OH BOY, MORE BARRIERS TO ENTRY FOR NEW PLAYERS!!!

There is an average of 200 procurers being traded every day in jita, with occasional spikes of a few thousand units.

There is an average of 50 scorps traded everyday in jita, with spikes to 200 units. Between 20 and 40 megathrons are traded each day. Same for typhoon, with some frequent spikes around 200 units. Factor in the lack of attention of people for the procurer prior to the barge rebalance, the silly price of it's BPO compared to the cost of the ship (over 1.4b for a ship that used cost less than 10m to produce). Almost nobody had a procurer not wanted one, and now, they sell almost as fast as tornados.

Almost every nullsec player have one or two scorps lying somewhere that they used once, when ECM was the flavor of the month. Almost every highsec mission runner have a raven that he'll never lose, and eventually sell for a CNR, golem or whatever. A good bunch of nullsec people do as well. Many manufacturers already have researched BS BPOs, and are probably already getting as many as possible out while they're cheap.

My point: t1 and t2 BS are much more frequents in hangars than procurers were before their rebalance, often in lower demand. Between people reselling their old assets, industrialists stockpiling them and speculators hoarding them, I dont see the stockpiles for BS lasting less than 1 year.

1. New players shouldn't be flying battleships. They lack the support skills. They lack the financial support for replacement.

2. Bigger doesn't equal more fun.

3. The other re-balancing efforts have made great strides for newer players across the board. Good job completely ignoring those.

Hm sounds like the new BS prices will be something around 160-200M, so around 40-60M for the hull after insurance. Sounds a bit harsh compared to BC prices(keep in mind stuff like guns and rigs is also quite a bit more expensive). On the other hand I like to see the throw away BS go.

I would still like to see that BC's have to use large rigs, to even out the price difference a bit.

1. New players shouldn't be flying battleships. They lack the support skills. They lack the financial support for replacement.

2. Bigger doesn't equal more fun.

3. The other re-balancing efforts have made great strides for newer players across the board. Good job completely ignoring those.

While you can't make an overpowered ship balanced by increasing its price, cost effectiveness, a function of capability offered by the ship and modules equipped and the price at which those abilities are bought, does play a part in developing fleet doctrines. As things are today, battleships are rarely used unless one needs the longer range that select sniper platforms offer, or a larger buffer for triage support. They are already too slow, a minimal improvement over most Battlecruisers, and insufficiently survivable to be deployed outside of situations where buffer is more important than mobility. The Tier 3 Battlecruisers have made Battleships more or less irrelevant in many circumstances, and now they're going to be even more expensive than they were before?

Unless in a monolithic ball, or working under a doctrine built around the Micro Jump Drive, why would I want to fly a Battleship without the support of Recons, Tech 3s, and Triage Carriers? Battleships are increasingly becoming the poor man's tool in Capital Ships Online, and this only exacerbates the situation.

Just look at the lowly Procurer. Current build cost is about 21 million isk. You can buy one in Jita for 9 million. Platinum insurance payout is 2,043,391. That pretty much sums up the problem with "Extra Materials".

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but we looked into some metrics around player wealth and income and found that EVE players are making money faster and faster, and even new players should have no trouble enduring the bump in cost.

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It would be nice, but aren't willing to underestimate the extreme patience of the player base and so its hard to imagine how we could do it in the forseeable future.

Because every Joe Schmoe has a right to jump from his Pinto to a Flashy 300,000 dollar 600 horsepower Ferrari.

It may not be smart and he will more than likely crash it, but its his right to do it. Same rule applies here. They may not be ready for a BS, but when they lose it, they gain experience on why not they should not be flying it.

It also provides us prowlers a yummy kill.

People do not need to be hand held and directed to fly certain ships as pushed by the Devs or isk cost.

My first real loss when I was a noob years ago was bringing out a Navy raven to a small gang fight. I had it poorly fitted and blew most of my isk on it.

When it got smashed, i realized my mistake real quick. People need that reminder., because most fail to listen to others because they do not like being told what to do in a game they play for fun.

They need to really understand why they do not need to be in it, by taking that loss and feeling the effects.

Did I also mention it gives us older players a yummy kill?

wait so you're telling me all bs's will have similar prices? AND they're going to be shittier than current?

Guess im sticking with t2 cruisers and bc's even harder now.

wait so you're telling me all bs's will have similar prices? AND they're going to be shittier than current?

TL:DR
Remember all those battleships we were rebalancing to make more viable and interesting? Yeah, well you're not going to be flying any of them because the ones that were still somehow not prohibitively expensive just became prohibitively expensive. One more step towards the door here.