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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Out of Sight.
988
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:36:00 -
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Target audience consists of those who: - PvP themselves; - don't PvP, but would like to try; - used to, but no longer PvP due to some reasons (probably covered here); - are not interested in PvP yet remain fully aware of its significance for the game.
That's me.
Sadly, I've got none of these fancy references from ex- or current CSM members to proudly put here, so maybe this short video will help, as it summarizes the way of interaction I've preferred so far for dealing with those of them who actually undock.
In case of limited attention span and desire to see the platform, please proceed to massive Part II and randomly pick few items, which should be enough to answer the "what" question. Part I addresses the ones of "who" and "why"; it is premised by few quotes (from various forums), which are not necessarily true, but at least made me smile.
"Our fleet had a whopping 66% Amarr racial purity factor GÇô Fon Revedhort-approved! GÇô and thus we felt confident that we could achieve victory over the heathens"
"For a guy I've never heard of you make a lot of good points"
"I think Fon has shown that he isn't capable of having a discussion about fitting ships without bringing up racist ideology"
"That was absolutely fantastic! It was like a parade of several ships I've EFT'd but never had the isk to fly haha"
"I normally wouldn't care that much, but he has a habit of accusing people who fly drakes of needing to compensate for their racial inferiority by flying "OP" ships"
Part I - Introduction
Given the number of fruitless demagogues and obvious insiders, my refusal of attempting to exert curative influence on CCP would become a betrayal of the community, which would - yet again - face the necessity of making a choice between candidates whose mutual differences and ingame weight remind chess pawns taken from the very same set. And if it is really believed that "my honour is loyalty", then I surely cannot leave people to the mercy of ignorance of the "highest instance", which seems to be swiftly overcoming last obstacles in the way of the final degradation.
Unlike some unscrupulous rivals, I'm interested in the cause itself rather than personalities; thus I won't discuss even the most absurd statements (game-related, btw) made by utterly blobtastic CSM delegates and would rather touch upon a pretty generic issue often encountered at elections.
Quite often candidates introduce themselves like that they hardly have anything specific to say right now, but since they can do things like "listening" and "talking" (like fine secretary girls) they surely will conduct much "communication" once elected. It's hard to say whether intellectual sterility, hidden self-humiliation or plain hypocrisy prevails in these speeches, but one thing is pretty clear: no one really gives a crap on opinion expressed by individual anonymous posters, unless of course something like a sample of moronic and obviously unfinished UI hits TQ, causing forums to unite in a rage of negation for which ironically they need no CSM whatsoever.
And every sane person having succumbed to shameful election demagogy has to ask himself: how often has CSM asked players on anything specific? Hardly ever! The players are either asked to approve pre-made decisions, hardly changeable unless met with really sharp criticism; or invited to throw in "ideas" and no commitment comes next. CSM is not asking every John and his dog about what and how they think CCP should change. Nope.
Basically, the entire system of elected representatives there and everywhere always implies few speaking on behalf of the many. But why keep talking about self-styled unique communication capabilities then? The answer is short: suffering the lack of game achievements and being unable to come up with solid views on pressing issues, these people have nothing else to set as their virtues.
I've got no need to conduct such a poor rhetoric. Just the reverse, I'm quite honestly saying that one's inability to pick sides combined with "making-EVE-a-better-place" mumbling can be considered as great wisdom only by exemplary sons of the degenerative XXI century. By definition, to these I've got nothing to offer.
On the other hand, similarities always meet; it's hardly a coincidence that previous elections featured me supported by Garmon, who had been considered as PvPer #1 for quite a while. I created a movie of uncommon might; given how certain marasmus-affected CSM delegates performed "alternative" ways of addressing the broader audience, Garmon couldn't help responding in somewhat overstating yet frank manner:
"The sad thing is that Fon Revedhort has been working on a pvp video for the past 20 months, he released it around 36 hours ago for his CSM campaign, and it is the single best pvp movie that has ever been made, only 1k people has seen it. It's unfathomable how something that required so much effort + innovation, and is quite frankly, fantastic, has been ignored by the general eve public, but an evening of spamming has resulted in you reaching out to 200k+ characters?
If you remember, when the CSM minutes were released, there was a big outcry with the community with how the CSM candidates didn't seem to be in touch with the game, and were generally, incompetent - not my words, just the general feedback the majority gave, I would say that this video demonstrates that he doesn't have those qualities. I'm sure a lot of people would agree that an important quality that a CSM candidate should have is their ability to pvp, and understand mechanics, apart from the video being very enjoyable, it addresses those concerns too."
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Out of Sight.
988
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:36:00 -
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Finally, scandalmongering and backstage steps of blob apologists were thoroughly in line with their game views. They were smart enough to see a threat coming to their interests. If anything, it would have been really surprising to see plush villains missing an opportunity to clamour against real-life "evil", which "surely" saves one a hassle of having a discussion on the matter itself. These people can only praise someone utterly toothless who won't cause much trouble - a yesterday's newbie with little to none success beyond mere frigs will fit perfectly, the more so if his most significant "threat" posed to blobs is defined as "nerf gang-links". And while that kind of players might be of some use for CSM in case small-scale gaming style is well-represented, the latter one is something CSM has always lacked; and thus we'd better remain pragmatic and particularly think of the ship classes to be rebalanced soon, and in turn recollect who exactly within the playerbase has got enough combat experience in that field.
All in all, it's clear enough that evaluating candidates by their bombastic speeches and references made by their fundamental opponents should be skipped in favor of one's true achievements, experience and views.
My ingame achievements are well-known and have motivated dozens of players to take part in complex and creative PvP, so let's dwell on the views.
Part II - The Principles
"Always tell the truth and only the truth, just not the whole truth", Moltke taught. That's exactly what I'm going to do here, omitting complicated stuff and rather focusing on something easy both to explain and understand. Some points might even be considered as totally obvious, but still they are to be put here.
Sure thing, it would be really stupid to believe that I'm somehow laying claims of being able to reshape EVE by myself. But the truth is, with this text at his disposal a regular voter may accurately predict my reaction to CCP initiatives.
- PvP is the backbone of EVE as it creates a steady demand for both industrial goods and PvE loot through constant destruction of assets and items. At the end of the day it's PvP that sells manufactured hulls or NPC-looted high-end gear. This is something PvE players should never forget, more so if they live in high-sec space and tend to believe they're out of any events - this view is wrong simply due to them using the market, which ultimately is the connecting link between them as PvErs and many others who PvP. The reversed idea - of PvP being impossible without industry and PvE - is just a poor attempt at demagogy, since it's pretty obvious that these things will always exist at the very least due to PvPers themselves, who evidently have never pulled their isk out of the thin air and at any given moment tend to participate in most profitable (demanded) activities; on the other hand, "pacifists" alone will never cause a warfare intensive enough to make the economy work. This explains why I'm so focused on improving and expanding PvP. Meanwhile, it's simply not true that this somehow translates into me advocating for high-sec level 4 missions getting moved into low-sec etc.
- Nerfs and boosts are always interconnected. For instance, introduction of Jump Freighters in their current state might be considered as a boost to logistics, but for pirates earning their living through pillaging trade routes these ships have surely become a catastrophe. This is something a lot of people reject because of their little interest in seeing things outside of their own nutshell. Addition of a covert-ops cloak to Tech2 transports in Quantum Rise has been the same: a boost for some, a huge nerf for the others. Another example: boosting one particular combat ship is always an indirect nerf to its counterparts simply because they all exist in the same environment and share the same pool of targets. Same applies to space in general - if a new area offers something really lucrative, then it attracts people from all over the space and subsequently makes other areas less populated. All in all, even though both boosts and nerfs are inevitable, it makes no sense to think of boosts as of "improvements" and consider nerfs as "spoilers". The primary goal is creating a balanced environment with demand for all the stuff - professions, ships, regions etc. Thus any new content is only welcome in case present things are enriched with new alternatives rather than just rendered obsolete.
- Ships of the same class are to be of more or less the same value for players. It's absolutely wrong to have such a design where, say, one race gets an overpowered HAC, another one - an OP interceptor and the third one - an OP recon. And mistaken are those standing up against any attempt of fixing these ships on mere grounds of "their race having nothing else to fly". There surely is nothing, given how remaining roles are already occupied by ships of other races - how can anyone keep missing that?
- Abundance of combat modules and rigs should encourage different tactics and fittings instead of calling up associations with a brothel run by oddballs, where few popular strumpets are kept along with a bunch of nearly decomposed beings, used out of pity and at Greek calends only. And the variety we are looking for can only be achieved via rational stats and penalties - this is something CCP seems to ignore occasionally, otherwise they would have never rejected promising rig changes in spring 2012 with such a poor reasoning. If dogmas and doctrines were really Alpha and Omega of EVE design, then such things as Sansha Mk.2 (of lasers and shields) would have never appeared.
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Out of Sight.
988
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:36:00 -
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reserved 14 |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Out of Sight.
988
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:36:00 -
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and just in case I need some more space 14 |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1731
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:51:00 -
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tldr Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1075
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:32:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:tldr
Just pick any David Duke quote and go with it. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Wescro2
New Order Logistics CODE.
90
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:39:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:tldr Just pick any David Duke quote and go with it.
It took a while to find one that (probably) wouldn't get me banned from EVE-O and still be relevant to the CSM8 election,
So here's David Duke on which is more elite PvP, suicide ganking or regular ganking.
David Duke wrote:I donGÇÖt see any moral difference between a suicide bomber and somebody in a F-16 fighter jet who fires a missile into an apartment complex and then kills 10 or 15 little girls and boys. I donGÇÖt see much difference there. In fact, I think the pilot is a greater offender, you know, heGÇÖs getting medals, while the suicide bomber is sacrificing his life for what he believes in.
Source. |
Rythm
Shadow Monolith The Gorgon Spawn
33
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:06:00 -
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David Duke on Minmatar rebellion
David Duke wrote: We're not askingGÇö you know, we don't want to have them, you know, for our culture. We simply want our own country and our own society. That's in no way exploitive at all. We want our own society, our own nationGǪ.
Source. |
Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
0
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:50:00 -
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You sure put a lot of words to paper in your effort to not actually say anything. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
3992
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:22:00 -
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Two step, I found your next client. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
3404
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:28:00 -
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Wow, that was quite a wall of text. One might even call it a manifesto...
Sadly, I have a strict "no-neo-Third-Reich" policy. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Frying Doom
1985
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:33:00 -
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Two step wrote:Wow, that was quite a wall of text. One might even call it a manifesto... Sadly, I have a strict "no-neo-Third-Reich" policy. What a racist.
Next you will be complaining about Chairman Mao's Cultural Revolution and his followers. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Rythm
Shadow Monolith The Gorgon Spawn
35
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:44:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Two step wrote:Wow, that was quite a wall of text. One might even call it a manifesto... Sadly, I have a strict "no-neo-Third-Reich" policy. What a racist. Next you will be complaining about Chairman Mao's Cultural Revolution and his followers. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10872291
chairman mao is a serious business besides this is an internet spaceship game and i guess we should not bring real life political views or nationality into discussion. |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Out of Sight.
995
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:43:00 -
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Dierdra Vaal is doing a great job keeping his vote-match project alive and I gladly used that opportunity to come up with some soft of a TL;DR version of what I'm saying here.
So feel free to check it out here. 14 |
Secure Cargo Container
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.03.25 13:46:00 -
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What a butthurt would mr 'three jump' have with Fon elected in CSM 8 Like 15 to 89 words of pure butthurt. |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Out of Sight.
1010
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:41:00 -
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Hey, let's keep it civil and avoid bringing in personalities, especially non-factor ones My campaign for CSM 8 |
Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
123
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:03:00 -
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PIZZACO officially supports Fon Revedhort as its CSM8 candidate. Confederation of xXPIZZAXx CEO Watch PIZZA Videos http://www.youtube.com/user/LunchSquad |
Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
299
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:49:00 -
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You given up your white supremacist views? I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
433
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Posted - 2013.03.26 19:45:00 -
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running again? i did nazi this coming |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1709
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:42:00 -
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I was trying to remember if you were that neo-**** scumbag, but you handily posted your neo-**** music and quoted Helmuth von Moltke in your OP, so good job. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
2779
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Posted - 2013.03.27 21:28:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:running again? i did nazi this coming The mind goebbels... Pre-Election has begun! Click to endorse Trebor for CSM8 * Candidate thread * CSM Blog |
Verlai
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.03.27 21:32:00 -
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I believe the biggest issue facing EVE is that of the economy. This rampant inflation is a serious issue that must finally be faced. Do you have any solution? |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1086
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Posted - 2013.03.27 21:42:00 -
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Hey Fon, how good are you at Transport Tycoon? This is important. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1089
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Posted - 2013.03.27 21:43:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:running again? i did nazi this coming The mind goebbels... Are you goering to make a big deal about this? "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
140
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Posted - 2013.03.27 21:47:00 -
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I support this candidacy. Regardless of what happens in New Eden over the next 12 years, at least we'll have DIE SPACE AUTOBAHN to enjoy afterwards. |
Gregor Lachlan
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
2
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:08:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:running again? i did nazi this coming The mind goebbels... Are you goering to make a big deal about this?
You guys are CSM and making jokes about war criminals.
When CCP see this they'll be F++hrious. |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
116
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:13:00 -
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I interviewed Fon as part of the Crossing Zebras CSM8 Election Interviews process. You can listen to it here
http://c-z.me/csm8fonrevedhort
I strongly advise people not to vote for Fon in CSM8 based on what is discussed in this interview. www.crossingzebras.com |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1761
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:36:00 -
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Verlai wrote:I believe the biggest issue facing EVE is that of the economy. This rampant inflation is a serious issue that must finally be faced. Do you have any solution?
Invade Poland? Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Thorien Greenwood
Tactical Tea Baggers Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:36:00 -
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A drunk ******* makes a stupid tasteless joke and gets booted from the CSM almost immediately, yet when a literal space-**** starts quoting David Duke and other assorted fascists, CCP doesn't say a word?
My hope is that this is just a temporary thing, and that we can expect CCP to slap this space-fascist back down. |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
3470
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:53:00 -
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After listening to Xander's *excellent* interview, I am even more shocked and dismayed that Fon was allowed to run at all. I went and read his thread on eve-ru, and luckily many members of the Russian community are just as troubled by his views as I am. I hope everyone sends him a message to not bother to run for CSM9 by not giving him enough endorsements to even pass the pre-election. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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