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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:42:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:
Thanks for displaying a level of arrogance expected of an unsuccessful CSM candidate.
I'm confused. How am I an unsuccessful CSM candidate? I got elected both times I ran, and got the 3rd highest vote total ever last time around. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Thorien Greenwood
Tactical Tea Baggers Get Off My Lawn
13
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:44:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Womyn Power wrote:I did you the good service of presenting my argument in a logical and easy to understand format. You respond with personal attacks.
All I ask is you refute the argument without sticking to the doctrine of 'we are all equal under the rainbows so whats mine is yours' that is so prevalent among your kind. Your argument was rose-tinted la-de-da reasoning to support a racist viewpoint. I mean, you can use the power of the internet in your own time to realise why what you advocate is deeply flawed, but no, it really is useless to argue with your ilk, because nothing that can be said on the issue will ever matter to your core belief: "I am racist" Please show me the positive fruits of multiculturalism whereby a nation has been improved by mass immigration of unskilled workers who refuse to assimilate to the host countries culture. Show me one example plz. (the example where masses of unskilled white colonialization into non-white lands obviously don't count here, unless ofc you're a racist :3)
Irish immigration to the United States.
Chinese Immigration to the West.
I'd be willing to be controversial and argue that Mexican immigration to the US has benefited us at their detriment but I don't feel like opening that can of worms. |

Space Wookie
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:45:00 -
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Thorien Greenwood wrote: All I ask is you refute the argument without sticking to the doctrine of 'we are all equal under the rainbows so whats mine is yours' that is so prevalent among your kind.
Enough words have been said about neo-***** and white supremacists at this point in history that it is hardly worth my time to add more. The only proper response is disgust.
If it wasn't for the national socialists, jews wouldn't have a country. :colbert: |

Frying Doom
2024
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:46:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Womyn Power wrote:I did you the good service of presenting my argument in a logical and easy to understand format. You respond with personal attacks.
All I ask is you refute the argument without sticking to the doctrine of 'we are all equal under the rainbows so whats mine is yours' that is so prevalent among your kind. Your argument was rose-tinted la-de-da reasoning to support a racist viewpoint. I mean, you can use the power of the internet in your own time to realise why what you advocate is deeply flawed, but no, it really is useless to argue with your ilk, because nothing that can be said on the issue will ever matter to your core belief: "I am racist" Please show me the positive fruits of multiculturalism whereby a nation has been improved by mass immigration of unskilled workers who refuse to assimilate to the host countries culture. Show me one example plz. (the example where masses of unskilled white colonialization into non-white lands obviously don't count here, unless ofc you're a racist :3) Australia from Vietnamese, Chinese, Greeks, Italians, ect.. people We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
295
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:47:00 -
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Two step wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:
Thanks for displaying a level of arrogance expected of an unsuccessful CSM candidate.
I'm confused. How am I an unsuccessful CSM candidate? I got elected both times I ran, and got the 3rd highest vote total ever last time around.
How the relevant have fallen GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1719
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:47:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:Please show me the positive fruits of multiculturalism whereby a nation has been improved by mass immigration of unskilled workers who refuse to assimilate to the host countries culture.
Show me one example plz.
(the example where masses of unskilled white colonialization into non-white lands obviously don't count here, unless ofc you're a racist :3)
And here is why.
Basically every argument with a racist boils down to them asking ever more loaded questions whilst screaming "YOU CANT ANSWER IT AS WRITTEN THEREFORE I AM RIGHT!" until everyone else leaves the discussion and leaves the racists playing with themselves.
e: Also, the question is so loaded I'm inclined to believe Mandozer was right. This really isn't a topic to troll about. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
171
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:48:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:I have no problem with people not voting for him because of what he says, what got me was someone said something akin to "removing him because he was a neo-scumbag."
So the former is good the later bad. Really that is about it. Don't vote for him because of how he acts not because he is a member of some political movement. You can all me oldfashioned and traditionalist, but what views people decide to drag into discussions tend to influence my opinion of them. I'm going to ask a pretty simple question here: "Are you currently of the opinion that removing Fon from the ballot is a discrimination on grounds of his political memberships, and a human rights violation?"
If you say no, then we're finally in agreement, if yes then I would like you to back it up. |

Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
295
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:49:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Womyn Power wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Womyn Power wrote:I did you the good service of presenting my argument in a logical and easy to understand format. You respond with personal attacks.
All I ask is you refute the argument without sticking to the doctrine of 'we are all equal under the rainbows so whats mine is yours' that is so prevalent among your kind. Your argument was rose-tinted la-de-da reasoning to support a racist viewpoint. I mean, you can use the power of the internet in your own time to realise why what you advocate is deeply flawed, but no, it really is useless to argue with your ilk, because nothing that can be said on the issue will ever matter to your core belief: "I am racist" Please show me the positive fruits of multiculturalism whereby a nation has been improved by mass immigration of unskilled workers who refuse to assimilate to the host countries culture. Show me one example plz. (the example where masses of unskilled white colonialization into non-white lands obviously don't count here, unless ofc you're a racist :3) Australia from Vietnamese, Chinese, Greeks, Italians, ect.. people
Nope. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |

Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
277
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:50:00 -
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in before the lock
this thread as derailed
* popcorn *
please continue
Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1251
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:50:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:tbh I think if they did it would end up in an EU court.
But whatever I feel I have pushed hard enough to defend someone whos beliefs I cannot stand long enough.
That'd be interesting.
What with Iceland not being part of the EU yet. Steve Ronuken for CSM 8 Handy tools and SDE conversions Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
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Womyn Power
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
58
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:51:00 -
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Space Wookie wrote:Thorien Greenwood wrote: All I ask is you refute the argument without sticking to the doctrine of 'we are all equal under the rainbows so whats mine is yours' that is so prevalent among your kind.
Enough words have been said about neo-***** and white supremacists at this point in history that it is hardly worth my time to add more. The only proper response is disgust.
If it wasn't for the national socialists, jews wouldn't have a country. :colbert:
If the national socialists had their way, jews would be in madagascar and this mess the allies created after WW1 in the middle east wouldn't even be an issue.
It's a clear as day example on how multiculturalism (especially in the levant of all places) can completely destroy what a society has made. |

Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
171
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:53:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Frying Doom wrote:tbh I think if they did it would end up in an EU court.
But whatever I feel I have pushed hard enough to defend someone whos beliefs I cannot stand long enough. That'd be interesting. What with Iceland not being part of the EU yet. Well, to be precise, it would not be an EU court, but the ECHR court, which is European, but not EU. Problem of course being that EU can be both the timezone/general area/continent, and the political and economic union, or one of the several institutions with loose boundaries within or around the European continent. |

HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
502
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:54:00 -
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i liked american history x because it was a tragic story of a guy who fell into the wrong crowd and made a bunch of bad decisions, realized the error in his ways and came back to reality to only experience more tragedy while you enjoyed the same movie because you saw him as a guy on the top of the world who lost his way because he couldn't do a little time in the slammer
that movie owned hard, imprison racism Follow me on twitter |

Frying Doom
2024
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:55:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Frying Doom wrote:tbh I think if they did it would end up in an EU court.
But whatever I feel I have pushed hard enough to defend someone whos beliefs I cannot stand long enough. That'd be interesting. What with Iceland not being part of the EU yet. The servers are located within England, these forums are located within England, the third part processing is located in England, subsequently it can be argued that they operate within the EU, even though the summits are held outside of the EU. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Reppyk
Yarrbear Inc. BricK sQuAD.
378
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:56:00 -
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Father Snuggles wrote:The dude prefixes his pvp-manifesto with "14/88", which stands for the fourteen words of white supremacists (""We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children.") and 88, the alphabetical coding of neonazis for "Heil Hitler", the entire soundtrack is neonazi rocksongs and he closes with the quote "For those still daring to remember their roots and live accordingly".
This isn't "as bad as you expected"? What in god's name did you expect? You missed the celtic cross right at the begining too. |

Frying Doom
2024
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:57:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Womyn Power wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Womyn Power wrote:I did you the good service of presenting my argument in a logical and easy to understand format. You respond with personal attacks.
All I ask is you refute the argument without sticking to the doctrine of 'we are all equal under the rainbows so whats mine is yours' that is so prevalent among your kind. Your argument was rose-tinted la-de-da reasoning to support a racist viewpoint. I mean, you can use the power of the internet in your own time to realise why what you advocate is deeply flawed, but no, it really is useless to argue with your ilk, because nothing that can be said on the issue will ever matter to your core belief: "I am racist" Please show me the positive fruits of multiculturalism whereby a nation has been improved by mass immigration of unskilled workers who refuse to assimilate to the host countries culture. Show me one example plz. (the example where masses of unskilled white colonialization into non-white lands obviously don't count here, unless ofc you're a racist :3) Australia from Vietnamese, Chinese, Greeks, Italians, ect.. people Nope. Come again? We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
295
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:59:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: Come again?
You made a statement and provided no evidence, so I did the same.
The ball's in your court. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1774
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:02:00 -
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Thorien Greenwood wrote:For a while I thought your gimmick was that hilarious brand of 4chan ironic racism, but this is rationalized out enough that I think you might actually be serious. Good to know who the actual ****-lords are 
Ironic 'comedy' racism typically serves as a magnet and a cloak for unironic genuine racism, particularly since racists tend not to be particularly intelligent as as such have trouble identifying such concepts as irony.
It's no surprise that 4chan or an Eve corp derived therefrom is utterly infested with very serious white supremacists and anti-semites. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Axis Raikkonen
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:02:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Frying Doom wrote:tbh I think if they did it would end up in an EU court.
But whatever I feel I have pushed hard enough to defend someone whos beliefs I cannot stand long enough. That'd be interesting. What with Iceland not being part of the EU yet. The servers are located within England, these forums are located within England, the third part processing is located in England, subsequently it can be argued that they operate within the EU, even though the summits are held outside of the EU. Also I stand corrected on the court see above. That's where it gets tricky, because the servers being in the EU has nothing to do with how CCP, a company based in Iceland, manages its internet spaceships council, which is not a legally recognized entity and really is just an extension of an Icelandic business.
It's kind of fuzzy in some respects, but definitely falls on the side of "EU can't touch this". |

Frying Doom
2024
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:04:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Frying Doom wrote: Come again?
You made a statement and provided no evidence, so I did the same. The ball's in your court. Australia Western Australian coast, settled by Italians after and before WWII did not fully assimilate to Australian ways and altered the country Chinese 1800-1900s Kalgoorlie and several other gold fields formed a sub culture and altered Australia for the better. Vietnamese 1980s+ same as above Greek 1900s interned during WWII altered large parts of south Australia a large number altered the Australian culture around them
Happy or do you need more? We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
295
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:04:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Thorien Greenwood wrote:For a while I thought your gimmick was that hilarious brand of 4chan ironic racism, but this is rationalized out enough that I think you might actually be serious. Good to know who the actual ****-lords are  Ironic 'comedy' racism typically serves as a magnet and a cloak for unironic genuine racism, particularly since racists tend not to be particularly intelligent as as such have trouble identifying such concepts as irony. It's no surprise that 4chan or an Eve corp derived therefrom is utterly infested with very serious white supremacists and anti-semites.
Are you judging an entire community of people based upon other communities you assume they're affiliated with? GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |

Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
295
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:05:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Frying Doom wrote: Come again?
You made a statement and provided no evidence, so I did the same. The ball's in your court. Australia Western Australian coast, settled by Italians after and before WWII did not fully assimilate to Australian ways and altered the country Chinese 1800-1900s Kalgoorlie and several other gold fields formed a sub culture and altered Australia for the better. Vietnamese 1980s+ same as above Greek 1900s interned during WWII altered large parts of south Australia a large number altered the Australian culture around them Happy or do you need more?
You'd probably need to state how they actually made it "better" GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |

Frying Doom
2025
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:06:00 -
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Axis Raikkonen wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Frying Doom wrote:tbh I think if they did it would end up in an EU court.
But whatever I feel I have pushed hard enough to defend someone whos beliefs I cannot stand long enough. That'd be interesting. What with Iceland not being part of the EU yet. The servers are located within England, these forums are located within England, the third part processing is located in England, subsequently it can be argued that they operate within the EU, even though the summits are held outside of the EU. Also I stand corrected on the court see above. That's where it gets tricky, because the servers being in the EU has nothing to do with how CCP, a company based in Iceland, manages its internet spaceships council, which is not a legally recognized entity and really is just an extension of an Icelandic business. It's kind of fuzzy in some respects, but definitely falls on the side of "EU can't touch this". I think being that the service of their product and the receiving of monies from those transactions is within the EU that a good case can be made. Otherwise every oil business in the world would be set up in Iceland. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Frying Doom
2025
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:09:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Frying Doom wrote: Come again?
You made a statement and provided no evidence, so I did the same. The ball's in your court. Australia Western Australian coast, settled by Italians after and before WWII did not fully assimilate to Australian ways and altered the country Chinese 1800-1900s Kalgoorlie and several other gold fields formed a sub culture and altered Australia for the better. Vietnamese 1980s+ same as above Greek 1900s interned during WWII altered large parts of south Australia a large number altered the Australian culture around them Happy or do you need more? You'd probably need to state how they actually made it "better" They altered the culture to be more understanding as well as increasing our culinary tastes added to the workforce at much needed times and colonized massive areas of previously bush land. Added to our art, finances, technology, frankly everything.
If Australia was just the pohms and the aboriginals we would be screwed. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
295
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:11:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: They altered the culture to be more understanding as well as increasing our culinary tastes added to the workforce at much needed times and colonized massive areas of previously bush land. Added to our art, finances, technology, frankly everything.
If Australia was just the pohms and the aboriginals we would be screwed.
I've lead you to the water can you please just take a sniff? GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |

Frying Doom
2025
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:15:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Frying Doom wrote: They altered the culture to be more understanding as well as increasing our culinary tastes added to the workforce at much needed times and colonized massive areas of previously bush land. Added to our art, finances, technology, frankly everything.
If Australia was just the pohms and the aboriginals we would be screwed.
I've lead you to the water can you please just take a sniff? Ok now you lost me but it is 6am here lol
We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1721
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:16:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ok now you lost me but it is 6am here lol
So hey, you've been up all night defending a neo-Nazi.
Good job, buddy! - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Axis Raikkonen
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
57
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:17:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: I think being that the service of their product and the receiving of monies from those transactions is within the EU that a good case can be made. Otherwise every oil business in the world would be set up in Iceland.
It's more fine-grained than that.
Usually in these multinational scenarios, a business entity creates a subsidiary to operate solely within a certain country. BMW is very much a German car company, but their operations in the US are conducted by BMW of North America, LLC.
Issues pertaining to BMW of North America, LLC are subject to the laws of the United States, not the laws of Germany. Similarly, worker issues are handled under OSHA and the USDOC and not, say, the German Worker's Council.
I'm not sure how exactly CCP has set themselves up from a legal standpoint, but I would imagine it's very similar. Their operations side of the business (let's call it CCP Hosting Ltd.) would most likely be based in the UK and as a result CCP is only bound to EU law in matters that concern their hosting operations, but for administrative issues that fall under CCP Iceland (the CSM being one), Icelandic law prevails.
This assumes that there are even any laws pertaining to the CSM as it's not a recognized legal entity - just a group of random people who chat on Skype and occasionally fly to very cold places to meet up in person. |

Frying Doom
2026
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:17:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Ok now you lost me but it is 6am here lol
So hey, you've been up all night defending a neo-N azi. Good job, buddy! Actually today is a public holiday.
And frankly I am happy to stand up for a persons human rights.
Even if I do think that person is a moron. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1722
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:23:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Ok now you lost me but it is 6am here lol
So hey, you've been up all night defending a neo-N azi. Good job, buddy! Actually today is a public holiday. And frankly I am happy to stand up for a persons human rights. Even if I do think that person is a moron.
You keep dodging the part where we've shown (repeatedly) that CCP refusing to work with him wouldn't be against his human rights.
But ok. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
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