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Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:19:00 -
[541] - Quote
Syaran wrote:
If all you miners are so angry that you're getting killed, why not do something about it? This is EVE, you have a wealth of options at your disposal. You could organise yourselves to safeguard you from getting ganked, you could mine somewhere else, hell, you might even consider actually fitting a combat ship and putting up some sort of an actual fight.
Truer words were never spoken.
Obviously no one expects a miner to be a PvPer, but, if you're flying a hulk already, then you should have no problem flying this and having almost 5 times the tank.
Skiff
Rigs: 2 x Medium Core defense field extender II
High Slot: 1 x Mod strip miner II with your crystal of choice (preferably T2 crystals)
Mids: 2x Invuln field II 1x EM ward field II 1x meta 4 shield extender 1 x Survey Scanner II (if you don't care about wasting cycles, change the last 2 to something to make your tank bigger)
Lows: 1 x MLU II 1 x DCU II
Drones: 5 x Hobbie II 5 x Salvage drone
or 5 x Hammi IIs
Bigger ORE bay than hulk, almost the same pull, almost 90k HP without boosts of any sort (fleet or anything else) and that's on my armor toon.. my shield toon has 99k almost with same fit.
not "ungankable" by any stretch of the imagination, but it's survivability by far exceeds any other mining barge I can think of off the top of my head and if you're gonna get ganked in one, at least they'll have to work for it.
Just a thought.
o/ Celly
Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |

Kuseka Adama
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.01.17 05:28:00 -
[542] - Quote
Cant use the solution i'd like thats for sure.
I'd love the clearence to set up a ******* hictor in one of these systems right along a primary warp route in. Or just at the 500 km mark outside a field. Ever see a drop warp ambush? One of the greatest things in the world if you do it right.
But lets face facts. James 315 is a 'former' goonswarm member. Goons Set the table for the CSM and once again are pushing their agenda against high sec through. So really what should happen is an entire ceasing of mining operations and a deluge of just random violence with people not caring how much money is lost and just murder anyone and anything in null and low.
I have very little faith that any of this can actually be 'stopped' until CCP decides to clean up its game. *shrug* Maybe i wont buy that plex next month |

Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:46:00 -
[543] - Quote
Kuseka Adama wrote: I'd love the clearence to set up a ******* hictor in one of these systems right along a primary warp route in. Or just at the 500 km mark outside a field. Ever see a drop warp ambush? One of the greatest things in the world if you do it right.
Easy to avoid a lone HIC, as there are no shortage of 'warp routes' into an ice field. Keep rattling your saber, mighty miner!
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Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
442
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:39:00 -
[544] - Quote
LeHerp Aggin wrote:It's about time someone has stood up to these clowns. They've tried to extort me several times, but to no avail. Noone should interfere with how i want to play Eve in High Sec.
But thats how THEY want to play in hisec.
Whats makes your desire to play in a certain way greater than theirs?
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Eyana Starstruck
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.01.17 11:07:00 -
[545] - Quote
Aw it was lovely reading these posts. 
I would like to first address the superhero link, that is a funny one, how can you call yourself superheros when you extort the "common citizen" for money, I can't say that I saw any of the superheros extorting the citizens they protect for money? Superheros go for the bad guys, in this case bots (don't give me that "and bot-aspirants", since we both know that is just an excuse) they don't extort the law abiding citizens of the respectful world (in eve the non bot users).
You call agent eunoli is very successful in her conversion and talk with blasters, yet there is no mention of her in kill-mails with any other of you pawns. 
One person mentioned that they scouted some of your liberated systems and found a bot miners doing their thing freely, wonder how they escaped the "punishment" from the order, or were you just told that the area was clear and to move to another one which you did like good little pawns you are? (how cute) 
Emperor Crash, can you really expect anything grown up and dignified from people that don't even realize they are nothing but tools being used so that their contractors can cash in some big profits. When did you see in any movie of minions being able to have a mature conversation? 
Well yeah, they are disposable since some of them have already been retired and are not being used or are rarely used, some of the "agents" were inactive for months or years and they suddenly now jump back into action, if they were not used before they will become unused again after a short period of time.  |

Lin Suizei
66
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Posted - 2013.01.17 12:05:00 -
[546] - Quote
Eyana Starstruck wrote:Well yeah, they are disposable since some of them have already been retired and are not being used or are rarely used, some of the "agents" were inactive for months or years and they suddenly now jump back into action, if they were not used before they will become unused again after a short period of time. 
Wow, look at that, an action that's not against the rules!
My contractors are no doubt waiting for you to actually achieve something, anything, with your brave, brave posting. Do your part for a better Highsec tomorrow - kill an AFK miner today! |

Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
131
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Posted - 2013.01.17 12:10:00 -
[547] - Quote
Kuseka Adama wrote: *shrug* Maybe i wont buy that plex next month
Then do it. Vote with your "wallet" I'd love to see everyone who says this follow though to see actual numbers. It would be interesting I think. |

Eyana Starstruck
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.01.17 12:23:00 -
[548] - Quote
He wrote some other things so don't take this out of context or as a sign of confession.
Runeme Shilter wrote:
...we are using disposable alts and biomass them after they reached a certain secstatus/reputation/whatever, please file a petition - as that would be against the EULA.
Nighty night!
RS
If you don't trust me at least trust one of your fellow pawns.
So little minion using disposable alts just for ganking is a violation of EULA. 
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Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.01.17 12:33:00 -
[549] - Quote
Eyana Starstruck wrote:He wrote some other things so don't take this out of context or as a sign of confession.Runeme Shilter wrote:
...we are using disposable alts and biomass them after they reached a certain secstatus/reputation/whatever, please file a petition - as that would be against the EULA.
Nighty night!
RS
If you don't trust me at least trust one of your fellow pawns. So little minion using disposable alts just for ganking is a violation of EULA. 
I see you've added 'selective and dishonest quoting' to your repertoire of tricks, along with 'rambling' and 'failure to comprehend or provide good arguments'.
"If you have any proof for your claim that we are using disosable alts and biomass them after they reached a certain secstatus/reputation/whatever, please file a petition - as that would be against the EULA. |

Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics CODE.
9
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Posted - 2013.01.17 12:39:00 -
[550] - Quote
Eyana Starstruck wrote:He wrote some other things so don't take this out of context or as a sign of confession.Runeme Shilter wrote:
If you have any proof for your claim that we are using disposable alts and biomass them after they reached a certain secstatus/reputation/whatever, please file a petition - as that would be against the EULA.
Nighty night!
RS
If you don't trust me at least trust one of your fellow pawns. So little minion using disposable alts just for ganking is a violation of EULA. 
I see you fail at reading english. That's not bad per se, I do sometimes have a problem catching the nuances and idioms too. But, please, at least make a good try at understaning what I wrote.
RS |

Eyana Starstruck
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:28:00 -
[551] - Quote
Well I guess you are the ones that fail at reading since I did write 1st and bolded it so people can see it 1st
He wrote some other things so don't take this out of context or as a sign of confession.
Silly minions.  |

Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:42:00 -
[552] - Quote
Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Lin Suizei wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Because of my ego, I prefer to place my mining efficiency at risk, when I could mine peacefully by paying 10M ISK and following some simple rules. i'm butthurt Now this I really have to laugh at that cause for me to be butthurt would of required me have been killed by you and your goons which hasn't happen, I am an advocate for all miners under oppression. |

Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics CODE.
11
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:42:00 -
[553] - Quote
Eyana Starstruck wrote:Well I guess you are the ones that fail at reading since I did write 1st and bolded it so people can see it 1st He wrote some other things so don't take this out of context or as a sign of confession.Silly minions. 
Ah, of course, the popular "I didn't mean what I wrote/said/did" excuse. You sure are a special little someone.
RS |

Eyana Starstruck
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:43:00 -
[554] - Quote
I didn't mean what I wrote/said excuse? What are you talking about? I meant every word I said and I never backed down from anything I said, unlike you minions.  |

Silus Morde
7
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Posted - 2013.01.17 14:56:00 -
[555] - Quote
Celly Smunt wrote:Syaran wrote:
If all you miners are so angry that you're getting killed, why not do something about it? This is EVE, you have a wealth of options at your disposal. You could organise yourselves to safeguard you from getting ganked, you could mine somewhere else, hell, you might even consider actually fitting a combat ship and putting up some sort of an actual fight.
Truer words were never spoken. Obviously no one expects a miner to be a PvPer, but, if you're flying a hulk already, then you should have no problem flying this and having almost 5 times the tank. Skiff Rigs: 2 x Medium Core defense field extender II High Slot: 1 x Mod strip miner II with your crystal of choice (preferably T2 crystals) Mids: 2x Invuln field II 1x EM ward field II 1x meta 4 shield extender 1 x Survey Scanner II (if you don't care about wasting cycles, change the last 2 to something to make your tank bigger) Lows: 1 x MLU II 1 x DCU II Drones: 5 x Hobbie II 5 x Salvage drone or 5 x Hammi IIs Bigger ORE bay than hulk, almost the same pull, almost 90k HP without boosts of any sort (fleet or anything else) and that's on my armor toon.. my shield toon has 99k almost with same fit. not "ungankable" by any stretch of the imagination, but it's survivability by far exceeds any other mining barge I can think of off the top of my head and if you're gonna get ganked in one, at least they'll have to work for it. Just a thought. o/ Celly thanks for the fit, was thinking of skiff and appreciate the fit. Fly safe.
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Overly Complex Security Innovations
5122
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Posted - 2013.01.17 18:17:00 -
[556] - Quote
Eyana Starstruck wrote:Well I guess you are the ones that fail at reading since I did write 1st and bolded it so people can see it 1st He wrote some other things so don't take this out of context or as a sign of confession.Silly minions. 
Your disclaimer makes no difference to the fact that you selectively and maliciously manipulated the quote concerned to make it appear that the poster was in breach of the EULA, have you considered journalism or politics as a career?
I'm still waiting for the proof that the New Order are taking money from a bot mining operation and that they recycle gank alts, which is a breach of the EULA.
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid. The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth, it's how effectively you can bend others to your will. |

Kuseka Adama
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:10:00 -
[557] - Quote
Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Kuseka Adama wrote: I'd love the clearence to set up a ******* hictor in one of these systems right along a primary warp route in. Or just at the 500 km mark outside a field. Ever see a drop warp ambush? One of the greatest things in the world if you do it right.
If you want to put bubbles in Highsec, you would get CONCORDed when you aggress an illegal target because they tried to initiate warp from inside your bubble. Admittedly, that would be pretty hilarious.
This is something i'd love to see change. They want to gank like this we should be able to defend in ways OTHER than running. Five dominix with sentry drones another long range battleships and a few frigates+cruisers and you'd see one very dead fleet.
This is why i CANT set up a hictor bubble by the way. |

Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:17:00 -
[558] - Quote
Silus Morde wrote: thanks for the fit, was thinking of skiff and appreciate the fit. Fly safe.
you're quite welcome, and you too.
o/ Celly Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |

Eyana Starstruck
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:31:00 -
[559] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Your disclaimer makes no difference to the fact that you selectively and maliciously manipulated the quote concerned to make it appear that the poster was in breach of the EULA, have you considered journalism or politics as a career?
I'm still waiting for the proof that the New Order are taking money from a bot mining operation and that they recycle gank alts, which is a breach of the EULA.
It was never my intention to be malicious in any way, it just happens to look that way because of whole post of his I only needed that part where he is talking about disposable alts being breach of EULA but then again I did go far enough not to confuse people and wrote in bold letters and added 3 dots before that sentence which also started with a lower case letter, and since I don't find eve players illiterate and unable to read properly concluded safely there won't be any misunderstandings. However so that there will be no chance of misunderstandings I will edit that post and put the whole quote in there.
I do not stoop down that low to change and ridicule the original quotes of the differ minded people like these minions do...
Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Lin Suizei wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Because of my ego, I prefer to place my mining efficiency at risk, when I could mine peacefully by paying 10M ISK and following some simple rules. i'm butthurt
I have no need to taint myself in such manner. 
Well for them taking money from a bot mining operation concrete proof is bit hard to get however I visited the "liberated" systems and I have to say bots are still there, good % of them are Russians, about 70 players per ice field in there and at tries to start convos only a couple answered not to mention that all the new order mining permit holders did not respond which I found very interesting. Well this was just my 1st random visit to see are there really some changes so didn't take any pictures but next time I will make sure I bring a camera. 
Now for the disposable alts well when you check new order logistics corp and their kill mails you can immediately see that 2 names for now, Agent Tivianne and Gladius Codicis had kills and were involved into miner kills have not entered a single fight in 2013, but as time passes toons like this will rise in numbers as their usefulness disappears.  |

Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:01:00 -
[560] - Quote
Kuseka Adama wrote: This is something i'd love to see change. They want to gank like this we should be able to defend in ways OTHER than running. Five dominix with sentry drones another long range battleships and a few frigates+cruisers and you'd see one very dead fleet.
This is why i CANT set up a hictor bubble by the way.
Plenty of ways to defend against ganks. 1) Remove yourself from a system frequented by gankers 2) D-scan and alignment to escape 3) Kill gankers early with high-alpha ships 4) Remove ganker dps with ecm and tracking disruption 5) Increase target survivability with tanking, ganglinks, logistics 6) Decrease ISK price of your ship and fittings, to make you a less attractive target |

Agent Trask
Aliastra Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:20:00 -
[561] - Quote
Eyana Starstruck wrote:So little minion using disposable alts just for ganking is a violation of EULA. 
Any alt can be biomassed once you grind their security status back up to above -2.
Not that this alt will ever be biomassed. As a Knight of the Order, he is far too valuable for such a mean fate.
Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Agent Trask
Aliastra Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:22:00 -
[562] - Quote
Silus Morde wrote: thanks for the fit, was thinking of skiff and appreciate the fit. Fly safe.
If you wish to become a scout for the New Order, replace the Survey Scanner with a Ship Scanner. Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:26:00 -
[563] - Quote
Kuseka Adama wrote:Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Kuseka Adama wrote: I'd love the clearence to set up a ******* hictor in one of these systems right along a primary warp route in. Or just at the 500 km mark outside a field. Ever see a drop warp ambush? One of the greatest things in the world if you do it right.
If you want to put bubbles in Highsec, you would get CONCORDed when you aggress an illegal target because they tried to initiate warp from inside your bubble. Admittedly, that would be pretty hilarious. This is something i'd love to see change. They want to gank like this we should be able to defend in ways OTHER than running. Five dominix with sentry drones another long range battleships and a few frigates+cruisers and you'd see one very dead fleet. This is why i CANT set up a hictor bubble by the way.
problem is how many in high sec with the exception of those who just seem to float around in Dodixie to show off there ships
truely have them to use. But this last week i have noticed (proudly) that this thread is getting noticed and more and more corps
within these so called claimed NO system's that refuse to buy permits and guarding there miners with 1 to 3 BS. Every time I see it i have to chuckle, what's even funnier is I've been offered protect by them while i mine, then we go our seperate was both party's the richer. |

Lin Suizei
69
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:55:00 -
[564] - Quote
Emperor Crash Zues wrote:guarding there miners with 1 to 3 BS. Every time I see it i have to chuckle, what's even funnier is I've been offered protect by them while i mine, then we go our seperate was both party's the richer.
Are you chuckling at the fact that you just made that terrible story up?
0/10. Do your part for a better Highsec tomorrow - kill an AFK miner today! |

Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
130
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:12:00 -
[565] - Quote
Agent Eunoli wrote:I, personally, believe that CCP catches almost every single botter in the game eventually.
Great, now I have coffee in my nose. Please warn us the next time you are going to say something so hilarious.
The bots you claim to be looking for are mostly out in nullsec and are being run by organizations too big to ban. Places the bumptards fear to tread and by alliances they're justifiably too scared of to risk offending.
They reality is that they only gank in hisec because that is the best their tiny, tiny cajones are capable of. EvE Forum Bingo |

Lin Suizei
69
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:34:00 -
[566] - Quote
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote::goons:
What a new and refreshing argument from a nobody. The amount of evidence you provide for your argument clearly shows that you are inarguably right, and bots are not mostly in highsec. No doubt that all New Order Agents and Knights operate solely in highsec, and the evidence on our killboards indicating otherwise are all errors in the killboard software.
Do your part for a better Highsec tomorrow - kill an AFK miner today! |

Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:34:00 -
[567] - Quote
Lin Suizei wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote:guarding there miners with 1 to 3 BS. Every time I see it i have to chuckle, what's even funnier is I've been offered protect by them while i mine, then we go our seperate was both party's the richer. Are you chuckling at the fact that you just made that terrible story up? 0/10. no I chuckle cause its true even now you arn't around and i see plenty of miners around mining without interference from you |

Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics CODE.
11
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:35:00 -
[568] - Quote
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote: The bots you claim to be looking for are mostly out in nullsec and are being run by organizations too big to ban.
Care to name a few of those "organizations"? Best would be to have some proof as well, because to date no proof has been offered. Do you have some screenshots you made or other information? Did you forward those info to CCP for them to investigate? When did you last petition one of the null-sec botters you know?
Quote:Places the bumptards fear to tread and by alliances they're justifiably too scared of to risk offending.
They reality is that they only gank in hisec because that is the best their tiny, tiny cajones are capable of.
Could you at least try to argue without insults? Makes for a better discussion culture, thanks.
RS |

Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics CODE.
11
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:37:00 -
[569] - Quote
Emperor Crash Zues wrote: no I chuckle cause its true even now you arn't around and i see plenty of miners around mining without interference from you
Hisec is big, we can't be everywhere. You could make an alt and join us if you want to! See http://code.eve-kill.net for our current track record.
RS |

Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:39:00 -
[570] - Quote
Runeme Shilter wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote: no I chuckle cause its true even now you arn't around and i see plenty of miners around mining without interference from you
Hisec is big, we can't be everywhere. You could make an alt and join us if you want to! See http://code.eve-kill.net for our current track record. RS no im in one of the areas you claim so if you claim it why arn't you paroling it? |
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