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Hargle Maulerant
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.23 04:12:00 -
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This is fine. When are they going to roll out pets for the commander's quarters though? I want a tribble.
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kaje Nosha
Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.02.23 04:47:00 -
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The turret that was removed on the prophecy is one of them that was in a place that didn't look stupid. Please fix this, it bugs me to know end that one of the wing turrets is missing. |
Komatose
Koral Ship Design
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Posted - 2013.02.23 06:29:00 -
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KingSkunk wrote:Eve is now dead for sure what a shame I was once telling myself that EVE is a game that I will play forever after the last year of all this nerffing that has been going on has changed my mind I think I will be closing my accounts for good this week so good bye EVE online forever]
You will be missed. ... ... Really. |
Quayli Myung
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.23 12:10:00 -
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I'm Gallente because I liked the starting attribues of this particular race, but I soon started flying caldari because I wanted to passive shield tank (missiles seemed to complement this style of tanking so I soon began to focus on that as well). I like the idea that there have been more ships added that use missiles lately, but there are not many ships capable of passive shield tanking. Those who don't passive tank may not truly understand this. People are not upset about the drake simply because of a high slot. It takes a much longer time to effectively tank with passive shields than it does any other tank and to make that worse, there aren't many ships that do it well and the few that do require a lot of time retraining frigates etc because they may be for a different faction and/or use guns rather than missiles, etc. Anyone who has used a drake knows that their dps was already terrible to begin with. The DPS issue, if anything, is more of a "straw that broke the camels back" kind of thing. Passive tanking in itself is a drawback in some ways compared to other tanking since it requires fitting more slots all around just for that purpose and by default produces lower dps when compared to active tanking.
I think that people are upset because of the time spent training to be able to use a drake effectively and to now feel that they have basically wasted it. Firstly, there are very few ships available for you to use. Secondly, to passive tank effectively, it requires a lot of time maxing out several different skills that are primarily for passive shield tanking and now with the new faction bc skills, you are stuck even more with only being able to use your current faction and your class of ships...except that there is no faction that really specializes in passive shield tanking (like gallente specializes in armor tanking) so you will likely have to train even more if you need to find another ship that can tank effectively or if you want to have a passive tank HAC because drake is missiles while most other ships tend to use guns. Even among caldari, the number of ships that passive tank well are few and far inbetween. Hence the popularity of the drake...
When you talk roles, the drake already fit its role fine as it was. It was a lower tier command ship that countered its low dps to tank well so that it could do its main job more effectively - wing/fleet command. The popularity of the drake was not because it was just some awesome ship or that it was so much better than other ships, but I believe it was because there aren't many other passive shield tanking ships as accessible and effective at it to make it worthwhile. If you wanted to passive shield tank you were pretty much flying a drake because there weren't many other options available. The caldari seem to be the faction that caters the most towards passive shield capable ships so this just sealed its fate...
But the problem here is the mentality that if a certain ship has a high percentage of people using it, it must be overpowered. In an environment like Eve where you have so many roles and tactics in play...this should have been looked at from more angles than that. When you have a line of certificates angled at just this style of play it should not be a surprise that a high number of people would choose this ship when there really aren't many other alternatives within this niche tanking style. I hate the idea that I'll likely need to wait a month or so to train for the effective use of a command ship (although they don't look very promising) or even much longer to train some other faction to "try out" another ship that may or may not be effective at my preferred style of tanking.
I hope that one day there will be a faction that was dedicated more towards this style of tanking so that those who enjoy passive shield tanking wouldn't have to feel trapped in only being able to use a mere handful of ships. This way it wouldn't be so necessary to have to try other faction passive tank ships just to find one that works for you. |
Kill4Jesse J
Meltem Down Mining Corp.
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Posted - 2013.02.23 12:50:00 -
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KingSkunk wrote:Eve is now dead for sure what a shame I was once telling myself that EVE is a game that I will play forever after the last year of all this nerffing that has been going on has changed my mind I think I will be closing my accounts for good this week so good bye EVE online forever] Yea Im with you I don't plan on reativating the 3 accounts I have either.
And Komatose adding insults to someone just cause they have a different view than yours just really shows your age and how childish you really are. Bet u never have flown a drake or a cane and your probably one of the ones that complained about them. What Cause you lost to one and you was in a destroyer trying to take on a drake. |
Fate Smith
Harkonnen Manufacturing
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Posted - 2013.02.23 13:14:00 -
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Everyone else has already said it. Most everyone here is complaining about the Ferox get screwed but the Drake took an equally large hit for what it was. Losing one of its launcher high slots more than less defeats the point of the ship. In the hands of a high skill level pilot it can easily compete for damage with entry skill battleships... but thats kind of the point of this game.
the point of the game isn't to balance a Drake with a skill lvl 5 pilot with a BS with skill levels around 2..
Just means my T2 rigged drake will now be sitting indefinitely. It can't possibly compete losing 14% of its dps.
So at this time you've either eliminated the need for cruisers or battlecruisers for entry level pilots. No reason to spend wads of initially hard earned cash fitting out a tanker BC when for the same money you get a BS that is vastly superior. |
Snopzet
Inglourious Squirrels
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Posted - 2013.02.23 13:29:00 -
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SN-5004-9177-1P wrote:Been trying for days now to find a different kind of income... cause Sansha ratting in a mjonir HAM drake is just not possible anymore (with my skills)... Thnx for taking my only viable form of income from me CCP.. Just cant kill a Sansha BS anymore... now I'll just have to wait till my skills get better before I can start making ISK again... You really know how to spoil my fun in the game! I was really patient .... just a couple of weeks ago I was finally able to kill Rats in belts without having to jump out.. Now I can't even kill one Sansha Lord or other BS at all anymore... Bonus to Kinetic is nice for some ppl but totaly useless for me being in Sansha space (EM & Thermal)... Tried all other races bc too same story though. Just lacking both DPS and Tank now...
So you're saying the drake is now inline with the other BCs? Mission accomplished!? :)
1. Go to a Guristas or Serpentis region 2. Use scourge missiles 3. ???? 4. Profit! |
Bristoll
Catastrophe Understated Infinite Aggression
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Posted - 2013.02.23 13:38:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Lord Thingol wrote:Because I can say with full awarness, that Caldari is the worst race for PVP today. http://eve-kill.net/?a=top203 Caldari ships in top 4. 4 Caldari ships in top 6.
Are those numbers adjusted for scale? That is to say, are they adjusted to count for the fact that just about every noob to the game rolls a Caldari pilot at first and there are therefore more Caldari ships running around in PvP? |
Kanidatari
Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate
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Posted - 2013.02.23 13:44:00 -
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When and why was the F9 action for camera wiping out all windows and info who made it perfect for print screens removed? Is there any good substitue for this lovely action? |
Tara Maroo
The Harem
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Posted - 2013.02.23 15:26:00 -
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Listain Kurvorra wrote:Okay so is there a point to taking away one highslot from the drake, it already does crap for damage as is.... why dont we just take all damage away and make it a floating trash can I want my highslot back. lets not even get into the sig radius. I spent all that time working into a drake and for what now the ship is **** I want my isk back or my ship back one or the other.
It's like you're in TEST. QQ more |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.02.23 20:24:00 -
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Kanidatari wrote:When and why was the F9 action for camera wiping out all windows and info who made it perfect for print screens removed? Is there any good subsitute for this lovely action?
ctrl+f9
unless you've screwed up your own settings and wiped the hotkey.
hit escape, pick the shortcuts tab. pick the general tab on that. you're looking for 'toggle user interface visibility'. second from the bottom. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities.As well as mysql and CSV/XLS conversions of the Static Data Extract. |
Annihilious
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.23 20:31:00 -
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They need to change the name of the game to Nerf Online.
This whole thing about balancing is such crap. It's just turning ships that were fun into under powered junk.... Pathetic...
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Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:33:00 -
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ok, let me chime in on this from my own perspective on behalf of my multiple accounts.
the prophecy got turned into a drone boat, problem is, I already have 4 or 5 domis and 4 snakes at least 1 Gila all of which were/are drone boats and all of which have been pretty much made useless by the AI changes and now the prophecy has been added to the list of crap ships that once served a great purpose. I didn't train or fit the prophecy to use drones, I trained that ship for beamage, i trained the drone ships to use drones and now they pretty much all sit in the hangar collecting dust or in a can if I've already gotten around to repackaging them.
The drake. the drake isn't that bad, but, it's also not what it used to be either and honestly, it was a great little ship for a lower SP person to be competitive in. now, not so much until a higher SP lvl is reached if I understand it all correctly.
the resistance mod changes I trained comps for a reason and I fly both active and passive fit ships.
the drone window in space has been borked for a long time, flashes out then opens minimized, not on every ship, just some. persistence seems to be on the wrong things, my hangar's inventory windows constantly close when i re-dock, they used to stay open, same with corp hangar windows, if i had them open when I left the station, they'd open when i returned, now, they don't, same with my hangar, used to, now doesn't.
window placement. for the most part, ship windows in space seem to be great about retaining their spot when I open them, in stations though, not so much, orca windows seem to hold out ok, but inventory and station windows don't.
anyway, i will adapt, I always do, and I'm not gonna emo/rage quit or profess to on the forums, I simply have to agree with the sentiments of so many folks here that you really shouldn't fix something that's not broken.
o/ Celly Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Lacuna Austrene
Xomi Resonate
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Posted - 2013.02.24 03:30:00 -
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I would like to see some sort of confirmation dialogue when requesting a duel. |
Elisia Lox
Fox inc.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 08:49:00 -
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Dueling pop-up invite issue
Please introduce a settings option to turn off all dueling invites. Getting bombarded with invites as my hauler leaves stations is going to end painfully at some point.
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Listain Kurvorra
Zoltus Nebula Border World Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.02.24 11:03:00 -
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I can't log the hell in!!!
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Brutus Baccus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.24 11:16:00 -
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Ok, to start off just let me say, I am a Drake pilot. *ducks the thrown shoes and empty beer bottles* I started playing some 6 or 7 years ago and the Drake became my go to ship. I stopped playing a little over 4 years ago and jusr recently reactivated my accounts to find all of the changes. I have to say...
I am beyond pleased! If i am honest my little missle boat was over tanked way back then, I mean I fought a Lazer cannon battleship to a stand still with in PvP with a t2 fitted BC?!?! It was overpowered and broken. Now, post patch, not only did the "NERF" not affect me at all for PvE applications, i wound up swapping around a few mods and a rig, i do MORE damage and have no trouble tanking missions still. I cant complain. At all
As for the latest patch, one thing i have noticed is that sometimes while i am running my salvager, when i loot all then close the window for some reason my ships caro hold is open. All in all though i love the patch and the game.
P.S. Just wanted to mention, if it werent for the CCP guys I wouldnt have met my wife. We met playing eve. So sencirely, thank you. |
Dunpeal Hunter
Zervas Aeronautics Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.02.24 11:17:00 -
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Me neither! OMG, i need those daily 19 hours of playing eve online!!! |
Dunpeal Hunter
Zervas Aeronautics Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.02.24 11:20:00 -
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Brutus Baccus wrote:P.S. Just wanted to mention, if it werent for the CCP guys I wouldnt have met my wife. We met playing eve. So sencirely, thank you.
Nice! I wonder how many marriages eve is responsible for right now..... |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 11:24:00 -
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Listain Kurvorra wrote:Give me back my Battlecruisers they were fine the way they were =(
No please not , i like the new bc change , kee[ it up
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Lyco Eistiras
Imperial Dream
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:15:00 -
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Well nice patch..
My idea, i run multiple clients on a Core I7, 9 GB Ram, enough space.
Since the eve update. i see way more random eve-client crashes than before.
I hope next patch will issue multi use of eve client.
Also, i hope, after many petitions, they can fix the : How many days left till expiration banner on the EVE clients. On 2 i get this message 2 days before we have to pay (or plex).
On the other 3 accounts, there is never a message saying something about a possible subscription expiration.
Also : when opting in for a 2 month subscription, whis actually 61 days of time, they just give you 60.
So it was a sad story for me this weekend, when i found out my 2 main accounts where expired, without even an warning.
Hope things get better in the end, i still like eve...but sometimes it gives me discomfort.
Reported the Expiration Issue a lot of time, now i thought, a good time to adress this.
Thanks for reading.
Fly safe |
Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.24 19:07:00 -
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Elisia Lox wrote:Dueling pop-up invite issue
Please introduce a settings option to turn off all dueling invites. Getting bombarded with invites as my hauler leaves stations is going to end painfully at some point.
hit esc, then go to audio and chat tab, check the box under dueling that says "Auto reject invitations"
o/ Celly Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Kanidatari
Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:16:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:
ctrl+f9
unless you've screwed up your own settings and wiped the hotkey.
hit escape, pick the shortcuts tab. pick the general tab on that. you're looking for 'toggle user interface visibility'. second from the bottom.
Thanks! ^^ Looked for it, but not good enought :) |
Klaas Bruinsma
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.24 21:51:00 -
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We went from Supervisors frequently spawning in Worlds Collide to them almost never spawning. Given that most of the spawn were low level anyway, can we have some middle ground here rather than going from one extreme to the other?
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Rasmier
Endless Winter Night R O G U E
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Posted - 2013.02.25 00:29:00 -
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even after the last mini-patch, complexes are still broken |
Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.25 03:30:00 -
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Copy/pasted from the issues thread because I'm not sure if it's a bug or if CCP got drunk and did it on purpose.
I wrote:At first I thought the people complaining about drones were just noobs failing to adapt. Up until the last mission I did I had lost 2 drones total. I just lost 5 (not all at once) on the last mission and had to get help because my myrmidon is pretty much useless without drones. No matter what I did my drones got agro instantly. Small drones and medium drones same thing. I was too scared to even try heavies. Didn't matter if I had a red box on all the rats. Didn't matter if I was webbing and/or shooting them. They would immediately agro the drones as soon as said drones shot something no matter what I did. This is ridiculous and needs to be fixed or you might as well delete gallente ships from the game. |
Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.25 03:56:00 -
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Klaas Bruinsma wrote: We went from Supervisors frequently spawning in Worlds Collide to them almost never spawning. Given that most of the spawn were low level anyway, can we have some middle ground here rather than going from one extreme to the other?
Yeah, had one supervisor in each side, one would drop something, the other would not, that was fine since we don't get WC very often anyway, but now?, it's like in a desert looking for water...
o/ Celly Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Cobert18
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
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Posted - 2013.02.25 11:44:00 -
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I like the new patch and fly caldari and for those whining about the ferox getting nerfed I use it for PvE and the extra high gives more damage (using standard antimatter with the 7 highs i'm doing the same as CN antimatter in 6 highs meaning when i get more CN ammo it'll be pushing the 300dps mark which for t1 rails is pretty good) and i haven't had to change my fit from before patch other than stick another 250mm proto gauss gun on it. I've still got the entire tank on it a prop mod and the rigs. I don't see what the problem with that ship is. As for others i can't really comment as i don't fly them but i'm loving the changes especially to the moa and for gallente the vexor as they are absolute beasts for PvP, with t2 guns you can be pumping 500dps out of the moa and have a 50k tank?? what's not to like about that? With the vexor fit i use the new honeycombing skill is making that thing even more of a demon in fleet.
For those going into flying a BC get that skill to 5 ASAP as it with the next expansion round the corner and racial skills coming if you get all cruiser skills 3, BC 5 and dessie 5(as you have to have frig 4 for cruiser) you will be up for up to 6.2mil of free SP which will put you at a massive advantage to those that join afterwards and really mean you can fit any ship with minimal skilling.
Keep up the good work CCP! |
Benedictus de Suede
Norsewing Naval Command
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Posted - 2013.02.25 12:45:00 -
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kaje Nosha wrote:The turret that was removed on the prophecy is one of them that was in a place that didn't look stupid. Please fix this, it bugs me to know end that one of the wing turrets is missing.
The same goes for the Nighthawk. For some strange reason the only logical place, the "top" and the "bottom" slot to put a cannon has been moved. Maximum freedom of movement (for rotating turrets and launchers) should be the guiding principle and a clue where to put the weapon slots. It make no sense placing a weapon batteries where there are a lot of stuff in the way.
For me this isn-¦t a big issue but i looks stupid and even more when the guns and turrets have to shoot through your own ship hull in order to hit the target. A little more attention for details would be appreciated. |
MainDrain
7th Deepari Defence Armada
151
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Posted - 2013.02.25 13:07:00 -
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Elisia Lox wrote:Dueling pop-up invite issue
Please introduce a settings option to turn off all dueling invites. Getting bombarded with invites as my hauler leaves stations is going to end painfully at some point.
Audio and chat settings, bottom left hand corner. It has been there all along :D |
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