The day that all the so called griefers and gankers quit Eve is the day that Eve ceases to be Eve and becomes just another generic MMO that just happens to be set in space. The fact that Eve is harsh and full of people that will destroy your pixels for shiggles, war or RP reasons is what makes it pretty much unique. Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

Yes, everybody but those affected should do something about it.

I AM OUTRAEG!!!

Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

Not sure I understand you. On the first glimp I was happy that somebody will bring the anarchy and destruction down to hi sec. But reading the so called code... they actually protect the miners and wanna bring peace and harmony back to hi sec .They are a power flower gang. We must gank them before they turn the whole hi-sec into a love-sec.

Just another group of griefers mad that others in highsec won't play the way they want them to play.

Let us turn that on it's head because that statement plays out both ways.

"Just another group of carebears mad that others in highsec won't play the way they want them to play."

The difference being carebears and miners do not actively or negatively impact the playstyle of gankers and griefers, who are only looking for tears most of the time.

The difference being carebears and miners do not actively or negatively impact the playstyle of gankers and griefers, who are only looking for tears most of the time.

Really? So the barge buff, which primarily came about because of miners whining, didn't negatively impact the playstyle of "gankers"?

Nope. They should go to low or null where they belong to find targets actually willing to fight back.

I swear, I would be laughing so hard at the drama on these boards if CONCORD was buffed to make ganking in highsec so much harder.

I applaud your efforts, if only to ensure that poseurs do not gain a foothold in the game. James and his ilk are just that, poseurs, too gripped by fear to pull the trigger for what they believe in. While I do not hold his sycophants in contemptuous position, he himself is a false leader who puffs out his chest and meekly roars to the galaxy of his prowess and how he believes he is doing a service to the community. James, a moment... This isn't WoW, mmmkay? Either turn off your safeties and engage those you feel dilute the game with hot rounds and burning lasers, or be quiet. Bumping is a tactic of the weak and the indecisive. This is Eve, either gank or go home. I respect and even applaud those who have the courage and intestinal fortitude to accept the consequences of actions that they believe in, but I can never give one ounce of recognition to those who are choked by their own fear.

Safer for now.

I like to think of the barge/exhumer buff as a great first step.

Hisec is not safe, it's safer, Concord are not there to prevent, they are there to punish, if you want to play in complete safety there's this thing called a test server, PvP is consensual there.

I especially love the opening entry of Jame's MinerBumping blog, how he actually believes miners beat their children when they get popped.

Can someone explain to me again why making full use of the game's mechanics to protect yourself is cowardly?

Edit: I've just had a revelation. The reason miners refuse to orbit/stay ATK/fit tanks/position themselves properly/use appropriate ships/mine somewhere else/blow us up/hire mercenaries to blow us up is because it would be cowardly!

This explains so much!