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Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
63
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:42:00 -
[361] - Quote
ITTigerClawIK wrote:EVE's version of scientology or something?
Tl;DR
Yes. We are clearing those miners.
( gets out his e-meter suppositrodes ) Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
63
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:44:00 -
[362] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity I fully intended to respond to this with some obscure silly activity that is technically a PvE only activity, but I actually can't think of one.
Ship spinning at the dock.
See how big you can make the number at the bottom.
Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Vin King
State War Academy Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:51:00 -
[363] - Quote
Agent Trask wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity I fully intended to respond to this with some obscure silly activity that is technically a PvE only activity, but I actually can't think of one. Ship spinning at the dock. See how big you can make the number at the bottom.
Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. 315 4 CSM 8 |

Tesal
195
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Posted - 2013.02.16 00:52:00 -
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Vin King wrote:Agent Trask wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity I fully intended to respond to this with some obscure silly activity that is technically a PvE only activity, but I actually can't think of one. Ship spinning at the dock. See how big you can make the number at the bottom. Only if you're spinning a noobship, though.
Look at all the witty repartee.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
827
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Posted - 2013.02.16 02:15:00 -
[365] - Quote
Vin King wrote:Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning. |

Corey Fumimasa
Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive
133
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Posted - 2013.02.16 02:28:00 -
[366] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Vin King wrote:Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning. This is entirely inadequate, Eve pilots deserve better PvE encounters than just pod spinning. I would like to propose an auto pod spin feature! one that is clearly labeled and easily understood. Perhaps the space bar. With red octagons throughout the hanger labeled "STOP" in languages and fonts clearly understandable by all player skill levels.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3416
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Posted - 2013.02.16 02:37:00 -
[367] - Quote
Corey Fumimasa wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Vin King wrote:Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning. This is entirely inadequate, Eve pilots deserve better PvE encounters than just pod spinning. I would like to propose an auto pod spin feature! one that is clearly labeled and easily understood. Perhaps the space bar. With red octagons throughout the hanger labeled "STOP" in languages and fonts clearly understandable by all player skill levels. AFK spinning...? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Vin King
State War Academy Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2013.02.16 02:48:00 -
[368] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Vin King wrote:Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning. This is entirely inadequate, Eve pilots deserve better PvE encounters than just pod spinning. I would like to propose an auto pod spin feature! one that is clearly labeled and easily understood. Perhaps the space bar. With red octagons throughout the hanger labeled "STOP" in languages and fonts clearly understandable by all player skill levels. AFK spinning...?
Let it hereby be known by all that AFK pod spinning has been determined to be the only PVE activity in the game. 315 4 CSM 8 |

Tesal
195
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Posted - 2013.02.16 02:50:00 -
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Vin King wrote: Let it hereby be known by all that AFK pod spinning has been determined to be the only PVE activity in the game.
Yay!!! I'm a pvper.
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Corey Fumimasa
Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive
135
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Posted - 2013.02.16 02:53:00 -
[370] - Quote
Tesal wrote:Vin King wrote: Let it hereby be known by all that AFK pod spinning has been determined to be the only PVE activity in the game.
Yay!!! I'm a pvper. Welcome sister Tesal.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |

Torakenat
Noghri Strike Force
49
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Posted - 2013.02.16 03:59:00 -
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Am I the only sensible ******* in the game?
To think James is on a crusade to change immergent gameplay is laughable at best.
He is using game play mechanics to usher in entertainment and profit. Bottom line. And tbh it's not half bad.
However, I refuse to stomach that he's is some pious deity set out to fix the game and/or community.
Sure there will be tears from a section of the community who in the past only had to worry about 1% chance of a suicide gank. However, Jame's actions does not affect the game as a whole nor have any significant ripple effect other than a dead horse topic on the forums. |

Tesal
196
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Posted - 2013.02.16 04:16:00 -
[372] - Quote
Torakenat wrote:Am I the only sensible ******* in the game?
To think James is on a crusade to change immergent gameplay is laughable at best.
He is using game play mechanics to usher in entertainment and profit. Bottom line. And tbh it's not half bad.
However, I refuse to stomach that he's is some pious deity set out to fix the game and/or community.
Sure there will be tears from a section of the community who in the past only had to worry about 1% chance of a suicide gank. However, Jame's actions does not affect the game as a whole nor have any significant ripple effect other than a dead horse topic on the forums.
From what I can gather, he's roleplaying a cult leader.
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Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.02.16 04:32:00 -
[373] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Joran Dravius wrote: Carry my argument for me? You were just saying you wanted gankers removed because Eve is "dying" and I replied because I didn't notice it was posted by the idiot brigade. If I had it my way Eve would go back to how it was when I started. Concord would be killable and escapable. I'd remove jump drives to keep freighters full of goodies from teleporting past gate camps while I was at it.
The game grows because things like that were balanced out of the game. Carebears and mixed playstyles are allowing the game to grow but misguided players want to cut that away. For shame. Ganker mouth breather, for shame. Dont let these null sec masters of deception and misinformation lead you around by the nose. Who will you gank when there is no one left to gank? Puppet Masters at work. The dogs are hunting. Juice is a source of sugar. Do your homework. Firstly, why do you assume I'm a ganker? I don't even like to be in high any more than I have to. They might as well change its name to WoW sec. Secondly, I assume i'd be killing the same sorts of people I was before the change in question happened. Finally, why do you think turning Eve into a WoW clone will be good for the game despite numerous examples of it having the exact opposite effect in other games? |

Aurora Nyx
Hidden Squid Society
0
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Posted - 2013.02.16 07:42:00 -
[374] - Quote
James 3:15
English Standard Version (ESV)
'This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic.'
I liked New Order, they were a good group and the combination of new wave and electronic music always had my foot tapping. So if James wants to bring back New Order i say we let him, although without Peter Hook it's not going to be the same.
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
984
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Posted - 2013.02.16 11:41:00 -
[375] - Quote
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied.
Got any proof of that, mate? Look at all the other MMOs that cater to carebears and follow the wow-trend: They're wastelands after the initial bubble bursts. SWTOR had to go Free to Play after a ridiculously short time it was so abysmal, and that was one of the new MMOs that had the best chance at succeeding (franchise recognition, the team behind it, the massive resources available to them, etc)
Conversely, we have ten straight years of evidence suggesting that catering to the be-an-*******-in-a-sandbox crowd works just fine, and the occasional blip along the way have been a result of NOT focusing on things for that crowd (eg incarna) |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
984
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Posted - 2013.02.16 11:43:00 -
[376] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Vin King wrote:Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning.
Pod spinning is actually far too risky, what if during your frantic click-drag-clicking you misclick on the undock button? You're now in risky pvp space!
Clearly we need some kind of safety mechanism to protect the Poor Newbs or EVE WILL DIE |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
984
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Posted - 2013.02.16 11:47:00 -
[377] - Quote
TheGunslinger42 wrote:Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied. Got any proof of that, mate? Look at all the other MMOs that cater to carebears and follow the wow-trend: They're wastelands after the initial bubble bursts. SWTOR had to go Free to Play after a ridiculously short time it was so abysmal, and that was one of the new MMOs that had the best chance at succeeding (franchise recognition, the team behind it, the massive resources available to them, etc) Conversely, we have ten straight years of evidence suggesting that catering to the be-an-*******-in-a-sandbox crowd works just fine, and the occasional blip along the way have been a result of NOT focusing on things for that crowd (eg incarna)
Lord whatever is trolling.
Please ignore him. This is not a signature. |

Lord Ovuld Feish
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.02.16 14:54:00 -
[378] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied. Got any proof of that, mate? Look at all the other MMOs that cater to carebears and follow the wow-trend: They're wastelands after the initial bubble bursts. SWTOR had to go Free to Play after a ridiculously short time it was so abysmal, and that was one of the new MMOs that had the best chance at succeeding (franchise recognition, the team behind it, the massive resources available to them, etc) Conversely, we have ten straight years of evidence suggesting that catering to the be-an-*******-in-a-sandbox crowd works just fine, and the occasional blip along the way have been a result of NOT focusing on things for that crowd (eg incarna) Lord whatever is trolling. Please ignore him. I love how you have spent so much time online that you can prove 100% unequivocally what trolling is.
I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now. |

Corey Fumimasa
Royal Caldari Imperial Guard Imperium Directive
139
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Posted - 2013.02.16 15:11:00 -
[379] - Quote
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.
And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise.
What is it that you want to see in Eve?
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Black Legion.
909
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Posted - 2013.02.16 16:24:00 -
[380] - Quote
For some reason I'm in the mood for french onion dip. |

Lord Ovuld Feish
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.02.16 17:19:00 -
[381] - Quote
Corey Fumimasa wrote:Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.
And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise. What is it that you want to see in Eve? Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden.
You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.
Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec
You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
445
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Posted - 2013.02.16 17:22:00 -
[382] - Quote
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.
Nope, nowhere in Eve are you safe or immune from the actions of others.
Too bad, so sad. Never gonna happen.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
125
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Posted - 2013.02.16 17:28:00 -
[383] - Quote
Today, I read this thread and I''ve seen a whole new level of bolloxology. |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
126
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Posted - 2013.02.16 17:37:00 -
[384] - Quote
Vaeliel wrote:Part 6
He has a following, he has effectively polarized the playerbase
lmfao,,, i read it all,, it was funny as hell, but this line,,, lol,,, this line is the best.   
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
57
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Posted - 2013.02.16 17:38:00 -
[385] - Quote
Varius Xeral wrote:Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec. Nope, nowhere in Eve are you safe or immune from the actions of others. Too bad, so sad. Never gonna happen.
It called being docked up or in station. |

Bane Veradun
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.16 17:41:00 -
[386] - Quote
James and his ilk are filled to overflowing with fear. It seeps from their very pores, like tears from their souls, it stains the interstellar void with its stench. He is not a man, but a puppet, and he turns others into mindless, formless pets, serving not a greater cause, but a shallow, pitiful ideal. His masters pull strings and he dances a jig for them, the jester-bard that sings and dances to amuse the simple minded onto the easy path.
Such is not a man, nor are those who blindly follow. While you only co-opt the darkness for your petty purposes, I was borne of the darkness. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5744
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:27:00 -
[387] - Quote
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.
Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec
Nope, this is not the spirit of Eve, highsec is not, never has been and never should be about absolute safety and exemption from PvP. Nor should it be an area where people can avoid interaction with others. This is a multi player game, not a single player game, if you want a space based single player game, there's always x3, freelancer, etc.
Piracy and PvP belong in highsec as much as they belong in lowsec and nullsec. PvP and the resultant destruction is what drives the economy of Eve. If you don't like what PvPers and pirates are doing, then do something about it in game.
I am Ohm of Borg, Resistance is Voltage/Current. |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
984
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:30:00 -
[388] - Quote
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.
And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise. What is it that you want to see in Eve? Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden. You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec. Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP.
This idea of being able to "not interact with others" is stupid and cannot be accomplished within EVE. It's one giant shard shared by everyone, one big economy shared by everyone, etc. You cannot opt out of interaction with people unless you completely redesign the game and take away some of the core defining aspects (that are clearly why it's survived and grown for ten straight years, while the countless wow-lite mmos have the lifespan of a mayfly)
It truly astonishes me that people miss the entire point of EVE online and continue to play it for so long, and that they think these kinds of suggestions would be improvements to the game |

Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO
1188
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:43:00 -
[389] - Quote
There is such a thing as Public Speaking, and in this case Public Posting.
Make your point, i dont give a **** about James 420.
Where I am. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1157
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:45:00 -
[390] - Quote
tl;dr
Oh, and James343425223432409 alt detected. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
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