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Asuri Kinnes Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy 709	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:00:00 - [391] - Quote I hope to hell he doesn't get elected to the CSM.... but there are enough lemmings out there drinking the Cool-Aid that he probably will... Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure...
Corey Fumimasa Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive 139	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:18:00 - [392] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden. .... But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP. Eve is truly diverse, it has all those kinds of players already. The blue donut is a myth, it does not exist. Go to Dotlan and look over the kill stats. There are 2 huge powerblocks and a third that could tip the balance either way, and very many smaller sharks swimming and looking to get bigger. The leaders and members of these 2 huge power blocks do not all like one another, they compete and fight on a regular basis. It is a very precarious situation. They are not blaming highsec, they are pursuing an in game motivation that meshes well with out of game ideals. You are not supposed to "appreciate" it. Your choice is to fight or loose resources. Eve is about overcoming and outsmarting other players, not about burning through fictional content to see who can do it the fastest. That is why Eve is a great game and lures all types of players, the endless challenge and interaction of competing with other players in a strange and mysterious world filled with hidden secrets that contain the seeds of success. You still haven't stated clearly exactly what it is that you would like to see from CCP as far as future development. Don't leave it to the imaginations of those here, they will think the worst of you. This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:27:00 - [393] - Quote TheGunslinger42 wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now. And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise. What is it that you want to see in Eve? Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden. You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec. Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP. This idea of being able to "not interact with others" is stupid and cannot be accomplished within EVE. It's one giant shard shared by everyone, one big economy shared by everyone, etc. You cannot opt out of interaction with people unless you completely redesign the game and take away some of the core defining aspects (that are clearly why it's survived and grown for ten straight years, while the countless wow-lite mmos have the lifespan of a mayfly) It truly astonishes me that people miss the entire point of EVE online and continue to play it for so long, and that they think these kinds of suggestions would be improvements to the game ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones.
Jonah Gravenstein Gordian Knot Holdings 5745	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:38:00 - [394] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you. I am Ohm of Borg, Resistance is Voltage/Current.
Corey Fumimasa Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive 139	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:44:00 - [395] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Eve is a great game for solo players, I spend most of my time out of a fleet and don't often care to take advantage of corporate assets. There's a ton of stuff to do on your own, and currently people can't steal anything from your hangers so it is all safe when you log off. Its true that solo players have trouble setting up POS's, but there has been a lot of talk about making that easier to do. And for no there is the ORCA option if you need a remote ship bay out in W-space or whatever. The only changes that I would like to see are more ways in which to interact with one another. More career paths like the wandering ship mechanic proposed here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&t=196175&f=270&q=2623756 Or industrial espionage agent talked about here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=195821&find=unread This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:49:00 - [396] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you. Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change.
Corey Fumimasa Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive 140	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:00:00 - [397] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change. No one in Eve is forced to interact. Players are forced to learn evasion tactics, and that option is currently very powerful. It is much easier for even a low skilled pilot to evade than it is for a high skilled pilot or pilots to catch him. This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 986	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:03:00 - [398] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you. Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change. ^^^ yet more silly trolling. Please stop. This is not a signature.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:06:00 - [399] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you. Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change. ^^^ yet more silly trolling. Please stop. I'm perfectly allowed to post my opinions. There are quite a lot of views on what Eve should be.
Keno Skir Vectis Covert Solutions 389	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:06:00 - [400] - Quote Yet another tired thread about lol worthy new order. If you wanna save people, show them how much fun the game can really be. That does not mean teach them to fly their ship in the direction of another ship before laughing. Kinda get what ur trying to say (James or who ever you're posting as today), but you're not doing it in a way that fits what you're trying to make out is going on. Moving on... EDIT : I fully support piracy in HiSec, even to the extent of bumbing miners if that's how you get your rocks off. I just don't like it when James calls what he does piracy, or PvP. James 315 likes the attention that really seems to be it. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance
Jonah Gravenstein Gordian Knot Holdings 5747	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:07:00 - [401] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you. Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change. That's where we differ, I've played "solo" for at least half the time I've been playing Eve, I mission, I mine, I do industrial stuff. But even as a "solo" pilot I have an effect on everyone else who indulges in any of those activities, I compete for roids, I compete on the market, I sell mission loot and salvage to other players. The only solo part of what I do is that I fly by myself. A truly solo Eve would mean that you couldn't use the market as it is today, all your ships and ammo would be produced by NPCs not players, NPCs would have a monopoly on buying ore and minerals etc, all in all a very boring game. It's totally possible to play Eve as a "solo" pilot, but you have to recognise that you do in fact have an effect on other players, and they in turn can have an effect on you. It's not a single player game, which is why I play it, me vs the universe and everybody in it. Outwitting an NPC is not satisfying, outwitting another player, be it in a straight up fight, manipulating their responses or just plain beating them in market games is satisfying. Eve in a nutshell, it's me vs the universe, and everybody in it.
Corey Fumimasa Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive 141	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:08:00 - [402] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: ^^^ yet more silly trolling. Please stop. You think he's a troll Josef? I'm starting to believe that myself. idk the question of Eve being a game for a wide variety of players is interesting. I think to bring more people in it would be good to have another mini-game or 2 and a few more career paths, and to make all career paths important and potential group roles. Or at least to have group roles that can be filled in fleet and corp by different play styles. *edit: I guess CCP already has those things, great game that we have here. I hope it continues to ad options and resists taking any away. This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:16:00 - [403] - Quote The more users think I'm trolling, the more cemented my views of the forum portion of the playerbase becomes.
Corey Fumimasa Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive 142	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:18:00 - [404] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: The more users think I'm trolling, the more cemented my views of the forum portion of the playerbase becomes. I have to say the more you post the less I care what you think. This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories.
Jonah Gravenstein Gordian Knot Holdings 5747	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:21:00 - [405] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: The more users think I'm trolling, the more cemented my views of the forum portion of the playerbase becomes. I wouldn't go so far as to say you're trolling, I would however say that you're posting in ignorance of what Eve truly is and that comes across as trolling to some. Eve in a nutshell, it's me vs the universe, and everybody in it.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:24:00 - [406] - Quote In Eve, the players are the content. And groups of players have different views of what Eve is. There is no single definition of what this game is.
Jonah Gravenstein Gordian Knot Holdings 5747	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:29:00 - [407] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: In Eve, the players are the content. And groups of players have different views of what Eve is. There is no single definition of what this game is. CCP define what Eve is, they provide the framework, the players provide the content, your personal opinion on what it is is precisely that, an opinion. Their game, their servers, their rules, their definition. CCP state that it's a harsh dark universe, where other people can and do reinforce that. What it is not is a game where you can safely ignore other players and hope they ignore you in return. Eve in a nutshell, it's me vs the universe, and everybody in it.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:31:00 - [408] - Quote I disagree. I think there should be areas of New Eden where you can play your way without prowling dicks looking for more tears for a substandard blog.
Jonah Gravenstein Gordian Knot Holdings 5747	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:35:00 - [409] - Quote You can disagree all you like, expect to get stomped on by the majority of us that play Eve precisely because it hasn't got safe areas in it. New customers are great for CCP, but not when they want to turn Eve into something it is not. Eve in a nutshell, it's me vs the universe, and everybody in it.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:39:00 - [410] - Quote I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault.
Jonah Gravenstein Gordian Knot Holdings 5748	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:43:00 - [411] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault. Then do it. Gather some friends, go and carve yourself a slice of space, don't expect others to let you do without a fight though, they have already fought for it, why should they let you take it away from them without a fight Eve in a nutshell, it's me vs the universe, and everybody in it.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:48:00 - [412] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault. Then do it. Gather some friends, go and carve yourself a slice of space, don't expect others to let you do without a fight though, they have already fought for it, why should they let you take it away from them without a fight. Alternatively find an empty wormhole, it's about as close to nullsec as you'll find outside of nullsec. That's been my primary method of searching thus far, and no luck so far. And that's even more thrilling because you never know if it's empty or not.
Corey Fumimasa Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive 142	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:59:00 - [413] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault. The null seccers don't actually ask for much, they want more access to indy slots is about the only thing I hear them ask for. They do hate change for the sake of change and players who have never really been out of highsec asking for game changes that will make it easier to get into null. But honestly null is not in a "hole" and they are not all blue to one another. As for mining mercoxit; hell yeah, thats an awesome goal. Learn evasion, learn to mine in lowsec, contact the CVA or go exploring the outer ring and have at it. Go in with some other guys and buy an ORCA sneak it into null, and mine fill it up. That would be a blast. This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:05:00 - [414] - Quote Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault. The null seccers don't actually ask for much, they want more access to indy slots is about the only thing I hear them ask for. They do hate change for the sake of change and players who have never really been out of highsec asking for game changes that will make it easier to get into null. But honestly null is not in a "hole" and they are not all blue to one another. As for mining mercoxit; hell yeah, thats an awesome goal. Learn evasion, learn to mine in lowsec, contact the CVA or go exploring the outer ring and have at it. Go in with some other guys and buy an ORCA sneak it into null, and mine fill it up. That would be a blast. Before I even consider moving anything to mine it, first I have to find it, which is proving a challenge. I was under the impression that no matter where you are; null, WH, wherever, Merc has to be scanned down, yes?
Corey Fumimasa Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive 142	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:30:00 - [415] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Before I even consider moving anything to mine it, first I have to find it, which is proving a challenge. I was under the impression that no matter where you are; null, WH, wherever, Merc has to be scanned down, yes? Oh I have no idea. So hop in a covops and go find some. Have you looked on the Evelopedia aout it? This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:06:00 - [416] - Quote Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Before I even consider moving anything to mine it, first I have to find it, which is proving a challenge. I was under the impression that no matter where you are; null, WH, wherever, Merc has to be scanned down, yes? Oh I have no idea. So hop in a covops and go find some. Have you looked on the Evelopedia aout it? Yes, I have researched it to varying degrees. Only available in null and wormholes, and still, needs to be scanned down. And even then it's quite rare.
Nyancat Audeles Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:09:00 - [417] - Quote wat is this and why do i care also, wtfomgbbq wall of text!
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:20:00 - [418] - Quote Nothing much. Just a brainwashed convert. People like those are the reason carebear is a derogatory term in this community. Pathetic.
Tesal 197	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:25:00 - [419] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Nothing much. Just a brainwashed convert. People like those are the reason carebear is a derogatory term in this community. Pathetic. Are you coming out as a carebear?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 7641	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:31:00 - [420] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault. The null seccers don't actually ask for much, they want more access to indy slots is about the only thing I hear them ask for. They do hate change for the sake of change and players who have never really been out of highsec asking for game changes that will make it easier to get into null. But honestly null is not in a "hole" and they are not all blue to one another. As for mining mercoxit; hell yeah, thats an awesome goal. Learn evasion, learn to mine in lowsec, contact the CVA or go exploring the outer ring and have at it. Go in with some other guys and buy an ORCA sneak it into null, and mine fill it up. That would be a blast. Before I even consider moving anything to mine it, first I have to find it, which is proving a challenge. I was under the impression that no matter where you are; null, WH, wherever, Merc has to be scanned down, yes? Mercoxit is a belt ore eg: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/ZDYA-G Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread

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