliated with). At the end of the day this boils down to you setting expectations on a contract which you never asked for. You offered them a bounty, then expected them to be your personal minions. That's not how mercenaries work mate.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
1452
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:23:00 -
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Reppyk wrote:I
Noir. :
- revealed the contract too (never, ever do that, even if the customer did it first) ;
- made a shady deal with the target (allying against Lemmings, really ? there is no excuse) ;
I am too lazy (and I don't give much of a ****, too) to check the KBs, if there was good faith running the contract or not.
I'm throwing virtual poo at both of you.
-We didn't reveal the contract till Goblin went off the handle declaring he would not pay and blocking (literally in game, not allowed to contact him at all) any attempt to discuss the issue. At that point he's a scammer not a customer and is being treated accordingly
-We didn't make any deals with the target(s).
I would agree with you 1000% Reppy if either of those things were the case. I've been in the biz over 8 years, I know what not to do.
You should check the kb ;) In good faith to both clients we put CFC through hell.
"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."
-Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
1452
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:27:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:[quote=Gevlon Goblin] In addition to that the were hired completely separately by goons to shoot groups that were shooting them. Prior to accepting your contract, they checked with goons if it would be OK for them to shoot goons too
We were not hired by Goons and we did not check with Goons. We were hired by a private individual, who has allowed me to say that much and discuss some of his contract details because he thinks Goblin is being a douchebag.
The contract with that individual specified we were to shoot Goons after they went GCC for ganks. He was checked with more or less like this: "Someone's offering isk for every Goon killed during Burn Jita. You mind if we attack them before/after ganks too so we can try get some of that?"
"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."
-Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM
Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Van Ishez
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:35:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
The contract with that individual specified we were to shoot Goons after they went GCC for ganks. He was checked with more or less like this: "Someone's offering isk for every Goon killed during Burn Jita. You mind if we attack them before/after ganks too so we can try get some of that?"
Sounds reasonable.
I assume that the person offering the later contract was also told that someone else is already having a contract to kill Goons?
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1233
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:37:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules:
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
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Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Reppyk
The Black Shell
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
564
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:47:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:-We didn't reveal the contract till Stop right here. You know we have (had ?) our own way of dealing with ex-customers/scammers.
You should never speak in details about the contract.
Reminds' me the old Agerol drama : flying poo all over the place.
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:-We didn't make any deals with the target(s). I wasn't clear. You made a deal (joining GSF as an ally) that was directly interfering with another contract.
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:I would agree with you 1000% Reppy if either of those things were the case. I've been in the biz over 8 years, I know what not to do. I'm not the "merc judge", that's just the point of view of someone that was a merc (a somewhat long time ago) and has always respect all his deals.
Your KB is not working for me (but that satanic islandic wifi isn't working well too  ).
I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK.
-áI AM A LOWSEC GANKER, HIGHSEC SCUM, NULLSEC BASTARD, WORMHOLE INVADER.
Welcome to, welcome to, welcome to my scramble. GÖÑ |
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