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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
114
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Posted - 2011.10.16 21:56:00 -
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CSM7 is just around the corner. If the people want him removed, he won't get voted back in.
So, I suspect he'll be campaigning again soon. And you can call him to task during the campaign, if you want. What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All |

Ajunyx
XxBroski North Reloaded Federation NinjaGuldDotxX. Elite Space Guild
4
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Posted - 2011.10.16 21:56:00 -
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Thread disaster. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
514
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Posted - 2011.10.16 21:58:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:CSM7 is just around the corner. If the people want him removed, he won't get voted back in.
So, I suspect he'll be campaigning again soon. And you can call him to task during the campaign, if you want. LOGIC?! WTF?!
Now you're just being unreasonable and silly! GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
168
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Posted - 2011.10.16 21:58:00 -
[124] - Quote
Poetic Stanziel wrote:CSM7 is just around the corner. If the people want him removed, he won't get voted back in.
So, I suspect he'll be campaigning again soon. And you can call him to task during the campaign, if you want.
we've all plexed dozens of accounts each to stuff the ballots with the hours for plex thing |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
983
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:00:00 -
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Vote Mittani 2012: ~Chairman for Life~ |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
165
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:00:00 -
[126] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:manipulated by alts...not rocket science. and the rules dont change cos of that - go away goon alt. So in other words, you have no proof and no argument, much like you have nothing to indicate that he's abusing his position.
The issue is not if he has or has not abused his position.
The issue is that he is in a position that can be abused, without any NDA or rule being broken. Were he not the leader of GSF, but a simple director or even a grunt and someone says that GSF has taken advantage of NDA data, the only possibility of that happening would be due to an NDA breach and that would be investigated accordingly.
But in the position he is in, he does not need to break the NDA to use the information he is being exposed to as an unfair advantage.
In his place i would either not have applied for the CSM, or stepped down from the leadership of GSM upon winning the election.
But hey, those are just my principles.. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |

Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:00:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:
Are you stupid, you the poll knew all alts of all accounts, and all alts in other corps and alliances affiliated with goon account
Dont talk rubbush...
Your telling me that ccp checked all those 1700 goon accounts to see if they had alts that had voted, and checked if they had seconds and third accounts with alts that voted... yeah ofc course they did.
I'm one of the most well known players in the game, I've written a popular column on Tentonhammer for years, and I have a lot of people who - while they may not like me personally - believe that my particular methods are effective in getting CCP to do what is best for EVE. If you can't understand that, well - you're probably a victim, the kind of fool who gets scammed out of a supercap. he didn't want that erebus anyway |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
168
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:00:00 -
[128] - Quote
our cyno accounts drive democracy forward |

Just Another Toon
University of Caille Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:01:00 -
[129] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:manipulated by alts...not rocket science. and the rules dont change cos of that - go away goon alt. So in other words, you have no proof and no argument, much like you have nothing to indicate that he's abusing his position.
seriously please stop posting your silly comments, dont you get bored of trolling utter rubbish?
oh btw look at his latest scam on C&P, and i dont need to, he freely admits it...
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Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:02:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:White Tree wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:The Mittani wrote:This thread pleases me.
I represent nullsec, hisec greifers, and anyone else who understands that EVE is a place for war and murder, not safety and weakness. As it happens, the voice of my constituents is far louder than the OP's cry for help; that is why I am the Chairman.
That I scam, kill, and gank and conquer are all reasons why my constituents feel that I represent their viewpoints accurately, and voted for me in the first place.
As for my RL, I was once an attorney in DC, but I retired and moved to Wisconsin last year.
Ah so you admit that you are representing 'Your constituency' as in goons and not the eve player base. What you put forward, is everything your constituents want. They represent all the is bad for eve, scamming, manipulation everything else. Tell me, how can you be the chair of the CSM (which is supposed to represent all players) when all you do is represent yourself and the needs of your alliance. Do what you like in game, but you should not be abusing your position, and should be removed. Each CSM member has put the needs of their constituents above needs of those who are not. The justification for this? You didn't vote for that CSM member because you felt they didn't represent you. Just because they were elected does not mean they suddenly have to represent you now. In addition to this, representing each individuals singular interests is virtually impossible. It's easier, more efficiency, and to be fair basically politically correct to represent your constituents. You should find a CSM member that _does_ represent your interests, and then consider petitioning your concerns with them, as they're more likely to agree with you and they're probably at least partially responsible for your personal concerns. So your saying the CSM DOES NOT represent the eve player base as a whole? Because if that is true then the CSM is a lie and should be disbanded immediately. and if it does not, then how are all the players in eve being represented? they are not!!! You have just made it clear that each CSM are just out to get whats best for their voters (in other words their alliance) Because no one else voted for you. This makes the CSM even more of a joke then...
You are ******** and/or 12.
How can a small group of people ever completely represent an exponentially larger group of players completely? |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
514
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:02:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:The issue is not if he has or has not abused his position. The OP seems to disagreeGǪ
Quote:The issue is that he is in a position that can be abused, without any NDA or rule being broken. How so?
Quote:But in the position he is in, he does not need to break the NDA to use the information he is being exposed to as an unfair advantage. Again: how? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |

Just Another Toon
University of Caille Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:02:00 -
[132] - Quote
Zirse wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:White Tree wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:The Mittani wrote:This thread pleases me.
I represent nullsec, hisec greifers, and anyone else who understands that EVE is a place for war and murder, not safety and weakness. As it happens, the voice of my constituents is far louder than the OP's cry for help; that is why I am the Chairman.
That I scam, kill, and gank and conquer are all reasons why my constituents feel that I represent their viewpoints accurately, and voted for me in the first place.
As for my RL, I was once an attorney in DC, but I retired and moved to Wisconsin last year.
Ah so you admit that you are representing 'Your constituency' as in goons and not the eve player base. What you put forward, is everything your constituents want. They represent all the is bad for eve, scamming, manipulation everything else. Tell me, how can you be the chair of the CSM (which is supposed to represent all players) when all you do is represent yourself and the needs of your alliance. Do what you like in game, but you should not be abusing your position, and should be removed. Each CSM member has put the needs of their constituents above needs of those who are not. The justification for this? You didn't vote for that CSM member because you felt they didn't represent you. Just because they were elected does not mean they suddenly have to represent you now. In addition to this, representing each individuals singular interests is virtually impossible. It's easier, more efficiency, and to be fair basically politically correct to represent your constituents. You should find a CSM member that _does_ represent your interests, and then consider petitioning your concerns with them, as they're more likely to agree with you and they're probably at least partially responsible for your personal concerns. So your saying the CSM DOES NOT represent the eve player base as a whole? Because if that is true then the CSM is a lie and should be disbanded immediately. and if it does not, then how are all the players in eve being represented? they are not!!! You have just made it clear that each CSM are just out to get whats best for their voters (in other words their alliance) Because no one else voted for you. This makes the CSM even more of a joke then... You are ******** and/or 12. How can a small group of people ever completely represent an exponentially larger group of players completely?
so your saying the president of the usa doesnt represent everyone in the usa? oh btw read the CSM scope |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
514
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:03:00 -
[133] - Quote
Just Another Toon wrote:seriously please stop posting your silly comments, dont you get bored of trolling utter rubbish?
oh btw look at his latest scam on C&P, and i dont need to, he freely admits it... So how is he abusing his position?
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
165
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:04:00 -
[134] - Quote
Just Another Toon wrote:Tippia wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:manipulated by alts...not rocket science. and the rules dont change cos of that - go away goon alt. So in other words, you have no proof and no argument, much like you have nothing to indicate that he's abusing his position. seriously please stop posting your silly comments, dont you get bored of trolling utter rubbish? oh btw look at his latest scam on C&P, and i dont need to, he freely admits it...
I don't always agree with Tippia but i've never seen he/she/it trolling, just arguing with facts as it sees them  Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
143
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:05:00 -
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I don't even know what's going on in this thread anymore. Anyone want to play transformice? |

Nariya Kentaya
Celestial Ascension
9
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:09:00 -
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let's all instead talk about something we can all agree on!
Pie is good, my favorite is pumpkin, what is yours?
BTW if the mittani DOES NOT like pie, then maybe he shouldnt be CSM, and if OP doesnt like pie, OP should unsub.
but honestly, does this thread even have a point anymore? im starting to think OP has no proof beyond their own butthurt-ness that Mittani should be removed. |

Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
209
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:13:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:I remember when you were a member of Test. I do too.  I also remember how he managed to get kicked from TEST. How does that even happen?
I forgive you, pubbies - TEST pubblies especially have pretty short/faulty memories  [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |

Just Another Toon
University of Caille Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:15:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:let's all instead talk about something we can all agree on!
Pie is good, my favorite is pumpkin, what is yours?
BTW if the mittani DOES NOT like pie, then maybe he shouldnt be CSM, and if OP doesnt like pie, OP should unsub.
but honestly, does this thread even have a point anymore? im starting to think OP has no proof beyond their own butthurt-ness that Mittani should be removed.
keep trying to derail the post
anyway as stated.. i will make an official petition to CCP and hopefully get an official reponse. In that i will state all my arguments in full. I will also be writing to all MMO editorials on this matter, and lets see what people outside eve think also. I aim to get maximum exposure on this...so you goon alts can troll all you like, derail the post, whatever... its wrong and not acceptable..
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
165
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:16:00 -
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Test kicked someone? I though you guys were an alliance made of rejects from other alliances..
Not that i have anything against that though.. i even thought about going there if/when i get booted from my own because i don't have a filter between my brain and my mouth. And i don't want one. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
516
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:17:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:keep trying to derail the post Yes, please do.
For instance, by not responding to the very simple questions: How is he abusing his position? Where's your proof? Where are your arguments? Why shouldn't he kill ice miners?
Quote:anyway as stated.. i will make an official petition to CCP and hopefully get an official reponse. Too bad you're not allowed to share it if you doGǪ  GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:18:00 -
[141] - Quote
Just Another Toon wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:let's all instead talk about something we can all agree on!
Pie is good, my favorite is pumpkin, what is yours?
BTW if the mittani DOES NOT like pie, then maybe he shouldnt be CSM, and if OP doesnt like pie, OP should unsub.
but honestly, does this thread even have a point anymore? im starting to think OP has no proof beyond their own butthurt-ness that Mittani should be removed. keep trying to derail the post anyway as stated.. i will make an official petition to CCP and hopefully get an official reponse. In that i will state all my arguments in full. I will also be writing to all MMO editorials on this matter, and lets see what people outside eve think also. I aim to get maximum exposure on this...so you goon alts can troll all you like, derail the post, whatever... its wrong and not acceptable..
because you obviously have a lot more pull in the gaming media than the mittani |

Nariya Kentaya
Celestial Ascension
9
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:18:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:let's all instead talk about something we can all agree on!
Pie is good, my favorite is pumpkin, what is yours?
BTW if the mittani DOES NOT like pie, then maybe he shouldnt be CSM, and if OP doesnt like pie, OP should unsub.
but honestly, does this thread even have a point anymore? im starting to think OP has no proof beyond their own butthurt-ness that Mittani should be removed. keep trying to derail the post anyway as stated.. i will make an official petition to CCP and hopefully get an official reponse. In that i will state all my arguments in full. I will also be writing to all MMO editorials on this matter, and lets see what people outside eve think also. I aim to get maximum exposure on this...so you goon alts can troll all you like, derail the post, whatever... its wrong and not acceptable.. ONE <--- not a goon alt, in fact, used to fly AGAINST goons quite often, still have buddies that do, but only cause goons are the only people who will stay and fight instead of running to the nearest station (often cause they have roams out in non-blue space)
SECOND, WTH are you posting this at all if your NOT GOING TO PRESENT ANY PROOF until you file it in a petition NONE OF US ARE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE.
your logic is flawed, adn i can GUARANTEE you will attempt to bias the hell out of any "reports" you write to outside editorials.
also, IMO, i wouldnt try to base EVE decisions based on the opinions of people who DONT play, since alot of the things EVE is famous for arent even ALLOWED (under threat of banning) in other MMO's. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:19:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:anyway as stated.. i will make an official petition to CCP and hopefully get an official reponse.
The logs show nothing |

Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:20:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote: anyway as stated.. i will make an official petition to CCP and hopefully get an official reponse.
Don't forget to list the hundreds of +1's you got from this thread.
You know, to show that the Community is behind you and your not just a lone nut job.
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Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
209
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:20:00 -
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I have to say also that Brother Mittens is not at fault here at all.
I am confident he, Vile Rat, White Tree + others are doing their best.
Will let you in on a lil secret i have learned over the years...
When you are faced with something, you ALWAYS have 2 or more choices. In this case, one is whinging to the CSM to stop being silly. Another is to stop ice mining. Another is to mine ice in an area of space that has it. Another option is to war dec the Goonies and kill them in high sec. Another option is some python injection to give u more ice. Another option is to put up a Caldari tower.
So there you go. Plenty of options for you to try. [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
35
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:20:00 -
[146] - Quote
Just Another Toon wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:let's all instead talk about something we can all agree on!
Pie is good, my favorite is pumpkin, what is yours?
BTW if the mittani DOES NOT like pie, then maybe he shouldnt be CSM, and if OP doesnt like pie, OP should unsub.
but honestly, does this thread even have a point anymore? im starting to think OP has no proof beyond their own butthurt-ness that Mittani should be removed. keep trying to derail the post anyway as stated.. i will make an official petition to CCP and hopefully get an official reponse. In that i will state all my arguments in full. I will also be writing to all MMO editorials on this matter, and lets see what people outside eve think also. I aim to get maximum exposure on this...so you goon alts can troll all you like, derail the post, whatever... its wrong and not acceptable..
Max Tearage! Woot! I never thought I'd live to see the day! Praise be to God! And the Mittani! Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
89
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:28:00 -
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I'm voting for Mittens in the next election. Just because of this thread. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
993
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:29:00 -
[148] - Quote
The last thing you should do when dealing with a sadist who has power over you is to cry and whine. It's like blood in the water. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
145
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:30:00 -
[149] - Quote
Headerman wrote:I forgive you, pubbies - TEST pubblies especially have pretty short/faulty memories 
I remember plenty. |

Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
106
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:30:00 -
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If you don't want The Mittanni to be in the CSM, then vote for someone else next time.
Didn't vote? You just highlighted one of the key problems behind any electoral system - non participation. This is why some countries compel their citizens to vote. |
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