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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:48:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Whitehound wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Checking Whitehound Alliance recent losses... now I understand why.... it all makes perfect sense now. Lost 2.5 bill to a Suicide.
My list just grows and grows. Why is that when I lose a ship you and others start crying here? He wasn't crying Seems like a cry for attention to me. |

Cannibal Kane
Chosen of New Eden
1258
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:54:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Whitehound wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Checking Whitehound Alliance recent losses... now I understand why.... it all makes perfect sense now. Lost 2.5 bill to a Suicide.
My list just grows and grows. Why is that when I lose a ship you and others start crying here? I am not the one crying here about High being to violent and should be made a none PVP theme park. I am not crying about high-sec. You are crying about me not crying over whatever you want me to cry about and what you think it is you did to me that makes people cry. You blew up my ship when I was not at the keyboard!! I didn't even notice it. And you are now the 4th or 5th posters who thinks this is somehow remarkable. Now if you don't mind, we are discussing a possible future of EVE. If you had followed the thread from the start then you knew what I think about it. So stop with your off-topic posts and your petty attempts of getting tears. Find someone else.
I never met you before this post. And I don't suicide.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
898
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:55:00 -
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I can't even understand whitehound anymore. The billions he's lost due to his failure to follow the Code must have rotted his mind |

Whitehound
392
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:02:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:I don't think my comment will stop anything because there isn't anything that needs stopping. CCP will always ensure that Eve will remain a true multiplayer game and not some fancy "let's all grind happily but not touch each other" crap like other MMOs. Good for you, but I don't put this much hope into CCP.
I then think that it doesn't matter much when high-sec turns into a theme park as long as low-sec and null-sec remains. I can actually see good in it, because it drives out the last PvPer and into low- and null-sec, while a theme park could make CCP more money.
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Davith en Divalone
Aegis Coalition Logistics The Paganism Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:03:00 -
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Sejania Tor wrote: I think it has to do with actual loss of equipment. Some of which is very valuable like the ship, it's modules, implants and even SP in those certain cases where the attackee forgot to upgrade their clone.
Eve isn't remotely unique in that you risk losing equipment and or character development time on death. Perhaps Eve is the most popular current MMO to do so. But in the history of the gaming industry, death penalties in some form have been common, and even welcomed by fans.
Players have multiple ways to reduce or minimize those risks and the penalty, and especially for new players who are not flying freighters or (practically) uninsurable T2 ships, the risks and penalties for highsec are extremely low. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3684
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:21:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Whitehound wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I don't fear change, I fear an empty server. Then don't. And don't care for what others do. Just keep playing your game. I'd like to play a game where those near me are not as harmless as neutral NPCs are. Whitehound wrote: Also, there are players who actually do have like 200 Mackinaws. You can shoot them, but these players won't even notice the loss of one or two and they pull so much ice out of the belts and every day that they can cover losses within minutes. This is already happening so I don't think you really know EVE that well.
Largest amout I have seen was 70 or so and the fact they can do this is a sign EvE has already derailed into a path I don't like. One can multi-box only so many clients in games where the risk is so small or predictable that he can deal with the environment with a copy-paste approach. Then leave high-sec.
Why should I leave a game I like enough to pay 5-6 yearly subs?
If it stinks so much for you to have an EvE that is so EvE... like then it's you who should leave it completely. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Whitehound
392
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:39:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Whitehound wrote:Then leave high-sec. Why should I leave a game I like enough to pay 5-6 yearly subs? If it stinks so much for you to have an EvE that is so EvE... like then it's you who should leave it completely. In which part of EVE are you right now? I am asking, because you complain about not having enough risks and the players around you being harmless.
If you cannot see low-sec and null-sec as the answer to your problem, then CCP will give you a push and no amount of complaints will change it! It will happen because of you, and you not finding the right challenges, and not because the subject says so. |

Le Badass
Zealots of Bob
53
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:40:00 -
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I came into this thread expecting an actual theme park. You know, the one where you take the family and while you're walking around peacefully, a gang of body builder types in clown suits runs up, starts punching everyone in their faces, then run off, laughing manically with your cell phones and wallets.
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Davith en Divalone
Aegis Coalition Logistics The Paganism Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:57:00 -
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Whitehound wrote: I am not crying about high-sec. You are crying about me not crying over whatever you want me to cry about and what you think it is you did to me that makes people cry.
This post needs some Roy Orbison, or at the very least, a hound dog, a pickup truck, and a train. |

Whitehound
392
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Posted - 2013.01.18 15:14:00 -
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Davith en Divalone wrote:Whitehound wrote: I am not crying about high-sec. You are crying about me not crying over whatever you want me to cry about and what you think it is you did to me that makes people cry.
This post needs some Roy Orbison, or at the very least, a hound dog, a pickup truck, and a train. Roy Orbison - Crying |

baltec1
Bat Country
4790
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Posted - 2013.01.18 16:12:00 -
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Whitehound is one of these people who join a PvP game then gets angry when PvP happens to him. Or a dedicated troll. |

CerN Frostwolf
The Rising Stars Academy
2
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Posted - 2013.01.18 16:15:00 -
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As a newbie, the thing that dragged me into the game the most was the hostility of the game. That I always have to watch my back, that I can kill or be killed at any time. I love the risk and the punishment, and the way it makes my heart beat! |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
899
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Posted - 2013.01.18 16:22:00 -
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CerN Frostwolf wrote:As a newbie, the thing that dragged me into the game the most was the hostility of the game. That I always have to watch my back, that I can kill or be killed at any time. I love the risk and the punishment, and the way it makes my heart beat!
The hostility, and freedom to lie, backstab, scam, metagame and cause massive setbacks to others is what made me start playing, and is why I've stuck around for six years. If that kind of stuff starts getting diminished, I'll probably lose a lot of interest |

Kainotomiu Ronuken
722
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Posted - 2013.01.18 16:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Whitehound is one of these people who join a PvP game then gets angry when PvP happens to him. Or a dedicated troll. He lost a one billion ISK pod to the New Order just recently. I think he may be angry because PVP happened to him.
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Whitehound
392
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Posted - 2013.01.18 16:39:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:baltec1 wrote:Whitehound is one of these people who join a PvP game then gets angry when PvP happens to him. Or a dedicated troll. He lost a one billion ISK pod to the New Order just recently. I think he may be angry because PVP happened to him. That's probably a lot of ISKs to you, isn't it? |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
899
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Posted - 2013.01.18 16:51:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:baltec1 wrote:Whitehound is one of these people who join a PvP game then gets angry when PvP happens to him. Or a dedicated troll. He lost a one billion ISK pod to the New Order just recently. I think he may be angry because PVP happened to him. That's probably a lot of ISKs to you, isn't it?
Whitehound has started overheating his damage control in this thread.
A billion isk is a lot to lose as a result of stupidly afking in highsec because you think (or wish) it was 100% safe |

Lin Fatale
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.18 16:54:00 -
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question: what do you think, how can we solve the blop issue?
answer: we need tools to manage our mega coalitions, share standings and ****, so that it is ubar easy to have a coalition with 30 alliances w/o any kind of work
CCP can you please think the other way around? what would happen if you throw out the alliance System? - Maybe you get much smaller blocks because it is to hard to handle the standings? - corps are on the sov map -> more identity/motivation on corp/player level - if you wanne have 10000 blue corps --> then hell you should work for it - more drama, cuz of standing fuckup --> more conflicts |

Merouk Baas
438
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:01:00 -
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Having the interface be **** and not let your group form into an alliance isn't going to PREVENT people from grouping up, or disband existing groups.
Do you think the Goons will simply disperse if CCP makes the alliance interface ****? Do you think the Russians, Aussies, Swedes, French, Germans, and other groups will stop playing with their people and intermingle with you because all of a sudden the interface is ****?
If the alliance interface gets removed, they'll just make an out-of-game API-based red/blue app. NOT hard to do. |

Ghazu
498
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:03:00 -
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ok fine, make the alliance system be shite, but in return move all lvl 4s to lowsec. http://www.minerbumping.com/
lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |

Lin Fatale
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:18:00 -
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ofc it will not prevent people from grouping up and it should not be just saying it should be harder to group up and not easier
with the current alliance system its just 10 alliance set each other blue --> mega blop in 1 minute and you dont even know 99% of the other corps
if there were no alliance system, and each corp ceo has to set standings you will think twice if you want to maintain a big blue list you would have drama, cuz half of them are inactive anyway
the groups would be smaller, definitely
its just like some other tools, and nothing else is the alliance system do you think someone would be able to move a cap fleet around in some minutes w/o dotlan/other tools?
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3400
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:21:00 -
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There is no "blob issue". It's all in your head.
If you want a style of gameplay where smaller groups dominate there's a place for that. It's not nullsec, so stop trying to change nullsec to what you want it to be. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm Want to enable BBcode on the forums? Here's how. |

killorbekilled TBE
Initiated
202
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:23:00 -
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Lin Fatale wrote:question: what do you think, how can we solve the blop issue?
answer: we need tools to manage our mega coalitions, share standings and ****, so that it is ubar easy to have a coalition with 30 alliances w/o any kind of work
CCP can you please think the other way around? what would happen if you throw out the alliance System? - Maybe you get much smaller blocks because it is to hard to handle the standings? - corps are on the sov map -> more identity/motivation on corp/player level - if you wanne have 10000 blue corps --> then hell you should work for it - more drama, cuz of standing fuckup --> more conflicts
i approve of this
:) |

Whitehound
392
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:25:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Whitehound has started overheating his damage control in this thread.
A billion isk is a lot to lose as a result of stupidly afking in highsec because you think (or wish) it was 100% safe Good to know. However, when you do up to 2b ISK per day with trading then you'll think differently and will care little about it.
Anything else? I'd really like to get back on topic. |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2947
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Whitehound is one of these people who join a PvP game then gets angry when PvP happens to him. Or a dedicated troll. What if a dedicated troll was to PvP him? 
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
122
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:37:00 -
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Keep wardecs.
In my last corp, we were a really small group of pvpers, and we wardecced a hisec indy group for two weeks (this was before wardec changes). We tailed them, tracked them, blew up their pos, kept them docked, baited them out, everything. They didn't jump to dec shield. Eventually we extracted a surrender free from the CEO, with the benefit that we would train their members to pvp. We eventually poached away all the promising candidates from the indy corp.
Furthermore, you should not remove the ability for hisec pvp entities to hurt nullsec ones by wardeccing them and harassing their logistics. One of the CSM said "well thats pointless they should use alts." But not everyone in nullsec has dedicated hisec alts that they can keep out-of-corp fulltime. Furthermore, the alts often form their own corp, which can be tracked and wardecced.
I only did wardecs for a few months and doubt I'll ever do them again, but I was horrified that more than one CSM would seriously consider removing them entirely. Fighting is Magic |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
900
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Posted - 2013.01.18 20:25:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Whitehound has started overheating his damage control in this thread.
A billion isk is a lot to lose as a result of stupidly afking in highsec because you think (or wish) it was 100% safe Good to know. However, when you do up to 2b ISK per day with trading then you'll think differently and will care little about it. Anything else? I'd really like to get back on topic.
This is verging on "I didnt want that billion isk anyway", tinged with a bit of attempted e-peen over your ok income
Losing half of your daily income because you didnt understand what the game was is a big hit no matter how much you make |

Whitehound
397
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Posted - 2013.01.18 21:04:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Whitehound wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Whitehound has started overheating his damage control in this thread.
A billion isk is a lot to lose as a result of stupidly afking in highsec because you think (or wish) it was 100% safe Good to know. However, when you do up to 2b ISK per day with trading then you'll think differently and will care little about it. Anything else? I'd really like to get back on topic. This is verging on "I didnt want that billion isk anyway", tinged with a bit of attempted e-peen over your ok income Losing half of your daily income because you didnt understand what the game was is a big hit no matter how much you make Go on, I am listening... What else is wrong with me? I am sure there is more you want to tell me. |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1588
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Posted - 2013.01.18 21:05:00 -
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Lin Fatale wrote: just saying it should be harder to group up and not easier
Yes, that's always been the best way to develop your game.
Perhaps you didn't here, CCP wants to focus on making the interface and the way we interact with the game LESS tedius and difficult.
Basically the opposite of what you tihnk they should do.
Lin Fatale wrote: do you think someone would be able to move a cap fleet around in some minutes w/o dotlan/other tools?
Perhaps you didn't here, CCP wants null corps to be able to move large forces around quickly and easily, and that's why they made things like titans and cynos that do exactly that.
Any place you can get to in "minutes" using the tools that get you there, are intended to get you there in "minutes". No one's using titan bridges to hot drop supers on a roaming gang, people hotdrop subcaps on roaminng gangs, because CCP said "here guys, use these to hotdrop other players fleets."; so we do.
What CCP doesn't want, and what doesn't happen, is for one alliance to be able to use those tools to steam roll another alliance and take their space in an afternoon.
The GSF did not "just take" NC. space, and it sure has hell did not happen in a day.
It would be a huge discredit, and frankly insulting, to NC to say that we just rolled over them and took their space. No one from NC ever came to the forums and cried that "it's bullshit that GSF is hotdropping supers into the middle of our space."
I do not recall -A- crying on the forums about the HBC hotdropping supers into the middle of their space and flipping all of there sov overnight. There's a lot of other **** that was happening that had nothing to do with titan bridges and super cap fleets. A big part of HBC strategy to break -A- didn't even have anything to do with actually shooting ships. It's one of those things that makes EVE so ******* awesome.
No one is writting stories about that little 50 man engagement. You're telling me this is bad for EVE? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ-l-QGC3g0
If you want to be a part of null you need to learn to work with others or be big enough that you don't have to. Just because you play EVE doesn't mean you should be able to come to null, claim sov, and play in your own little world that doesn't invovle having to deal with the people around you.
The CFC, GSF, -A-, etc. are not composed of a couple of large corpse, they're composed of a bunch of alliances that are composed of a crapton of SMALLER corporations.
The GSF is not 6000 Goonwaffe members. Goonwaffe is the large corp (CCP gives us the ability to build multithousand man corporations, guys) around which many, many small corporations work.
When the GSF takes a system, they do not take control of that system, it's given to a SMALLER entity that works with the GSF. There are lots and lots of small (50-100 man corporations) that hold sov in null.
People like you are whining that you can't do something that thousands of other people have been doing for years. CCP intentionally ******* up the game is not going to make it "fair" for you, and that is exactly what some of you want CCP to do. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2379
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Posted - 2013.01.18 21:23:00 -
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There is clearly a difference between grief play and PVP.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3693
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Posted - 2013.01.18 21:27:00 -
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Whitehound wrote: In which part of EVE are you right now? I am asking, because you complain about not having enough risks and the players around you being harmless.
If you cannot see low-sec and null-sec as the answer to your problem, then CCP will give you a push and no amount of complaints will change it! It will happen because of you, and you not finding the right challenges, and not because the subject says so.
Lately? Mostly hi sec, WHs and low sec. I still have some stuff in NPC nullsec but no time to play long enough to make it fruitful for me.
So, what would that mean to me? I want EvE to be EvE in hi sec too, that's simple. Each place its dangers and its potential. Hi sec less dangerous, OK, but not SAFE. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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