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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
289
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Posted - 2012.12.27 23:13:00 -
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SaKoil wrote:silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills
You are kidding, right?
No, not really. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again. I'll admit that a balancing change is more likely, but it's not entirely impossible that miners may learn how to conduct their affairs in a more competent fashion.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
332
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Posted - 2012.12.27 23:16:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:SaKoil wrote:silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills
You are kidding, right? No, not really. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again. I'll admit that a balancing change is more likely, but it's not entirely impossible that miners may learn how to conduct their affairs in a more competent fashion.
It's not impossible that one miner will learn to evade us. It's almost completely impossible that a significant proportion will do so.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
289
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Posted - 2012.12.27 23:17:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:silens vesica wrote:SaKoil wrote:silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills
You are kidding, right? No, not really. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again. I'll admit that a balancing change is more likely, but it's not entirely impossible that miners may learn how to conduct their affairs in a more competent fashion. It's not impossible that one miner will learn to evade us. It's almost completely impossible that a significant proportion will do so.
Fair point.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
Bitten.
774
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Posted - 2012.12.27 23:44:00 -
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I liked the part where this "resistance" did absolutely nothing at all except make its creators a laughingstock |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
82
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Posted - 2012.12.27 23:59:00 -
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OP, I have publicly endorsed your movement and subscribed to your mailing list. I eagerly await news of your victories.
Do not disappoint me.
Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2455
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:06:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:I liked the part where this "resistance" did absolutely nothing at all except make its creators a laughingstock
Such is the end of many heros of highsec miners.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Knights of Athena
Eve Engineering
185
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:06:00 -
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I applaud your efforts, if only to ensure that poseurs do not gain a foothold in the game. James and his ilk are just that, poseurs, too gripped by fear to pull the trigger for what they believe in. While I do not hold his sycophants in contemptuous position, he himself is a false leader who puffs out his chest and meekly roars to the galaxy of his prowess and how he believes he is doing a service to the community.
James, a moment...
This isn't WoW, mmmkay? Either turn off your safeties and engage those you feel dilute the game with hot rounds and burning lasers, or be quiet. Bumping is a tactic of the weak and the indecisive. This is Eve, either gank or go home.
I respect and even applaud those who have the courage and intestinal fortitude to accept the consequences of actions that they believe in, but I can never give one ounce of recognition to those who are choked by their own fear.
It is the greatest inequality to try to make unequal things equal. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
451
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:10:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills, or some balancing change will help them, and James 315 will be forced to come out with a new tactic.
That's simple enough. Personal wardecs, placeable on individuals instead of whole (one man) corporations, and much cheaper per week to maintain.
EvE Forum Bingo |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
Bitten.
774
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:10:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:I applaud your efforts, if only to ensure that poseurs do not gain a foothold in the game. James and his ilk are just that, poseurs, too gripped by fear to pull the trigger for what they believe in. While I do not hold his sycophants in contemptuous position, he himself is a false leader who puffs out his chest and meekly roars to the galaxy of his prowess and how he believes he is doing a service to the community.
James, a moment...
This isn't WoW, mmmkay? Either turn off your safeties and engage those you feel dilute the game with hot rounds and burning lasers, or be quiet. Bumping is a tactic of the weak and the indecisive. This is Eve, either gank or go home.
I respect and even applaud those who have the courage and intestinal fortitude to accept the consequences of actions that they believe in, but I can never give one ounce of recognition to those who are choked by their own fear.
Are you in some kind of bizarro EVE? From what I see it is James and the Agents who are the only ones who actually ARE doing things and "pulling the trigger" for what they believe in. I've seen countless ganks from their side. I've yet to see any "resistance" actually do the same. The New Order are out there day after day doing things, while the miners do nothing except talk crap on the EVE-O forums |
Mr Pragmatic
315
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:20:00 -
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I LIKE this.
Grieving Griefers, I love it.
http://dagobah.net/flash/successful_troll_2.swf
Vote for me in the next CSM Elections. I will fight for the interest of all Hi-sec dwellers. No longer will you be cast aside and disparaged. |
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
197
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:24:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:OP, I have publicly endorsed your movement and subscribed to your mailing list. I eagerly await news of your victories. Do not disappoint me.
What are you going to do if he does? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2455
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:40:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills, or some balancing change will help them, and James 315 will be forced to come out with a new tactic. That's simple enough. Personal wardecs, placeable on individuals instead of whole (one man) corporations, and much cheaper per week to maintain.
CCP, you're their only hope !
In before the miners find themselves all wardecced and need the system changed again.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Katherine Jasmone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:45:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills, or some balancing change will help them, and James 315 will be forced to come out with a new tactic. That's simple enough. Personal wardecs, placeable on individuals instead of whole (one man) corporations, and much cheaper per week to maintain.
Utterly stupid idea now that we have a bounty system. Make the bounty high enough and said individual will be target for anyone willing to pull the trigger. Don't have the ISK for the bounty - too bad want to borrow a Retriever?
Yes , I am an alt.-á |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
197
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:01:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills, or some balancing change will help them, and James 315 will be forced to come out with a new tactic. That's simple enough. Personal wardecs, placeable on individuals instead of whole (one man) corporations, and much cheaper per week to maintain. CCP, you're their only hope ! In before the miners find themselves all wardecced and need the system changed again.
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terzho
StarFleet Enterprises
Red Alliance
43
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:08:00 -
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All this fuss over highsec mining? Come on people......... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2455
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:11:00 -
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terzho wrote:All this fuss over highsec mining? Come on people.........
Highsec mining is very important, don't underestimate them.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
332
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:14:00 -
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terzho wrote:All this fuss over highsec mining? Come on people.........
Highsec minning is the primary source of fuss on this forum.
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terzho
StarFleet Enterprises
Red Alliance
43
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:15:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:terzho wrote:All this fuss over highsec mining? Come on people......... Highsec minning is the primary source of fuss on this forum.
Well its either that or Highsec vs Nullsec arguments that are repeated endlessly. |
Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.28 02:42:00 -
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Katherine Jasmone wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills, or some balancing change will help them, and James 315 will be forced to come out with a new tactic. That's simple enough. Personal wardecs, placeable on individuals instead of whole (one man) corporations, and much cheaper per week to maintain. Utterly stupid idea now that we have a bounty system. Make the bounty high enough and said individual will be target for anyone willing to pull the trigger. Don't have the ISK for the bounty - too bad want to borrow a Retriever?
I don't think you know how the bounty system works. There is a reason that the bumper du jour uses the humble and ever reliant stabber. |
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
206
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Posted - 2012.12.28 02:52:00 -
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im just waiting for the day when james takes money that people gave him and run away
oh god of eve pls make that happen
/sacrifices a lamb |
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.12.28 03:05:00 -
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Melodramatic Drivel...
Personally I think bumping miners woud be funny. My question is any of this against the EULA?
In any case I think james315 is a waste of an EVE account...  |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
93
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Posted - 2012.12.28 03:40:00 -
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Katherine Jasmone wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:silens vesica wrote:Sooner or later, the miners will learn new skills, or some balancing change will help them, and James 315 will be forced to come out with a new tactic. That's simple enough. Personal wardecs, placeable on individuals instead of whole (one man) corporations, and much cheaper per week to maintain. Utterly stupid idea now that we have a bounty system. Make the bounty high enough and said individual will be target for anyone willing to pull the trigger. Don't have the ISK for the bounty - too bad want to borrow a Retriever?
I don't think ya understand how bounties pay out. Considering what the dude said about herding the orbiting barges out of range miners have 2 options...pay for the gank ships and guys to clear your systems or get a permit.
You're better off with their permit. I would charge to rid the ebil bumpas from your systums then gank with the money ya paid me to do it. |
Mira Robinson
Omni Galactic Resource Excavation Inc.
Tri-Star Galactic Industries
37
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:00:00 -
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I'm hoping against hope that James is just partaking in some humorous roleplay, and is just looking for some attention from his MinerBumping blog.
Because it would make me lose even more faith in people that make careers out of griefing if his attitude in-game and in his blog is a reflection of his real-life personality. |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
105
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:04:00 -
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Katherine Jasmone wrote:Utterly stupid idea now that we have a bounty system. Make the bounty high enough and said individual will be target for anyone willing to pull the trigger. Don't have the ISK for the bounty - too bad want to borrow a Retriever?
Just curious, but how many professional bounty hunters take hisec contracts? And what is the average bounty on one of these bumping people? A cursory examination of their roster shows that there is indeed plenty of ISK to go around on putting bounties on them - an almost comically absurd amount, in fact. It is simply a question of whether or not the hunters are cashing in on them.
Now why would a hunter pursue them? Obviously for the ISK. Reasons not to? CONCORD retribution, as they are obviously a hisec only operation, so that cuts heavily into potential profits. Locating targets when they are either in one-man corporations or shielded by a massive, untouchable corporation also makes this problematic. The high probability that one may just be placing a bounty on a purely disposable alt is so obvious that it should go without saying.
I suppose that miners could simply put up their kill-rights at a price of zero to encourage more spontaneous target hunting, but that mechanic remains to be seen in action. Other than that, however, the pros of spending the ISK to bounty them, when weighed against the cons, are obviously too small - as evidenced by the fact that these bumpers even still exist to continue wasting valuable oxygen.
And no, I do not need to borrow a Retriever. We actually have a surplus of mining vessels at the moment. After all, they are so cheap (compared to their income generation) that their cost is effectively negligible.
EvE Forum Bingo |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
224
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:10:00 -
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I like to bump bumpers in my Skiff............... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2455
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:43:00 -
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Mira Robinson wrote:I'm hoping against hope that James is just partaking in some humorous roleplay, and is just looking for some attention from his MinerBumping blog.
Because it would make me lose even more faith in people that make careers out of griefing if his attitude in-game and in his blog is a reflection of his real-life personality.
Personally I think it's like some massive troll and all the bumpers are following along because it's funny to them.
I know I do.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Mira Robinson
Omni Galactic Resource Excavation Inc.
Tri-Star Galactic Industries
37
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:49:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Mira Robinson wrote:I'm hoping against hope that James is just partaking in some humorous roleplay, and is just looking for some attention from his MinerBumping blog.
Because it would make me lose even more faith in people that make careers out of griefing if his attitude in-game and in his blog is a reflection of his real-life personality. Personally I think it's like some massive troll and all the bumpers are following along because it's funny to them. I know I do.
I mean yeah, if it's for reactions and roleplaying, I completely understand why he does it. I can't respect it, but I understand and acknowledge it.
But if he is honest-to-God offended at highsec miners...then he needs a life check. |
SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2012.12.28 07:02:00 -
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terzho wrote:All this fuss over highsec mining? Come on people.........
Highsec afk-mining is the most glorious profession of them all. They are the vital backbone of this game, generating content and meaning for thousands. Stories of their epic deeds spawn articles in the media almost weekly and get new players to join.
The only thing that the heroic miners would ask is to make mining a bit easier, as the current implementation is highly taxing and requires deep knowledge of the game. Mining also has some risks, such as getting bumped out of mining range, which is unacceptable. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1190
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Posted - 2012.12.28 07:39:00 -
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SaKoil wrote:terzho wrote:All this fuss over highsec mining? Come on people......... Highsec afk-mining is the most glorious profession of them all. They are the vital backbone of this game, generating content and meaning for thousands. Stories of their epic deeds spawn articles in the media almost weekly and get new players to join. The only thing that the heroic miners would ask is to make mining a bit easier, as the current implementation is highly taxing and requires deep knowledge of the game. Mining also has some risks, such as getting bumped out of mining range, which is unacceptable.
Actually I think that the miners of EvE would like a yellow paint sprayer that they can use to mark peoples pods.
Then they can mark the cowards of EvE with a big yellow strip down their backs.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1756
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Posted - 2012.12.28 08:43:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:SaKoil wrote:terzho wrote:All this fuss over highsec mining? Come on people......... Highsec afk-mining is the most glorious profession of them all. They are the vital backbone of this game, generating content and meaning for thousands. Stories of their epic deeds spawn articles in the media almost weekly and get new players to join. The only thing that the heroic miners would ask is to make mining a bit easier, as the current implementation is highly taxing and requires deep knowledge of the game. Mining also has some risks, such as getting bumped out of mining range, which is unacceptable. Actually I think that the miners of EvE would like a yellow paint sprayer that they can use to mark peoples pods. Then they can mark the cowards of EvE with a big yellow strip down their backs.
The miners would never mark themselves in such a way.
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