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Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 09:47:00 -
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Vicata Heth wrote:Boobiq wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Boobiq wrote:From your protective behavior about multiboxing I assume u use it yourself. well, you know what they say about assuming things. No I dont and I dont need u to freshen my memory. As for all those which dont multibox/bot and dont like the idea - just contact me and come gank. Lets kill as many as we can. :) Why don't you post with your main so I can come gank you, *****.
You forgot to do your homework mate. This is my main as you can see. And you are welcome to try. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2540
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Posted - 2013.02.28 09:47:00 -
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Boobiq wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Boobiq wrote:From your protective behavior about multiboxing I assume u use it yourself. Well then, I might aswell assume that everyone that wants multiboxing banned is a botter. Dont follow. As you can see I was refering multiboxing as a botting of a different kind. So both should be set against EULA.
There is a huge difference between the two. One is automated gameplay which is against the rules in pretty much every game out there. The other is not automated gameplay & is allowed in pretty much every game out there. This whole thread came about because a guy got banned for botting & his friends threw a hissy fit over it. Now they want people who aren't doing anything wrong to suffer aswell, when the person could have simply not botted in the first place.
Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
762
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Posted - 2013.02.28 09:48:00 -
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I'm fairly sure Dave was one of the ex-bob Mackinaws I petitioned about 1-2 years ago, again and again, for botting in an ice belt and being very obvious about it.
Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |
Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 09:49:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:I'm fairly sure Dave was one of the ex-bob Mackinaws I petitioned about 1-2 years ago, again and again, for botting in an ice belt and being very obvious about it.
Lawl. Keep those posts coming, lets make eve a better world. |
Astri Lastri
Guards of Red Army
RA Citizens
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 09:55:00 -
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You cann't simply ban multiboxers, CCP stated that multiboxing is allowed when there is no automation of input, also they stated, that multiboxers should not use huge macro commands and etc.
Mining is just hit F1, F2, F3 and throw ore from cargo to container, there is no automation but this removes annoyance of doing same inputs.
Even if CCP would do so this would cause another players decreasing, even more than every patch makes. BECAUSE NOONE would continue to pay, if he cann't manage his accounts like before.
If you think that this is automation - then we should also permaban gankers, since they also automate their "job".
Ganking is nearly same as mining - you have got control char, you have got slaves, slaves should do some set of operation( okay it's just two for gankers - warp to and f1).
Also we should permaban everyone who made second pilot for self, HE is potential multiboxer! BAN!
This topic is growing, and i cann't understand why CCP didn't close it. |
Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 09:58:00 -
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Astri Lastri wrote:You cann't simply ban multiboxers, CCP stated that multiboxing is allowed when there is no automation of input, also they stated, that multiboxers should not use huge macro commands and etc.
Mining is just hit F1, F2, F3 and throw ore from cargo to container, there is no automation but this removes annoyance of doing same inputs.
Even if CCP would do so this would cause another players decreasing, even more than every patch makes. BECAUSE NOONE would continue to pay, if he cann't manage his accounts like before.
If you think that this is automation - then we should also permaban gankers, since they also automate their "job".
Ganking is nearly same as mining - you have got control char, you have got slaves, slaves should do some set of operation( okay it's just two for gankers - warp to and f1).
Also we should permaban everyone who made second pilot for self, HE is potential multiboxer! BAN!
This topic is growing, and i cann't understand why CCP didn't close it.
Because it is not normal for one to control 80 accounts and CCP knows it aswell. How exactly is ganking automated tell me ? Ofc one can use multibox for ganking and I am against it aswell. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2544
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:01:00 -
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Boobiq wrote:Because it is not normal for one to control 80 accounts and CCP knows it aswell. How exactly is ganking automated tell me ? Ofc one can use multibox for ganking and I am against it aswell.
It can be done with or with out software such as ISboxer because it ultimately is not automation & still requires player input. Botting can't be done with out software & is fully automated by design.
Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:17:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Boobiq wrote:Because it is not normal for one to control 80 accounts and CCP knows it aswell. How exactly is ganking automated tell me ? Ofc one can use multibox for ganking and I am against it aswell. It can be done with or with out software such as ISboxer because it ultimately is not automation & still requires player input. Botting can't be done with out software & is fully automated by design.
Yes but after a click all other actions are multiplied. How exactly is that not automated ? It may not be fully automated but it is semi-automatic anyways. |
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
583
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:22:00 -
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Boobiq wrote:How exactly is that not automated?
It's not automated, because it require a person to push the button. It's it was automated the process would continue, without someone stilling at the keyboard.
I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:28:00 -
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dexington wrote:Boobiq wrote:How exactly is that not automated? It's not automated, because it require a person to push the button. It's it was automated the process would continue, without someone stilling at the keyboard.
I said it is semi automated...good god... cant u read ? Multiplication is automation if you have no understanding of programming then dont post. |
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Zoe Panala
Blobcats
110
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:33:00 -
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Agreed. With cheats, there is no skill involved. I can run 6 accounts just fine without any 3rd party programs. Learn to play, if you want to multibox, nooblets!  |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
331
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:35:00 -
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Boobiq wrote:dexington wrote:Boobiq wrote:How exactly is that not automated? It's not automated, because it require a person to push the button. It's it was automated the process would continue, without someone stilling at the keyboard. I said it is semi automated...good god... cant u read ? Multiplication is automation if you have no understanding of programming then dont post.
A regular human human can perform one action with one click.
One click resulting in more than one click for the computer = automated action. Should it be simultaneous clicks on different clients, or clicks delayed, on the same client.
Imagine someone, I don't know... pedaling on two bikes simultaneously. Or twenty.
G££ <= Me |
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
583
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:35:00 -
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Boobiq wrote:Multiplication is automation if you have no understanding of programming then dont post.
you know how to nerd rage, but don't understand elementary mathematics while claiming to understand programming, you clearly are the one how should decide how gets to post on the forum.
I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:36:00 -
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Zoe Panala wrote:Agreed. With cheats, there is no skill involved. I can run 6 accounts just fine without any 3rd party programs. Learn to play, if you want to multibox, nooblets!
And some can do "solo" PVP with 3 accounts and still be perfectly capable of handling most situations. So I dont see why multiboxing should be allowed. |
Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:38:00 -
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dexington wrote:Boobiq wrote:Multiplication is automation if you have no understanding of programming then dont post. you know how to nerd rage, but don't understand elementary mathematics while claiming to understand programming, you clearly are the one how should decide how gets to post on the forum.
When ever you quote someone please use the "Quote" button not just copy-paste desired phrase out of the text. You make yourself look dumb. (this goes for the previous post if u dont follow) |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
84
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:49:00 -
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Boobiq wrote:
Because it is not normal for one to control 80 accounts and CCP knows it aswell.
Why?
When I play Age of Empires I easily control 80 villagers?
EvE is a sandbox game. If some players want to play it as an MMO-RTS why is that a problem?
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Dave Stark
1873
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:25:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:I'm fairly sure Dave was one of the ex-bob Mackinaws I petitioned about 1-2 years ago, again and again, for botting in an ice belt and being very obvious about it.
i'm not even sure i've been playing that long, and i certainly wasn't in bob.
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Astri Lastri
Guards of Red Army
RA Citizens
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:41:00 -
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Automation is not when your action is cause of allowed game action, even if you sent that action to multiple clients.
When you use meta actions (which gives you advantage) you break EULA. Meta action is when your action cause queue of allowed game actions occur. No matter if you use single or multiple clients. THIS IS AUTOMATION. |
Vicata Heth
Corporate Scum
Test Friends Please Ignore
41
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:41:00 -
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that we could all solo gank boobiq over here, because we're all evil multiboxers who use key broadcasting to gank with our army of tornados. |
Dave Stark
1874
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:58:00 -
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Astri Lastri wrote:Automation is not when your action is cause of allowed game action, even if you sent that action to multiple clients.
When you use meta actions (which gives you advantage) you break EULA. Meta action is when your action cause queue of allowed game actions occur. No matter if you use single or multiple clients. THIS IS AUTOMATION.
except to send something to multiple clients you've sent something, and provided an input, so it isn't automation....
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
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Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:17:00 -
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Vicata Heth wrote:I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that we could all solo gank boobiq over here, because we're all evil multiboxers who use key broadcasting to gank with our army of tornados.
another troll multiboxer... |
Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:19:00 -
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Astri Lastri wrote:Automation is not when your action is cause of allowed game action, even if you sent that action to multiple clients.
When you use meta actions (which gives you advantage) you break EULA. Meta action is when your action cause queue of allowed game actions occur. No matter if you use single or multiple clients. THIS IS AUTOMATION.
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Notorious Fellon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:20:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Astri Lastri wrote:Automation is not when your action is cause of allowed game action, even if you sent that action to multiple clients.
When you use meta actions (which gives you advantage) you break EULA. Meta action is when your action cause queue of allowed game actions occur. No matter if you use single or multiple clients. THIS IS AUTOMATION. except to send something to multiple clients you've sent something, and provided an input, so it isn't automation....
No matter how many times you try and define the word to suit your needs, it doesn't change the fact that *some* people are against the practice. It is currently "OK" according to CCP's interpretation of their EULA, and theirs is the only one that matters in the end. But, that still doesn't change that some people are against the practice.
No one cares about your claim that you didn't inhale. No one. |
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
146
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:34:00 -
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In addition to a "like" button, CCP needs to add a "dead horse" button.
If you see someone you think is breaking the ToS or the EULA then petition it and let the GM's sort it out. Otherwise relax, take a deep breath and go about your merry way and enjoy your game play experience. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1195
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:41:00 -
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Klymer wrote:In addition to a "like" button, CCP needs to add a "dead horse" button.
If you see someone you think is breaking the ToS or the EULA then petition it and let the GM's sort it out. Otherwise relax, take a deep breath and go about your merry way and enjoy your game play experience.
I have a better solution to the "problem" other than wasting GM time on silliness: how about the person with his/her panties in a bunch either wardec or gank those offending parties?
I know, I know... CRAZY idea like that doesn't belong in a game like EveO. Bad Ginger, BAD!
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
146
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:05:00 -
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Totally acceptable idea, just one that has consequences for both parties that is fairly limited and some people are risk averse. Whereas letting a GM drop the banhammer on someone is one that has virtually no consequences for the initiating party yet provides a sever penalty to the offender, namely eliminating their ability to play and possible asset seizure. |
ian papabear
The Maverick Navy
Black Legion.
46
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:15:00 -
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this would mean that half of the active pl super cap fleet would be gone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FJBdQUAO4 |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1834
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Posted - 2013.03.01 11:05:00 -
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Some posts were removed.
Please discuss this topic without resorting to personal insults!
ISD Suvetar
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Boobiq
Imperial Express
5
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Posted - 2013.03.01 11:46:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Some posts were removed.
Please discuss this topic without resorting to personal insults!
exactly keep it clean and tidy |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami
No Value
261
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Posted - 2013.03.01 22:48:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Astri Lastri wrote:Automation is not when your action is cause of allowed game action, even if you sent that action to multiple clients.
When you use meta actions (which gives you advantage) you break EULA. Meta action is when your action cause queue of allowed game actions occur. No matter if you use single or multiple clients. THIS IS AUTOMATION. except to send something to multiple clients you've sent something, and provided an input, so it isn't automation....
For that account you are controlling yes.
Not the other 19 in your 20man army.
Those clicks were automated by a script to duplicate the original input.
The best reference was the "pedaling while on 2 bicycles" analogy. You can own 2 bikes, noone is disputing that fact. You can either alternate riding them down the street, or you can ride 1 to your destination and walk/travel to the other bike then ride it down to your destination.
I'm sure you could technically fashion a broomhandle across the handle bars to hardware comply multiple actions...
But ultimately, you cannot ride 2 bikes at once. Not without assistance of some kind.
The EULA, should govern that assistance, not monitor it.
"I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á
-TheGunslinger42
Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |
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