Breaking news from an undisclosed location in New Eden! My undercover informants have obtained an audio recording of a diplomatic negotiation between our Most Honourable Agents and a Danish miner 'Mine Teck', regarding the latter's purchase of counterfeit mining permits sold by unscrupulous rebels. Have a listen - it's an eye-opening (or should I say, ear-opening) experience. Our Agents are courteous and fair - the New Order does not outsource our customer service to random call centers in India!

Soundcloud recording is here.

Blog post with a little contextual information is here.

Isn't the guy above me that's for sure.

Yea no goon would do that.

Perhaps the new order could help miners graduate from high-sec to join low and null-sec corps which can provide them both security and lucrative markets in which to conduct industry.

Perhaps the new order could help miners graduate from high-sec to join low and null-sec corps which can provide them both security and lucrative markets in which to conduct industry.

We helped Moonsong Miner make this exact transition! We're always happy to help miners find enlightenment!

To all the miners who have been the victim of New Order ganking..

Pay attention and take some damn precautions!

So for a little while over several days I'm going around in a Talwar with 7 festival launchers because I'm curious as to miner reactions in light of the huge ragefits when someone loses a ship. So I go to the ice fields and asteroid belts in turn, then I throw some fireworks at various ships. 90% don't react at all because they're AFK or shy or whatever.

The other 10% warp off. Here's the thing though, the sequence of events of the warpers always goes like this:

* Arrive on scene - no reaction
* Lock target - no reaction
* Hit approach and make sure to take my time - no reaction
* Launch fireworks - HOLY CRAP ALIGN AND WARP PANIC PANIC

Also, the number of ice miners I've seen sitting at warp in point.. ugh.

It's hard to feel sympathy for you when you basically sit there waiting for the gank fleet to arrive.

To all the miners who have been the victim of New Order ganking..

Pay attention and take some damn precautions!

So for a little while over several days I'm going around in a Talwar with 7 festival launchers because I'm curious as to miner reactions in light of the huge ragefits when someone loses a ship. So I go to the ice fields and asteroid belts in turn, then I throw some fireworks at various ships. 90% don't react at all because they're AFK or shy or whatever.

The other 10% warp off. Here's the thing though, the sequence of events of the warpers always goes like this:

* Arrive on scene - no reaction
* Lock target - no reaction
* Hit approach and make sure to take my time - no reaction
* Launch fireworks - HOLY CRAP ALIGN AND WARP PANIC PANIC

Also, the number of ice miners I've seen sitting at warp in point.. ugh.

It's hard to feel sympathy for you when you basically sit there waiting for the gank fleet to arrive.

Here's a question for the NEW ORDER folks...

If i'm running 5 accounts on my PC, and 1 account on my laptop doing a mining op chatting in local, ect ect, then also playing DUST with my son on my console, is that considered AFK mining?

Highsec belongs to no one. The moment you start believing something belongs to you in this game, someone will come along and take it from you. Especially ships. People always want to take my ships from me. Even to the point where the thing is falling apart all around me and then I'm in my escape pod!

If you are able to respond to chat requests in local within a reasonable timeframe you will have no problem - provided you are in posession of a mining permit for every character.

I've already stated previously what support (and what specific areas of and requirements for that support) the minerbumping community could/would have from me and it does not include me purchasing a permit from anyone, legit representative of the order or Highwayman variant.

o/
Celly

He just answered your question I think. We are considering tagging folks with multiply macro-ed mining barges as bot-aspirants and asploding them. Hell, asploding them might make it easier to sell permits in the systems they are stripping bare.


As for yourself ...

You have a right to log in and mine without a permit.

We have a right to log in and try to asplode you.

Everyone is a winner!

and yes, you have every right to try to esplode (i fixed that for you) me if you want to,

"Asplode" was the correct reference to Homestar Runner.

hahaha...

No, he didn't and it's a simple yes or no question, wrapping an answer in the veil of the code does not mean it's really being answered. :)

and yes, you have every right to try to esplode (i fixed that for you) me if you want to, if you don't, I'll just add your guns and crap to the huge pile I already have and if you do, then I'll know what it takes to break my tank(s).

and how do you figure they're macro'd?, (for any one out there mining?) I said 5 accounts on one comp, one on a laptop, my comp has multiple monitors and if I am sitting there at the keyboard, talking and moving ore and targeting roids and killing/looting/salvaging rats, how then does that become macro'd? or even AFK or even botting which is what you guys are all about in the first place right?

I mean if you're just going to assume that anyone who has more than one account or anyone that mines is a bot-aspirant, then you're going to be sadly proven wrong time and time again.
and yes, I will clear a belt or two or three by myself on a hard core mining day, all the while chatting in vent, in game and sometimes playing dust too. :P

And they never will answer your question without involving there useless code
Otherwise they'd have to admit what they do is extortion.

We extort healthy player immersion and interaction from bot-aspirant AFK players who don't seem to understand the core concept of MMO

ok, then based on your own statement, if you know that a person is neither "bot-aspirant" nor "AFK" which is easily discernible by simple watching local, then you leave them alone right? I mean, after all, they are already immersed and not a bot or AFK and are participating in the core basics of an MMO...

right?

...the question is does the new order consider running multiple accounts and interacting in game as being AFK or multi-tasking if there's also a side distraction of the console?

and the "provided you are in posession of a mining permit for every character."? well, that's just not going to happen. :P...

And they never will answer your question without involving there useless code
Otherwise they'd have to admit what they do is extortion.

There, they're and their, you only have 3 choices, and you still get it wrong.

Extortion is the (illegal) obtaining of money, goods or services via force, or threat of force. I prefer the term coercion myself, it's an integral part of Eve, AWOXers force corporations to give them medals and isk before they will leave corp, pirates ransom other players' ships and pods every day, the New Order temporarily relocates clones unless you've paid for a permit. All are forms of coercion, and all are implicitly allowed by the very nature of the game we play.