Frying Doom,

If you can't see the difference between a war that was started to attempt to liberate a country from a dictator (and people dying in the process) and a dictator who wanted to kill people to kill people on a mass scale, then I don't know what to tell you.

I might point out the irony here is that the Iraq war was started to release a country from a dictator who had performed acts of genocide in the past, but I think it would be lost on you.

You are unbelievably stupid.

Well how about you show me these lovely laws that allow organizations, excluding other political and religious organizations to discriminate? Or you might want to read further down in that document I told you to look up as it says exactly the opossite.

But I am happy to see your references.

Yes the lets call it old german party as it censors it, went out of their way to exterminate, Jews, Gays, Intellectuals, Communists, and the list goes on, using their military might.

You're (you see, it's a contraction of "you are") missing my point, mostly because I didn't suggest CCP take any action based on his campaigning efforts. In fact, I did not suggest any form of action be taken whatsoever. My sole motivation in this thread thus far was to ridicule both the efforts of a nazi whitewashing himself in public and the mindless nazi-apologists pretending there is no problem at all.

On a somewhat-related note, I do believe CCP should both draw-up and enact policies to suppress and/or punish the posting of content related to the support and/or glorification of parties instrumental to the holocaust. But that's just my personal opinion. But this isn't as relevant to this thread as my second opinion:

I do believe that CCP should not suppress or censor people calling nazis out on the forums like they did in the very same campaign thread one "Revedhort, Fon" posted a year ago.

Finally, if you believe that worshipping Hitler, supporting and voicing racial supremacist theories or disseminating content that does so "is a political view", you need to seek professional help.

Except for the fact that the death toll that has occurred in this "Liberation" is a lot higher than if it was left as is and that if it was purely for liberation the target would have been North Korea or at that time China but then there was WMDs wasnt there.

Oh and I believe the last reason for that was they needed more land, there is always a reason to start a war of aggression, I believe japans was oil. It just depends on whether history counts it as a valid reason to kill hundreds of thousands of people.

Oh and before you imply it, I believe strongly in soldiers doing as they are ordered, it is the politicians however that should be forced to serve on the front lines.

You know, Frying Doom, at this point you should step back and realize that you've given more defense to an avowed neonazi than to a guy who didn't update a wiki 2 years ago.

But on the other I will not back down on a persons right to live without discrimination be it from sex, race, sexual persuasion, religion, disability or political affiliation or lets be frank any other form of discrimination.

do I think neo-nasis suck, yep personally I do but they still have the right to freedom of speech and political association that they would happily deny others.

But on the other I will not back down on a persons right to live without discrimination be it from sex, race, sexual persuasion, religion, disability or political affiliation or lets be frank any other form of discrimination.

Saddam's death-toll was as "light" as it was because there was large international intervention (a war).

You just keep getting dumber. HOW.

But on the other I will not back down on a persons right to live without discrimination be it from sex, race, sexual persuasion, religion, disability or political affiliation or lets be frank any other form of discrimination.

do I think neo-nasis suck, yep personally I do but they still have the right to freedom of speech and political association that they would happily deny others.

do I think neo-nasis suck, yep personally I do but they still have the right to freedom of speech and political association that they would happily deny others.

also neonazi views, like genocide, do not merely "suck"

neonazi views are so abhorrent that anyone who even tolerates someone with those views is unwelcome in any civilized society, let alone the person themself

And we have the freedom to ridicule people that have voluntarily identified themselves as racist, neonazi shitheels when they're pretending to be good community representatives.

Any view that results in the deaths of any innocent civilians is unwelcome in any civilized society, let alone the person themself.

just to forestall your next attempt i expect next you'll try to cite page 117 which talks about discrimination based on expression or speech, based on ECHR article 10

you will, in your manifest ignorance, doubtless think aha this applies, but I already checked article 10 and it bars only governmental interference so private entities are absolutely free to discriminate

Yes you absolutely do and I encourage you to use that freedom.
It is just CCP who cannot exclude them from running in the election on the basis of political association but yes everyone really should make fun of them.

No actually I am waiting for your quote that expressly says an organization can discriminate.

No actually I am waiting for your quote that expressly says an organization can discriminate.

No actually I am waiting for your quote that expressly says an organization can discriminate.

like let me be very clear virtually any company would fire not only fon but you, frying doom, for your defense of fon in this thread if you did it under your real name and they found out

and they would be completely justified in doing so because they have that right and failure to exercise that right is taken by civilized people to be an implicit endorsement or toleration of those views

american law generally accepts he and you should be free to say these things without punishment from the government (unlike EU law) but offers you absolutely no protection against people refusing to associate with you or do business with you

The reality is that personal freedoms have taken such a battering in the last 20 years that now people consider freedom of speech and freedom of association to be crimes these days as this thread perfectly well shows.

Do I believe in his values frankly not at all, but I do believe in his right to have those views and everyone elses right to mock him for them, but not discriminate.

Where is the law that tells me I am allowed to have sex?

Guess I can't do that.

You're defending a neo-Nazi by using ~internet lawyer logic~ which is a really, really silly idea.