Simple math disagrees with you both. Whatever you may think, you now have 9 effective launchers on your drake, as opposed to the 8.75 effective launchers you had yesterday.

Wonder what weapons Caldari should use ?

*snip*

Projectile : 127,884 kills
Hybrids : 81,747 kills
Energy : 53,393 Kills
Missiles 14,661 kills (+ torpedoes 10,672)


We can clearly see, that rockets really needed nerf...

only way you lose training time is if you failed to put a long skill in the queue which everyone should do knowing CCPs performance with previous patches.

Exactly my freaking point haha, They are simplifying the game because people complain it is to hard. Well if anyone was around playing World of warcraft back when it first started and the 3nd expansion people started complaining about how hard the game was having to do this little thing or compare things or experiment etc. Well 2 expansions later you log on to the game and you don't even have to do anything to get everything in the game anymore. and i quote "just by playing you get everything"..... The people ruined the game because there was always something wrong or to many options it took to long to do this or that etc. Now everyone is starting to leave the game. I know because i own shares in Activision the parent company of Blizzard. They tried to carter to the players to keep and or make there stocks rise and it screwed the players in the end. In no way am i saying EvE is remotely close to WoW in a playing sense but don't forget money and greed corrupts and if left unchecked will screw the bread givers. Just my opinion as I have seen it from the other side as well as the game side.

Looks like some dev played with NPC vs drones settings again.

After previous patch I switched to faction Sentries. The double Shields and Armor HP (up to 2.3k) allowed them to actually have some time in space and I didn't have to reduce my DPS to 80% or even 60% most of the time. With this patch they are dropping like flies. At a price tag of 3-4M each, that is expensive ammo. Maybe I should "adjust" like everybody else and drop drones and missiles and stick with guns (projectiles?)

Yes, there is a point.

With the 10% bonus to Kinetic damage instead of 5%, that's a net buff in DPS.

Also, it costs less to fit (-1 Launcher).

I get 726 DPS with my HAM Drake, About 500 with my PODLA Drake. But then again you probably don't know what a PODLA Drake is.

Okay so is there a point to taking away one highslot from the drake, it already does crap for damage as is.... why dont we just take all damage away and make it a floating trash can I want my highslot back. lets not even get into the sig radius. I spent all that time working into a drake and for what now the ship is **** I want my isk back or my ship back one or the other.

Update itself didnt go that well for me....

Update FAILED
Repair FAILED
Update #2 FAILED
Update #3 with "higher permissions" Failed


Deleted EvE and now re-downloading

not impressed.

Same ****

With all the rebalancing, I am leaving.

I no longer seem to be able to hover over a ship, wreck, or otherwise in space and get the same info I'd get from clicking on it. Is this intentional or a bug?

I think that th Brutix should have had its rep bonus switched for a falloff bonus. i know active tanking was just buffed but that does not help the major downfall of the brutix, that is it 5km range with Void loaded, i know hybrids are supposed to be close range but when you cant even hit at web range there is a problem

I no longer seem to be able to hover over a ship, wreck, or otherwise in space and get the same info I'd get from clicking on it. Is this intentional or a bug?

Everything looks good with the exception of 1 thing.

- "With really good skills, NPC corp standing and a 50% base output NPC station you can now actually get a 100% refinery output."

That kinda irks me, as I just recently spent 150 million on an implant that will allow me to get 100% refining. Yes, 150 million isk is peanuts. But the fact that a previously neccesary item is now mostly obsolete seems quite silly. Why bother getting refining implants at all? The only people who will be worried about their refining rates enough to quibble over a few percentages will be people that have millions of ore to refine, and of those people probably 99.9% of them will be heavy industry skilled anyways.

Coles notes:
- Refining implants = useless.

please don't

Jesus, this thread reads like a techblog being discussed by politicians.

You guys had plenty of warning. Drake Missile Nerf? You must be playing a different game. Caldari useless for PvP? Naga's, Harpies, Rokhs, Drakes, MOA'S(This baby got a life!) Cyclone being made usefull? HOSHI it's a nerf, I r stupid to fit ship.


My only real gripe is that screen shaking. Sure, it's nice, but after some time it gets anoying to look at. And the AAR seems a bit.....useless, but I shall get back to this after actually getting a chance at using it.

Other than that, Pro Patch.

Covert Cynosural Field Generators may now be fitted on any Strategic Cruiser that has the Covert Reconfiguration subsystem fitted, as well as on Blockade Runners.


Well, you had better add a highslot to the Viator, Crane & Prorator. Currently, only the Prowler will be able to fit a cloak & covert cyno.

Adding this is pointless at the moment, thus giving the Minmatar Blockade runners an advantage over all the other races. Much better to have waited.

Awesome piece of work. Nice one