You're just incentivizing "blobbing" because now you need to have at least 4-5 titans active, a ton of entrance cynos, and supercap hegemony to protect your titan and do a fleet. Or you can spend hours jumping through gates, losing 5-10 people each time you jump from desyncs and lag, only to get hotdropped by someone who does have these things. That doesn't sound fun.

Limiting cyno mass on jumps doesn't really solve anything, you can just daisy chain cynos in with the capitals you are dropping. And again, only those who have a distinct advantage would be using cynos. A few extra immobile carriers don't matter if you have 40 SCs and 40 Titans.

There is no issue with force projection, nullsec is already "small" because there are very few entities participating. You shouldn't have to jump halfway across the map for a good fight, there should already be one on your doorstep. Force projection nerfs just make it more difficult for people to get fights, probably the biggest reason why people still live in nullsec.

LOL. Oh coad memories. I don't post with my main to avoid ad-hominem attacks that detract from the discussion. Yes, jump portals use stront as well as isotopes, I thought you were talking about jb's which use liquid ozone. My point stands though, as someone who only does solo stuff, how can you realistically complain about force projection, or know the implications of limiting it? It's completely reasonable for owners of territory to have an inherent advantage over interlopers. Jump bridges haven't been used strategically pretty much since the Eye of Terror anyway. They're literally convenience items that make living in null slightly less annoying.

You guys keep using the word "proliferation" as if you have any idea how many there actually are, and how often they're used.

Wait you can activate a titan bridge inside a pos? Its been years since I used one so I figured the titan had to be outside the pos shield for it to work... If this is the case then titan bridging needs to be moved outside the pos also.

i never said you should not be able to blob... i did say that it should require more effort to dump 500 plus people in a system if you dont want to use the stargates.

Maybe they are talking about what you see at the end of the "revelations II" trailer when it says "we are the enemies of the gods". Some of us liked the vision that was eve back then, and that perspective is no more right or wrong then yours. So maybe get a tissue and wipe your widdle nose, because CCP will remain on your side of this argument. Your titans will be ok (pats on the back)


And if you are still having trouble understanding what "Proliferation" means, here is a handy dandy little drawing I made that will explain it to you.

This right here is why you should just stop. Don't try to fix what you don't understand

no i disagree...
this thread has enlighted me about some flaws i forgot about... in 6 plus years of playing eve its rather easy to forget something like that...

What the hell does tha thave to do with what you quoted?

even bigger rant.

i think this guy is mad about something... i just cant put my finger on it...

He keeps on attacking me personally due to my affiliations... but how does the saying go... even from the mouths of babes?

and you do know there is more then just using a titan to get into a system.. you can you know... use stargates

It explains the idea of "proliferation" with a nifty little picture, and then compares it to an old (and much loved) EVE trailer for comparison. Some people have a strong preference for one massive capital ship existing at the head of a vastly more numerous fleet. When capitals become the battleship and titans-supers become the capitals... well... I guess we need a new "big" ship now don't we?


That is all.

Yeah, he's using logic, he MUST be raving mad!

no i disagree...
this thread has enlighted me about some flaws i forgot about... in 6 plus years of playing eve its rather easy to forget something like that...

Did people stop doing that while I was on my break from EVE?

Love how you casually drop how long you've been playing as if that makes your ignorance any more excusable.

I miss the 80's, things were simpler then.

Why can't things always stay the same?


People did things.
That's your horrible arguement.

While I agree with the concept of removing Titan bridges from inside POS shields that is still a major mechanic. If You are not experienced enough or have proper up to date knowledge of the field you are trying to change then you have no business doing it. There is a simple reason why. Without current and accurate info you are unable to foresee what the future effects of the change may have, thus you cannot attempt to gauge if it is for better or worse. You are basicly taking shots in the dark and wishing for a good outcome.

So there has never been huge Nyx/titan hot drops by BOB, Russians and pandemic legion. Red alliance never teamed up with PL and steamrolled everything in sight with a fleet consisting of a large portion of all supers in game (not made from botting ofc). I must have dreamed all of this.

Are you new here?

this is a problem? thats what the forums are for... one comes up with an idea and posts it...

then people respond with reasons why its good or reasons why its bad...

if everyone knew everything about everything what would be the point in talking?

Oh wait so it did happen... now I will argue that it does not matter that it did

Didn't you guys know, only Goons can talk about Titans, since they and their pets have the moastest.

If your alliance don't have one, you don't have a right to talk about how they are used.

show us on the sov map doll where the big bad goon touched you...

Nobody said anything of the sort.
If you actually have any logical points to bring to the table, I suggest you do so.

I never said that it mattered, nor did I state what side of this debate I fell upon. All I did was point out that some people prefer it one way where as the others prefer it another and then I included a picture for the more simple minded. No one side of this argument is exclusively better than the other one, and that includes your own. I know that may be difficult for you to grasp.



So yea it did happen.
Like I said.
Why were you suggesting that it is not something that is a "feature" of EVE Online? Self serving much?