I would be willing to pay for a permit if it did not require my pilot to 'Praise James 315 and his New Order" in my bio.

You can't fight a kamikaze pilot.

Best case, you get a gank fleet together and pre-gank them. Hard to do when they instawarp on undock to a safe spot for ~10-15 seconds then warp to zero on target.

You may take out one ore two before CONCORD shows up but they already planned on losing the ship so you have not changed anything from their point of view.

If we, as miners, could fight back, we would. Most of us have heavily training into *gasp* mining and lack the skills to effectively gank with a decent chance.

Also no matter what, we lose, either our barge / exhumer or whatever we choose to pre-gank you with. The gankers lose the exact same amount of isk / time / profit in either case. No matter what we lose time and for a miner time is money.

I would be willing to pay for a permit if it did not require my pilot to 'Praise James 315 and his New Order" in my bio.

Also I am iffy on their "Concord Manipulation" as being 100% OK with CPP ( Not an exploit, but damn close )

http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/12/ganking-101-concord-manipulation.html

Or spend some isk and hire a few merc corps to interdict everything from Zanitu-Braun and CODEdot.

Much, much, much cheaper to pay us though.

But much, much, much more rewarding to see the lulz of interdiction.

Except, y'know, none of the miners that tried that have ever gotten to see the 'lulz of interdiction'.

Because they never had a single target. Now we do.

No you don't. CODE. is an alliance of ganky alts below -5.0 and dedicated wardeccers. Attacking it will a) not affect the gankers and b) not affect the bumpers. The only effect will be that the wardeccers get targets to fight.

Welp, keeps them busy along with any potential logistics they might have.

But much, much, much more rewarding to see the lulz of interdiction.

We don't have logistics. Our suppliers are completely crowdsourced and all unrelated to the New Order.

Words

Then we'll find them



Brace yourself, Winter is Coming.

You can't fight a kamikaze pilot.

Best case, you get a gank fleet together and pre-gank them. Hard to do when they instawarp on undock to a safe spot for ~10-15 seconds then warp to zero on target.

You may take out one ore two before CONCORD shows up but they already planned on losing the ship so you have not changed anything from their point of view.

If we, as miners, could fight back, we would. Most of us have heavily training into *gasp* mining and lack the skills to effectively gank with a decent chance.

A couple of bad, bad posts.

Well...now that Salvador has given up, Anslo has no competition as 'Supreme Rebel Commander'.

Hmmmmm.

Didn't take long for the Rebel Cause to start the inevitable infighting, it seems.

Brace yourself, Winter is Coming.

The problem is, at the minute from what i've seen is that those fighting fire with fire are ineffective because there going directly after the ganking accounts which don't really matter.

Now what they do have are there so called agents who go about in fleet issue stabbers. Target those as there worth a lot more than the throw away destroyers they use to gank and expect to loose anyway.

Or spend some isk and hire a few merc corps to interdict everything from Zanitu-Braun and CODEdot.

One of the miners I ganked made a killright available on me! /o\

An industry based corporation would do well to find a group like James & Co. to help keep botters out of their systems and by working out something like "Ok, here's 500m, this should fund your group for a while and our guys are perma blue, if you need **** built, let us know, we have (insert POS equipment or building skills here) and can help you keep stocked up to the best of our abilities."

Tell them what you need them to provide in the way of materials for what they want built and WIN!

Brace yourself, Winter is Coming.

Hey guys, I found a new site online!

Please check it out at: http://noneworderineve.com/

I know it's not much to look at yet but it's a start and it is being worked on.

My name is Spionkop, I been supporting a lost cause for too long, like my sleeping giant of a team I am waking up, I have a new role in Eve.

Hey guys, I found a new site online!

Please check it out at: http://noneworderineve.com/

I know it's not much to look at yet but it's a start and it is being worked on.

Petitions fall of deaf ears at CCP, we have yet to receive a positive response to any petition with CCP quoting the usual crap about Eve being a sandbox.