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Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
174
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Posted - 2013.03.29 11:06:00 -
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Rythm wrote: He is shaved. He looks like a skinhead. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - its definitely a duck.
So by your definition, I'm a racist skinhead for having my head shaved? WTF? "Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."
"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
95
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Posted - 2013.03.29 12:32:00 -
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Ancy Denaries wrote:Rythm wrote: He is shaved. He looks like a skinhead. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - its definitely a duck.
So by your definition, I'm a racist skinhead for having my head shaved? WTF?
Definitely not because of his posting. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1788
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Posted - 2013.03.29 12:44:00 -
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Ancy Denaries wrote:Rythm wrote: He is shaved. He looks like a skinhead. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - its definitely a duck.
So by your definition, I'm a racist skinhead for having my head shaved? WTF?
Baldies are all Nazis, true story.
Undergoing chemotherapy? Premature hair loss? Clearly just a cheap cover story for wanting to round up and murder jews. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1788
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Posted - 2013.03.29 12:49:00 -
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Grats on the derail, by the way, but can we get back to the implications of CCP green-lighting a self-professed fascist and KKK-supporter as a candidate for CSM? Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Eezee Gonozal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.03.29 12:57:00 -
[425] - Quote
Sarmatiko wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:By sterilizing the forums of anything remotely exposing his blatant racism while allowing him to continue in the race, you're essentially setting yourself up for an increased possibility of him being elected. Then you will have just kicked the PR crisis down the road into a realm with MUCH higher stakes for the company, and caused yourself even further headache. Majority of russian voters know Fon's background and actually don't care (or don't vote if they care about RL stuff and not about spaceships). Moreover, they don't even read this topic and never will for obvious reasons (poor english and lack of content in goon propaganda). Same goes for average Joe-the-Voter. He will never go through TL;DR program and will choose any other candidate with generic program (asteroids for miners, nullsec for alliances, holes for wormholers etc.) And once again, raging CSM members completely ignoring goonswarm racist ingame behaviour. Hypocrisy at maximum.
You are very welcome to post proof that mynnna supported the Aryan Nation ingame. Contrary to popular beliefs there is more than one person in our alliance.
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Sarmatiko
998
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:23:00 -
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Eezee Gonozal wrote:You are very welcome to post proof that mynnna supported the Aryan Nation ingame. Contrary to popular beliefs there is more than one person in our alliance.
Contrary to popular beliefs, there is more than one voter behind Fon's CSM program (and not behind his RL beckground). It's funny, but if Mynnna eats children in real life - we will never know this and he will still be elected. Because mindless hive will vote for anyone, even for monkey with grenade after one message in alliance IIRC.
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Eezee Gonozal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:32:00 -
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At least we know that mynnna is smart enough not to post about his child-eating habits on this forum. And as mindless as we are we can still see that Fon is a terrible person. Funny how that works, huh? |

Sarmatiko
998
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:37:00 -
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Eezee Gonozal wrote:And as mindless as we are we can still see that Fon is a terrible person. Funny how that works, huh? Terrible person in CSM is better than useless person. Just look at candidates and find those that actually know their part of the game.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1127
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:40:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:Terrible person in CSM is better than useless person.
How do you figure? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
319

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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:49:00 -
[430] - Quote
Locking while I write ~a post~ CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
319

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Posted - 2013.03.29 15:47:00 -
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I'm unlocking this thread now.
Let me just restate that everyone in this thread should be extra careful to follow the rules on the forums to the letter
My ban hammer is prepped and ready to drop. I understand that many of you have real concerns, and CCP is currently looking into those concerns. However, that does not permit you to break the rules.
Any important information that you have, but which you cannot post without breaking the forum rules, can be sent in a petition to the community team. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1130
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Posted - 2013.03.29 15:58:00 -
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Maybe you'd like to clarify exactly where the line is? Normally it'd be obvious, but since this is a thread involving an openly neo-**** CSM candidate that hasn't been banned yet, I don't think the line is as clear as you think it is. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Thorien Greenwood
Tactical Tea Baggers Get Off My Lawn
16
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:05:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Maybe you'd like to clarify exactly where the line is? Normally it'd be obvious, but since this is a thread involving an openly neo-**** CSM candidate that hasn't been banned yet, I don't think the line is as clear as you think it is. Seconding this. The candidate has openly expressed his white nationalist views. This is not a case of players doxxing him and trolling him. He integrates his views which I find personally abhorrent into his very campaign. How can you expect us to just ignore them?! It seems incredibly relevant to his position on the CSM
but fair enough. I will move to the other thread to continue to express my deepest disgust. |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1130
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:11:00 -
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Thorien Greenwood wrote:He integrates his views which I find personally abhorrent into his very campaign. .
Also if you for some reason need proof of this, watch the video he has linked on his Candidacy page entitled "Fon Revedhort's CSM 7 Candidate pvp movie : Motorization of Disciples".
http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/candidate?id=563980 is his candidacy page. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Af6R4j0S_U is the direct link to the embedded video
Watch that, and if a few thousand alarm bells don't go off within 15-20 seconds of the video even starting, you might literally be Kaspar Hauser. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
319

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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:14:00 -
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The line is, do not break any of these rules: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules
We understand that this a particularly weird situation, made even more troublesome by the Easter Holiday.
While I understand that asking for patience on this matter is a difficult request, I assure you that I am aware of all the comments made in this thread. What I am not willing to do is allow a thread like this to go out of control over the weekend.
CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1130
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:18:00 -
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Quote:6. Racism and discrimination are prohibited.
Racism, gender stereotyping and hate speech are not permitted on the EVE Online Forums. Derogatory posting that includes race, religion or sexual preference based personal attacks and trolling can result in immediate suspension of forum posting privileges.
So Fon's already banned, right? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

PinkKnife
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
316
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:46:00 -
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I find all the outrage about this to be the most egregious of nonsense. Take a look at the EVE culture, and this surprises you? News flash, not all of EVE are trolls saying horrible things to get a rise out of people, some are, in fact, actually racists, homophobic, or sexist. At least FON has the courage to stand behind his views, as awful as they are.
Last year we had the CSM chair endorse cyber-bullying a fellow player into suicide in front of very large audience, and got off with a 1 month ban and kicked off the CSM.
You do not get to be upset about this and then go and continue laughing at racists jokes, or throwing around racists slurs because you think it is funny. There is no sort-of racism, there is just racism. There is no slight bigotry, there is only bigotry, and VAST, VAST amounts of the EVE player base are bigots, and CCP does not care outside the limits of their own legal obligation. |

Marian Devers
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
16
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:46:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Quote:6. Racism and discrimination are prohibited.
Racism, gender stereotyping and hate speech are not permitted on the EVE Online Forums. Derogatory posting that includes race, religion or sexual preference based personal attacks and trolling can result in immediate suspension of forum posting privileges. So Fon's already banned, right?
I suggest if you find any instances where Fon has posted hate speech, gender stereotyping, or racim on these forums, you immediately quote him, and report the post. CCP will have to ban him. As long as, you know, you manage to find said posts.
Hm. Quite the conondrum.
Apparently here is a CSM applicant who, according to some, is a racist (etc.), but no proof can be found. So how do they know he's a racist then... It's almost as if some people here have an ulterior agenda.
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Out of Sight.
1037
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:48:00 -
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CCP knows pretty well that accussing someone of doing something is not the same as actually providing hard evidence. People may label me as they please, but their opinion is just that - their own opinion. Hope that helps. My campaign for CSM 8 |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1133
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:49:00 -
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Marian Devers wrote:I suggest if you find any instances where Fon has posted hate speech, gender stereotyping, or racim on these forums, you immediately quote him, and report the post. CCP will have to ban him. As long as, you know, you manage to find said posts.
Hm. Quite the conondrum.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2807140#post2807140
Bottom of this post, brosef :) I'd link the original but it was purged in one of the many post-deletion waves this thread has seen. Funny how it apparently warranted deletion, is definitely endorsing an openly racist point of view, and yet here's Fon still posting away! Strange, no? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
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Marian Devers
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
16
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:00:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:Womyn Power wrote: I have no problem with people of any skin color, creed, or nationality who chose to leave behind where they've come from and assimilate to the culture that prevails in the land where I am from.
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Sums it up pretty nice, actually....
Fon seems to be agreeing with ANTI-racism sentiments. Seems to be the exact opposite of racism. Maybe I quoted the wrong part? Help me out here. |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1133
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:03:00 -
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Marian Devers wrote:Fon Revedhort wrote:Womyn Power wrote: I have no problem with people of any skin color, creed, or nationality who chose to leave behind where they've come from and assimilate to the culture that prevails in the land where I am from.
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Sums it up pretty nice, actually.... Fon seems to be agreeing with ANTI-racism sentiments. Seems to be the exact opposite of racism. Maybe I quoted the wrong part? Help me out here.
Yeah, you left out
Fon Revedhort wrote:Womyn Power wrote:I have a problem with people who come to a country, completely alien in culture and creed and assume that because some leftists who have taken their ideology too far they are entitled to the social welfare and services of the community itself. This is nothing but intentional destruction of culture by idiots who have chosen to drink the koolaid of cultural marxism. Sums it up pretty nice, actually. We've got our land, they've got theirs. Why lay claims on something neither you nor your grandfathers earned instead of just agreeing to be a mere guest in someone's home?Sadly, perverts can hardly comprehend such basic things and would rather indeed provoke the universal hatred. Alas.
Context is a ***** when you're wrong, isn't it? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Sieg oder Valhalla
The Advent of Faith
6
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:08:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Fon Revedhort wrote:Womyn Power wrote:I have a problem with people who come to a country, completely alien in culture and creed and assume that because some leftists who have taken their ideology too far they are entitled to the social welfare and services of the community itself. This is nothing but intentional destruction of culture by idiots who have chosen to drink the koolaid of cultural marxism. Sums it up pretty nice, actually. We've got our land, they've got theirs. Why lay claims on something neither you nor your grandfathers earned instead of just agreeing to be a mere guest in someone's home?Sadly, perverts can hardly comprehend such basic things and would rather indeed provoke the universal hatred. Alas. Context is a ***** when you're wrong, isn't it?
Not surprising that a "space communist" somehow finds the idea of borders and community property rights to be some horrible evil. |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1134
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:10:00 -
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Sieg oder Valhalla wrote:borders and community property rights.
Sorry, I'm not literally ********, your dogwhistle isn't working. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Marian Devers
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
16
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:27:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Context is a ***** when you're wrong, isn't it?
Also looooooooooooooooooooool if you think "I have no problem with foreigners so long as they don't act all foreign" is an anti-racist sentiment.
Well, It seems like an immigration-issue discussion. Discussing immigration is now racist? Just because it's not anti-racist, it is automatically racist? By that logic, talk of tracking enhancers is automatically racist
Fon Revedhort wrote:We've got our land, they've got theirs. Why lay claims on something neither you nor your grandfathers earned instead of just agreeing to be a mere guest in someone's home?
And I don't see this "foreigners shouldn't act foreign" thing you wrote about, Fon is clearly stating that people shouldn't forget that they came from a different country - not that they should start acting 'Merican if they come to 'Merica!
Do you think that's bad? Should people forget that they originally came from a different country? Should we tell all african-americans to FORGET that they came from Africa, due to slave-trade? In my opinion, things like that should never be forgotten, or forgiven.
So forgive me, I think Fon is right - never forget your origins, or forget your culture. |

Rhegulius Nycemius
Brigadier Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:39:00 -
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Quote:So forgive me, I think Fon is right - never forget your origins, or forget your culture.
Does that include never forgetting or forgetting the vile evil that "people" with Fon's views have inflicted, and still inflict, on the rest of humanity? |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1729
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Posted - 2013.03.29 18:11:00 -
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Marian Devers wrote:Snow Axe wrote:Context is a ***** when you're wrong, isn't it?
Also looooooooooooooooooooool if you think "I have no problem with foreigners so long as they don't act all foreign" is an anti-racist sentiment. Well, It seems like an immigration-issue discussion. Discussing immigration is now racist? Just because it's not anti-racist, it is automatically racist?  By that logic, talk of tracking enhancers is automatically racist Fon Revedhort wrote:We've got our land, they've got theirs. Why lay claims on something neither you nor your grandfathers earned instead of just agreeing to be a mere guest in someone's home? And I don't see this "foreigners shouldn't act foreign" thing you wrote about, Fon is clearly stating that people shouldn't forget that they came from a different country - not that they should start acting 'Merican if they come to 'Merica! Do you think that's bad? Should people forget that they originally came from a different country? Should we tell all african-americans to FORGET that they came from Africa, due to slave-trade? In my opinion, things like that should never be forgotten, or forgiven. So forgive me, I think Fon is right - never forget your origins, or forget your culture.
To give you the benefit of the doubt, you have missed him quoting David Duke (google him if you dont know who that is) endless 14/88 references, using neo-**** music and saying "not all races are equal, some are inferior"
I give you the benefit of the doubt, since CCP have repeatedly deleted all his postings on the issue because they break the forum rules.
Last time I broke the forum rules I got a 2 week ban, so forgive me if a lot of people are confused as to why he is not only banned from posting, but allowed to seemingly run as a candidate to represent the playerbase, wherein the CSM charter says they need to be an "example to others".
- "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
173
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Posted - 2013.03.29 18:19:00 -
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Marian Devers wrote:Do you think that's bad? Should people forget that they originally came from a different country? Should we tell all african-americans to FORGET that they came from Africa, due to slave-trade? In my opinion, things like that should never be forgotten, or forgiven.
So forgive me, I think Fon is right - never forget your origins, or forget your culture. If the alternative (The one Fon is supporting) is the ***, then yes people everywhere should forget their culture. Luckily, however, the world isn't black/white, a thing that many people should learn ASAP.
The point about the EVE community being casually racist, mysogonist or homophobic is a valid one in many ways, but at the same time it has certain flaws. First off, of course, is that many people are simply adding expetitives. You don't have to listen to many FCs or alliance/corp leaders on soundcloud to get that. Second is that they're often based on (wrong) stereotypes. When ratters in the large nullsec alliances are called jews, it's because of the stereotype, not because of RL views that jews are less human or even not human. The problem here is that Fon brought these views directly into debates a year ago when he ran for CSM then. Unprovoked. He has since reitertated a lot on these views, and continue to list *** leaders or Nazigerman leaders as idols - not on some obscure site, but here on the EVEO forums. If he brings his views on race etc into his campaign, then he should also endure the heat due to them.
And re: Mittani and last years FanFest. I was glad he was removed from the CSM then, and I would cite it as a reason why Fon should simply not be allowed to run. |

Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
378
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Posted - 2013.03.29 19:23:00 -
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I guess its sad that his culture is so weak that its going to get quickly overrun by a few immigrants oh well another waste consigned to the ash heap of history! bring back images |

Richard Bong
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
45
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Posted - 2013.03.29 19:50:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Quote:6. Racism and discrimination are prohibited.
Racism, gender stereotyping and hate speech are not permitted on the EVE Online Forums. Derogatory posting that includes race, religion or sexual preference based personal attacks and trolling can result in immediate suspension of forum posting privileges. So Fon's already banned, right?
I just don't want this to get glossed over.
Khanh'rhh wrote: Last time I broke the forum rules I got a 2 week ban, so forgive me if a lot of people are confused as to why he is not only not banned from posting, but allowed to seemingly run as a candidate to represent the playerbase, wherein the CSM charter says they need to be an "example to others".
This is what I don't understand, it's not like this was dug up on some obscure blog of his. He posted this stuff on the Eve-O forums himself, hell even some of it was in the OP of his CSM thread.
What I am taking from this is, that if I were to call someone a racial slur then I would rightfully be banned, but if I avoid specific slurs and just spout hate speech and quote David Duke and reference ****** I can run for CSM. [ASK] Me about drive by thread shitting! |
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