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Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
254
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:01:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:Than maybe u wont have 90% of nullsec blue. Than maybe some more roams would happen instead of sitting on Titans for whole nights. We have plenty of roams and we don't have 90% of nullsec blue. I doubt we even have the majority of null entities blue. Try again. Mate u can lie to the public, but pls, pls dont lie to yourself. So, if it goes against the image you'd like to portray, it's a lie. Got it. Funny thing, there's lots of roams in Deklein as well. I guess I'm a liar as well. Or maybe it's just you. I'm pretty sure it's you.
Or maybe u r a tinny delusional. Your roams are mostly "pile up gents BL or VOC came to whoop our assses"
Or some gangs that chase of some solo bot killers. |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1481
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:02:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:Than maybe u wont have 90% of nullsec blue. Than maybe some more roams would happen instead of sitting on Titans for whole nights. We have plenty of roams and we don't have 90% of nullsec blue. I doubt we even have the majority of null entities blue. Try again. Mate u can lie to the public, but pls, pls dont lie to yourself. So, if it goes against the image you'd like to portray, it's a lie. Got it. Funny thing, there's lots of roams in Deklein as well. I guess I'm a liar as well. Or maybe it's just you. I'm pretty sure it's you. Or maybe u r a tinny delusional. U roams are mostly "pile up gents BL or VOC came to whoop our assses" Or some gangs that chase of some solo bot killers. When did I say my roam?
OTHERS are roaming where I live.
Get a clue, or just stfu. |

Lord Leftfield
The Society Calyxes
80
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:08:00 -
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Nothing wrong with a little force projection. I belive CCP's having a HTFU attitude to the whole ordeal. All nations grow and fall over time. Life is just a 420 all the way home :) Please give me more of that chocolate brew!!
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fukier
RISE of LEGION
711
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:38:00 -
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Lord Leftfield wrote:Nothing wrong with a little force projection. I belive CCP's having a HTFU attitude to the whole ordeal. All nations grow and fall over time.
unless sov mechanics change this Tumor of mega blocks will metastasize...
i really really hope the summer expansion theme will be sov mechanics/0.0 industry/force projection... a true follow up to Dominion... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
301
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:44:00 -
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Lord Leftfield wrote:Nothing wrong with a little force projection. I belive CCP's having a HTFU attitude to the whole ordeal. All nations grow and fall over time. Nations formed of nations not beseiged by force parity will stagnate, yes But they will not collapse. Observe how the Roman Empire Balkanized (oh how I love using terms that didnt exist for millenia after the event being described) but had an uneasy stable relationship until the Ottoman Empire came in and sacked Constantinople. Then it collapsed. That is where you can best describe null as. Unless this is an observer problem where null is actually quite healthy but those outside wish to consider it a pack of Neobarbs with CCP under Mesan control. There is a hint there, go read the literature and then respond. |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1485
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:49:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Lord Leftfield wrote:Nothing wrong with a little force projection. I belive CCP's having a HTFU attitude to the whole ordeal. All nations grow and fall over time. Nations formed of nations not beseiged by force parity will stagnate, yes But they will not collapse. Observe how the Roman Empire Balkanized (oh how I love using terms that didnt exist for millenia after the event being described) but had an uneasy stable relationship until the Ottoman Empire came in and sacked Constantinople. Then it collapsed. That is where you can best describe null as. Unless this is an observer problem where null is actually quite healthy but those outside wish to consider it a pack of Neobarbs with CCP under Mesan control. There is a hint there, go read the literature and then respond. I think it's the ottoman part people get lost on.
They're sitting on the sideline, watching, and wondering when we're going to collapse. But no one's willing to be the hand that shoved the beast over the cliff.
It's easier to stand on the side with your spears in the air, yelling, and waiting. |

Washichu May
Psilocybin Research
17
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Posted - 2013.01.16 01:15:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:Lord Leftfield wrote:Nothing wrong with a little force projection. I belive CCP's having a HTFU attitude to the whole ordeal. All nations grow and fall over time. Nations formed of nations not beseiged by force parity will stagnate, yes But they will not collapse. Observe how the Roman Empire Balkanized (oh how I love using terms that didnt exist for millenia after the event being described) but had an uneasy stable relationship until the Ottoman Empire came in and sacked Constantinople. Then it collapsed. That is where you can best describe null as. Unless this is an observer problem where null is actually quite healthy but those outside wish to consider it a pack of Neobarbs with CCP under Mesan control. There is a hint there, go read the literature and then respond. I think it's the ottoman part people get lost on. They're sitting on the sideline, watching, and wondering when we're going to collapse. But no one's willing to be the hand that shoved the beast over the cliff. It's easier to stand on the side with your spears in the air, yelling, and waiting.
I read your poast and I farted so loud |

FourierTransformer
4
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Posted - 2013.01.16 01:44:00 -
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For your consideration: CCP does consider force projection in its current form to be an issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLi1J9YrkM&feature=youtu.be&t=23m38s |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2873
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Posted - 2013.01.16 03:31:00 -
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FourierTransformer wrote: Ah those few moments during fanfest where CCP themselves acknowledge force projection is an issue. There it is in streaming video. Yet we have people run in this thread trying to hid the elephant behind the curtain, all the while foaming at the mouth screaming at the top of their lungs that force projection is a 'non issue'. 
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6367
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Posted - 2013.01.16 04:42:00 -
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developer attention is focused on important issues like "miner bumping" so we might see devblogs regarding force projection by 2015 ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
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Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.01.16 04:52:00 -
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Andski wrote:developer attention is focused on important issues like "miner bumping" so we might see devblogs regarding force projection by 2015
Ahhh. CCP's legendary speed of development. I think the only time they have ever moved quickly was when the first captials started being cranked out of hisec rather than anywhere else in the game. And the first Capitals still managed to get built and deployed in hisec.
So, this means sov will be balanced in summer of 2016. I like it. |

Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
308
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Posted - 2013.01.16 04:52:00 -
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It's a natural step in civilization, I mean look at the world, we're all blue to one another save a few ****-ants here and there, but that's to be expected. I think our world wars are over. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3217
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Posted - 2013.01.16 05:02:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:It's a natural step in civilization, I mean look at the world, we're all blue to one another save a few ****-ants here and there, but that's to be expected. I think our world wars are over. The United Coalitions peace prize. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
310
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Posted - 2013.01.16 05:20:00 -
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Now granted the world is divided up in it's own coalitions, but I mean we're not in active war with one another. The only think I could see next is a cold war. I doubt it though, I expect it to be as is, and who knows maybe eve will show the future of the world before it happens. Apocalypse or utopia.
Or maybe I'm just high off boredom and talking out my ass.
On an on-topic note, force projection goes both ways, nerf's afflict all sides. One must think exponentially, but if it's one thing eve as shown no matter the cost the alliances will adapt and they will continue to grow. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3317
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Posted - 2013.01.16 07:36:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:FourierTransformer wrote: Ah those few moments during fanfest where CCP themselves acknowledge force projection is an issue. There it is in streaming video. Yet we have people run in this thread trying to hid the elephant behind the curtain, all the while foaming at the mouth screaming at the top of their lungs that force projection is a 'non issue'.  Good to see you're still not contributing anything to this thread. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |

fukier
RISE of LEGION
711
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Posted - 2013.01.16 12:57:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:Andski wrote:developer attention is focused on important issues like "miner bumping" so we might see devblogs regarding force projection by 2015 Ahhh. CCP's legendary speed of development. I think the only time they have ever moved quickly was when the first captials started being cranked out of hisec rather than anywhere else in the game. And the first Capitals still managed to get built and deployed in hisec. So, this means sov will be balanced in summer of 2016. I like it.
i sure hope it does not take that long
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
222
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:13:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:That article was fear mongering bull **** under the veil of wanting to protect the little guy. You posted in the wrong thread. You also haven't posted any reasonable suggestions of your own. It's all good. If we are going to have two threads on the same subject, I have no issues with posting here too.
1 is in regards to logistically holding sov in a corner and making supply lines with freighters.
This one is about power projection in asome sort of pre emptive war negotiations because I have titans even though Eve null politics is about having a blob to do anythying without regard to scale (you know, numbers like 100 vs 1000, then 20 people pos bashing, I dunno). "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details. |

Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
222
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:19:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:Now granted the world is divided up in it's own coalitions, but I mean we're not in active war with one another. The only think I could see next is a cold war. I doubt it though, I expect it to be as is, and who knows maybe eve will show the future of the world before it happens. Apocalypse or utopia.
Or maybe I'm just high off boredom and talking out my ass.
On an on-topic note, force projection goes both ways, nerf's afflict all sides. One must think exponentially, but if it's one thing eve as shown no matter the cost the alliances will adapt and they will continue to grow.
You know the "war on drugs" is still technically active.
(I'm tolling, sorry).
But yea, next is escalating to just flat out assassination squads. But I don't think Eve is on the same timeline.
We still have Null thinking they should have highsec industry while at the same time manufacturing things that have already been admitted to being used to "make it easier for me to shoot you". "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details. |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1496
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:33:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:It's a natural step in civilization, I mean look at the world, we're all blue to one another save a few ****-ants here and there, but that's to be expected. I think our world wars are over. First world war was the war to end all wars. Or so they said.
There is currently only one "superpower", or so they say. When that single power falls a void will be left, and others will attempt to fill it; at which point WW3 will begin.
We're not human if we're not killing each other enmasse. |

March rabbit
Aliastra
481
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:34:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:Now granted the world is divided up in it's own coalitions, but I mean we're not in active war with one another. The only think I could see next is a cold war. I doubt it though, I expect it to be as is, and who knows maybe eve will show the future of the world before it happens. Apocalypse or utopia.
i suppose you have never heard about Iraq and Libya? Yes, people call this "bringing peace, freedom and democracy". However every war starts with this political bull-thing. Once i've found and read "Mein Kampf" and found it very interesting reading. There was a lot of points i could agree with author. However i can't agree with actions of said author.
Yea, i don't think we will see global war (like were WW1 and WW2). But wars never ended. They just changed.
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