The suspect flagging system simply requires a little more thinking about how you capture your prey. No longer are you safe just harassing one person. You have to get them to aggress you.

All this focus on harassing miners in hisec and complaining about hisec security mechanics is missing something. Since you raised Trammel in your long, pointless rant, you should pay more attention to why Trammel ruined Ultima Online: the main reason is that everything you could do in Felucca, you could also do in Trammel with no risk.

Let's have a look at EVE Online: can you do everything in hisec that you can do in lowsec or nullsec? No capitals, no bubbles, no reaction labs, no moon harvesting, certain ores are missing. So right there at the base of the economy, hisec is not going to become Trammel. How can you ensure that hisec doesn't devolve into Trammel? Encourage CCP to move all industry into player hands. There should no longer be instant refining of unlimited volumes of materials. There should no longer be copious quantities of manufacturing lines available at NPC facilities.

The Trammel-isation of hisec is not going to happen. Your fears are unfounded. The platform of James 315 is based on untruths.

Because myths hold great power over the human mind.

And carebears are the whiniest motherfuckers on the planet.

congratulations, you managed to produce three whole paragraphs that are completely irrelevant to the topic. i strongly encourage you to read the OP and actually try to understand it.

All this focus on harassing miners in hisec and complaining about hisec security mechanics is missing something. Since you raised Trammel in your long, pointless rant, you should pay more attention to why Trammel ruined Ultima Online: the main reason is that everything you could do in Felucca, you could also do in Trammel with no risk.

I seriously skipped almost the entirety of the OP's posts.

The argument that Trammel killed UO doesn't hold up because of the fact Seige Perilous existed and continue to exists to this day. Anyone who wanted old school PvP could go to Seige Perilous and get their fix.

What killed UO to the most extent was EQ and then WoW.

Actually you can still play UO today if you want to play.

I will be the first person to log onto a "Trammel" Eve.

If I understood your OP correctly, Trammel was more populated than the original. So players DIDN'T WANT RISK.

I totally understand your desire for a risk free game where you can progress unhindered. I tanked the old Burning Crusade instances on my night elf warrior. There's a reason WoW clones make approximately all of the money.

However, what I don't understand is why it's so important to you that you destroy a game I love to get that.

I totally understand your desire for a risk free game where you can progress unhindered. I tanked the old Burning Crusade instances on my night elf warrior. There's a reason WoW clones make approximately all of the money.

However, what I don't understand is why it's so important to you that you destroy a game I love to get that.

People enjoy playing different ways. Why do YOU want to destroy the game for someone else rather than simply focusing on the areas of space in which you operate in? it seems like a simple equation to me: raise the reward of low sec and null sec compared to High sec and leave those who want to toil in High Sec alone. Honestly, when I looked at minerbuming.com all I saw a goonish extortion racket and nothing else.

Seems if you really cared about the game you love you would be pushing for positive changes to null sec and low sec instead of trying to blame everything on changes to high sec.

A lot of folks find it convenient to point fingers towards high sec and forget that the individuals and corps in low and null had a hand it making it the snoozer it is now.

"Blame the carebear!" "Blame high sec!"................all while they log off the forums and return to their safe little carebear homes in null sec counting their monies from their risk free activities.


What they really want is to have their risk free activities to make their isk and turn your part of Eve into their playground.

Hypocrites!?!?! The lot of them.

Also many are misrepresenting my points; Highsec is the focus of James 315's current operations, but I highly advocate buffing the hell out of Lowsec and Null, because as was rightly pointed out several times in this thread there are problems with all of it.

I will be the first person to log onto a "Trammel" Eve.

If I understood your OP correctly, Trammel was more populated than the original. So players DIDN'T WANT RISK.

It's understandable that it looks that way to you, but you are mistaken in a fundamental way: I want to preserve the game's initial values, not destroy them.

I would never log into Tera or WoW and start demanding that the developers change mechanics to favor an unforgiving world where every action carries risk and consequence.

It had a brief spike matched and surpassed by previous PVP UO expansions, then as the 'themepark' aspect began to get old everyone left. Short term gain, long term detriment to the game.

It had a brief spike matched and surpassed by previous PVP UO expansions, then as the 'themepark' aspect began to get old everyone left. Short term gain, long term detriment to the game.

It's understandable that it looks that way to you, but you are mistaken in a fundamental way: I want to preserve the game's initial values, not destroy them.

I would never log into Tera or WoW and start demanding that the developers change mechanics to favor an unforgiving world where every action carries risk and consequence.

Adventure requires you to go out into the unknown too seek danger and forutune, not just stepping out the front door.