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CLKaCasheis
Regional Park Services
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:26:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:hello i am new to eve online but LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT ETHICS
Obviously my post sparked new interest in directionality of your thoughts on the OP. But, yet have I seen you click the like button MITTENS!
CFC4LIFE <3 |
Igner Greyhound
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:31:00 -
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Reminder that the King of Space has led our corporation into so much corrupt corruption that the entire alliance income and expense sheet is freely posted for even day-old members to review and question. So corrupt! This gives valuable information to our enemies that would normally require grooming of high-level spies, but that is a small price to pay in the name of TOTAL CORRUPTION. |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
191
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:36:00 -
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Igner Greyhound wrote:Reminder that the King of Space has led our corporation into so much corrupt corruption that the entire alliance income and expense sheet is freely posted for even day-old members to review and question. So corrupt! This gives valuable information to our enemies that would normally require grooming of high-level spies, but that is a small price to pay in the name of TOTAL CORRUPTION.
How is that relevant to CSM? Its an IG consideration. Also the last time it was attempted to be published the link needed permissions to enter the public information. Also how do we know this spreadsheet isnt just "public" presented material as opposed to real "private" facts.
Assuming that IG issues matter do we then take all the griefing and scamming related activity attributable to Goons to signify a less than corrupt position? 
Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems.
Stop EvE Apathy |
CLKaCasheis
Regional Park Services
Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:42:00 -
[1024] - Quote
It just adds to the whole conspiracy theory, DUH!!!!!! |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5126
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:43:00 -
[1025] - Quote
*accuses griefers of cowardice*
*hides behind npc corp alt*
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Karadion
432
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:44:00 -
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Ethics, serious business in Eve Online. |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
191
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:50:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:*accuses griefers of cowardice*
*hides behind npc corp alt*
*Now revealed*
*Accuses people of integrity*
*hides behind anonymous CSM minutes*
Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems.
Stop EvE Apathy |
Igner Greyhound
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:50:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Igner Greyhound wrote:Reminder that the King of Space has led our corporation into so much corrupt corruption that the entire alliance income and expense sheet is freely posted for even day-old members to review and question. So corrupt! This gives valuable information to our enemies that would normally require grooming of high-level spies, but that is a small price to pay in the name of TOTAL CORRUPTION. How is that relevant to CSM? Its an IG consideration. Also the last time it was attempted to be published the link needed permissions to enter the public information. Also how do we know this spreadsheet isnt just "public" presented material as opposed to real "private" facts. Assuming that IG issues matter do we then take all the griefing and scamming related activity attributable to Goons to signify a less than corrupt position?
It's relevant to the first post, since it's one of the stated reasons for disqualification. The info is presented by independent (non director) auditor, and is published in a way that is available to anyone directly affected (alliance members). A corrupt CSM head would want to preserve the ridiculous ISK faucet that is technetium given our moon holdings, but Mittani is strongly in favor of nerfing it.
No matter how much you want it to not be true, you are playing a game that freely allows griefing and scamming. Many players in Goonwaffe do it, everyone knows this, yet it keeps happening over and over and over. There is no more reason to disqualify someone from a scamming alliance than there would be to disqualify a player who flies Amarr ships because you think lasers suck. |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
191
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:56:00 -
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Igner Greyhound wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Igner Greyhound wrote:Reminder that the King of Space has led our corporation into so much corrupt corruption that the entire alliance income and expense sheet is freely posted for even day-old members to review and question. So corrupt! This gives valuable information to our enemies that would normally require grooming of high-level spies, but that is a small price to pay in the name of TOTAL CORRUPTION. How is that relevant to CSM? Its an IG consideration. Also the last time it was attempted to be published the link needed permissions to enter the public information. Also how do we know this spreadsheet isnt just "public" presented material as opposed to real "private" facts. Assuming that IG issues matter do we then take all the griefing and scamming related activity attributable to Goons to signify a less than corrupt position? It's relevant to the first post, since it's one of the stated reasons for disqualification. The info is presented by independent (non director) auditor, and is published in a way that is available to anyone directly affected (alliance members). A corrupt CSM head would want to preserve the ridiculous ISK faucet that is technetium given our moon holdings, but Mittani is strongly in favor of nerfing it. No matter how much you want it to not be true, you are playing a game that freely allows griefing and scamming. Many players in Goonwaffe do it, everyone knows this, yet it keeps happening over and over and over. There is no more reason to disqualify someone from a scamming alliance than there would be to disqualify a player who flies Amarr ships because you think lasers suck.
Nothing against them, they are valid IG mechanics, but like I said I wouldnt blur IG considerations with CSM duties, however if your forcing a consideration of including all IG elements best get your **** together than stupid propoganda.
Of course Mitttens well known capital scam and initiatives like Hulkageddon are not significant issues associated with corruptability? (Again IG stuff, perfectly valid, shouldnt effect CSM, sigh)
Also, the tech moon issue could be viewed as a way of preventing anyone else from profiting from them in the future and yet the Goons have capatilised on their position of having a significant portion of them for a long time. So nerf them, keep the assests associated with their gain prior, still have large number of them still better represented than others anyhow.
Some Goons. Couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems.
Stop EvE Apathy |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
1
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:58:00 -
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Igner Greyhound wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Igner Greyhound wrote:Reminder that the King of Space has led our corporation into so much corrupt corruption that the entire alliance income and expense sheet is freely posted for even day-old members to review and question. So corrupt! This gives valuable information to our enemies that would normally require grooming of high-level spies, but that is a small price to pay in the name of TOTAL CORRUPTION. How is that relevant to CSM? Its an IG consideration. Also the last time it was attempted to be published the link needed permissions to enter the public information. Also how do we know this spreadsheet isnt just "public" presented material as opposed to real "private" facts. Assuming that IG issues matter do we then take all the griefing and scamming related activity attributable to Goons to signify a less than corrupt position? It's relevant to the first post, since it's one of the stated reasons for disqualification. The info is presented by independent (non director) auditor, and is published in a way that is available to anyone directly affected (alliance members). A corrupt CSM head would want to preserve the ridiculous ISK faucet that is technetium given our moon holdings, but Mittani is strongly in favor of nerfing it. No matter how much you want it to not be true, you are playing a game that freely allows griefing and scamming. Many players in Goonwaffe EVE Online do it, everyone knows this, yet it keeps happening over and over and over. There is no more reason to disqualify someone from a scamming alliance than there would be to disqualify a player who flies Amarr ships because you think lasers suck.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
152
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:18:00 -
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Th greates trick The Mittani pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.  |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
72
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:26:00 -
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Grumpy Owly, maybe if you made a character Happy Owly you would enjoy internet spaceships more and worry about that darn Mittani less.
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:40:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Th greates trick The Mittani pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
You think I'm so serious?
Not sure if Mittens is Turkish.
However some clues to his serious qualities:
The Mittani wrote:I'm actually so completely full of myself when it comes to EVE that the whole CSM thing is pretty ancillary to my "e-identity" compared to leading Goonswarm, which is itself ancillary to my 'true love' in EVE, running espionage in the glory days of spying before Dominion ruined it. Heh. Essentially, the counterargument to "you're just doing this because you're full of yourself" is "actually, i'm so completely full of myself that it doesn't do anything for my ego, my ego is beyond even that." Sad but true! ... i am a sadist with a dire wolf and the only time i enjoy eve online is when i make thousands of people suffer, or acting as a trusted 3rd party for supercap sales mittens 2012 ... Professor Alphane wrote:Malcanis wrote:At the risk of stealing his lines, why should he give two short ***** about what you think of his style? RP style and RL action are to distinctly separate things, both I adressed in my post. But to answer your question DunnoDontCareWasItRelevant.jpg oh, you think i'm 'roleplaying' an arrogant sadist
Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems.
Stop EvE Apathy |
Magnusian
Sigma Kid Protection Services
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.16 19:36:00 -
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Dearest Pubbie brosefs, please help in my campaign against The Mittani's CSM candidacy.
My reasons:
His beard is pretty lame and not manly at all, it's not even a neckbeard, how can he represent neckbeards without one of his own.
He is a poopyface.
He has gained respect for goons in the eyes of a large number of pubbies, this is an affront to all goonkind.
He likes dogs, when cats are clearly superior.
He won't RESET TEST.
He lets DBRB run ops that begin with "I promise good fights" and end in "we're going to shoot this pos that is 40 jumps from the nearest link in the JB network."
I've had a carrier for over a year and still haven't lost it despite numerous promises that I would.
He has a tier 10 in World of Tanks and I don't. |
Cheezy Armpit
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.16 19:36:00 -
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man up internet spaceship pussyclats. |
Magnusian
Sigma Kid Protection Services
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.16 19:42:00 -
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Oh, I fogot one reason, probably his greatest crime:
He lets Amok. post. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:01:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Igner Greyhound wrote:Reminder that the King of Space has led our corporation into so much corrupt corruption that the entire alliance income and expense sheet is freely posted for even day-old members to review and question. So corrupt! This gives valuable information to our enemies that would normally require grooming of high-level spies, but that is a small price to pay in the name of TOTAL CORRUPTION. How is that relevant to CSM? Its an IG consideration. Also the last time it was attempted to be published the link needed permissions to enter the public information. Also how do we know this spreadsheet isnt just "public" presented material as opposed to real "private" facts. Assuming that IG issues matter do we then take all the griefing and scamming related activity attributable to Goons to signify a less than corrupt position?
uh what the link doesn't require any logins or anything
naturally you can't edit the form though and also i broke part of it by moving who had roles i should fix that |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:08:00 -
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ha ha oh man did that npc alt really call mittens PUNKTANI |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:09:00 -
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Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month |
Travis Wells
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:09:00 -
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damn, im late to the party, but i still laughed a lil bit |
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FOl2TY8
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:35:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month
THAT'S A LOT OF ISK |
Paxton Brimstone
Multiplex Gaming
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:55:00 -
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The Mittani represents just as other CSM members the player base and there wants and needs to make the game worth playing. Mittins represents many of us and in a way that does with our own type of honor and integrity. As such he is doing his job and has been faithful to those that elected him. If a empire bear pubbie was elected and those block of players voted for him great then they have a voice. Dont be hate'n when we play a sandbox mmo and the "wild guys" have a voice. I look forward to mittins having another round and chewing up noobers like woulds on the council with him if they get elected.. Gawd I just love having a little bee as our chairman woooooot .. |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:17:00 -
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FOl2TY8 wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month THAT'S A LOT OF ISK
not after the mittani puts it all in his ~pockets~ |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2103
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:24:00 -
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Berke Negri wrote:FOl2TY8 wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month THAT'S A LOT OF ISK not after the mittani puts it all in his ~pockets~
yeah, he spends most of the moongold on brutixes
yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
918
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Posted - 2012.02.17 00:32:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month
It is crucial for an organization the size of the goons to have credibility when making such claims!
I would be glad to provide an independent audit of that number for only a 5% commission. I'll get started as soon as I see the deposit in my wallet......
Issler |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
196
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Posted - 2012.02.17 01:32:00 -
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Akelorian wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month And in January their loss's amassed to just over 711,000,000,000.00 isk, so obviously not all the isk is going to mittens pocket :)
Tax rate is 15%.
Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems.
Stop EvE Apathy |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.02.17 02:35:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:It is crucial for an organization the size of the goons to have credibility when making such claims!
I would be glad to provide an independent audit
SPAI, someone get that spai.
Our auditor is more than capable of counting to even .01 isk. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.02.17 02:44:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Also, the tech moon issue could be viewed as a way of preventing anyone else from profiting from them in the future and yet the Goons have capatilised on their position of having a significant portion of them for a long time. So nerf them, keep the assests associated with their gain prior, still have large number of them still better represented than others anyhow.
So we are abusing it if it's unnerfed and abusing it if it's nerfed. This right here makes total sense.
Wait a quick sec as we make more titans than everyone else, then suddenly nerfing tracking won't be about goons being shot at by titan guns but a case of us abusing them by shooting titan guns at people.
How? Because we already blew up people and POSes before the nerf and after the nerf people won't be able to do that. SO thus after we start abusing titan tracking, we'd be trying to cement our abuse of it by getting it nerfed. |
doombreed52
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
26
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Posted - 2012.02.17 03:02:00 -
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to the op you've given me something to laugh at late at night oh and go **** yourself stop crying. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
131
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Posted - 2012.02.17 03:31:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month It is crucial for an organization the size of the goons to have credibility when making such claims! I would be glad to provide an independent audit of that number for only a 5% commission. I'll get started as soon as I see the deposit in my wallet...... Issler
we actually have an auditor who publishes everything we spent money on each month or two in exacting detail
then yells at us for managing to spend most of that 617b |
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