So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity

What is so good about Bumping a Miner?

No, not trolling. There is no other decent themepark sci fi MMO out there, so carebears have made their home in EVE and are trying their best to make it the way they want.

Despite the platform and rhetoric, the Code and the ideas behind it are not about dogfight PvP or destroying miners. They are about in game options to interact with other players. Over the years those options have narrowed, whether by in game mechanics or through emergent game play.

Much of that direction has been fueled by meta-gaming, the Code is an attempt to put the creation of more options for interaction in the game. Some of those options will lead to loss and destruction. But that is better than stagnation from the POV of James and co. and a lot of highsec bears to.

I want to clarify that I have no problem with what he is doing per se; I simply find some of the rhetoric disingenuous. If someone wants to get a bunch of friends together and start a protection racket, thatGÇÖs fine. Eve is a sandbox game, I while thatGÇÖs not really my cup of tea, I sort of like that thatGÇÖs possible.

Just donGÇÖt expect the rest of us to agree when they trumpet about how they are somehow protecting all that is right and good. The Hulkageddon people are also annoying, but at least they are completely honest about their motivations.

So I should stop having BADWRONG fun. Got it. Everything should be PVP all the time forever and anything that takes away from that is KILLING EVE OMG. The weirdest part is, you guys don't seem to really want PVP. Not really. If you wanted actual fights, you would be out in null, or W-Space. What you want is to shoot at noobs in mining barges, using ships specifically designed to be expendable, and then chest beat about how you showed those wimpy carebears.

Maybe if they stop blueing each other, they'd get the fights they're looking for.

Dear friends, this is a glorious occasion. Look at how we have all been brought together by the peace and love offered by the Code. You each have shown that you care about the Code enough to come here and debate your understanding of various nuances of the Code, even if you are not yet part of the New Order. This is stupendous, and should be celebrated! Even those of you who argue that you still mistakenly think you should be left to steal ice from New Order space while you mine unpermitted while watching movies or taking naps have been brought together by the understanding and tranquility the New Order represents.

My spirits are once again uplifted by seeing familiar faces, including those who once again make coy and playful statements that they've never heard of the New Order, or that the New Order has no effect on them. We readily accept your flirting, seeing as though many of you are once again posting in a thread about the New Order. If, truly, the New Order has not inspired you as it has done so with so many others, you would not be at this fine gathering today!

I am also pleased to see so many people having fun with the comedic notion that everyone is an alt of James 315, and that I, as one of these apparently infinite alts, single handedly comprise all of Goonswarm. It would be a grand gag, indeed, for one person to command such a great army of clones and personalities unbeknownst to the rest of the population. This joke is great, for by making it, you acknowledge the genius and leadership of James 315 to extents no mortal could actually attain. The Savior of HighSec is indeed a great man. Everyone in this thread is surely an alt of the Supreme Protector.

We of the Order are pleased that our efforts to bring the community together are being so well accepted. The Agents and Knights of the Order spend much time ensuring that everyone, like the OP, can have the proper time to reflect upon the Code, and what it means to them. The Code works in mysterious ways at times, and it is up to each of us to determine how it affects our daily lives.

It is naught but the leadership, wisdom, and grace of the illustrious James that has brought us together today.

Are you being serious?

Friend Tesal, can you deny that we would not be having this exchange without the glory of the New Order lighting the way for us?

< Least blues of any sovholding alliance in 0.0

now what?

Now what? That's easy. Stop whining and demanding that the ship you're not even playing is still there when you bother to come back to the game.

Highsec systems are already pretty crowded, forcing those players into more congested systems seems like it would be unpleasant. It might be nice to relax security in some of the lower highsec systems, do away with faction police in .5 and .6 maybe.

And on the other side; null is too isolated. It would be nice to have "no bubble" null areas. And more options for docking in null. That would allow people to work out there without sov, and the powers that "own" that territory would have to actively defend it, rather than just harvesting resources.

Hurr durr I like putting words in other players' mouths.

FTFY

I see you accurately quoted yourself in that. Thanks!

No problem. Now kindly taste my anus.

Now what? That's easy. Stop whining and demanding that highseccers play differently.

NPC null is a thing though, its jsut not widely promoted which is a shame, id like to see 4 islands of high, surrounded by low, followed by a border of NPC null and then proper null. That way people could progress a little smoother. Sorting out the income levels for all those bands of space would be tough but probably a little more clean cut.

I dont think a no bubles null is a good idea though, keep the bubles and teach people how to deal with them, plus if the amount of null entrances was increased dramatically it would be less of an issue

I thought it was quite useful in seperating the intelligent people (knowledgeable idealists who support James 315) from the unthinking degenerates, effeminately ruled by their emotions and unable to even read more then a paragraph before their simian forebrains began to shut down (themepark lobbyists).

Hi Nicolo, it seems to me that your problem has an inbuilt solution.

If the NPC folk you harp on about constantly, get bored as you assume they will, then they will leave, as you say in your post above mine.

Also, glad to see that your well thought out, dispassionate, logical posts on the issue of NPC folk are not influenced by any 'effeminate emotions'

The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable.

The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied.

I thought it was quite useful in seperating the intelligent people (knowledgeable idealists who support James 315) from the unthinking degenerates, effeminately ruled by their emotions and unable to even read more then a paragraph before their simian forebrains began to shut down (themepark lobbyists).