pedal back and forth

See... you can't seem to read.

Hey grath you are one my fav peeps...

I would love to hear what your thoughts are on this? as you are in i would think the biggest super cap alliance there is and have the most experiance with them.

you are direct and i like that even though sometimes you come off as a jerk...

When all else fails be a bad troll? Gotcha.

Definition: back pedal. "To pedal back".

Very good... now do "Pedal back and forth".

Ooh I have one!
Make it so that the other side gets a jump bridge jammer, that when active prevents these drops.
Now for real fun also have it shut down the gates.
Thus the system is perfectly safe.
Except for the 48 hour window in which it spools down and back up.
Or just limit the number of bridges into an area for a period of time.
After being exceeed no more until dt
Of course these all require that sov be about doing stuff not just sitting around the giant block of hp
Perhaps make it like fw but sov is given to whoever gets all the indexes to one level.

I said fights. Not tutorial kills.

But that's not backpedaling, that's backforthpedaling, or rockpedaling, or something I made up because I wanted something to accuse the other party to this discussion of doing.

Haha, maybe we should start calling EVE "Internet Ships", since things like jump bridges make the space between them so meaningless.

Well done then sir, you should be very proud of yourself. But didn't this thread have something to do with Titans?

Except they increase the meaning of holding space because the people who hold space have a mobility advantage.
So stop with the rhetoric, please.

Most of space is still barren and empty. Less mobility would only serve to add to how many individual sov entities could exist per unit of space

Balance should never be based on cost.

See Tiers and Titans for that reason.

So sure of this, you are.

A spool-up requirement is reasonable. Mass limits for cynos only means that lighting nobody would jump /less/ than 10 supers or 8 titans to a lone cyno, ever. Why? Because it makes a counter-drop that much more difficult. You'd need 5-10 cynos for any serious counter-drop, which is just ridiculous. This basically allows people to use supers with less risk of interference, which is dumb dumb dumb.

Spool-up timers are a decent idea worth discussion, but cyno mass limits are just silly

Are you suggesting that most all of null sec is a living zones where people frequent often, make isk in often, live in and there are more then 1-2 or a small handful of people within at any given time (if that?)


Just to be clear so I can be "certain" of what you are saying before I slap some dotlan in your face. Let's just be clear in order to avoid more "communication issues" in this thread shall we?

Are you suggesting that most all of null sec is a living zones where people frequent often, make isk in often, live in and there are more then 1-2 or a small handful of people within at any given time (if that?)

Yeah, let's make null an even bigger pain in the ass to move around in, that'll definitely fix the problem.

Spool up timers seem perfectly reasonable. It's the limitation capacitors were supposed to impose, but as always the players found a way to organize around it. Putting a hard cap on force projection in terms of time is a fine idea. Same as putting hard caps on moon values.

I think a cooldown would be better, honestly. Something like not being able to jump twice within x amount of time, rather than killing off hotdrops.

Titan bridging is fine, the issue if anything is how cheap the fuel to do it is.

Blame ice miners for making too much ice.

Oups........... did not know ice miners MAKE ice.....