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Arrusses
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:54:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:The Raven is classed as an "Attack" battleship (smaller, faster, slightly fewer hp). You shouldn't be comparing it to the Hype, but to the Mega.
Scorp is a "Disruption" BS, and it's the only one, so there's no direct comparison. Although I might point out that it has 8 mids, so it should be able to shield tank well enough.
> "(smaller, faster, slightly fewer hp)"
You mean, like a Typhoon?
If it's going to be an attack battleship, and its bigger and slower, it should be doing more damage when it gets there to make it viable. At the moment, it's doing less.
Luckily we have a range bonus to make up for that. On our "attack battleship". |
Xamiakas
Galactic Industries Inc. BRABODEN
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Posted - 2013.06.05 14:11:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Welcome to the Tech 1 Battleship rebalance, fasten your seatbelts!
Some of the changes herein are significant, yup, you got that right. thanks for taking a yet another step towards finally pushing caldari out of pvp world. good job on the raven :D same bonuses.. less high slots. definately a buff. i see it became a tradition @ cccp now.. "we brought you a new expansion! and surprise surprise - there is NO suprise.. we`ve raped caldari yet again." thanks hun :* |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction Whores in space
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Posted - 2013.06.05 14:44:00 -
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Xamiakas wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Welcome to the Tech 1 Battleship rebalance, fasten your seatbelts!
Some of the changes herein are significant, yup, you got that right. thanks for taking a yet another step towards finally pushing caldari out of pvp world. good job on the raven :D same bonuses.. less high slots. definately a buff. i see it became a tradition @ cccp now.. "we brought you a new expansion! and surprise surprise - there is NO suprise.. we`ve raped caldari yet again." thanks hun :*
Funny that all minmatar thread.. the most asked thing is to remove a high slot from the tempest and give us a MId slot. So stop whinnning!!! Iw ant your changes!! |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:31:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Xamiakas wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Welcome to the Tech 1 Battleship rebalance, fasten your seatbelts!
Some of the changes herein are significant, yup, you got that right. thanks for taking a yet another step towards finally pushing caldari out of pvp world. good job on the raven :D same bonuses.. less high slots. definately a buff. i see it became a tradition @ cccp now.. "we brought you a new expansion! and surprise surprise - there is NO suprise.. we`ve raped caldari yet again." thanks hun :* Funny that all minmatar thread.. the most asked thing is to remove a high slot from the tempest and give us a MId slot. So stop whinnning!!! Iw ant your changes!! Back to the whinematar threads with you! Our only viable bs is only goor in mass fleets, while the second closest to being decent in pvp is outdone by a cruiser. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |
BiggestT
Black Watch Guard Amarr 7th Fleet
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:21:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:The Raven is classed as an "Attack" battleship (smaller, faster, slightly fewer hp). You shouldn't be comparing it to the Hype, but to the Mega.
Scorp is a "Disruption" BS, and it's the only one, so there's no direct comparison. Although I might point out that it has 8 mids, so it should be able to shield tank well enough.
I don't understand how the 'geddon isn't also classed as a disruption BS tbh.
I can't see many scenarios where a scorp will be preferable to a geddon, blackbird's do the job with 80-90% of the effectiveness for 10% of the price.
I know CCP doesn't like the idea of cost vs. effectiveness but if it means the scorp gets shunned for the 'geddon or a combat/attack BS well.... The scorp's viability is looking shaky indeed. |
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
749
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:37:00 -
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BiggestT wrote:Malcanis wrote:The Raven is classed as an "Attack" battleship (smaller, faster, slightly fewer hp). You shouldn't be comparing it to the Hype, but to the Mega.
Scorp is a "Disruption" BS, and it's the only one, so there's no direct comparison. Although I might point out that it has 8 mids, so it should be able to shield tank well enough. I don't understand how the 'geddon isn't also classed as a disruption BS tbh. I can't see many scenarios where a scorp will be preferable to a geddon, blackbird's do the job with 80-90% of the effectiveness for 10% of the price.
A disruption BS needs more than just a neut range bonus.
With comparable fits - medslots of prop mod and ECM - the Blackbird offers 70% of the Scorpion's raw ECM power, because of the additional medslots, so the Scorp has a 40% advantage. But yeah, given the cost and lack of mobility of BS, it's easy to argue that the Scorp isn't really worth it. But really, that argument also seems to apply to attack BS in general. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
129
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:42:00 -
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When are these going be unstickied to give Page 1 back to Player Posts? Odyssey is in and the Feedback and Issues threads are active. Why not replace these with a "Link Sticky" to those two threads?
We all know how lazy we are to go clicking...wait for it...past Page 3 of this Forum section. My Feature\Idea:-á Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee"
Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Xamiakas
Galactic Industries Inc. BRABODEN
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Posted - 2013.06.13 15:36:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Xamiakas wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Welcome to the Tech 1 Battleship rebalance, fasten your seatbelts!
Some of the changes herein are significant, yup, you got that right. thanks for taking a yet another step towards finally pushing caldari out of pvp world. good job on the raven :D same bonuses.. less high slots. definately a buff. i see it became a tradition @ cccp now.. "we brought you a new expansion! and surprise surprise - there is NO suprise.. we`ve raped caldari yet again." thanks hun :* Funny that all minmatar thread.. the most asked thing is to remove a high slot from the tempest and give us a MId slot. So stop whinnning!!! Iw ant your changes!! yeah it might work for MINMIES ffs.. is raven a minmatar boat? no so wtf are you on about here? :D <-- unbelievably low tollerance to stupidity in people. That + you being your mother's child might aswell be the main reason why i am NOT your father. |
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