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Space Wookie
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.03.28 08:53:00 -
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This man is worthy of being president in video game government.
Fon 2013. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
2375
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Posted - 2013.03.28 09:43:00 -
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That's easily the best platform I've ever seen from any CSM candidate.
Only thing I disagree with is the tank issue, I think ships should have even more EHP, just because longer fights are more fun than getting one-shot.
But yes, will vote.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.03.28 09:48:00 -
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Rythm wrote:Father Snuggles wrote:Wherein calling out neonazi-apologists turns you into 6-year-old college dropouts. I guess it has something to do with you inability to distinguish between AND and OR statements.
Oh, apologies.
Wherein calling out neonazi-apologists turns you into EITHER a 6-year-old OR a college dropout.
Because clearly, only those two groups show a sufficient lack of intelligence that leads them to stoop to such lows as calling out neonazi-apologists, an innocent minority so savagely misunderstood. |
Rythm
True Power Team
40
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Posted - 2013.03.28 10:03:00 -
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Father Snuggles wrote: Oh, apologies. Wherein calling out neonazi-apologists turns you into EITHER a 6-year-old OR a college dropout. Because clearly, only those two groups show a sufficient lack of intelligence that leads them to stoop to such lows as calling out neonazi-apologists, an innocent minority so savagely misunderstood.
Well, you might be in third, fourth, fifth and so on so forth group, it really does not matter as long as they posess the key property that allows them to successfully find neonazis in space =) |
Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.03.28 10:38:00 -
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"Wherein you better agree with Na-ˇzi-ˇ apologists, lest you get smothered with foggy semantics derails." -ˇ |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Out of Sight.
1028
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Posted - 2013.03.28 10:44:00 -
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By the way, should anyone want to conduct another interview to maybe address some EVE concerns previously left untouched, I'm open for invitations.
This might save some a hassle of 'penetrating' my starting message with all its 'grandiose phrasing' etc. Also, additional questions may arise. My campaign for CSM 8 |
Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.03.28 10:49:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:Also, additional questions may arise.
You certainly have a knack for understatements there, champ. |
Rythm
True Power Team
41
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Posted - 2013.03.28 10:57:00 -
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Father Snuggles wrote:"Wherein you better agree with Na-ˇzi-ˇ apologists, lest you get smothered with foggy semantics derails." -ˇ oh sigh. one picture worth thousand words. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUkt59vY1Q
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1099
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Posted - 2013.03.28 11:09:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:By the way, should anyone want to conduct another interview to maybe address some EVE concerns previously left untouched, I'm open for invitations..
Hear that, podcasters? You too can have the experience of recording a neonazi awkwardly going through the Cliff's Notes version of Mein Kampf! "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.03.28 11:17:00 -
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Rythm wrote:Father Snuggles wrote:"Wherein you better agree with Na-ˇzi-ˇ apologists, lest you get smothered with foggy semantics derails." -ˇ oh sigh. one picture worth thousand words. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUkt59vY1Q
Yes, the uneducated masses cruelly proclaiming a guy that openly talked about his racial views and included not one but SIX neonazi rock songs in the soundtrack of his pvp-'magnum opus' (the other 3 might be too, I don't know since I don't know them or speak russian, but since one of them actually included the lyrics "Sieg Heil!" in the chorus, I'm somewhat suspicious) and quotes David Duke as a neonazi and don't want him to represent them regardless of his pvp-prowess.
How dare they?
Such grave prejudice and injustice. |
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Capqu
Love Squad
87
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Posted - 2013.03.28 11:34:00 -
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If you want a no BS candidate, Fon's your man.
+3 votes from me. http://pizza.eve-kill.net |
Rythm
True Power Team
41
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Posted - 2013.03.28 11:56:00 -
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Do you want to discuss russian rock scene?
http://prostopleer.com/tracks/53308902m5D
Ahh. This. Meet. Cognitive. Dissonance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nVNUFGmgcUw |
Amon Kadon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:06:00 -
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Sieg oder Valhalla wrote:This thread clearly shows that "anti-fascists" are the true fascists. Best of luck in your campaign, Fon. Yeah and feminists are the real sexists. Gays are the real homophobes.
Ps. Defending a neo-N-ˇazi with a name like "Sieg oder Valhalla" isn't doing you any favors.
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Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:23:00 -
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Rythm wrote:Do you want to discuss russian rock scene?
Well, since you're openly asking me whether I want to join you in your derail to deflect from the argument you quoted but smartly omitted, my answer is going to have to be:
No, I'd much rather have you comment on what I already wrote. Here, I'll quote it again for your convenience:
Father Snuggles wrote:Yes, the uneducated masses cruelly proclaiming a guy that openly talked about his racial views and included not one but SIX neonazi rock songs in the soundtrack of his pvp-'magnum opus' (the other 3 might be too, I don't know since I don't know them or speak russian, but since one of them actually included the lyrics "Sieg Heil!" in the chorus, I'm somewhat suspicious) and quotes David Duke as a neonazi and don't want him to represent them regardless of his pvp-prowess. How dare they? Such grave prejudice and injustice.
Feel free to refute any of that at your leisure.
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Frying Doom
2023
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:25:00 -
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Honestly does the fact he follows a political movement that is almost about to celebrate its 100th anniversary, really matter?
So the creator of that movement and leader of that country was classified as a war criminal. You would be lucky to find many people that were adults during that war.
We have had war criminals leading countries since then and we presumably have followers of their parties in the CSM.
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics? We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Reppyk
Yarrbear Inc. BricK sQuAD.
378
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:25:00 -
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I'm a bit torn...
That manifesto was excellent, the best of all, and I deeply think that with Fon's help in the CSM, EVE would be a better place. On the other hand, as a scientist, I cannot stand for any kind of racism idea, and supporting someone that is just wrong on so many subjects is just unbearable. |
Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:30:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Honestly does the fact he follows a political movement that is almost about to celebrate its 100th anniversary, really matter?
So the creator of that movement and leader of that country was classified as a war criminal. You would be lucky to find many people that were adults during that war.
We have had war criminals leading countries since then and we presumably have followers of their parties in the CSM.
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics?
This just in:
Worshipping Hitler is no longer a no-no because the holocaust is sooo last century. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1100
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:46:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics?
Remember, the only reason anyone knows about his neonazism is because he's told us. He uses neonazi music in his PVP videos, he's quoted David Duke, he's made literal allusions to human races "not being equal", all on these forums. It wasn't any kind of creepy digi-level internet detectiving that unearthed this.
So why does this matter? We're electing a group of people who come from all corners of the planet (potentially, anyway). Different ethnicities, religions, nationality, all of that good stuff. So now we have Fon, an open neo-**** who has PROVEN that he cannot keep his views separate from Eve Online as demonstrated above. That alone is enough reason for it to matter, and matter greatly.
"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
449
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:51:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics? i don't know how well do you think an unrepentant racist neonazi will get along with anything other than a lily-white csm and represent eve to the wider world |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
449
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:53:00 -
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Capqu wrote:If you want a no BS candidate, Fon's your man.
+3 votes from me. does he have his certificate of racial purity from black or semitic ancestry? where's the racial purity certificate |
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Frying Doom
2023
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:59:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Frying Doom wrote:So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics? i don't know how well do you think an unrepentant racist neona zi will get along with anything other than a lily-white csm and represent eve to the wider world Frankly I have no idea but I do not believe that someones political views should prevent them from serving on a player elected council in a game. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:02:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Frankly I have no idea but I do not believe that someones political views should prevent them from serving on a player elected council in a game.
Neonazism is quite a bit bigger than a political view. You realize that, right? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
2023
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:05:00 -
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Father Snuggles wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Honestly does the fact he follows a political movement that is almost about to celebrate its 100th anniversary, really matter?
So the creator of that movement and leader of that country was classified as a war criminal. You would be lucky to find many people that were adults during that war.
We have had war criminals leading countries since then and we presumably have followers of their parties in the CSM.
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics? This just in: Worshipping Hi tler is no longer a no-no because the holocaust is sooo last century. So your suggesting that CCP should ban people in political parties guilty of starting wars of aggression?
Well I suppose that will annoy members of the US republican party, The Australian Liberal Party and UK labour party. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
450
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:09:00 -
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i think he's suggesting ccp should ban people from political parties who conducted a program of industrial murder to kill around twelve milion people, also people who openly espouse the principle that other races are inferior |
Frying Doom
2023
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:10:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Frankly I have no idea but I do not believe that someones political views should prevent them from serving on a player elected council in a game. Neonazism is quite a bit bigger than a political view. You realize that, right? I am aware of what it is but it is also a political movement. Frankly I am surprised they have not gone down the religious recognition arm.
Either way around it is illegal to discriminate against someone for their political views and frankly even though this may let nut jobs run for things like this it also means that companies like CCP cannot just chose to exclude for instance members of political parties such as labour and conservative while allowing members of Official Monster Raving Loony Party to run. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
450
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:11:00 -
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its just me but i think that you could have figured out he was talking about the program of industrialized murder known as "the holocaust" from the fact his post specifically referenced the holocaust and that would have stopped you from making a very stupid post equating the nazi party to parties that have never conducted programs of industrialized murder to kill twelve million people |
Axis Raikkonen
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
52
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:12:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: So your suggesting that CCP should ban people in political parties guilty of starting wars of aggression?
Well I suppose that will annoy members of the US republican party, The Australian Liberal Party and UK labour party.
This just in, the war in Iraq is literally the Holocaust. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:12:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Either way around it is illegal to discriminate against someone for their political views and frankly even though this may let nut jobs run for things like this it also means that companies like CCP cannot just chose to exclude for instance members of political parties such as labour and conservative while allowing members of Official Monster Raving Loony Party to run.
Illegal? Where? Besides, if you want to get into the legality thing, there's more than a few European countries in which CCP sell subscriptions to this game that ~might~ take issue with an unrepentant neonazi representing them. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
2023
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:13:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:i think he's suggesting ccp should ban people from political parties who conducted a program of industrial murder to kill around twelve milion people, also people who openly espouse the principle that other races are inferior So 12 million bad, 120,000 good? but besides that.
But yes his personal views may make him come undone once elected but to refuse him the ability is to discriminate against him, just as he would discriminate against others. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1714
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:13:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Frying Doom wrote:So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics? i don't know how well do you think an unrepentant racist neona zi will get along with anything other than a lily-white csm and represent eve to the wider world Frankly I have no idea but I do not believe that someones political views should prevent them from serving on a player elected council in a game. You realise this isn't like voting for Ron Paul, right? You know what views he is saying were good, right?
He is saying that a guy who killed 6million+ non-whites (Jews were not the only targeted group) HAD THE RIGHT IDEA. He quotes David Duke, leader of the Ku Klux Klan, who thinks that hanging black people from trees is a fun Saturday night, as a role model.
If for some reason, some lapse of all sanity, you think allowing this sack of human excrement a mouth-piece is a good idea, you may want to note that in an interview on his CSM candidacy he wouldn't give a straight answer on whether he would respect the opinions of non-whites on the CSM, using excuses like "I would respect them ingame" and "Sorry I don't know English".
Yeah, the guy who wrote a 3-full-length-post OP in this thread can't understand English.
Stop defending these people. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
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